Post vs Pre Tragus incision?
In general, a post-tragal incision (even in male patients) is better because the scar is hidden. Loss or blunting of the tragal cartilage and contour can typically be avoided and is not an issue for experienced, meticulous surgeons.
The attached link provides more information.
Pre versus post travail incisions
In most facelifts an incision is required in front of the ear to remove excess facial skin. In my practice 90% of the female facelifts have post tragal incision lines performed. But that does leave 10% who want the incision in front of the tragus and if you desired that approach and I was treating you then you would have that option.
Pre vs postragal incision
Both are acceptable. I generally use the pos-tragal in female's and some men who lack thick bearded hair. In males you do not want to advance hair into the ear. Both inciisions should camophlage themselves over time.
You are correct and there is no right answer
You are correct and there is no right answer. For many patients I will do a post tragal incision but typically someone who has a fuller face, you are absolutely correct, that you can efface that gentle concavity in the pre auricular area and it may be noticeable. Done well by an extremely experienced surgeon that should not be the case. I choose to use pre tragal incisions in male patients and certain female patients. Attached please find a video discussing and showing the above.
Facelift Incision placement in front of the ear
Women tend to do best with an incision that is post-tragal rather than in front of the tragus. The key is meticulous thinning of the skin to allow for a natural tragal contour. Many patients also benefit from a small suture that is placed beneath the skin in front of the tragus to create a subtle pre-tragal depression.
Subtle surgical nuances are what ultimately make for happy patients. Make sure your surgeon can tell you exactly what he or she intends to do to camouflage your incisions and help you avoid the stigmata of an "operated face."
Facelift incisions can vary from Doctor to Doctor depending on their experience and preference. A post-tragal incision usually heals up very well and it can be performed in such a way as to avoid any blunting and look like a natural ear.
When you visit a doctor that you are considering having perform your facelift, ask them to see before and after photos of their work. Be sure to see enough photos to where you feel comfortable with the incisions, procedure and expected results.
Pre vs post-tragal incision
Thank you for a really insightful question! I almost always use a tragal incision, hugging the edge of the tragus precisely. This is almost imperceptible when done CORRECTLY, and obviates all of the issues with the pre-tragal and the post-tragal incisions. All experienced facelift surgeons have their preference, though. My best advice is to not let this one issue overshadow the entire facelift, since there are many other components and complexities involved. Seek out a board certified plastic surgeon with expertise in facelifting and address these issues during the consultation, specifically delineating what you find unnatural or suboptimal with a particular incision. Spend time looking at their pre and post-op photos to see if their aesthetic sense matches yours, and base your decision on the whole picture. Best wishes for a beautiful result!
I would prefer the incision along my ear to be in front of the tragus, pre-tragus, rather than post-tragus.
Hi, I have performed facelifts for over 30 years and have performed many minimally, invasive type facelifts. There are many nuances, when performing facelifts, including placement of the incision and thinning out the skin above the triages once the excess skin has been removed. I have always thinned the skin (post excision) over the triages and placed a dissolvable suture to keep the natural looking "tarsal dip" in front of the ear. You can have the incision placed in front of the tragus if you prefer.
Following the beauty principles outlined in my book on face and body beauty, women look the most feminine, youthful and attractive with heart shaped faces. Heart shaped faces have cheeks that are full and round in the front. Cheek augmentation with a dermal filler or using cheek implants for a permanent enhancement will create full, round cheeks that will feminize the entire face.
A weak chin creates an imbalance making the nose appear larger, the mid face top heavy and the lower face look short that de-emphasizes the lips and allows early formation of a double chin. Chin augmentation using a chin implant will add projection to the chin creating harmony and balance to the lower face. I have found that placement of a silastic chin implant, through a small curved incision under the chin (also allows excess skin removal) to be very safe, quick and highly effective.
If you have "jowls” these are sagging facial tissues and an indication for some form of a SMAS facelift. The underlying SMAS layer, of the face, must be dissected, lifted, trimmed and re-sutured (not merely folded or suspended with threads or sutures that will not last). The excess skin is then removed and the facelift incisions closed.
My most popular facelift is the minimally invasive, short incision facelift that has all the benefits of more invasive facelifts (traditional, mid-face and subperiosteal facelifts) but with these added benefits:
- very small incisions
- minimal tissue dissection = less bruising and swelling = rapid recovery
- can be performed in 90 minutes or less, with or without general anesthesia
- no incisions within the hair = no hair loss
- excess fat can be removed
- excess skin removed
- cheeks, chin and jaw line can be augmented with dermal fillers (I prefer Restylane Lyft) or facial implants
- most patients fly back home to parts all over the world in as little as 3 days post-op
I combine facial shaping with every facelift procedure. When jowls are present, these should be done in concert and not alone or separately in order to create a naturally, more attractive face.
Hope this helps.
A post tragal incision gives a superior result if done correctly. the skin needs to be thineed and a stitch needs to be placed to recreate a natural looking tragus. If not, I agree that a pre tragal incision looks better. Look at your surgeons results and see how his or her incisions look. that will help you with your choide.
all ghe best
Most surgeons would probably be fine doing the incision that you request. For men, most surgeons already do a pre-tragal incision to prevent beard tissue from being pulled into the ear canal.
Your concerns regarding a post tragal incision are justified. That said, a careful facial plastic surgeon will minimize tension in the area of the tragus as well as thin the skin to help prevent a deformity here. When these maneuvers are performed, a natural appearing tragus should be the result.