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Breast Implants Removed After 20 Years

UPDATED FROM Audrey6
1 month post

The doctor says I'm okay!

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Audrey6
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After I told my doctor about the pinching in the lower alveolar area, he asked me to come see him (ahead of my August 3rd appointment). Today was 4 weeks and 3 days post-explant. The minute he looked at me (and felt the area), I could tell he wasn't the slightest bit alarmed. He told me he's seen this many times, and he's sure it's not tethering. I asked how he knew, and he demonstrated by moving the tissue back and forth in that area. He said if the scar was stuck to internal tissues, my breasts would not move much when he moved the build-up in that area back and forth. He said this sort of tightening is often to be expected with new scars because they tighten the area. He said they will soften over time and seemed sure the pinching would go away. He told me to massage the area to help soften and flatten the scars. He said it could take months to fully subside. That's fine by me. Just knowing this isn't permanent really put my mind at ease, even though I was getting ready to accept it.

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July 18, 2015
That is great news ~ your doctor sounds wonderful and reassuring! Also, it is good to know for those of us behind you in this journey in the event we experience the same. Thanks for sharing and massage on!! :)
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July 18, 2015
Thanks! My doctor truly is wonderful. Yeah, massage on! Ha ha.
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July 19, 2015
Ho Audrey, I ve the same problem. I d explant the 15 of May. What sort of massages has your doc suggested you to do? How many times per day and for how many minutes?
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July 26, 2015
Hi Angelina. My doctor said I should massage in the alveolar area. He demonstrated with two fingers up and down and in a circular motion. He said perhaps 30 seconds at a time and that I could do it many times per day (there was no specific number of times per day). I asked him how firmly I should massage, and he said firm but not to the point where it causes any pain. He said to put my arm up while massaging (left arm for left breast, right arm for right breast). So I've been doing that, and in addition, I've been massaging other areas where I feel anything hard (scar tissue). The doctor says massage helps soften and flatten the scar tissue. He said to be patient -- that it could take months. My left alveolar is most affected, and I have seen some improvement since I started the massage. I must be patient. Have you seen your doctor about this? I'm sure he/she will put your mind at ease. Mine told me this is not at all uncommon. I felt so much better after I saw him. Good luck to you, and let me know if you have any more questions.
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July 26, 2015
Thanks a lot for your reply. My doc said To massage because it improves this dent, but told me that it won't disappear! Anyway Now I ve noticed that My left breast is bigger and harder! I think I need To see the doc. ...
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July 27, 2015
Wow. My doctor never said it wouldn't disappear. I wonder what your doc's definition of "disappear" is. I mean, could a tiny bit of a dent be left -- one which is hardly noticeable? My left breast is also a bit bigger, and I feel some hard lumps in places, which seem to move around. I think this is the capsule (my doc left it in and said my body would eventually absorb it). Anyway, for what it's worth, my doctor didn't seem the slightest bit concerned and implied that this will likely go away with time. I hope that's the case for you. It's still early for both of us. Our breasts are going through the healing process now. Our breast tissue will "fluff up" after being squished for so long, and there may be temporary asymmetry (one bigger than the other). And the pieces are coming back together (filling in the hole made by the implant). I don't think I'll really worry until six months go by. But even now, that dent is improving a bit. If a tiny dent is left, I guess I can live with that. Better than having those rocks on my chest any day.
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July 27, 2015
hi Audrey. I hope you are right! I know that we need time To heal properly. And anyway I am already happy of my result And my small chest because I hated And was ashame of those massive and hard rocks. Keep in touch and please let me know about your progress.
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July 27, 2015
I will keep you updated, and I'd love to hear about your progress as well. Happy healing!
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July 29, 2015
I will, Angelina, and you, too. Oh I just got a post (not here -- I don't know how my pages got separated). A woman told me her breasts looked "sad" for 3+ months. Now she's at 5 months post-explant, and she said there's been an amazing improvement and that she looks amazing. I was so encouraged by that. Hope you are, too.
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July 29, 2015
Hi , I went To the doc and he says I ve got mastopathy that's why my left breast is bigger. But he says that it has nothing To do with removal. I need to do ecography. I hope everything will be ok. I am happy to hear some good news.
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July 30, 2015
I'm glad you saw your doctor. I do not know anything about mastopathy or ecography, but it sounds like your doctor has helped you and that you are pleased with what he told you, so that's great!
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July 20, 2015
Read your story and really inspiring,you are realy brave.....i had them for 20 years too..am 46 now, one is raptured but it didn’t lose its shape and they look natural as ever as its only from the inner side..am planned to replace them on the 7th of August.. but somehow the idea of removing them keeps wondering around my thought. but Am afraid i will be shocked ,i see all those fotos after the removal and/or the Frankenstein stiches they do to reshape the breast am afraid to regret that i didnt put a new ones and need to go through a whole surgery from the start :( any advice please?
Thanks.
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July 26, 2015
Hi. Thank you for your kind words. I actually had mine replaced 8 years ago (when I was 52). Silicone was back, so I thought silicone would be softer than the saline implants I had. Also, I wanted them to be a bit smaller. Afterwards, they didn't look much smaller, and they still felt harder than I wanted. In retrospect, I wish I just had them removed instead of replaced. It took me 8 whole years to be completely sure that I just wanted them out (although subconsciously, I knew a lot sooner).
I know what you mean about the fear of the outcome. I was petrified after seeing photos. So I was delighted when none of my fears come true. True, I still have this lower alveolar dent (mostly in left breast), but I'm already seeing improvement after just one week of massaging. The doctor says it will takes months to completely heal.
I guess you have to ask yourself some questions, such as: Are you prepared to have a different body? I was totally ready and welcomed my flat chest again. And I loved that I could feel nice soft breast tissue again, as opposed to the firm rocks with little sensitivity when touching them.
Also, make a list of the pros and cons. This helped me a lot. I had few entries in the "pro" list. The "cons" included, "My clothes don't fit right." "I'm embarrassed when someone new touches them (they feel fake)." "I look so fake in tight shirts." And, "If not now (when I'm 60), when? When I'm 70?"
Statistically speaking, you won't be deformed or have horrible scars.
Can you post-pone your surgery until you are sure? I'd be glad to "talk" anytime. Good luck!
February 13, 2016
Hi Audrey6, it has been a while since your last update and I was wondering how the massage was working on your indentations. I had my explant three weeks ago and I also am getting indentations. Your breasts look great by the way! Thx!
UPDATED FROM Audrey6
28 days post

Four weeks post-explant -- the ever evolving boobs

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My boobs are shaping up rather nicely. However, something unexpected happened. Namely, there's a pinching in where the PS went in (lower alveolar) in both breasts, especially my left breast. I posted a question about this here on RealSelf, and a doctor replied, "You're suffering from a scar contracture in this area. Regular massage may help soften the scar and correct it somewhat. However more than likely releasing the tethered scar will be necessary. This can be done with local anesthesia in the office."
Yikes! I wasn't expecting this. I read in other places that it's too early, or that massage is the answer, but I can't seem to find instructions on just how to massage (just the scar area or the whole boob), how long to massage each day, etc. I'm going to see my PS on August 3rd, but I was curious to know if anyone had any thoughts/experience with this.
By the way, the photo makes it look like one boob is higher than the other, but it's not. I must have tilted the camera (or my body) slightly when taking it.
I am still very happy. I was never expecting perfection but got a little greedy when everything looked pretty good at first. Sure there was some sagging flesh, which was quite visible when I bent over, but even that looks better now.
Thank you, wonderful, brave ladies!

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July 14, 2015
We are close in age and your frame is very similar to mine. You look awesome and give me lots of hope!! Did he removed the capsule, too? Did you have a lift? You really look perky...congrats!!
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July 14, 2015
Hi! No, he did not remove the capsule. He said it was pretty thin and therefore not necessary. I did not have a lift. I'm glad you think I look perky. Thanks! I never expected this and was quite pleased when the initial sagging subsided (hope it keeps doing so). Now if only these dents (from the scars both external and internal) would go away and stop the pinching ... Fingers crossed! Are you thinking of having your implants removed?
July 14, 2015
I think if you look this good initially, you will really be pleased in 6 months when they fluff and settle, based on the other reviews/pics that I have seen.
Yes, absolutely I want to get mine out! I am frightened, but keep putting one foot in front of the other and moving forward towards getting it done. :) I am 56 and have had them for 25 years!! It started out as a vague idea awhile back when I saw Melissa Gilbert talk about having her explant on Dr. Oz. It has just been eating at me that I need to do something. I did a little research and ended up here....I have been on this site alot over the last week and also at http://www.breastimplantsupport.org. Although that site is not active any longer, there is still valuable information I have found there.
Best of luck to you...I will be following your journey!!
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July 14, 2015
Thanks a lot. I'd love more fluff, but I'd give that up if the pinching would go away. I can hardly wait to hear what my doctor has to say.
I started out like you -- a vague idea. Then I started writing down all the cons, that is, why I no longer wanted them, which included, (a) I'm sick of looking and feeling fake; (b) I'm sick of being embarrassed when a guy touches them for the first time (I think they can tell); (c) My clothes don't fit right -- there are so many things I can't wear; (d) okay, do I want to be walking around with these things when I'm 80? If not now, when? etc., etc. The list became very long. And today, I have a whole new wardrobe and want to shop and shop! I wear a little padded bra, and even if my boobs don't turn out perfect, who's going to see my naked body anyway? I mean, if some guy doesn't like me because my chest isn't perfect, then he doesn't like me anyway. I never thought I'd be talking this way at my age. Ha ha. It never ends, does it?
You must be encouraged to see the 97% "worth it" on this site for breast implant removal. Anyway, I'm here for a pep talk if you need me. :-)
July 14, 2015
Thank you sooo much for your thoughtful response and your support. The items on your list are exactly what should go on my list and I started crying when I got to "if not now, when?" That is it...that is my reality and I never looked at it quite that clearly until you worded it that way. THANK YOU! This post is what I need to hold onto and reread as I follow through this. I hope to pay it forward on this site and help others out down the road as much as you have helped me today.

I hope the pinching you are experiencing begins to subside. August 3rd is a ways away...maybe you should call your PS in the interim for a little peace of mind and hopefully a solution - ?? I am sending some healing wishes your way!!!
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July 14, 2015
Thank you so much for the healing wishes! In fact, I called my PS, and he said to come and see him before August 3rd. I have an appointment this Friday.
Another cool thing on this site is that you can post questions to doctors (they volunteer their time to answer questions). Most told me to wait a few months because it's difficult to know the final result right now. A few mentioned the potential need for that "release of the tethered scar" procedure, but again said 4 weeks post-op is too soon to tell.
I'm so glad my response was helpful to you! I guess everyone is different, and it took me a little time to think, "Yep, I am quite sure now." And this site helped me so-ooo much to go through with it. So many women told my story, and some things were so specific to my situation that it was almost eerie.
I'm here for you anytime. Thanks again for your support! I'll post what the doctor says Friday.
July 14, 2015
That is wonderful news that you can see the doctor Friday. Less time to worry ~ I'm sure he will tell you it is normal, then you can get on with the healing process with less concern in the back of your mind!
It is amazing ~ each story I read, I see a little bit of me, sometimes I see a lot of me, but no story seems foreign or unusual to me. We are all just wanting to correct a decision that was made when we were at a different place in our lives.
Wishing you good luck on Friday (and every day) ~ I'll be looking forward to hearing what your PS says.
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July 18, 2015
Hey Doublerocks! :-) The doctor says I'm okay. I will post an update in a bit.
You said it perfectly -- about us wanting to correct a decision that was made when we were at a different place in our lives. It's really nice that we can correct that decision when we are ready. All the best to you, and I look forward to hearing about what you decide. We are all here for you. Thanks!
July 18, 2015
That is wonderful news, Audrey6...what a relief!! I look forward to seeing your updates.
I think I have made my decision to move forward with the next big step. I will post an update in the next day or two myself. I love this supportive site ~ I feel like you are all my "bonus family" (and much better than some of the actual family!) :)
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July 18, 2015
Thanks and I will definitely post updates and photos in the weeks ahead.
Congrats on making your decision. We all know when it's time. I gave it a lot of thought before I was sure, but in retrospect, I was always sure. That list I wrote (the cons), combined with a consult with the PS, sealed the deal, and I was so anxious to get them out that I ruined my summer, namely, swimming. Ha ha. I don't mind giving up swimming this summer -- there's always next summer, and giving up summer was a tiny price to pay for my happiness.
You're so right about this "bonus family" and, yes, better than some of our actual family. Ha ha!
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July 15, 2015
What is happening to your nipple is also known as a "nipple cave in" and also "fish mouth nipple". To be honest, it was suggested I remove my implants thru my original nipple incisions but I was terrified of this happening (after seeing a few women go thru it on RS) so I opted for a new incision under the breast. If you google those two phrases though, you may find better search results on how to try to attempt to correct it without going another surgery route first. I believe you can even search those phrases on RS and see what the women on this site did for it as well. Regardless though, you look so much better without implants!
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July 15, 2015
Thanks for the info. This is very helpful. I'll check it out. I'm going to see my doctor about it Friday. I posted the question to doctors here on RS, and most said to give it time. They said it's too early on to know what's happening. Thank you, too, for your kind words. It's nice to hear I look better without the implants. I think so, too. No regrets.
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7 days post

One week post-explant visit with my doctor today

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My doctor removed the strips and band-aids under my nipples today. As he was taking them off, he told me, "We were able to remove those ugly scars. It's true. My last surgeon left slits that looked like knife wounds. I had asked him if there was anything that could be done before the surgery, and he said he thought this was possible. So I still have black stitches there, which will dissolve, but I can tell that the ugly slits are gone or at least greatly minimized! I'll have a better look when the stitches dissolve and will post photos then.
He also told me the sagginess (from the stretching all those years) might improve over time, depending on my own body's elasticity, and he told me I might go down half a bra size once the swelling goes down, but that everyone is different. He said I healed remarkably well and had no sign of infection (fluid build-up under the breast, etc.).
And then on the way out, I ran into someone whom I will call Miss Bummer. I met her during my first consult two months ago. To protect her identity, I won't say if she was a nurse or a physician's assistant, but she seems to know her stuff. When I first saw her, she looked at me sympathetically and said, "How are you?" It was as if I had a limb amputated or was just diagnosed with a terminal disease. I told her, "Great, and the doctor said I might even improve over time." To which she emphatically replied, "No, you won't." She even said I might look more saggy after the swelling goes down (I don't even see a whole lot of swelling). Then I started to worry, just a bit, that the wrinkles I saw under my nipples on Day 1 were my end result. In other words, maybe the swelling is smoothing out the wrinkles. We'll see. My follow-up appointment is in 6 weeks, and Miss Bummer told me there will be no improvement after that. In other words, what I see in 6 weeks will be what I will look like forever. I sure didn't get that impression from my doctor, and why would he mislead me? He already has his money.
Okay, what to make of Miss Bummer. She actually seemed a bit angry. Why? All kinds of thoughts went through my head. Was she angry with the doctor for giving me unrealistic expectations? Was she angry just because she's against having breast implants removed without a replacement (she kind of hinted at this when we first met)? She told me she has breast implants, so maybe the whole idea of removing them is foreign to her (what? you want to be flat and saggy!). She's young, too (30 something), so maybe this has something to do with it. Well, I like to think people have good intentions, so maybe she felt I needed to hear this.
I was a little bummed for about 10 minutes afterwards, but then I was happy again. I thought, "Come what may. I am still very happy I did this." To be continued...

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June 23, 2015
Good for you for not letting the comment stick for long. Everyone is at different end of the spectrum and some won't get it but you will be such a positive influence for many that do. Good luck in continued healing :)
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June 23, 2015
Thanks so much. :-)
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June 23, 2015
Aha, a typical case of female jealousy. This Miss Bummer is beginning to hate her own implants but she misses the pluck to get them removed, perhaps because some doctor had told her that afterwards her boobs will be a saggy mess... and so she typically fends off the blow by hitting you with the same stick.

Good job you did, getting your explant! You won't regret not having to monitor your boobs, always this background worry in your life ♥
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June 24, 2015
Spot on, Mabelia -- your last paragraph. And I enjoyed reading your opinion about Miss Bummer. You know -- that crossed my mind. It would sure explain the subtle hostility, and she was in a big hurry to bring me down as soon as she saw how exuberant I was. Thanks a bunch.
June 26, 2015
Don't pay any attention to Miss Bummer, I am 57 had first implant for 12 years, second set for 6 years both capsulated bot times, and explant 6 months ago and I am still improving every day. I have been wearing a bra I found at Target, I believe it is either Hanes or Warner (no tags) but comes in a 2 pack and looks like a circle of spandex with at T back set of straps. I wear it 24/7 so comfy. I was very wrinkled, used palmers cocoa butter cream for stretch marks, it is amazing how your body can heal. so give it time my PS said I wouldn't truly see final results until one year out and wouldn't even discuss a lift until after that. I don't think I need a lift it might make my breasts a little less wrinkly, but then I end up with the horrible anchor scar. I never had kids, and my girlfriend that had 2 kids and breastfed showed my her breasts and mine look like hers, just 57 years old natural breasts. Maybe Miss Bummer is having neck aches, back aches, foggy brain, all the problems us "explanters" no longer have. Things will improve over time, keep wearing the bra, to support the skin retract, you will see improvement.
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June 27, 2015
Thank you so much, Sunnygal. This is wonderful to hear from a person who would know -- a person who's been through this. Miss Bummer implied I will get worse and not better. This is not what my PS told me. It's interesting that you looked similar to your friend with natural breasts. I think that at least part of our sagging is a result of gravity and aging so that would have happened anyway. I'm a bit concerned about the slits I'm seeing where the PS went in -- areola, bottom part. Buy hey it's not even 2 weeks yet, so maybe this will improve as well. But you know -- whatever the outcome, I have no regrets. I feel so happy and free. And who's gonna see my naked body anyway? I'm not seeing anyone right now, but if I do meet someone special and he dumps me because he doesn't like my chest, then he doesn't truly love me anyway. I love myself now, which is more important than anything. Thanks for the tips (bras, cream). I also wear sports bras 24/7, and they are very comfy. This was a nice discovery. I never wore sports bras before, and they are so-ooo much better than regular bras. Ditto padded sports bras. Thanks again for taking the time to write to me. :-)
June 28, 2015
my incisions for the total of three surgeries were along the top of the areola, when my ps cleared me I started using Bio oil for about a month, then he cleared me to use the silicone sheets, scar is flatten and no redness if I remember right I went thru 2 boxes of the silicone strips and am happy with the results.
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June 29, 2015
Thank you! Good to know, and I'm glad your scars flattened. That is encouraging. Do you remember how long after surgery you started using the Bio oil (what is Bio oil?) and also the silicone strips (can you buy those over the counter)?
June 30, 2015
I bought both at a CVS which is a local drug store chain where I live, the Bio oil is a small bottle of oil that helps scar heal, and the silicone sheets were CVs brand ask your pharmacy, I have even seen both products at Target. I started using when my doctor said I could had to have the scars healed pretty well since the silicone sheets stick on like badges. Both are over the counter
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July 2, 2015
Great, thanks a lot. I have a CVS near me.
July 1, 2015
I know exactly who you're talking about!! I had my implants done by Dr. Cuber and I love them!!! She told me all negotiate things about what I wanted to do, so I asked the doctor when I got to see him and he reassured me that everything she said was not true!!! He's a great doctor!!! I haven't done a review yet, but I will soon. I'm so glad you're happy with your results!!! You're the one that has to be happy not anyone else!!!
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July 2, 2015
Thank you, Veronica. It's interesting that you had the same experience with that person. What is up with her? I'm so happy you love your implants and had such a wonderful doctor -- our Dr. Cuber. It gave me great pleasure to write a review for him. All the best to you!
July 9, 2015
I met her during a consult and also know to whom you are referring to. Check your inbox for my own personal horrible experience with this woman.