Ive had these bags/lines that extend from my dark eye circles onto my cheeks. I liken them to as if I have a second eye bag, double bags almost. Its like a crease that indents on my upper cheek. Ive had them for years and they have slowly worsened. Im 29 and constantly hear “you look so tired”. What is the cause and solution? Do lasers help with this issue? I was hoping to avoid surgical options but will consider all. Thank you
Answer: Lower eyelid festoons and malar mounds Dear Boston,It appears that you have evidence of festoons/malar mounds. These changes can make a person appear tired, sick and older even when they feel fine inside. Many people who undergo lower eyelid surgery to improve the appearance of their lower lids are dissatisfied afterwards because of one factor which can complicate the results from lower eyelid surgery. Festoons and Malar mounds are a medical condition in which the skin of the lower eyelid becomes significantly damaged, usually by the sun. This damaged skin can result in folds in the lower eyelids and can lead to swollen mounds on the cheeks. They often occur with age and are more common in people with lighter skin types. Festoons occur in many people seeking lower eyelid rejuvenation and if not corrected at the time that lower lid surgery is performed, the condition can become exacerbated and make the lower eyelids look worse after surgery. The reason then why many people are dissatisfied after undergoing lower eyelid surgery to improve the appearance of their lower lids is the result of two main issues: Swelling that occurs in the face after lower eyelid surgery often accumulates in the lower eyelid region and can take a while to resolve. The subconscious brain constantly looks for balance in a face, and when lower eyelid fullness and festoons exist they are seen to belong together, as both are usually age-related phenomena. When only one is then corrected (usually the lower eyelid bags), the other is seen in even greater contrast. The subconscious brain then focuses in on this condition and tells the conscious brain the face is out of balance. Festoons and malar mounds have been a frustration for surgeons for many years. Thanks to the initial work of Dr. Sterling Baker (a person with whom I trained) and my own improvement and refinement on that work over the last decade, I now have a sophisticated, technically-challenging but effective treatment for festoons and malar mounds. Many people don’t fully understand or recognize the differences between these two conditions. The first difference is in their cause or etiology; festoons are a result of sun-damaged skin on the lower eyelid and on the cheek and are believed to be affected by underlying contrasting muscle forces over the years of a person’s life. In contrast, lower eyelid bags are due to age-related fat protruding through the skin in the lower eyelid region. New research has shown that fat can grow and atrophy during our lives in asymmetric ways. The growth of fat in the orbit around the eye along with atrophy of fat in the facial regions around the eye, as well as weakness in some of the orbital containing structures, contribute the fullness we see in the lower eyelid with age. For some individuals, this fat shows up at a very young age and this is believed to a result of genetic changes in the development of the eye area in those individuals. The second difference is the location on the face where they form. Lower eyelid festoons can be seen primarily on the cheek with some presence in the lower eyelid region. Lower eyelid bags are located directly below the lower eyelid lashes and are noticed to become more prominent when someone with these bags looks upwards. Conversely, festoons are minimally affected when a person looks upwards. The third difference is the feel of these conditions when they are touched. Festoons are squishy and can be made to move side to side. Lower eyelid bags are firmer, deeper in location beneath the skin and can’t be moved easily side to side when touched. It is important to understand the differences between these two conditions. The best rejuvenation and most natural results occur when both eyelid bags and festoons are corrected simultaneously. I'll include some links below. I hope this was helpful.
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Answer: Lower eyelid festoons and malar mounds Dear Boston,It appears that you have evidence of festoons/malar mounds. These changes can make a person appear tired, sick and older even when they feel fine inside. Many people who undergo lower eyelid surgery to improve the appearance of their lower lids are dissatisfied afterwards because of one factor which can complicate the results from lower eyelid surgery. Festoons and Malar mounds are a medical condition in which the skin of the lower eyelid becomes significantly damaged, usually by the sun. This damaged skin can result in folds in the lower eyelids and can lead to swollen mounds on the cheeks. They often occur with age and are more common in people with lighter skin types. Festoons occur in many people seeking lower eyelid rejuvenation and if not corrected at the time that lower lid surgery is performed, the condition can become exacerbated and make the lower eyelids look worse after surgery. The reason then why many people are dissatisfied after undergoing lower eyelid surgery to improve the appearance of their lower lids is the result of two main issues: Swelling that occurs in the face after lower eyelid surgery often accumulates in the lower eyelid region and can take a while to resolve. The subconscious brain constantly looks for balance in a face, and when lower eyelid fullness and festoons exist they are seen to belong together, as both are usually age-related phenomena. When only one is then corrected (usually the lower eyelid bags), the other is seen in even greater contrast. The subconscious brain then focuses in on this condition and tells the conscious brain the face is out of balance. Festoons and malar mounds have been a frustration for surgeons for many years. Thanks to the initial work of Dr. Sterling Baker (a person with whom I trained) and my own improvement and refinement on that work over the last decade, I now have a sophisticated, technically-challenging but effective treatment for festoons and malar mounds. Many people don’t fully understand or recognize the differences between these two conditions. The first difference is in their cause or etiology; festoons are a result of sun-damaged skin on the lower eyelid and on the cheek and are believed to be affected by underlying contrasting muscle forces over the years of a person’s life. In contrast, lower eyelid bags are due to age-related fat protruding through the skin in the lower eyelid region. New research has shown that fat can grow and atrophy during our lives in asymmetric ways. The growth of fat in the orbit around the eye along with atrophy of fat in the facial regions around the eye, as well as weakness in some of the orbital containing structures, contribute the fullness we see in the lower eyelid with age. For some individuals, this fat shows up at a very young age and this is believed to a result of genetic changes in the development of the eye area in those individuals. The second difference is the location on the face where they form. Lower eyelid festoons can be seen primarily on the cheek with some presence in the lower eyelid region. Lower eyelid bags are located directly below the lower eyelid lashes and are noticed to become more prominent when someone with these bags looks upwards. Conversely, festoons are minimally affected when a person looks upwards. The third difference is the feel of these conditions when they are touched. Festoons are squishy and can be made to move side to side. Lower eyelid bags are firmer, deeper in location beneath the skin and can’t be moved easily side to side when touched. It is important to understand the differences between these two conditions. The best rejuvenation and most natural results occur when both eyelid bags and festoons are corrected simultaneously. I'll include some links below. I hope this was helpful.
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Answer: Understanding Malar Bags and Their Solutions Malar bags, or nasojugal grooves, are the lines or indentations that can form between the lower eyelid and the upper cheek, often exacerbated by factors like aging, genetics, and lifestyle. These bags can give the appearance of dark circles and may create a tired look, which can be frustrating. At 29, it’s not uncommon to notice these changes as the skin loses collagen and elasticity over time. Non-surgical options, such as dermal fillers, can effectively address volume loss in this area, while laser treatments may help improve skin texture and reduce pigmentation. A consultation with a qualified aesthetic professional can help determine the best approach tailored to your needs, whether that includes lasers, fillers, or other non-invasive treatments.
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Answer: Understanding Malar Bags and Their Solutions Malar bags, or nasojugal grooves, are the lines or indentations that can form between the lower eyelid and the upper cheek, often exacerbated by factors like aging, genetics, and lifestyle. These bags can give the appearance of dark circles and may create a tired look, which can be frustrating. At 29, it’s not uncommon to notice these changes as the skin loses collagen and elasticity over time. Non-surgical options, such as dermal fillers, can effectively address volume loss in this area, while laser treatments may help improve skin texture and reduce pigmentation. A consultation with a qualified aesthetic professional can help determine the best approach tailored to your needs, whether that includes lasers, fillers, or other non-invasive treatments.
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October 13, 2018
Answer: Under Eye Treatments Dark under eye circles can make you look tired and older than you are. I would use a combination protocol that includes topical Melarase creams first, followed by a combination of injectable fillers, fractional laser, and RF to blend out the eyelid hollowness and tighten the skin. Recommended Creams: Melarase Brightening Kit MelaClenz Melarase AM Melarase PM Melapads Replenish Retinoid Cream Best, Dr. Karamanoukian Realself100 Surgeon
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October 13, 2018
Answer: Under Eye Treatments Dark under eye circles can make you look tired and older than you are. I would use a combination protocol that includes topical Melarase creams first, followed by a combination of injectable fillers, fractional laser, and RF to blend out the eyelid hollowness and tighten the skin. Recommended Creams: Melarase Brightening Kit MelaClenz Melarase AM Melarase PM Melapads Replenish Retinoid Cream Best, Dr. Karamanoukian Realself100 Surgeon
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June 7, 2018
Answer: Improving Under Eye -- Fillers (Belotero, Volbella, Restylane Silk), Fraxel, Microneedling/PRP A combination approach will give the most improvement. Fillers like (Belotero, Volbella, Restylane Silk) lasers, and Microneedling/PRP can improve under the eyes. My patients try to get non surgical treatments to avoid surgery. We use PRP and stem cells there often. I suggest consulting with an expert to develop a treatment plan best suited for your short and long term goals. Best, Dr. Emer
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June 7, 2018
Answer: Improving Under Eye -- Fillers (Belotero, Volbella, Restylane Silk), Fraxel, Microneedling/PRP A combination approach will give the most improvement. Fillers like (Belotero, Volbella, Restylane Silk) lasers, and Microneedling/PRP can improve under the eyes. My patients try to get non surgical treatments to avoid surgery. We use PRP and stem cells there often. I suggest consulting with an expert to develop a treatment plan best suited for your short and long term goals. Best, Dr. Emer
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June 6, 2018
Answer: Treating Under Eye Wrinkles? Fillers or surgery Under eye bags and wrinkles can be permanently corrected with surgery or temporarily camouflaged with fillers (Restylane, Belotero, Volbella).There are great non-surgical options to fill in under eye depressions and hollowness. Using dermal fillers, a liquid eye-lift can be performed. A dermal filler such as Restylane would be placed in the cheek and tear trough to hide the depression or bag underneath your eye. Surgery would require a fat-repositioning lower lid blepharoplasty. In this surgical procedure, fat from the eye area is moved into the tear trough depression filling the actual depression. I hope this helps!
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June 6, 2018
Answer: Treating Under Eye Wrinkles? Fillers or surgery Under eye bags and wrinkles can be permanently corrected with surgery or temporarily camouflaged with fillers (Restylane, Belotero, Volbella).There are great non-surgical options to fill in under eye depressions and hollowness. Using dermal fillers, a liquid eye-lift can be performed. A dermal filler such as Restylane would be placed in the cheek and tear trough to hide the depression or bag underneath your eye. Surgery would require a fat-repositioning lower lid blepharoplasty. In this surgical procedure, fat from the eye area is moved into the tear trough depression filling the actual depression. I hope this helps!
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