My philtrum is around 17 to 20mm, it's hard to measure. Do I need a lip lift too? facial harmony is important to me. I've been told some contradictory things. One surgeon told me I could have a lip lift with rhinoplasty the other said i couldnt as I'll have to have wing surgery (basplasty ?) Is it true i cant have a lip lift if I need surgery to my wings? Also i do have gum show when i laugh hard. Pics included When i photoshop both i look insane but i think im just bad at it