Since I last saw my plastic surgeon I realize not only do I want my dorsal hump removed, but also some tip work done. I have yet to talk to him about it, but I am seeing him the day before the surgery in a pre op appointment. Will it be a big deal to tell him I want to change my tip a day before the surgery? Also the whole surgery it's being covered by my insurance, so will the doctor have to resubmit the surgery plan to the insurance company if I want to add something to the surgery?
Answer: Schedule a 2nd consult sooner rather than later
If you want to change your planned surgery, it is better to schedule a 2nd consult as early as you can to go over what you want to add. Do not wait until the last minute to inform your surgeon you want to add to what you already discussed. If what you want to add has a medical indication, your surgeon needs time to request pre-authorization. This can take days to weeks. If it is not considered medically necessary, then you will need to pay a cosmetic fee, not only for the surgeons fee, but also for the extra anesthesia and OR time needed to do the additional procedures. Also, the surgeon may need to adjust the surgery schedule in order to allow enough time for your procedure. Personally, if a rhinoplasty patient told me last minute she wanted to change what was being done, I would wonder if she really knew what she wanted and would prefer she took time to give it some serious thought. Don't rush into rhinoplasty before you are sure of what you want. Also, there are different varieties of rhinoplasty surgeons. Not all feel comfortable doing extensive tip work. So for many reasons, it's better to discuss your goals with your surgeon early, and make sure you are on the same page. Good luck!
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Answer: Schedule a 2nd consult sooner rather than later
If you want to change your planned surgery, it is better to schedule a 2nd consult as early as you can to go over what you want to add. Do not wait until the last minute to inform your surgeon you want to add to what you already discussed. If what you want to add has a medical indication, your surgeon needs time to request pre-authorization. This can take days to weeks. If it is not considered medically necessary, then you will need to pay a cosmetic fee, not only for the surgeons fee, but also for the extra anesthesia and OR time needed to do the additional procedures. Also, the surgeon may need to adjust the surgery schedule in order to allow enough time for your procedure. Personally, if a rhinoplasty patient told me last minute she wanted to change what was being done, I would wonder if she really knew what she wanted and would prefer she took time to give it some serious thought. Don't rush into rhinoplasty before you are sure of what you want. Also, there are different varieties of rhinoplasty surgeons. Not all feel comfortable doing extensive tip work. So for many reasons, it's better to discuss your goals with your surgeon early, and make sure you are on the same page. Good luck!
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December 4, 2011
Answer: Yes cosmetic work usually can be altered/added at the last minute
The insurance company needs to be notified about the procedure before it takes place. Otherwise you might be responsible for the uncovered portion of that surgery. Usually the cosmetic part is not covered. You should speak to you surgeon about changes prior the pre-op appointment. One day could not be enough to get some answers from your insurance company. Your plastic surgeon can probably accommodate the cosmetic changes but it may mean more time (and money)
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December 4, 2011
Answer: Yes cosmetic work usually can be altered/added at the last minute
The insurance company needs to be notified about the procedure before it takes place. Otherwise you might be responsible for the uncovered portion of that surgery. Usually the cosmetic part is not covered. You should speak to you surgeon about changes prior the pre-op appointment. One day could not be enough to get some answers from your insurance company. Your plastic surgeon can probably accommodate the cosmetic changes but it may mean more time (and money)
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December 3, 2011
Answer: Health insurance and cosmetic surgery
You need to notify your surgeon as soon as possible that you have decided to make a change in the surgery. This will allow adequate time to plan for the surgery, make adjustments in the operating room schedule in case you need more or less operating room time etc.
You say the whole surgery is covered by insurance but health insurance does not cover dorsal hump removal unless it is the result of documented trauma. They only cover reconstruction for documented trauma and structural problems causing nasal airway obstruction. A dorsal hump does not usually fall into any of those categories and so its removal is not usually covered. Just because the insurance company says it will cover something before surgery does not always mean they will do so after it is billed. If they later suspect it was a non-covered procedure they will not pay and you will be responsible for the payment. Given your belief that they will cover the tip modification as well your whole case is suspiciously one of insurance being billed for non-covered procedures.
If part of a nasal procedure is reconstructive work and part is cosmetic they only pay for the reconstructive component. They will not even pay for the operating room or anesthesia time devoted to the cosmetic part.
I hope you realize that this format of posting questions and receiving answers lacks the face to face direct communication required for you to make an informed decision regarding your surgery.
My response to your question/post does not represent formal medical advice or constitute a doctor patient relationship. You need to consult with i.e. personally see a board certified plastic surgeon in order to receive a formal evaluation and develop a doctor patient relationship.
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December 3, 2011
Answer: Health insurance and cosmetic surgery
You need to notify your surgeon as soon as possible that you have decided to make a change in the surgery. This will allow adequate time to plan for the surgery, make adjustments in the operating room schedule in case you need more or less operating room time etc.
You say the whole surgery is covered by insurance but health insurance does not cover dorsal hump removal unless it is the result of documented trauma. They only cover reconstruction for documented trauma and structural problems causing nasal airway obstruction. A dorsal hump does not usually fall into any of those categories and so its removal is not usually covered. Just because the insurance company says it will cover something before surgery does not always mean they will do so after it is billed. If they later suspect it was a non-covered procedure they will not pay and you will be responsible for the payment. Given your belief that they will cover the tip modification as well your whole case is suspiciously one of insurance being billed for non-covered procedures.
If part of a nasal procedure is reconstructive work and part is cosmetic they only pay for the reconstructive component. They will not even pay for the operating room or anesthesia time devoted to the cosmetic part.
I hope you realize that this format of posting questions and receiving answers lacks the face to face direct communication required for you to make an informed decision regarding your surgery.
My response to your question/post does not represent formal medical advice or constitute a doctor patient relationship. You need to consult with i.e. personally see a board certified plastic surgeon in order to receive a formal evaluation and develop a doctor patient relationship.
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December 1, 2011
Answer: Change in plan for rhinoplasty
It's always better to discuss your goals well before surgery. Call the office and tell them your concerns and see if the surgeon can see you sooner. Don't expect the insurance to cover any cosmetic changes you want in the tip. That would be cosmetic and your responsibility. Insurance pays for things that are medically necessary.
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December 1, 2011
Answer: Change in plan for rhinoplasty
It's always better to discuss your goals well before surgery. Call the office and tell them your concerns and see if the surgeon can see you sooner. Don't expect the insurance to cover any cosmetic changes you want in the tip. That would be cosmetic and your responsibility. Insurance pays for things that are medically necessary.
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December 5, 2011
Answer: Before rhinoplasty, always best for you and your doctor to think ahead
You should contact your rhinoplasty surgeon immediately and make arrangements for another follow-up consultation. It is very important that you both agree on the plan. An excellent time to have another computer imaging session, so that you can see the predicted result that the doctor believes will fulfill your wishes.
Regarding the insurance issue, obviously, you will have to contact your insurance company and check with the doctor's business manager to find out what else has to be done administratively.
It is always better to have everything in place well before the day before rhinoplasty surgery. That way, your doctor will have all his notes, photographs, computer imaging, and all the documents necessary for him to execute the maneuvers necessary to get you the result you want.
Good luck!
Robert Kotler, MD, FACS
Facial Plastic Surgeon
Author, SECRETS OF A BEVERLY HILLS COSMETIC SURGEON
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December 5, 2011
Answer: Before rhinoplasty, always best for you and your doctor to think ahead
You should contact your rhinoplasty surgeon immediately and make arrangements for another follow-up consultation. It is very important that you both agree on the plan. An excellent time to have another computer imaging session, so that you can see the predicted result that the doctor believes will fulfill your wishes.
Regarding the insurance issue, obviously, you will have to contact your insurance company and check with the doctor's business manager to find out what else has to be done administratively.
It is always better to have everything in place well before the day before rhinoplasty surgery. That way, your doctor will have all his notes, photographs, computer imaging, and all the documents necessary for him to execute the maneuvers necessary to get you the result you want.
Good luck!
Robert Kotler, MD, FACS
Facial Plastic Surgeon
Author, SECRETS OF A BEVERLY HILLS COSMETIC SURGEON
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