I was originally going to do a laparoscopic or DaVinci hysterectomy, but after reading about the possible complications (and really not wanting anything pulled down through my V!!) and knowing that I have some large fibroids anyway, I decided to go ahead and do the open procedure, and have a TT at the same time. My surgery is scheduled at the end of January, and I am still shopping for a surgeon. I I might have to delay the surgery to get two docs to work on the same date.. I know the first 2-3 weeks are going to be extremely difficult, but I'm getting prepared.
I did not gain more than 30 pounds with my pregnancies, but from the age of 36, it seemed like I kept gaining another 8-10 pounds each year. Early in 2014 I was a pu$$y hair away from 200 lbs. I thought about all the ways being overweight had changed my personality- all the things I would not do, how panic-inducing it was to go anywhere other than work or the grocery store. Through a lot of self-examining I saw that I was using food in all the wrong ways- from the choices, the exact way that I ate (standing at the fridge) and all sorts of other stuff. I decided on a very strict low calorie diet with several periods of fasting. It was during this time that food was not an option that I was able to examine my (inappropriate) relationship with food. Also, because I was on such a low calorie plan- there is no way I could eat anything with flour. It was then that I discovered a lot of the "fibromyalgia" pains I had were completely absent when I was gluten free.
I lost about 40-45 pounds, now I'm just under 160 and comfortable. I don't think I need to loose much more- just tone up a little and get rid of that skin. I've been stable at this weight since March (yes- I lost the weight VERY quickly).. I'll post more as I interview docs..
Updated on 14 Jan 2015:
Hello ladies! I need to ask all the post-op princesses if they slept in a recliner or in bed- and if a recliner, for how long.
At first I was like heck yeah- we're getting one, but now that I see what I'm going to have to ask my husband to do- rearranging bedroom furniture in 3 rooms- I just hate to do it if it's only going to be for a few days. Getting a compact one to sit in during the day is no big deal, but having a full size recliner in *any* bedroom is going to be a pain, and staying downstairs in livingroom is not happening.
So if it's really necessary, I'll empty a guest room, take the dresser out of my room or whatever- I just hate to ask my husband to do all that (on TOP of everything I'll need him for in the first few weeks) and then a few days later tell him"OK, the recliner can go now"....
My bed is not high off the ground, I have a thousand pillows- is the turning and getting your legs into the bed the problem? Just painful or are we usually instructed not to move that way to protect the stitches/incision ?
Thanks for any input:)
Updated on 14 Jan 2015:
Had my pre-op today with obgyn- apparently he forgot, I forgot, or that is not his usual practice, but since I have to ask for them, I figured I might as well ask for specifics... What is the latest and greatest (old old, reliable, and cheap) thing for nausea? I'm used to having strong pain medicines on board, not expecting that to cause a problem, but if I end up with antibiotics, or just have a reaction to the anesthesia, I sure don't want to puke!!! and there are NO otc meds for nausea that are worth a crap.
I noticed a few people mentioned muscle relaxers- I suppose this is for the impending backache from being hunched over?
If you are post-op and you took percocet or vicodin, how many days did you take it? Seems like the thing to do is to get off asap- just curious about averages...thanks, ladies:)
Updated on 23 Jan 2015:
Starting to feel a little guilty about spending the money on myself.. I KNOW that comparing my situation to anyone else's is dangerous business, but sometimes I just can't help myself. .Honestly I can't say I've "tried everything" or that my belly is ruining my life. (well, maybe just the summer)...Most days I still look OK in clothes- I have more of an issue paying for the clothes than finding them.... I had not even entertained the idea of TT until the hysterectomy plan..
I am bothered by the droopy mons and the pu$$y boobs hanging out the sides of my underwear, bathing suit, or whatever. I hate when I start second-guessing myself!!! argh!!
It's paid for, my husband was OK with it, both surgeons are OK with it (PS sais PLENTY of laxity- no chance of vertical scar). I really should focus on all my ruined summers- because that's when it's worst. Yesterday I even mentioned to someone that with the weight gain (and subsequent loss) it's like some of the...eh.. "equipment" on the "playground" has relocated itself....
OK, I think I'm over it, I just took a really good ugly belly picture. Thanks for listening:)
Updated on 23 Jan 2015:
Updated on 23 Jan 2015:
Forgot to mention this earlier...
Surgeon- $5,400
Operating room fee (extra beyond hysterectomy) $1300
Extra anesthesia cost (beyond hysterectomy) $980
Compression garment not included
Updated on 27 Jan 2015:
Well, I am finally hours away from being rid of my big belly!!! I don't think I had that long of a wait compared to others, but jeez, the last 2 months have just dragged on.. I am finally at peace with spending the money (in fact I already am thinking of what I'll do next-lol)..
I wasn't able to lose any more weight before- meds to stop the bleeding make it impossible (and wouldn't you know despite the meds my uterus still was able to make a last stand...)BUT I did quit smoking before Christmas and have stayed "quit"..
I'll be staying in the hospital for 3 days, and believe it or not, I'm looking forward to it. I knew it was a small hospital, but I just saw last night it's only a 22 bed hospital!!
I didn't sleep a bit last night, and of course I was told to wear "loose clothes" so I'm wearing my fat clothes- then of course no makeup- etc.... I look awesome!!!
See y'all on the flat side, and happy healing to everyone!!
Updated on 30 Jan 2015:
Surgery time is 11- so grateful it isn't later in the day.
Updated on 30 Jan 2015:
Feeling almost ok today- I'm not gonna lie, but the first two days were horrible. Even though I discussed pain mgmt *at length* with my doctor, he really didnt take into consideration my high tolerance for medications. Once he finally bumped up the dilaudid, my iv came out, so he gave me the dilaudid tablets which are working if I stay on top of it. I had the exparel, and I would say it definitely worked for about 48 hours..
Updated on 30 Jan 2015:
i'll see your coughing fit, and raise you an hour long case of hiccups!! ouchie!!
Updated on 31 Jan 2015:
Swollen, of course....
Updated on 31 Jan 2015:
lets try it again!!
Updated on 31 Jan 2015:
I just realized I never posted before pics- I posted two questions with lots of pics, but never added them to profile..
Updated on 31 Jan 2015:
I had no idea the back pain was going to start so early!!! wow, it really is a killer!!
The incision pain wasn't there (I had the exparel) of course I had the pain from the MR- the 10,000 sit ups pain...the gas pain- totally catches me off guard- sometime I can't help but yell out "aaaaarrrgghhh!!"... but the worst pain is the hysterectomy pain. Imagine the worst period cramps you've ever had and multiply by 10.. Did you know even after they take that little troublemaker out you can still have "phantom pains" I thought that only applied to missing limbs/amputations...
So with all of this right patient/ right operation / right location jazz, when I get into the operating room, the nurse asks my name, b-day, what I'm having done.. I tell her my uterus had been misbehaving, it used up it's last chance, and it had to go!! So my GYN walks over and says "hey, do you want me to throw it against the wall and then stomp on it a few times? say it's from you?"
bahahahaaa!!
I mentioned the the extra skin had to go and it was lights out!! i was in surgery for 4 hours.
I was lucky enough to get to keep the catheter overnight- I was not ready to get out of bed yet. Overall my 3 day stay in the hospital was good. My one complaint- and I'm not sure if I'm going to do anything, is that the nurse I had the first two nights would not call the doctor. The first night- it was just for unrelieved pain. the second night I wanted him to turn the iv down to a low rate so I didn't have to get up to pee every hour.
Anyhow, when I saw the PS the next morning, the first thing he said was having the hysterectomy was the right thing to do- like THAT really needed to come out!! When I saw the GYN, he said it was one of the ugliest uteruses he'd ever seen. I was kind of relieved because I had doubts if it was really necessary, it it was the cause of a lot of my pain, etc.. I asked to see the pathology report and it was adenomyosis- which is endometriosis of the uterus- I also had 2 uterus sized fibroids hiding *behind* the uterus in the ultrasound (for a grand total of 14 fibroids!)
SO although I'm still having a good deal of pain, I'm confident I made the right choices, and in a month or so, I'm going to be on top of the world!!
Updated on 4 Feb 2015:
just a few pics- none really great. Glad to have the drains out- DID NOT HURT, but jeez that felt SO creepy-reminded me of how it feels the first time you feel a baby kick inside you. (shivers)
Updated on 10 Feb 2015:
I haven't updated much lately- no huge changes. Today I get the tape off and stitches out, so I'll do new pics later today..BUT What's really burning a hole in my mind is this- what will I fix next?!
Is anyone else thinking about another procedure? like what? how soon?
Even though I get lots of compliments on my boobs (!!ikr?) They only look good with a bra on (and if you had to pay your bra based on how hard it works for you, mine would require continuous OT, bonuses, raises, company car, & many other incentives!!) I had a BA in 2002- I could use a lift now, and would like to replace the round salines for silicone- possibly contoured. I'm learning that apparently it's way more complicated than what I though because of the pocket that is already formed, etc, etc. i would also be tempted to go back to my original surgeon, Dr. Roudner aka "Dr. Boobner" in Miami which would also complicate things- being that I don't live there anymore, and travelling there for work is pretty limited..
Then I looked at lipo. With my new flat stomach, the rest of my body is looking pretty flabby... but the pain.... and after just having a hysterectomy, I feel like I've used up my tolerance for pain for the rest of the decade.. holy [RS bleep]! who new that little troublemaker would cause so much pain on the way out!!!!! so what else? my face maybe? I could most definitely use some aggressive treatment on my forehead/frown lines and my deepening "nasolabial folds" I think they're called...
So how about y'all??
oh, and did anyone develop any stretch marks *after* the TT ??
Updated on 13 Feb 2015:
Well, it's been 18 days. I can't say there have been any *huge* surprises along the way. I feel like I recovered fairly quickly- not necessarily to my previous, but I've been driving, out shopping, showering by myself, cooking, walking the dog etc since the beginning of the second week. I have a very bad arthritis in my lower back and sacroiliac joints, so I am used to not being able to stay still for more than 20 minutes or so (unless I'm trying to increase my pain and stiffness). …………………..I believe this may have contributed to my quick return to being almost completely un-hunched. I was explaining it to a friend that when I first get up in the morning, I am definitely hunched, but as I move around, I gradually unhunch. If I sit for too long- particularly in the recliner where my back is somewhat rounded- I end up getting re-hunched. If I keep getting up and moving around, there is no time for the re-hunching to happen. Gradually spending some time sitting in a regular chair has helped. Conversely, if I spend too long on my feet- especially late in the day, I start bending over little by little and I will be completely hunched over again. lol- it can be like a time-keeping device.. .. oH, look! Denise is at a 70 degree angle- it must be about 830pm!..................................................I did have a few moments where I thought I had developed stretch marks. Now I need to mention I had not a one, anywhere on my body. As far as genetics go- I got some pretty lousy crap- acne, cellulite, skin that only burns, bad enamel... so for me to not get stretch marks from a 9 then 10 pound baby, it was a miracle……………………………………….. I also felt I was pretty borderline in needing this procedure compared to others... you can imagine how pissed I was when I looked down and saw a 6 inch section of multiple pink and purple lines above the incision on each side……………………….. Just that morning I was talking to my mom about why the TT has one of the top satisfaction ratings. I told her if you just go through and look at other people's end result, you might not think it's that great, but when you look at the before and after- ESPECIALLY 6+months post-op, then you understand. I went on and told her no, you might end up with a scar that isn't symmetrical, maybe a little ridge above the incision, maybe a dog ear, and of course the 14 inch scar-no matter how well it heals…………….but the only question you have to ask yourself is: Would I rather have this, or would I rather have my skin back?............................well, at the moment when I thought I had a belly full of stretch marks, I nearly lost it- I did want my skin back!! I can't say I did everything I could about the belly, or that I'd been dreaming of a TT forever. I found out I needed a hysterectomy, and that it was highly recommended that I do it open and have the uterus and fibroids removed in one piece. I was down with that- I didn't want morcellation, wasn't sold on the DaVinci, and by no means did I want anything pulled out of my vagina!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It just made sense to go ahead and do it at the same time…….. I already had a hypertrophic scar in the middle of my pubic hair, and a few weird ridges above it, and a little something I called "[RS bleep] boobs" where the area next to the mons was extremely flabby and saggy -especially compared to the rest of my body. Now THAT I knew would not respond to diet or exercise, so my FUPA (fat upper pubic area) and my FMPA (mid- lol) is really what I wanted fixed- but holy crap!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not at the expense of stretch marks!! I can't explain what happened- neither can my PS. These were not like the lines we get from compression garments. All I could do (besides whimper) is moisturize the heck out of my belly with bio-oil, and a few hours later it was gone…………… So anyhow, I told my PS about it, and he was like "hmm..I've never heard of that happening, but y'know, it IS a mystery why it doesn't happen. In a matter of an hour, your skin is stretched almost as tight as it is during pregnancy, and THAT had 9 months to adjust!"... .......*********So has anyone else had anything like this happen? I remember one of you beautiful ladies thought she had one, but it turned out to only be a scratch, thank God..
Updated on 13 Feb 2015:
A few nights ago I was out late, and my stomach felt so tight and puffy and just horrible. I felt like I was pulling the ass up all day, as well as a weird sensation in the crotch area- like I could feel the wind or something... I was wearing the smallest jeans I have, so I just assumed they were too tight and I needed to put them away for awhile.. When I got in front of the mirror I realized they were loose in the waist -not my butt or gutt pulling them down!!! It's CRAZY how at the end of the day I felt like it was huge, and it was actually smaller......and to add to the crazy- last night, same icky feeling... measured a 34 in the waist. worse binder to bed, woke up with a 31 inch waist!!
Updated on 21 Feb 2015:
I just saw this on another RSer and HAd to share!!!
(please comment where you stand- your expected stage and your actual stage)
THE PSYCHOLOGICAL STAGES OF THE ABDOMINOPLASTY EXPERIENCE
By Susan Hall and Renee Sullins
THE PSYCHOLOGICAL STAGES OF THE ABDOMINOPLASTY EXPERIENCE
I. The Adrenaline Phase: Healthy individuals choosing to undergo elective surgery have to overcome the fear of "going under the knife." This willful act of putting oneself in harms way is only possible if rationalization ("the thinking brain") is turned off for a brief interval of time. The mechanism is relatively simple: The intense desire for an improved self-image ("The Quest") gradually floods the system with Adrenaline, a hormone that allows us to sustain the rigors of fighting. Adrenaline production will gradually rise throughout the process preceding the surgery and will reach a peak on the day of the operation. It is the most effective way to keep fear at bay.
II. The Surgical Phase: Once surgery is rendered, "The Quest" has been fulfilled. The goal that had been driving the patient throughout the process has been achieved and the production of Adrenaline tapers off. The entire stock of this hormone will typically be used within the ten days following the operation. As Adrenaline levels slowly dwindle, the "thinking brain" gradually emerges from its slumber and starts asking hard questions. This scrutinization of ones acts coincides with the period of physical hardship: Abdominal tightness; Uncomfortable posture; Visibility of the incision; Pain of surgery and the uncertainty of the outcome.
III. The Depressive Phase: This can happen between 10 days to two weeks following the operation and is short lived. The sudden realization that one has put her/himself in harms way and has paid money for such a reckless act can hit the unprepaired patient like a freight train. Common false assumptions run from: "I will never stand straight again" to "I am disfigured for life." These assumptions are mixed with questions like: "Why have I done this to myself?", "Was it worth it?" and "Will I ever be normal again?" Patients who do not have a strong support team (spouse; family; friends) can be overwhelmed by this line of thinking and rapidly sink into depression. The support network acts as the safety net for the patients, reminding them that they are loved and that they are not alone in this process.
IV. The Emergence Phase: Gradually, the veil of uncertainty lifts off and the patient regains her/his composure. The reasons that had mandated the surgery in the first place slowly come back into focus. This is helped by the regaining of an upright posture and the gradual elimination of the discomfort experienced immediately following the intervention. This is when the patient starts appreciating the fruits of the experience and finally realizes that her/his troubles have not been in vain. Typically, this happens three weeks after the operation.
V. The Excitement Phase: With the elimination of fluid retention and the resolution of swelling, body contour and weight change. Surprisingly, I see this in my practice more as a SUDDEN occurence rather than a GRADUAL one. Tales related by my patients are too similar to be dismissed as a mere coincidence: "I woke up this morning and my pants were too loose" or "I could not believe that my weight dropped by (X) pounds when I stepped on my scales." This phase is commonly seen around 6 weeks following the operation.
VI. The Ecstasy Phase: Three months following the tummy-tuck surgery, the patient is back in full control of her/his destiny. Any remorse about having had the operation in the first place is long gone by then and is replaced by "Best thing I have ever done for myself." Strange enough, this great joy and satisfaction of having had the courage to undergo such a grueling process coincides with the stage of maximal visibility of the scar.
VII. The Crying (from joy) Phase: When the scars have faded at six months following the surgery, I take the "AFTER" photographs and put them side-by-side with the "BEFORE" pictures for my patients to see. This is when everyone happily cries.