I'm 40, and 15 months ago, I had a fat transfer with PRP to my lips and under-eye area. My doctor told me to expect my recovery to look like the fat had all died/been absorbed at about 6 months, but that it would come back and to expect my final results at 12 months. However, nothing stayed in my lips and there was only a small improvement in my under-eye area. I'm wondering if I should try it again. Why might this procedure have not worked for me, and what can I learn from it?
Answer: Fat transfer to eyes and lips I am surprised the fat transfer did not take under your eyes. I would certainly try this again but as your provider if they are using Nano fat or micro fat? Fat transfer to the lips I would take a pass on. The fat rarely stays in that area and if some parts stay and some parts resorb then you are left with irregularities. Filler, though not perfect, is predictable.
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Answer: Fat transfer to eyes and lips I am surprised the fat transfer did not take under your eyes. I would certainly try this again but as your provider if they are using Nano fat or micro fat? Fat transfer to the lips I would take a pass on. The fat rarely stays in that area and if some parts stay and some parts resorb then you are left with irregularities. Filler, though not perfect, is predictable.
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March 26, 2024
Answer: Improvement in Lip and Under Eye Area with Fat transfer Hello! These areas are really tricky with fat transfer. I find that the under eye area and lip area particularly do much better with filler treatment. It's a much more delicate, controlled, refined way to treat the areas over fat transfer. I would recommend you see a board certified plastic surgeon who might have other options to offer as well. Best of luck to you!
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March 26, 2024
Answer: Improvement in Lip and Under Eye Area with Fat transfer Hello! These areas are really tricky with fat transfer. I find that the under eye area and lip area particularly do much better with filler treatment. It's a much more delicate, controlled, refined way to treat the areas over fat transfer. I would recommend you see a board certified plastic surgeon who might have other options to offer as well. Best of luck to you!
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March 26, 2024
Answer: Fat transfer to lips and periorbital areas It has been our experience of almost 25 years that fat transfer to periorbital and perioral areas is more unpredictable then transfer to other areas like breasts and buttocks. Approximately 30% of injected volume would survive after 8-12 months around the eyes/cheeks and only 10-15% in the lips, marionette lines, perioral wrinkles and NLF. We usually combine micro and nano fat grafts to improve take. Our patients are made aware of this low survival rate and possibility of additional fat grafting (not sooner than 6-8 months) is discussed in the first meeting. Hope this helps.
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March 26, 2024
Answer: Fat transfer to lips and periorbital areas It has been our experience of almost 25 years that fat transfer to periorbital and perioral areas is more unpredictable then transfer to other areas like breasts and buttocks. Approximately 30% of injected volume would survive after 8-12 months around the eyes/cheeks and only 10-15% in the lips, marionette lines, perioral wrinkles and NLF. We usually combine micro and nano fat grafts to improve take. Our patients are made aware of this low survival rate and possibility of additional fat grafting (not sooner than 6-8 months) is discussed in the first meeting. Hope this helps.
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March 26, 2024
Answer: Facial Fat transfer reality. Having done lots of facial fat transfer in the past and having met a lot of patience, I’ve had the procedure I’ve come to the conclusion that facial fat grafting is inherently, unpredictable, imprecise, and potentially unforgiving, if patients are unhappy with the outcome. For these reasons I generally always recommend patients work with fillers, because fillers while not permanent are the opposite. Fillers are highly precise, very predictable, and quite forgiving if patients don’t like the outcome. The problem with grafting fat is that fat graft survival is based on the abundance and quality of host tissue supporting the grafted fat. In order for grafted tissues, to survive, they require a period of immobility, minimizing pressure and movement. This is more or less impossible in the lips. I’m not a big fan of PRP with or without fat grafting. The survival of grafted fat and highly dependent on technique and especially the abundance of host tissue. The thickness of subcutaneous tissues change, quite radically from the midface to the lower eyelid area. This makes the area inherently difficult to treat with grafting fat. Too many people treat fat grafting like they’re injecting fillers. ThisToo many people treat fat grafting like their injecting fillers. This tends to lead to high percentage of graft failure. If the grafted tissue is viewed more like tissue grafting, using concepts applied for skin grafting, bone grafting, or cartilage grafting survival rates may be higher. Without including proper before, and after pictures, we can’t begin to make an assessment. If it didn’t work, the first time, it is unlikely to work by doing the same thing again. Some variable needs to change. Either find a different provider or better yet work with fillers. For those interested in facial volume enhancement I usually like to refer people to view the results of Dr David Mabrie MD in San Francisco. I’m not suggesting everyone fly to San Francisco to get facial fillers. Seeing his before and after photos on his website can be highly inspiring and can serve as a reference so people can understand what can be accomplished with the right provider. I can’t leave links to websites but I think if you search his name you will find his website. Look for local providers who also have impressive portfolios with a proven track records. For fat transfer realize that early results can look very impressive but early results do not represent final long term results. Alway confirm what the time frame is for when after pictures were taken. In order to be considered final post op pictures should be taken at least 3-6 months from the date of the procedure. When having consultations ask each provider to show you their entire collection of before and after pictures of previous patients who had similar facial characteristics. Being shown a handful of pre-selected pictures representing only the best results maybe insufficient. How many before and after pictures did your provider show you? Best, Mats Hagstrom MD
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March 26, 2024
Answer: Facial Fat transfer reality. Having done lots of facial fat transfer in the past and having met a lot of patience, I’ve had the procedure I’ve come to the conclusion that facial fat grafting is inherently, unpredictable, imprecise, and potentially unforgiving, if patients are unhappy with the outcome. For these reasons I generally always recommend patients work with fillers, because fillers while not permanent are the opposite. Fillers are highly precise, very predictable, and quite forgiving if patients don’t like the outcome. The problem with grafting fat is that fat graft survival is based on the abundance and quality of host tissue supporting the grafted fat. In order for grafted tissues, to survive, they require a period of immobility, minimizing pressure and movement. This is more or less impossible in the lips. I’m not a big fan of PRP with or without fat grafting. The survival of grafted fat and highly dependent on technique and especially the abundance of host tissue. The thickness of subcutaneous tissues change, quite radically from the midface to the lower eyelid area. This makes the area inherently difficult to treat with grafting fat. Too many people treat fat grafting like they’re injecting fillers. ThisToo many people treat fat grafting like their injecting fillers. This tends to lead to high percentage of graft failure. If the grafted tissue is viewed more like tissue grafting, using concepts applied for skin grafting, bone grafting, or cartilage grafting survival rates may be higher. Without including proper before, and after pictures, we can’t begin to make an assessment. If it didn’t work, the first time, it is unlikely to work by doing the same thing again. Some variable needs to change. Either find a different provider or better yet work with fillers. For those interested in facial volume enhancement I usually like to refer people to view the results of Dr David Mabrie MD in San Francisco. I’m not suggesting everyone fly to San Francisco to get facial fillers. Seeing his before and after photos on his website can be highly inspiring and can serve as a reference so people can understand what can be accomplished with the right provider. I can’t leave links to websites but I think if you search his name you will find his website. Look for local providers who also have impressive portfolios with a proven track records. For fat transfer realize that early results can look very impressive but early results do not represent final long term results. Alway confirm what the time frame is for when after pictures were taken. In order to be considered final post op pictures should be taken at least 3-6 months from the date of the procedure. When having consultations ask each provider to show you their entire collection of before and after pictures of previous patients who had similar facial characteristics. Being shown a handful of pre-selected pictures representing only the best results maybe insufficient. How many before and after pictures did your provider show you? Best, Mats Hagstrom MD
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