Since CoolSculpting Freezes Fat to Kill It, Why Not Just Repeatedly Apply Ice Bags?

I had a free consultation for Coolsculpt and have read online about the 'popsicle' studies that led researchers to exam whether freezing fat to kill the cells would be effective for spot fat reduction. This led to Coolsculpt. But if this method is effective, why couldn't one apply ice bags on fat bulges and gradually destroy the fat cells?

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CoolSculpting does not freeze fat!

You are obviously a curious and thoughtful person, and ask a question that the original creators of the CoolSculpting device had to consider carefully.

There is a misconception that has been widely circulated, perhaps for the sake of simplicity, that Coolsculpting freezes fat. This is not actually the case. The device has been carefully and cleverly designed to extract heat from the tissues via the application to the skin of cold, but not freezing, plates.  The temperature of the skin in contact with the plates is continuously monitored throughout the entire procedure, and the temperature of the plates altered according to that feedback such that the skin and fat will never freeze but rather be chilled.  

If you were to apply something frozen to the skin, you might reach temperatures that would injure fat cells, but you would also get frostbite in the overlying skin. If you were to apply something not quite frozen to the skin, it would rapidly warm up and you would never reach a temperature cold enough in the the fat layer to injure the fat cells.

The reason the device, and only a device such as this, can injure fat cells without damaging the overlying skin, is because of a  simple but wonderful difference in a physical property of water and fat: the freezing temperature.  The temperature at which fat freezes is higher than the temperature at which water freezes.  Since skin has a lot of water and fat doesn't, you can applying below-freezing plates to the skin that are not cold enough to freeze the skin, but cold enough to chill the fat cells just enough that they are gently shifted into a process called apoptosis, or programmed cell death, and therefore die off slowly, one by one, during the months after treatment.

i hope this answers your excellent question.

CoolSculpting does not freeze fat!

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You are obviously a curious and thoughtful person, and ask a question that the original creators of the CoolSculpting device had to consider carefully.

There is a misconception that has been widely circulated, perhaps for the sake of simplicity, that Coolsculpting freezes fat. This is not actually the case. The device has been carefully and cleverly designed to extract heat from the tissues via the application to the skin of cold, but not freezing, plates.  The temperature of the skin in contact with the plates is continuously monitored throughout the entire procedure, and the temperature of the plates altered according to that feedback such that the skin and fat will never freeze but rather be chilled.  

If you were to apply something frozen to the skin, you might reach temperatures that would injure fat cells, but you would also get frostbite in the overlying skin. If you were to apply something not quite frozen to the skin, it would rapidly warm up and you would never reach a temperature cold enough in the the fat layer to injure the fat cells.

The reason the device, and only a device such as this, can injure fat cells without damaging the overlying skin, is because of a  simple but wonderful difference in a physical property of water and fat: the freezing temperature.  The temperature at which fat freezes is higher than the temperature at which water freezes.  Since skin has a lot of water and fat doesn't, you can applying below-freezing plates to the skin that are not cold enough to freeze the skin, but cold enough to chill the fat cells just enough that they are gently shifted into a process called apoptosis, or programmed cell death, and therefore die off slowly, one by one, during the months after treatment.

i hope this answers your excellent question.

Controlled Cooling With CoolSculpting

The CoolSculpting device has been engineered to provide controlled and precise cooling at a consistent temperature for a period of time necessary to cause a natural death of the fat cells without damaging the surrounded skin, nerves, blood vessels, tissues, etc. This is what makes the treatment so safe. There is no way that this can be accomplished by applying ice bags. Ice bags will cause inconsistent freezing at an inconsistent temperature. This will lead to the same clinical manifestations as frost bite, with damage to the skin and surrounding tissues. Please do not try anything like that.

Controlled Cooling With CoolSculpting

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The CoolSculpting device has been engineered to provide controlled and precise cooling at a consistent temperature for a period of time necessary to cause a natural death of the fat cells without damaging the surrounded skin, nerves, blood vessels, tissues, etc. This is what makes the treatment so safe. There is no way that this can be accomplished by applying ice bags. Ice bags will cause inconsistent freezing at an inconsistent temperature. This will lead to the same clinical manifestations as frost bite, with damage to the skin and surrounding tissues. Please do not try anything like that.

Coolsculpting is controlled cooling- its okay to eat popsicles!

The fat must be a specific temperature for a specific period  of time to trigger fat cell death. While the initial popsicle cases stimulated the idea, cool sculpting was developed through extensive scientific research that identified the precise temperature and time period needed to stimulate fat cells to die and to do this without causing skin damage. The combination of isolating the fat in the suction chamber and maintaining controlled cooling allows for safe, smooth, and reproducible results. If only ice bags would do it!

It is important to note, the children had prolonged contact with extreme cold before the cheek fat wa affected- so do not worry about eating popsicles!

Andrea Willey, MD
Sacramento Dermatologic Surgeon

Coolsculpting is controlled cooling- its okay to eat popsicles!

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The fat must be a specific temperature for a specific period  of time to trigger fat cell death. While the initial popsicle cases stimulated the idea, cool sculpting was developed through extensive scientific research that identified the precise temperature and time period needed to stimulate fat cells to die and to do this without causing skin damage. The combination of isolating the fat in the suction chamber and maintaining controlled cooling allows for safe, smooth, and reproducible results. If only ice bags would do it!

It is important to note, the children had prolonged contact with extreme cold before the cheek fat wa affected- so do not worry about eating popsicles!

Andrea Willey, MD
Sacramento Dermatologic Surgeon

Icepacks instead of Coolsculpting

This will not work and poses a danger as Coolsculpting does not freeze the skin. Coolsculpting is a cold application just above freezing. Keep in mind freezing skin will injure the skin- whereas Coolsculpting is specifically designed to apply temperatures that kill fat but do not injure skin at a temperature below freezing. Coolsculpting works excellent. .

 

Steven Hacker, MD
West Palm Beach Dermatologic Surgeon
5.0 out of 5 stars 4 reviews

Icepacks instead of Coolsculpting

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This will not work and poses a danger as Coolsculpting does not freeze the skin. Coolsculpting is a cold application just above freezing. Keep in mind freezing skin will injure the skin- whereas Coolsculpting is specifically designed to apply temperatures that kill fat but do not injure skin at a temperature below freezing. Coolsculpting works excellent. .

 

Steven Hacker, MD
West Palm Beach Dermatologic Surgeon

Zeltiq's CoolSculpting can not be duplicated with application of icepacks to the skin

If one were to try to freeze the fat by freezing the skin with ice long enough, the skin would die and this necrosis would heal with scarring probably.  There also can be cirulatory changes to the skin.  Zeltiq has been able to preserve the quality of the skin by localized the temperature reduction in the fatty tissues.

Ronald Shelton, MD
Manhattan Dermatologic Surgeon
4.9 out of 5 stars 37 reviews

Zeltiq's CoolSculpting can not be duplicated with application of icepacks to the skin

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If one were to try to freeze the fat by freezing the skin with ice long enough, the skin would die and this necrosis would heal with scarring probably.  There also can be cirulatory changes to the skin.  Zeltiq has been able to preserve the quality of the skin by localized the temperature reduction in the fatty tissues.

Ronald Shelton, MD
Manhattan Dermatologic Surgeon
4.9 out of 5 stars 37 reviews

Can the effects of CoolSculpting be replicated by the application of ice bags

CoolSculpting is performed using a device that rather than delivering cold actually extracts energy (thereby cooling) the tissue.  The device carefully monitors this process with continual feedback so that the temperatures achieved are such that the fat will freeze but not so cold that other tissue such as skin, muscles, nerves or blood vessels will.   One could never monitor such a process with the use of an ice bag.  It is highly unlikely one could deliver cold enough temperatues to the fat with an ice bag alone and even if one were able to do so,  you will most likely freeze the overlying skin.  As a result of the freezing of the skin,  a scar will be induced.  

Ted Brezel, MD
Long Island Dermatologic Surgeon
5.0 out of 5 stars 4 reviews

Can the effects of CoolSculpting be replicated by the application of ice bags

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CoolSculpting is performed using a device that rather than delivering cold actually extracts energy (thereby cooling) the tissue.  The device carefully monitors this process with continual feedback so that the temperatures achieved are such that the fat will freeze but not so cold that other tissue such as skin, muscles, nerves or blood vessels will.   One could never monitor such a process with the use of an ice bag.  It is highly unlikely one could deliver cold enough temperatues to the fat with an ice bag alone and even if one were able to do so,  you will most likely freeze the overlying skin.  As a result of the freezing of the skin,  a scar will be induced.  

Ted Brezel, MD
Long Island Dermatologic Surgeon

Coolsculpting is the advanced technology of gradual fat tissue cooling, not of fat freezing.

Dear writer, your question is a very important one. By answering it I hope to satisfy your curiosity and also keep your approach to fatty tissue reduction safe. Coolsculpting utilizes a very specific algorithm for gradually extracting the heat from the fatty tissue. This may be called cooling, but never freezing. This algorithm, carefully studied and designed by world renowned scientist and engineers, is what makes this technology so safe, as well as effective. Putting icepacks repeatedly over the areas of excess fatty tissue may lead to frostbite, permanent loss of skin sensation and undesired atrophy or indentation of the area (because the very carefully anatomically designed shape of the noninvasive suctioning 'cup' is not used). Lastly, patients may bring themselves to a state of low body temperature (hypothermia) that could, in some cases, caused death. Your question was a very genuine and important one. I hope I helped clarify your concerns. With regards, Dr. Leyda Bowes

Coolsculpting is the advanced technology of gradual fat tissue cooling, not of fat freezing.

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Dear writer, your question is a very important one. By answering it I hope to satisfy your curiosity and also keep your approach to fatty tissue reduction safe. Coolsculpting utilizes a very specific algorithm for gradually extracting the heat from the fatty tissue. This may be called cooling, but never freezing. This algorithm, carefully studied and designed by world renowned scientist and engineers, is what makes this technology so safe, as well as effective. Putting icepacks repeatedly over the areas of excess fatty tissue may lead to frostbite, permanent loss of skin sensation and undesired atrophy or indentation of the area (because the very carefully anatomically designed shape of the noninvasive suctioning 'cup' is not used). Lastly, patients may bring themselves to a state of low body temperature (hypothermia) that could, in some cases, caused death. Your question was a very genuine and important one. I hope I helped clarify your concerns. With regards, Dr. Leyda Bowes

CoolSculpting vs Ice application

The CoolSculpting apparatus has several protective agents to keep the skin from freezing, which would kill the skin. It is computer monitered to prevent this. There are also physical barriers for skin protection. Direct ice application would have none of these and would result in skin death. Best Wishes, Maurice Vick MD

CoolSculpting vs Ice application

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The CoolSculpting apparatus has several protective agents to keep the skin from freezing, which would kill the skin. It is computer monitered to prevent this. There are also physical barriers for skin protection. Direct ice application would have none of these and would result in skin death. Best Wishes, Maurice Vick MD

DON'T use icepacks!

It sounds like a clever way to cheat and treat the fat but it will only burn your skin, cause discoloration and harm. You can not create the "cold" needle to freeze the fat under without damaging the dermis on top using ice cubes.

CoolSculpting uses an “applicator” that delivers gentle cooling to the skin, and “freezes the fat cells” and causes slimming of the body. This is not a form of weight loss, but can only contour the body. Once the applicator is removed, the fat cells return to normal temperature, but in the process a “cell death signal” is activated. The dead cells are then disposed of through the feces. Each application of Coolsculting can remove up to 25% of fat cells, so repeat applications may be needed to get to the desired results.

There is an art to placing these applicators on the body to get the ideal body contour. Therefore, an initial consultation with us is key in planning out the ideal treatment protocol for your body and desired results. Even if you have had lipo or tummy tuck in the past, cryolipolysis or Coolsculpting can still be used to further help you. Not everyone is a candidate for CoolSculpting, and this can only be determined by doing a good physical exam. Lasers and non invasive treatments are the wave of the future.

CoolScupting is ideal for shaping the fat from the arms, bra fat, back fat, love handles, muffin top or belly fat, as well as outer and inner thighs or buttocks area. New applicator will also be able to reduce neck fat and provide a new contour to the lower face and upper neck area.

No surgery. No anesthesia. No downtime. Any skin type. No sun sensitivity.

Tanya Kormeili, MD
Los Angeles Dermatologist
5.0 out of 5 stars 6 reviews

DON'T use icepacks!

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It sounds like a clever way to cheat and treat the fat but it will only burn your skin, cause discoloration and harm. You can not create the "cold" needle to freeze the fat under without damaging the dermis on top using ice cubes.

CoolSculpting uses an “applicator” that delivers gentle cooling to the skin, and “freezes the fat cells” and causes slimming of the body. This is not a form of weight loss, but can only contour the body. Once the applicator is removed, the fat cells return to normal temperature, but in the process a “cell death signal” is activated. The dead cells are then disposed of through the feces. Each application of Coolsculting can remove up to 25% of fat cells, so repeat applications may be needed to get to the desired results.

There is an art to placing these applicators on the body to get the ideal body contour. Therefore, an initial consultation with us is key in planning out the ideal treatment protocol for your body and desired results. Even if you have had lipo or tummy tuck in the past, cryolipolysis or Coolsculpting can still be used to further help you. Not everyone is a candidate for CoolSculpting, and this can only be determined by doing a good physical exam. Lasers and non invasive treatments are the wave of the future.

CoolScupting is ideal for shaping the fat from the arms, bra fat, back fat, love handles, muffin top or belly fat, as well as outer and inner thighs or buttocks area. New applicator will also be able to reduce neck fat and provide a new contour to the lower face and upper neck area.

No surgery. No anesthesia. No downtime. Any skin type. No sun sensitivity.

Tanya Kormeili, MD
Los Angeles Dermatologist

Coolsculpting freezes fat to kill it, why not just repeatedly apply ice bags?

This is definitely a question that has crossed many patients mind.  The answer is simply Coolsculpting is ice bags on steroids!  The Coolsculpting procedure is also painless, certainly after applying an ice bag on your skin the feeling of pain will go away but with coolsculpting this is not a problem and it covers a larger concentrated area.  The amazing thing about coolsculpting is that it does not cause any damage to tissue other than fat.  There is no damage to nerves or blood vessels. 

Coolsculpting freezes fat to kill it, why not just repeatedly apply ice bags?

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This is definitely a question that has crossed many patients mind.  The answer is simply Coolsculpting is ice bags on steroids!  The Coolsculpting procedure is also painless, certainly after applying an ice bag on your skin the feeling of pain will go away but with coolsculpting this is not a problem and it covers a larger concentrated area.  The amazing thing about coolsculpting is that it does not cause any damage to tissue other than fat.  There is no damage to nerves or blood vessels. 

These answers are for educational purposes and should not be relied upon as a substitute for medical advice you may receive from your physician. If you have a medical emergency, please call 911. These answers do not constitute or initiate a patient/doctor relationship.