3 months after surgery, all swelling gone & has been for a month. When swelling went away, a dip showed in my nose. Dip size is not changing. Went to DR today, he suggested Radiesse, I asked if this was permanent, he said, "After 4 years with a few touch ups, we'll see, it should stimulate collagen production." But I've never heard of it as a permanent solution. I want PERMANENT. Should I let him inject? Or should I ask for a permanent surgical solution at the 6-12 month mark?
Answer: Nasal Depression After Rhinoplasty
In general, having a significant nasal dorsal depression after rhinoplasty is not normal. However, if it persists up to 6-9 months one can do a temporary hyaluronic acid filler, which is safe on the dorsum of the nose. I would highly recommend not doing a particular long-lasting filler like Radiesse and certainly not a permanent filler as they do not do well long-term. A hyaluronic acid filler will temporize until you are about a year out and can consider doing a revision rhinoplasty to fill the supratip deformity.
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In general, having a significant nasal dorsal depression after rhinoplasty is not normal. However, if it persists up to 6-9 months one can do a temporary hyaluronic acid filler, which is safe on the dorsum of the nose. I would highly recommend not doing a particular long-lasting filler like Radiesse and certainly not a permanent filler as they do not do well long-term. A hyaluronic acid filler will temporize until you are about a year out and can consider doing a revision rhinoplasty to fill the supratip deformity.
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Answer: Rhinoplasty
Radiesse is made of calcium hydroxyalpatite. It is temporary. I would wait and see how it looks after several months. As the tip swelling continues to go down the dip may reduce in size.
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Radiesse is made of calcium hydroxyalpatite. It is temporary. I would wait and see how it looks after several months. As the tip swelling continues to go down the dip may reduce in size.
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Answer: Solution to dip on bridge of nose
I agree that it's a bit earlier to proceed with a permanent solution to your problem. Your nose will continue to evolve over the next several months so I think waiting until then would be helpful. Although you haven't noticed any change to your nasal swelling lately, the nasal skin with shrink wrap over time.
A filler injection with radiesse or restylane is temporary. Some surgeons use silicone off-label, but I don't have experience in this. If the problem persists a onlay graft of cartialge or other tissue could be used to permanently fill in the area.
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Answer: Solution to dip on bridge of nose
I agree that it's a bit earlier to proceed with a permanent solution to your problem. Your nose will continue to evolve over the next several months so I think waiting until then would be helpful. Although you haven't noticed any change to your nasal swelling lately, the nasal skin with shrink wrap over time.
A filler injection with radiesse or restylane is temporary. Some surgeons use silicone off-label, but I don't have experience in this. If the problem persists a onlay graft of cartialge or other tissue could be used to permanently fill in the area.
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Answer: Please be careful about ANY permanent filler
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With all due respect to my silicone-friendly colleague, I took oral board examinations for both ENT surgery and for Plastic Surgery, and I'd hazard a guess that I would have immediately failed both of these examinations on the spot if I would have suggested using silicone injections to the nose, especially just 3 months after surgery!
First, I'd wait. 3 months is early in the healing process for rhinoplasty and too early in my opinion for judging your results or for optimally treating with fillers.
I'd suggest waiting until at least 6 months, during which time I'd emphasize tissue massage of the nose. Then I'd consider a "temporary" filler such as Juvederm to see if you can get a result that suits you. Be sure about this and be fairly certain that a re-operation is very unlikely before considering a "semi-permanent" or permanent filler.
Permanent means Permanent
I have considered Radiesse (Hydroxyappetite) a "semi-permanent" filler and would consider Silicone a permanent filler.
Silicone and other permanent fillers are definately controversial, especially in the nose. In the nose there is always going to be a higher chance of infection of any artificial material because of it's proximity to the nasal cavities and the consequences of this can be catastrophic (think Michael Jackson's exposed nasal implant). Additionally, permanent or semi-permanent fillers can be very problematic for any re-operation on the nose. Add to this that as we age our tissues naturally thin-out over time, leading to the possibility that "micro-droplets" of silicone or other material would become visible as nodules below the skin.
I don't have experience with liquid silicone injections, but the medical literature is not all supportive of this treatment, especially to the nose, as being "safe" and "perfect" with "permanent results to your problem."
Hope this helps,
Nick Slenkovich, MD FACS
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Answer: Please be careful about ANY permanent filler
Wait First!
With all due respect to my silicone-friendly colleague, I took oral board examinations for both ENT surgery and for Plastic Surgery, and I'd hazard a guess that I would have immediately failed both of these examinations on the spot if I would have suggested using silicone injections to the nose, especially just 3 months after surgery!
First, I'd wait. 3 months is early in the healing process for rhinoplasty and too early in my opinion for judging your results or for optimally treating with fillers.
I'd suggest waiting until at least 6 months, during which time I'd emphasize tissue massage of the nose. Then I'd consider a "temporary" filler such as Juvederm to see if you can get a result that suits you. Be sure about this and be fairly certain that a re-operation is very unlikely before considering a "semi-permanent" or permanent filler.
Permanent means Permanent
I have considered Radiesse (Hydroxyappetite) a "semi-permanent" filler and would consider Silicone a permanent filler.
Silicone and other permanent fillers are definately controversial, especially in the nose. In the nose there is always going to be a higher chance of infection of any artificial material because of it's proximity to the nasal cavities and the consequences of this can be catastrophic (think Michael Jackson's exposed nasal implant). Additionally, permanent or semi-permanent fillers can be very problematic for any re-operation on the nose. Add to this that as we age our tissues naturally thin-out over time, leading to the possibility that "micro-droplets" of silicone or other material would become visible as nodules below the skin.
I don't have experience with liquid silicone injections, but the medical literature is not all supportive of this treatment, especially to the nose, as being "safe" and "perfect" with "permanent results to your problem."
Hope this helps,
Nick Slenkovich, MD FACS
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April 26, 2011
Answer: Dip in nose after rhinoplasty
Dear Jeff,
Liquid silicone is a safe injectable material that is perfect for this kind of problem. It may take 1-3 sessions as only microdroplets are injected, but if will give permanent results to your problem.
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Nima Shemirani
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Answer: Dip in nose after rhinoplasty
Dear Jeff,
Liquid silicone is a safe injectable material that is perfect for this kind of problem. It may take 1-3 sessions as only microdroplets are injected, but if will give permanent results to your problem.
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Nima Shemirani
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