My concern is 1. my breast looks tubular (like horns) and 2. I want a little more volume to fill my upper pole but I don't want to look too fake (in other words I don't want my upper pole to have unnatural volume). I went for 2 consultations. First doctor recommended subfascial and second doctor recommended subglandular because I have enough breast tissue. I'm worried I might look like Victoria Beckham after breast feeding or if I lose weight. Should I be concerned about rippling or not?
Answer: Subglandular, subfascial or submuscular? There are two choices for breast implant placement: sub-glandular (under the breast tissue and in front of the chest muscle – the pectoralis muscle) or sub-muscular (under or partially under the chest muscle). The best location depends on many factors including: tissue thickness, weight, desired outcome, and individual anatomy. Each position has advantages and disadvantages: Subglandular implant benefits: (Similar for Subfascial) A shorter recovery time. Less discomfort initially. No distortion of the breast when the pectoralis muscle flexes. Mild preoperative sagging can be improved, especially if no breast lifting procedure is performed. Easier surgical procedure. Larger implants can be placed. Subglandular implant disadvantages: (Similar for Subfascial) The implant may be more visible. More visible rippling, especially in patients with a small amount of natural breast tissue. Generally, saline implants do not produce a good result in front of the muscle. Higher incidence of capsular contraction. “Bottoming out” in some patients. Some radiologists have more problems reading a mammogram with an implant in front of the muscle. Submuscular implant benefits: Usually results in a better appearance for naturally small breasted women Less tendency for seeing ripples of the implant. A more natural feel to the breast especially in slender women who don’t have much of their own breast tissue. Less interference with mammograms, although most radiologists take additional views no matter where the implants are placed. Lower rate of capsular contraction. Less of a chance of “bottoming out” where the implant bulges at the lower aspect of the breast and the nipple and areolas tend to appear excessively elevated. Submuscular implant disadvantages: Recovery usually takes a little longer and is more uncomfortable initially. There may be an “animation deformity”, which is a temporary distortion of the breasts when the pectoralis muscle is flexed. Body builders and weight lifters generally prefer implants in front of the muscle. It is harder to achieve cleavage in women who have widely spaced breasts. The implants often ride higher on the chest. Actually, most patients who have breast augmentations today have breast implants placed in a combination or “dual plane” position. This approach has the same benefits and disadvantages of a total “submuscular implant”, but with a lesser tendency to ride high on the chest wall. The disadvantage as compared to a total “submuscular implant” is a higher tendency for bottoming out. The ideal placement in any particular patient depends on their particular anatomy and understanding of the pros and cons of each approach and desired outcome.. Keep in mind, that following the advice from a surgeon on this or any other website who proposes to tell you what to do based on two dimensional photos without examining you, physically feeling the tissue, assessing your desired outcome, taking a full medical history, and discussing the pros and cons of each operative procedure may not be in your best interest. I would suggest you find a plastic surgeon certified by the American Board of Plastic Surgery and ideally a member of the American Society for Aesthetic Plastic Surgery (ASAPS) that you trust and are comfortable with. You should discuss your concerns with that surgeon in person. Robert Singer, MD FACS La Jolla, California
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Answer: Subglandular, subfascial or submuscular? There are two choices for breast implant placement: sub-glandular (under the breast tissue and in front of the chest muscle – the pectoralis muscle) or sub-muscular (under or partially under the chest muscle). The best location depends on many factors including: tissue thickness, weight, desired outcome, and individual anatomy. Each position has advantages and disadvantages: Subglandular implant benefits: (Similar for Subfascial) A shorter recovery time. Less discomfort initially. No distortion of the breast when the pectoralis muscle flexes. Mild preoperative sagging can be improved, especially if no breast lifting procedure is performed. Easier surgical procedure. Larger implants can be placed. Subglandular implant disadvantages: (Similar for Subfascial) The implant may be more visible. More visible rippling, especially in patients with a small amount of natural breast tissue. Generally, saline implants do not produce a good result in front of the muscle. Higher incidence of capsular contraction. “Bottoming out” in some patients. Some radiologists have more problems reading a mammogram with an implant in front of the muscle. Submuscular implant benefits: Usually results in a better appearance for naturally small breasted women Less tendency for seeing ripples of the implant. A more natural feel to the breast especially in slender women who don’t have much of their own breast tissue. Less interference with mammograms, although most radiologists take additional views no matter where the implants are placed. Lower rate of capsular contraction. Less of a chance of “bottoming out” where the implant bulges at the lower aspect of the breast and the nipple and areolas tend to appear excessively elevated. Submuscular implant disadvantages: Recovery usually takes a little longer and is more uncomfortable initially. There may be an “animation deformity”, which is a temporary distortion of the breasts when the pectoralis muscle is flexed. Body builders and weight lifters generally prefer implants in front of the muscle. It is harder to achieve cleavage in women who have widely spaced breasts. The implants often ride higher on the chest. Actually, most patients who have breast augmentations today have breast implants placed in a combination or “dual plane” position. This approach has the same benefits and disadvantages of a total “submuscular implant”, but with a lesser tendency to ride high on the chest wall. The disadvantage as compared to a total “submuscular implant” is a higher tendency for bottoming out. The ideal placement in any particular patient depends on their particular anatomy and understanding of the pros and cons of each approach and desired outcome.. Keep in mind, that following the advice from a surgeon on this or any other website who proposes to tell you what to do based on two dimensional photos without examining you, physically feeling the tissue, assessing your desired outcome, taking a full medical history, and discussing the pros and cons of each operative procedure may not be in your best interest. I would suggest you find a plastic surgeon certified by the American Board of Plastic Surgery and ideally a member of the American Society for Aesthetic Plastic Surgery (ASAPS) that you trust and are comfortable with. You should discuss your concerns with that surgeon in person. Robert Singer, MD FACS La Jolla, California
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Answer: Breast implant pocket The submuscular (subpectoral) approach generally gives the most natural result; especially with regard to the upper pole volume. Your breasts are not very tubular or tuberous so I would not be too concerned about having an unnatural look. Rippling occurs more commonly with saline implants compared to silicone. Subglandular is associated with a higher capsular contracture (scar tissue) rate and is therefore not the ideal choice. You may need to consult with a few more plastic surgeons to gather more information before making your decision.Best wishes,Dr.Bruno
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Answer: Breast implant pocket The submuscular (subpectoral) approach generally gives the most natural result; especially with regard to the upper pole volume. Your breasts are not very tubular or tuberous so I would not be too concerned about having an unnatural look. Rippling occurs more commonly with saline implants compared to silicone. Subglandular is associated with a higher capsular contracture (scar tissue) rate and is therefore not the ideal choice. You may need to consult with a few more plastic surgeons to gather more information before making your decision.Best wishes,Dr.Bruno
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November 3, 2017
Answer: Subfascial, subglandular or submuscular Subfascial and sub-glandular are almost the same. Sub-muscular gives you better coverage in the upper pole, maybe more important as you get older. There is a quicker recovery when you go over v under the muscle. Implants over the muscle are more likely to ripple if you don't have enough coverage. I think you need to trust your PS. It is a balance between the size the implant and the amount of breast tissue. Looks like you would do fine either way with a small implant.
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November 3, 2017
Answer: Subfascial, subglandular or submuscular Subfascial and sub-glandular are almost the same. Sub-muscular gives you better coverage in the upper pole, maybe more important as you get older. There is a quicker recovery when you go over v under the muscle. Implants over the muscle are more likely to ripple if you don't have enough coverage. I think you need to trust your PS. It is a balance between the size the implant and the amount of breast tissue. Looks like you would do fine either way with a small implant.
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November 3, 2017
Answer: BA - Implant Placement Thank you for your question! Implant placement is most often recommended to be submuscular for several reasons. When implants are placed below the muscle, there is a decreased risk for the development of capsular contracture (hardening) and less chance for rippling, which can be a concern for patients who are thin and have little breast tissue. Also, there is better mammography detection. Because you were given conflicting recommendations at your recent consultations, it is understandable to be worried! It may be helpful to inquire for the reasoning of the one surgeon who prefers subglandular. It may also be helpful to have an additional consultation appointment. Photos are unfortunately not a substitute for an examination by a board-certified plastic surgeon. Good luck in your research!
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November 3, 2017
Answer: BA - Implant Placement Thank you for your question! Implant placement is most often recommended to be submuscular for several reasons. When implants are placed below the muscle, there is a decreased risk for the development of capsular contracture (hardening) and less chance for rippling, which can be a concern for patients who are thin and have little breast tissue. Also, there is better mammography detection. Because you were given conflicting recommendations at your recent consultations, it is understandable to be worried! It may be helpful to inquire for the reasoning of the one surgeon who prefers subglandular. It may also be helpful to have an additional consultation appointment. Photos are unfortunately not a substitute for an examination by a board-certified plastic surgeon. Good luck in your research!
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November 2, 2017
Answer: Plane I recommend submuscular placement of the implants. The implant selection should be based on a combination of your desired size, soft tissue dynamics, breast base diameter and skin elasticity. I recommend an in-office examination as well as a detailed discussion with a surgeon who you are comfortable with. Finally, make sure your surgeon is a Double-Board Certified Plastic Surgeon certified by the American Board of Plastic Surgery (ABPS), a member of the American Society of Plastic Surgery (ASPS), a member of the American Society of Aesthetic Plastic Surgery (ASAPS), and a fellow of the American College of Surgeons (FACS).Best,Dr. DesaiBeverly Hills Institute for Aesthetic Plastic SurgeryHarvard Educated, Beverly Hills & Miami Beach TrainedDouble Board-Certified, Double Fellowship-Trained Beverly Hills Plastic Surgeon
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November 2, 2017
Answer: Plane I recommend submuscular placement of the implants. The implant selection should be based on a combination of your desired size, soft tissue dynamics, breast base diameter and skin elasticity. I recommend an in-office examination as well as a detailed discussion with a surgeon who you are comfortable with. Finally, make sure your surgeon is a Double-Board Certified Plastic Surgeon certified by the American Board of Plastic Surgery (ABPS), a member of the American Society of Plastic Surgery (ASPS), a member of the American Society of Aesthetic Plastic Surgery (ASAPS), and a fellow of the American College of Surgeons (FACS).Best,Dr. DesaiBeverly Hills Institute for Aesthetic Plastic SurgeryHarvard Educated, Beverly Hills & Miami Beach TrainedDouble Board-Certified, Double Fellowship-Trained Beverly Hills Plastic Surgeon
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November 2, 2017
Answer: Subfascial is Subglandular Hello,The small group of surgeons around the world who promote the concept of subfascial augmentation have failed to truly demonstrate that they are actually keeping the fascia in tact during the dissection or implant delivery phases of the surgery. Further, the fascia is anatomically thin (less than a mm), and offers no tissue buffer, leaving the implant exposed and prone to visible rippling. Subpectoral surgery, along with inframammary incisions, are the part of a newly established 14 step plan to reduce complications as common as capsular contracture and as rare as breast implant associated anaplastic large cell lymphoma. Subpectoral placement will give you the most natural upper pole, avoiding the Victoria Beckham look. Go visit a few ABPS certified/ASAPS member surgeons. Best of luck!
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November 2, 2017
Answer: Subfascial is Subglandular Hello,The small group of surgeons around the world who promote the concept of subfascial augmentation have failed to truly demonstrate that they are actually keeping the fascia in tact during the dissection or implant delivery phases of the surgery. Further, the fascia is anatomically thin (less than a mm), and offers no tissue buffer, leaving the implant exposed and prone to visible rippling. Subpectoral surgery, along with inframammary incisions, are the part of a newly established 14 step plan to reduce complications as common as capsular contracture and as rare as breast implant associated anaplastic large cell lymphoma. Subpectoral placement will give you the most natural upper pole, avoiding the Victoria Beckham look. Go visit a few ABPS certified/ASAPS member surgeons. Best of luck!
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