I would like to do saline implants due to concerns about silicone. I know a lot of doctors say it's safe but I just feel way more comfortable with saline. The issue is I also want to do them over the muscle because I'm extremely active (can do 15 pull ups). Are there any successful cases of saline being placed over the muscle, maybe with fat grafting too so it doesn't look fake? I am a B cup with a wider rib cage for context.
Answer: Over vs. Under When undergoing breast augmentation there are a number of choices which need to be made: saline or silicone? Volume: Larger or smaller? Incision? However, one of the most commonly debated choices is that of implants placement: subglandular/ submammary vs. subpectoral/ submuscular? While many surgeons recommend submuscular placement there are distinct differences to each approach. Subglandular Augmentation (“overs”): • Subglandular augmentation means place of the implant underneath the breast tissue but above the pectoralis muscle. Subglandular placement spares the pectoralis muscle which leads to reduced post operative pain/discomfort and no impact on muscle function post augmentation. Recovery is also faster when compared to subpectoral augmentation. • Subglandular augmentation can impact mammographic evaluation of the breast. However, as dedicated breast radiography has become more prevalent this has become less of an issue. Fellowship trained radiologists have become familiar with evaluating breasts post augmentation. It is also important to note that implant position does not interfere with visualization of breast tissue via contrast enhanced MRI (the most sensitive and specific study available for breast cancer detection). • Studies suggest there is an increased risk of capsular contracture when implants are placed in a subglandular space. • Aesthetically, implants placed superficial to the pectoralis major create a rounded, convex appearing breast profile. This effect is camouflaged, at least initially in larger breasted patients. However, as a woman ages fat atrophies and breast tissue descends. The result is a more noticeable implant specifically in the upper pole. Similarly, patients who have thin coverage superiorly are more likely to be able to perceive the implants and at higher risk of visible rippling. Subpectoral Augmentation (“unders”): • Subpectoral augmentation is technically a bit of a misnomer. Traditionally, subpectoral augmentation involves the release of the pecotralis major muscle from its lower attachments. This allows the muscle to “window-shade.” The upper hemisphere of the implant sits underneath the muscle (dual plane). This release contributes much of the discomfort encountered postoperatively by patients. • Subpectoral implants have a lower rate of capsular contracture. • Aesthetically, in contrast to submammary implants (which are prominent in the upper pole- especially in thinner patients), the pectoralis muscle both conceals the underlying implant and flattens the upper pole. This flattening effect creates a natural sloping as one proceeds from the upper portion of the implant to the lower portion. • The most commonly cited drawback to sub-muscular augmentation is the animation deformity associated with contraction of the overlying muscle. Each approach has both costs and benefits. Patients are unique and so too is each operative plan. A potential augmentation candidate may be better suited for one approach or the other. With regards to your specific question, the general rule of thumb for avoiding the "fake" look is conservative sizing. As always, your board certified plastic surgeon can help guide you in your decision making process.
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Answer: Over vs. Under When undergoing breast augmentation there are a number of choices which need to be made: saline or silicone? Volume: Larger or smaller? Incision? However, one of the most commonly debated choices is that of implants placement: subglandular/ submammary vs. subpectoral/ submuscular? While many surgeons recommend submuscular placement there are distinct differences to each approach. Subglandular Augmentation (“overs”): • Subglandular augmentation means place of the implant underneath the breast tissue but above the pectoralis muscle. Subglandular placement spares the pectoralis muscle which leads to reduced post operative pain/discomfort and no impact on muscle function post augmentation. Recovery is also faster when compared to subpectoral augmentation. • Subglandular augmentation can impact mammographic evaluation of the breast. However, as dedicated breast radiography has become more prevalent this has become less of an issue. Fellowship trained radiologists have become familiar with evaluating breasts post augmentation. It is also important to note that implant position does not interfere with visualization of breast tissue via contrast enhanced MRI (the most sensitive and specific study available for breast cancer detection). • Studies suggest there is an increased risk of capsular contracture when implants are placed in a subglandular space. • Aesthetically, implants placed superficial to the pectoralis major create a rounded, convex appearing breast profile. This effect is camouflaged, at least initially in larger breasted patients. However, as a woman ages fat atrophies and breast tissue descends. The result is a more noticeable implant specifically in the upper pole. Similarly, patients who have thin coverage superiorly are more likely to be able to perceive the implants and at higher risk of visible rippling. Subpectoral Augmentation (“unders”): • Subpectoral augmentation is technically a bit of a misnomer. Traditionally, subpectoral augmentation involves the release of the pecotralis major muscle from its lower attachments. This allows the muscle to “window-shade.” The upper hemisphere of the implant sits underneath the muscle (dual plane). This release contributes much of the discomfort encountered postoperatively by patients. • Subpectoral implants have a lower rate of capsular contracture. • Aesthetically, in contrast to submammary implants (which are prominent in the upper pole- especially in thinner patients), the pectoralis muscle both conceals the underlying implant and flattens the upper pole. This flattening effect creates a natural sloping as one proceeds from the upper portion of the implant to the lower portion. • The most commonly cited drawback to sub-muscular augmentation is the animation deformity associated with contraction of the overlying muscle. Each approach has both costs and benefits. Patients are unique and so too is each operative plan. A potential augmentation candidate may be better suited for one approach or the other. With regards to your specific question, the general rule of thumb for avoiding the "fake" look is conservative sizing. As always, your board certified plastic surgeon can help guide you in your decision making process.
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July 1, 2025
Answer: Implants over muscle In my experience, for active athletes, body builders, implants over the muscle works well. Gel are less likely to ripple when placed over the muscle than salimes. Fat grafting by itself (w/o implants) is also an option. An exam and consultation with a plastic surgeon is recommended to discuss your best options and expectations.
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July 1, 2025
Answer: Implants over muscle In my experience, for active athletes, body builders, implants over the muscle works well. Gel are less likely to ripple when placed over the muscle than salimes. Fat grafting by itself (w/o implants) is also an option. An exam and consultation with a plastic surgeon is recommended to discuss your best options and expectations.
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July 1, 2025
Answer: Breast Augmentation Options I appreciate your concerns and I have performed breast augmentation on many serious bodybuilders. Depending on each individuals specific anatomy, the implants can be placed above or below the chest muscles and still look natural, even while working out. If your breasts are very small, and there is little breast tissue, placement of saline implants over the muscle may show rippling of the skin, which is undesirable. Fat grafting may be an option, however, placement of the saline implants under the muscle would probably be a better choice. Come see me or another board certified plastic surgeon in our area to explore the best options for you. Good luck.
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July 1, 2025
Answer: Breast Augmentation Options I appreciate your concerns and I have performed breast augmentation on many serious bodybuilders. Depending on each individuals specific anatomy, the implants can be placed above or below the chest muscles and still look natural, even while working out. If your breasts are very small, and there is little breast tissue, placement of saline implants over the muscle may show rippling of the skin, which is undesirable. Fat grafting may be an option, however, placement of the saline implants under the muscle would probably be a better choice. Come see me or another board certified plastic surgeon in our area to explore the best options for you. Good luck.
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