the celebrity blogs are talking about madonna getting a ribbon lift. They say a ribbon lift is “[A tube-like device] is tunnelled under the skin and has lots of tiny hooks that attach to the muscle and tissue,” plastic surgeon Alex Karidis explains. “We then pull it upwards to lift the whole area.” I also have sagging facial skin and wonder if I should seek this out or are there better methods.
What is a Ribbon Lift?
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Absorbable neck lift device - not to be confused with thread lifts
The 'ribbon lift' is a procedure performed with Coapt Systems 'Endotine Ribbon' device. The key to the procedure is not the device, but the surgeon and procedure that is actually performed. This is not the same device or the same procedure as the older thread lift. The ribbon device is like a collar with spikes on one side. The device is made of an absorbable material so that the body dissolves the device over time, unlike older thread devices which were permanent. The theory behind the device is to insert the spikes of the device into the platysma muscle and pull the muscle back. This is the same thing which is done with neck lifts performed in conjunction with lower facelifts. The procedure will do nothing for the jowls, cheeks, or other parts of the face. It is promoted for use in people with platysmal bands (turkey neck) and excess skin.
It can be inserted simply by making a small tunnel the width of the device. This can lead to suboptimal results. If broad elevation is undertaken as with more convential neck lift procedures, good results can be obtained.
For more information about the device itself, check out the manufacturers web site at:
Pass on the "ribbon lift"
It was enticing a few years ago to try to produce some of the effects of a facelift without surgery. Thread lifts and ribbon lifts are all part of this concept. The problem with them is that they really didn't work much at all and even when there was a change it didn't last long. The procedure cost much more than it was worth because the company that made the threads priced them to the doctors at a very high level. Now, nobody is doing these anymore.
A properly done facelift (not a mini or a Life Style lift) performed by an expert will give you the full result you want without looking operated on. There is only a 2 week recovery until you are extremely presentable and the pain is very minimal for most patients. The result will last and you will be very happy you went this way.
Ribbon Lifts might not be for everyone
The ribbon lift use a multipoint fixation device to elevate and secure the deeper tissues of the face. It workes great in theory, however, the device has remained palpable for some for longer than three months. It seems to work best with a full facelift when it is placed deep to the muscle layer and fat as opposed to on top of the muscle and fat. We are seeing some great results with the ribbon lift of the brow and cheeks.
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Ribbon and thread lifts
You can see the satisfaction rates from threadlifts on the RealSelf website... only 13% of patients were happy with their decision to have a thread lift. 87% of patients were unhappy.
A ribbon lift employs a similar philosophy of no undermining pulling on tissue. Experienced facelift experts know that thread lifts simply pull through, as the results slip away. The only thing remaining are the threads, which are troublesome to remove, especially if there are many of them. Typically, revision facelifts involve removal of old threadlift material and knots.
Endotine has various lifts but these are usually performed with undermining surgery as an additional lifting tool. They do involve large supposedly self-dissolveable multi-hook structures that are left in the face. There have been problems with the early versions with pain and palpability, so Endotine is redesigning them.
Your best bet is to save up for a proper facelift with a facelift expert, take the 10-14 days off, and have a much better, more natural, and longer lasting result.
The Ribbon Lift Explained
We all recognize that facial aging is associated with the thinning and sagging of soft tissues of the face. Depending on the degree of sagging, various Facelift techniques are employed to reposition the tissues in their higher youthful positions.
The vast majority of Facelift methods undermine the skin widely but differ in the extent of undermining of the next layer, the SMAS, which is then suspended higher, taking the tension off the skin closure.
In recent years, we have witnessed a failed attempt to lift the face WITHOUT skin undermining. This method used barbed sutures which caught the deeper subcutaneous tissues and allowed the surgeon to INITIALLY lift them. Invariably, without scar fixation, the elevated tissues sagged with time and the operations were complicated by cable suture palpability, visibility and infection.
The Ribbon Lift uses a similar lifting concept. A flexible, dissolving ribbon with barbs / tines in it is pushed into the deep facial tissues AFTER the skin has been largely lifted off. the ribbon is thereby engaged and is then pulled up until the desired lift was accomplished at which time it is stitched to the temple muscles. This allows the fixation to be kept until the ribbon dissolves months later. The problem is that the ribbon may be palpable AND that in the absence of scar the higher fixation may not be maintained as it is with a regular Facelift.
Ribbon lifts are ineffective as a solitary procedure
The ribbon is basically a specialized suture. The company initially marketed it as a stand alone noninvasive procedure but this quickly proved to be a poor procedure with a low success rate. The ribbons can be successfully use at the time of a real Facelift just to supercharge the tightening result. I typically use the ribbons in this way when people have thicker necks and more difficult anatomy because they allow for a powerful tightening effect.
The ribbon lift is basically a midface cheek lift performed with Coapt's endotine device. It is a limited incision procedure...the long term results are not known.
The Ribbon lift is based on an implant that looks like a quarter inch "ribbon" of absorbable material with little teeth that grab at one end and. It looks like its made of plastic and similar in appearance to a cable tie. It is typically placed under the skin to snag the deeper tissues. It is then anchored at a higher location to lift and hold them in place. The extra skin is then removed. Over time the device is completely absorbed (usually 6-12 months. The advantages to these procedures are clear: less surgery. However, the results are generally less than expected and most patients find them unsatisfactory. This is why you will see great initial enthusiasm but rarely see these devices persist over time as their populariy wanes.
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