I have horners as a result of a surgery and you can see that my right eye is tucked back a little as well as ptosis. Is it possible to fix the eye itself or only a lift to fix the ptosis
Answer: Options to correct your eye and eyelid position, but having a detailed diagnosis first is crucial Your situation requires a full examination before you get a more comprehensive answer as it depends on the type of surgery you had that led to the Horner’s Syndrome. If you had some intracranial or neurosurgical procedure that led the eye to be pushed, then it has to do with the bones around the eyes called the boney orbit. The reconstruction can be very complex and may require a team approach that includes an orbital oculoplastic surgeon and a neurosurgeon in order to achieve the restoration and the position of the eye, which may or may not be practical. As a practicing oculofacial plastic surgeon in Manhattan and Long Island for over 20 years, patients who have enophthalmos or eyes pushed inwards and exophthalmos where the eye is pushed out like patients with Grave’s Disease or thyroid eye disease, we always have to think practically. Our goal in every procedure is to always reduce risk. Eyelid surgery alone is a reasonable compromise because trying to achieve ideal may involve more risk. For patients with thyroid eye disease that have eyes that are bulging out with one eyelid particularly high, I would offer the option of just bringing that eyelid down. That’s not a simple procedure but it is less invasive than doing an orbital decompression. After the procedure, patients are more satisfied because the eyes are more symmetric than before and a classical approach is necessary. My goal is to deal with individual situations and balance risk and benefit. In your situation, I think more a detailed examination is necessary. This should be brought to the attention of an oculoplastic or orbital surgeon. If you had neurosurgery as I described, then it is something that you should also discuss with your neurosurgeon on how to get a normal eye position. The challenge now is when the eye recedes back, a lot of scar tissue may form, making it very difficult to place the eye in a normal position even with the correction of the structure around the eye. It may still be more practical to have ptosis surgery to get the eyelid in a more naturally symmetric position. Whenever an individual has a problem like yours, patients always think that everyone’s looking at them sees that asymmetry, but I always tell them that people look at you globally. If you are able to create some balance even with one or two millimeters of correction, then everything else averages out and blends and becomes camouflaged. I suggest that you meet with some doctors and the specialties I described so that you can get more information. You may need imaging studies. You also may need to figure out whether or not a more complex surgery in the orbit is necessary versus a more straightforward surgery that we routinely do in our office. Whether or not it’s to lift the eyelid or bring the eyelid down, it’s considerably less risky. Once you have your information, move forward with whatever you’re comfortable with. I hope that was helpful, I wish you the best of luck, and thank you for your question. This personalized video answer to your question is posted on RealSelf and on YouTube. To provide you with a personal and expert response, we use the image(s) you submitted on RealSelf in the video, but with respect to your privacy, we only show the body feature in question so you are not personally identifiable. If you prefer not to have your video question visible on YouTube, please contact us.
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Answer: Options to correct your eye and eyelid position, but having a detailed diagnosis first is crucial Your situation requires a full examination before you get a more comprehensive answer as it depends on the type of surgery you had that led to the Horner’s Syndrome. If you had some intracranial or neurosurgical procedure that led the eye to be pushed, then it has to do with the bones around the eyes called the boney orbit. The reconstruction can be very complex and may require a team approach that includes an orbital oculoplastic surgeon and a neurosurgeon in order to achieve the restoration and the position of the eye, which may or may not be practical. As a practicing oculofacial plastic surgeon in Manhattan and Long Island for over 20 years, patients who have enophthalmos or eyes pushed inwards and exophthalmos where the eye is pushed out like patients with Grave’s Disease or thyroid eye disease, we always have to think practically. Our goal in every procedure is to always reduce risk. Eyelid surgery alone is a reasonable compromise because trying to achieve ideal may involve more risk. For patients with thyroid eye disease that have eyes that are bulging out with one eyelid particularly high, I would offer the option of just bringing that eyelid down. That’s not a simple procedure but it is less invasive than doing an orbital decompression. After the procedure, patients are more satisfied because the eyes are more symmetric than before and a classical approach is necessary. My goal is to deal with individual situations and balance risk and benefit. In your situation, I think more a detailed examination is necessary. This should be brought to the attention of an oculoplastic or orbital surgeon. If you had neurosurgery as I described, then it is something that you should also discuss with your neurosurgeon on how to get a normal eye position. The challenge now is when the eye recedes back, a lot of scar tissue may form, making it very difficult to place the eye in a normal position even with the correction of the structure around the eye. It may still be more practical to have ptosis surgery to get the eyelid in a more naturally symmetric position. Whenever an individual has a problem like yours, patients always think that everyone’s looking at them sees that asymmetry, but I always tell them that people look at you globally. If you are able to create some balance even with one or two millimeters of correction, then everything else averages out and blends and becomes camouflaged. I suggest that you meet with some doctors and the specialties I described so that you can get more information. You may need imaging studies. You also may need to figure out whether or not a more complex surgery in the orbit is necessary versus a more straightforward surgery that we routinely do in our office. Whether or not it’s to lift the eyelid or bring the eyelid down, it’s considerably less risky. Once you have your information, move forward with whatever you’re comfortable with. I hope that was helpful, I wish you the best of luck, and thank you for your question. This personalized video answer to your question is posted on RealSelf and on YouTube. To provide you with a personal and expert response, we use the image(s) you submitted on RealSelf in the video, but with respect to your privacy, we only show the body feature in question so you are not personally identifiable. If you prefer not to have your video question visible on YouTube, please contact us.
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February 18, 2015
Answer: The ptosis should be fixable but not the pupil. There is a list of issues that can cause a traumatic horner's syndrome. Generally, the ptosis is correctable with a conjunctival Muellerectomy. However, there is also a pupil abnormality associated with the Horner's syndrome and this cannot be corrected surgically. I recommend you see an oculoplastic surgeon to have this assessed.
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February 18, 2015
Answer: The ptosis should be fixable but not the pupil. There is a list of issues that can cause a traumatic horner's syndrome. Generally, the ptosis is correctable with a conjunctival Muellerectomy. However, there is also a pupil abnormality associated with the Horner's syndrome and this cannot be corrected surgically. I recommend you see an oculoplastic surgeon to have this assessed.
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