POSTED UNDER Breast Implant Revision REVIEWS
Breast revision: double capsule removal, implant downsize and full anchor lift.
ORIGINAL POST
I'll try to make this as brief as possible. 30yrs...
WORTH IT
I'll try to make this as brief as possible. 30yrs old, 3 kids, 5'4 and weight fluctuates between 147-160. Pre op was a 36B? Very deflated and just wore the bra for comfort and to appear as though it actually had some sort of boobs.
I had my first augmentation here in town on 6/2015, transaxillary incision, mentor mod profile, 475 filled to 500L/525R. These were 14.2cm in diameter with 4.9cm in projection. He specialized in "natural scarless augmentation" and thought it was absurd that I'd need a lift (one consult I went to recommended a crescent lift on the left side). From the beginning I was unhappy with the shape and size, not the look we discussed. They weren't attractive, just a fuller old me. I have always experienced slight pain in my right breast and at times it appeared a little more round up top. When discussing my concerns my PS said "I don't know what to tell you, buy a new bra" brushed off my concerns and sent me on my way at my 3 month follow up with a $6,000 quote to upsize to a different profile.
12/2015 I had my revision, or implant exchange with a new surgeon. We switched the saline out for silicone. This time through the inframammary fold, Allergan Natrelle, style 45(uhp) 700cc on both sides. These are 13.6cm diameter with 6.4cm projection. There seemed to be a mix up from the beginning as I thought we were doing HP, and left the size up to him depending on what fit best in surgery. He too must have thought he used HP instead of UHP based on his notes in my chart. All was well in the beginning, no where near the pain I experienced the first time around. All of a sudden around 3 months post op I started experiencing pain on the left side. Thought I was over reacting and that it was nerve regeneration. Well as the months passed (March2016-August2016 to be exact) it became more persistent, all while my PS insisted that it wasn't the implants or surgery sending me on my way spending less than 10 minutes at a time with me when I'd go in to see him. The last time I saw him, his comments were less than polite or sympathetic and I left the office crying. His proposal was to open me up, downsize about 200cc and close me back up, nothing more. All for about the cost of implants, bra and maybe anesthesia fees.
Since then I have been on the search for a new PS to help me rectify this mess I've gotten myself into. I found a PS about an hour away who brought some light to the situation, advising that although my nipples weren't pointing down or sagging to my belly button, the reason I was unhappy from the beginning was due to me needing a full lift (lollipop or anchor) to reshape the breast, reposition the areola and downsize the areola.. along with implants of course. Although she was more helpful than my last 2 PS's Her short time in practice scared me and as you can imagine I'm a traumatized from this all wondering who I can trust to just fix my boobs so I can move on with my life! Not to mention all of the costs of all of this. I've been a member on realself for quite some time (under a different user name) and have followed many different ladies on here for quite a while and decided that I was going to search for a dr out of town. I kept coming back to dr. Vath in Denver, CO and all the amazing work he has done. I've read nothing bad about him, the reviews seem legit, his scars are near perfection, the man just seems like he's awesome at his job and he stands by his work..which is something I need at this point considering everyThing I've been through, should there be any complications I need a surgeon who will do anything they can to help me without brushing me off and charging me an arm and a leg!!
Here's to better, new, long lasting results!!! Will post more details regarding my phone consult and booking surgery soon...
I had my first augmentation here in town on 6/2015, transaxillary incision, mentor mod profile, 475 filled to 500L/525R. These were 14.2cm in diameter with 4.9cm in projection. He specialized in "natural scarless augmentation" and thought it was absurd that I'd need a lift (one consult I went to recommended a crescent lift on the left side). From the beginning I was unhappy with the shape and size, not the look we discussed. They weren't attractive, just a fuller old me. I have always experienced slight pain in my right breast and at times it appeared a little more round up top. When discussing my concerns my PS said "I don't know what to tell you, buy a new bra" brushed off my concerns and sent me on my way at my 3 month follow up with a $6,000 quote to upsize to a different profile.
12/2015 I had my revision, or implant exchange with a new surgeon. We switched the saline out for silicone. This time through the inframammary fold, Allergan Natrelle, style 45(uhp) 700cc on both sides. These are 13.6cm diameter with 6.4cm projection. There seemed to be a mix up from the beginning as I thought we were doing HP, and left the size up to him depending on what fit best in surgery. He too must have thought he used HP instead of UHP based on his notes in my chart. All was well in the beginning, no where near the pain I experienced the first time around. All of a sudden around 3 months post op I started experiencing pain on the left side. Thought I was over reacting and that it was nerve regeneration. Well as the months passed (March2016-August2016 to be exact) it became more persistent, all while my PS insisted that it wasn't the implants or surgery sending me on my way spending less than 10 minutes at a time with me when I'd go in to see him. The last time I saw him, his comments were less than polite or sympathetic and I left the office crying. His proposal was to open me up, downsize about 200cc and close me back up, nothing more. All for about the cost of implants, bra and maybe anesthesia fees.
Since then I have been on the search for a new PS to help me rectify this mess I've gotten myself into. I found a PS about an hour away who brought some light to the situation, advising that although my nipples weren't pointing down or sagging to my belly button, the reason I was unhappy from the beginning was due to me needing a full lift (lollipop or anchor) to reshape the breast, reposition the areola and downsize the areola.. along with implants of course. Although she was more helpful than my last 2 PS's Her short time in practice scared me and as you can imagine I'm a traumatized from this all wondering who I can trust to just fix my boobs so I can move on with my life! Not to mention all of the costs of all of this. I've been a member on realself for quite some time (under a different user name) and have followed many different ladies on here for quite a while and decided that I was going to search for a dr out of town. I kept coming back to dr. Vath in Denver, CO and all the amazing work he has done. I've read nothing bad about him, the reviews seem legit, his scars are near perfection, the man just seems like he's awesome at his job and he stands by his work..which is something I need at this point considering everyThing I've been through, should there be any complications I need a surgeon who will do anything they can to help me without brushing me off and charging me an arm and a leg!!
Here's to better, new, long lasting results!!! Will post more details regarding my phone consult and booking surgery soon...
UPDATED FROM Lucky.Charms.3
2 months pre
Just a random update...nerves--clinic staff--traveling arrangements--etc....
There's so much I've been wanting to share but haven't really had a 'reason' to add an update and not to mention I've been busy and trying not to obsess. Obsessing has only led to anxiety, stress, worry and time going sooooo slooooowww. But there are a few things I want to share and journal about.. so here it goes. Hopefully I don't bore anyone and please excuse my jumping all over from thought to thought.
I will first start out by saying that I was like 90% sure I was choosing dr vath before my consult, but after securing a date and putting down my $500 deposit I started questioning my decision and my own judgement as I don't want to nake a third mistake!! Stressful to say the least... I will say that Kari (my patient counselor) has been amazing!! From responding to my emails and answering calls and my questions.. she has been great! She's put my nerves at ease and has spent so much more time with me just bringing me back to reality and comforting me than I have gotten from both of my past surgeons. I need this.. and I love this!! All clinics and surgeons need this!! Makes me feel like I'm dealing with my regular primary dr, someone who cares, is supportive and knowledgeable, and isn't feeding me a line of bull!! She spent a decent amount of time with me on the phone last week and never once made me feel rushed or like I was wasting her time! Did I mention I need this?! :)
Secondly, after becoming more aware of my symptoms from discomfort and just being the overly analytical person I am, I believe that my left breast (the one that hurts) is not under the muscle as it's supposed to be. The muscle appears to be over the top of my implant, rather than being stretched over/across the implant it's almost like the implant was shoved up inside and the muscle is shoved up on top of the implant. Which explains the flex animation, being able to feel the implant under my areola, the pulling feeling from my sternum across the top of my breast to my armpit area AND the reason why wearing a bra hurts (added support if the implant pressing up and stretching my muscle more). I hope to god that this can be fixed and that it won't go back up over the implant with this next surgery.!!
Third, along the lines of traveling for surgery I've taken some tips from another RS member and i believe we have found the best (and most cost effective) route for flight, hotel and car rental. Southwest is definitely cheapest airline and Costco definitely has the best deal for car rental.. still trying to figure out the hotel stay :)
-- along this note I have my pre op nov 21 with the nurse and I am currently waiting for a packet in the mail with additional information. We are flying out 2 days before surgery. The next day I will have my pre op and meet dr vath in person and the big day the following day (on a Thursday) I have decided not to leave until Monday as I wanted a follow up before I head home and to allow time for any unforeseen complications, so the following Monday I will see the nurse and we will fly home later that night. I'm hoping Tuesday night and Wednesday before surgery we can explore the area, have some fun alone time and make the best of our "mini vacation" as I'm not too sure I'll be able to be out and about after surgery like I was with my revision, but I suppose we will see when the time comes.
Lastly, size!!! Ohhhh dreaded size.. the 2nd hardest part about this whole ordeal (1st finding the right PS ;-) ) I'm on the fence with size and I know I have a while to think about this but it's driving me nuts!! I keep analyzing the sizing charts and I feel like I'm going from one extreme to the other or not small enough.. ugh! Sucks!! Thankfully my husband has been so supportive this time around. We've talked so much this time and I wish I had his support like this the first time.
Ok that's it for now, I know I'm missing something and I definitely plan to add pictures at some point. I know it doesn't take long to update and add pictures however I wanted to add more detailed pictures to try to better illustrate my concerns/problem areas and sadly don't have time to do that right now, but I promise to soon so it's easier to VISUALLY see what I am trying to explain..i can be more of a visual person at times ;-)
until next time... xoxo :)
I will first start out by saying that I was like 90% sure I was choosing dr vath before my consult, but after securing a date and putting down my $500 deposit I started questioning my decision and my own judgement as I don't want to nake a third mistake!! Stressful to say the least... I will say that Kari (my patient counselor) has been amazing!! From responding to my emails and answering calls and my questions.. she has been great! She's put my nerves at ease and has spent so much more time with me just bringing me back to reality and comforting me than I have gotten from both of my past surgeons. I need this.. and I love this!! All clinics and surgeons need this!! Makes me feel like I'm dealing with my regular primary dr, someone who cares, is supportive and knowledgeable, and isn't feeding me a line of bull!! She spent a decent amount of time with me on the phone last week and never once made me feel rushed or like I was wasting her time! Did I mention I need this?! :)
Secondly, after becoming more aware of my symptoms from discomfort and just being the overly analytical person I am, I believe that my left breast (the one that hurts) is not under the muscle as it's supposed to be. The muscle appears to be over the top of my implant, rather than being stretched over/across the implant it's almost like the implant was shoved up inside and the muscle is shoved up on top of the implant. Which explains the flex animation, being able to feel the implant under my areola, the pulling feeling from my sternum across the top of my breast to my armpit area AND the reason why wearing a bra hurts (added support if the implant pressing up and stretching my muscle more). I hope to god that this can be fixed and that it won't go back up over the implant with this next surgery.!!
Third, along the lines of traveling for surgery I've taken some tips from another RS member and i believe we have found the best (and most cost effective) route for flight, hotel and car rental. Southwest is definitely cheapest airline and Costco definitely has the best deal for car rental.. still trying to figure out the hotel stay :)
-- along this note I have my pre op nov 21 with the nurse and I am currently waiting for a packet in the mail with additional information. We are flying out 2 days before surgery. The next day I will have my pre op and meet dr vath in person and the big day the following day (on a Thursday) I have decided not to leave until Monday as I wanted a follow up before I head home and to allow time for any unforeseen complications, so the following Monday I will see the nurse and we will fly home later that night. I'm hoping Tuesday night and Wednesday before surgery we can explore the area, have some fun alone time and make the best of our "mini vacation" as I'm not too sure I'll be able to be out and about after surgery like I was with my revision, but I suppose we will see when the time comes.
Lastly, size!!! Ohhhh dreaded size.. the 2nd hardest part about this whole ordeal (1st finding the right PS ;-) ) I'm on the fence with size and I know I have a while to think about this but it's driving me nuts!! I keep analyzing the sizing charts and I feel like I'm going from one extreme to the other or not small enough.. ugh! Sucks!! Thankfully my husband has been so supportive this time around. We've talked so much this time and I wish I had his support like this the first time.
Ok that's it for now, I know I'm missing something and I definitely plan to add pictures at some point. I know it doesn't take long to update and add pictures however I wanted to add more detailed pictures to try to better illustrate my concerns/problem areas and sadly don't have time to do that right now, but I promise to soon so it's easier to VISUALLY see what I am trying to explain..i can be more of a visual person at times ;-)
until next time... xoxo :)
Replies (12)
October 10, 2016
I am so glad finally your long waited dream is coming true and your frustration, agony, worries are coming to an end. How exciting it must be for you! In regards to you size and profile remember go for what you really want! Don't allow the opinion of others influence you! Go for the one that your PS feels will look good on you without compromising your well being and health. I will be following your update for sure!
I found some informative tips for revision in this website, check it out, may be you will find them beneficial as well! here is the link:
http://www.smartbeautyguide.com/procedures/breast/breast-revision
Looking forward to seeing your pictures!! Hugzzzz...:)
I found some informative tips for revision in this website, check it out, may be you will find them beneficial as well! here is the link:
http://www.smartbeautyguide.com/procedures/breast/breast-revision
Looking forward to seeing your pictures!! Hugzzzz...:)
October 10, 2016
Thanks for the update. Wishing you the best! I look forward to hearing more.... Talk later. ;-)

October 21, 2016
Thank you for sharing this. I wish you so much luck and happiness with the procedure. Everything I've seen on dr vath is incredible. Seems like you will be in the most skilled of hands xxxxx
October 21, 2016
Thank you so much for the reassurance! I definitely need it from time to time! ;-)
December 5, 2016
Hi Charm, I just looked at the calendar now and realized you must already be in Colorado... checked into your hotel. How's everything going? You must be very excited. I'm also excited for you!
December 31, 2016
Hi 3rd Times! Looking back at your profile to see what size implants you chose, because just as you did, I am now obsessing over size since my MM surgery is scheduled for 2/9!!! In this post you mentioned "sizing charts" - could you tell me where those are so I can obsess some more! Thanks! Sorry to hear you're feeling ill - EmergenC to the rescue, 3x's a day while you have your cold!
January 1, 2017
Hey!! The sizing charts I found were on a website that I googled "simply breast implants" or go to www.simplybreastimplants.com once you're there click on the drop down "breast implants" then "breast implant sizes". You will most likely be getting mentor since dr vath prefers that manufacturer. Round textured and smooth textured are almost the same in dimensions, but just to be sure I'd make sure you know if you are getting smooth or textured to know which to research. Good luck!! :) I hope you are able to figure it all out :). Any idea on size range you are thinking about or profile?
January 1, 2017
Thanks for the info! After my consult, I brought home Mentor sizers in a 325, a 350, and a 375. I'm probably an A cup on the right and a AA on the left now, and would love to be a full C. I've been wearing the 2 different combos inside a thin bralette, then with a C cup bra. Yesterday I tried them with my swim top and am pretty sure I'm going with 325/350. My 2 greatest fears about this at age 61 are capsular contracture and looking obvious! Today is a new year and there's about to be a remodeled me, so I think I'll start my review/journal today! Happy, happy, happy New Year to you - may it be healthy and happy!
January 1, 2017
Oh, I finished too soon! The sizers I have here are Moderate +. Dr. Vath and I talked about using round textured due to my CC Phobia! But after more research, it seems that there's really no proof that textured implants prevent CC when they are placed under the muscles. There may also be an issue of using textured on me for adherence purposes (staying where he puts them) due to my age and the asymmetry I have, to prevent any bottoming out. I'm going to emai Kari tomorrow with these concerns because I think I'd prefer smooth just for the softness factor and having them move more like real breast tissue. But, either way, I will go with Dr. Vath's recommendation because he truly is a pro and I trust his judgment completely!
January 1, 2017
I think he prefers them for the reasons you stated but he won't push them on you, when I asked about them he very easily transitioned to smooth to ensure I was 100% comfortable with my decision. He is very skilled and talented so there is no doubt you can trust his judgement! I look forward to seeing your journal/review :)!!!
UPDATED FROM Lucky.Charms.3
2 months pre
Received my surgical packet in the mail!!
I just wanted to post a quick update.. I received my surgical packet in the mail today and HOLY MOLY! Lots of useful, important information. Nothing compared to the information I received from the last 2 surgeons, that's for sure! Starting to become a pro at this.. :-/ I told my husband when this is all said and done I'll be able to work in this field guiding and hand holding the patients and I should get a job at a cosmetic surgery center... lol... laughing, but serious haha! But in all seriousness my packet is more than helpful, answers any of my little "worry" questions in the back of my mind and then some but at the same time not overload and very honest and straight forward--no surprises! I feel like I'm in good hands :) with everything else going on in the real world right now this is a very reassuring feeling especially considering I am an out of town patient and haven't had the chance to meet the Dr, staff or visit the clinic in person yet I feel a great sense of inner peace. Overall I will say that all of the obsession and panic and ups and downs I felt the last two times is nothing I am experiencing this time around! More so just making sure I'm doing everything right as far as booking flight, hotel and car which is a whole new world to me!
Any who, I feel like this was a long post/update just to share how much I LOVED the detailed, honest and informative packet I received in the mail today :):) but why the heck not share this in case anyone else needs the help or reassurance of my surgery experience! (Oh and I'm still working on the picture deal, I actually forgot until JUST NOW.. I've been dealing with some other things that have taken priority, unfortunately, but I do know photos will help others and my review so please be patient with me as my life settles down and I find time to make a detailed update with these photos. I want the photos and my update to be detailed and not scattered all over with my thoughts all over the place)
All for now!! TaTa!!!
Any who, I feel like this was a long post/update just to share how much I LOVED the detailed, honest and informative packet I received in the mail today :):) but why the heck not share this in case anyone else needs the help or reassurance of my surgery experience! (Oh and I'm still working on the picture deal, I actually forgot until JUST NOW.. I've been dealing with some other things that have taken priority, unfortunately, but I do know photos will help others and my review so please be patient with me as my life settles down and I find time to make a detailed update with these photos. I want the photos and my update to be detailed and not scattered all over with my thoughts all over the place)
All for now!! TaTa!!!
Replies (23)
October 12, 2016
I am very happy everything is going well so far...there is nothing like feeling good about what you are about to do! Finally you can relax and count for your big "the day"! I will be praying for you...hugzzz..:)
October 12, 2016
Any time...:) So I am curious! You will be flying to Colorado for your surgery right? Now do you have to fly there for your pre-op? And how about the post-op visits? Do you have to keep on flying for them too? I am just not sure how it all works for out of state patients!! If you have to keep of making so many trips, you will be broke!! lol
October 14, 2016
Sorry I missed your last comment!!
Consult was over the phone with Dr vath, I sent pictures before hand of my pre boobs, post 1st BA and my current implants. I will have my pre op on 11/21 with the nurse to go over my surgical packet I received, risks, things to stop(ie. meds), what to expect, answer questions all that jazz... then I will be flying to Colorado on Tuesday 12/6. My pre op w dr vath will be the next day Wednesday 12/7 where he will examine me in person, maybe take measurements, photos all that jazz (im just speaking from what they have told me, others reviews and information on their website for out of town patients) then the following day Thursday 12/8 I will have surgery! I will be staying at a hotel near the surgery center and won't be leaving until Monday 12/12 where I will have my first post op before flying out. My Dr has amazing staff from everything I have read and been told from the clinic and that I've experienced. They are pretty much "on call" 24/7 and are there to answer all questions, you can text or email photos at any time. Future post op appointments will be over the phone with use of pictures before hand or Skype is an option also. Just to give you an idea for my husband and myself for a round trip for the week it's only costing us $275 which is a pretty good deal in my opinion. There was no way I was going to a surgeon in my area!!! Lol
Consult was over the phone with Dr vath, I sent pictures before hand of my pre boobs, post 1st BA and my current implants. I will have my pre op on 11/21 with the nurse to go over my surgical packet I received, risks, things to stop(ie. meds), what to expect, answer questions all that jazz... then I will be flying to Colorado on Tuesday 12/6. My pre op w dr vath will be the next day Wednesday 12/7 where he will examine me in person, maybe take measurements, photos all that jazz (im just speaking from what they have told me, others reviews and information on their website for out of town patients) then the following day Thursday 12/8 I will have surgery! I will be staying at a hotel near the surgery center and won't be leaving until Monday 12/12 where I will have my first post op before flying out. My Dr has amazing staff from everything I have read and been told from the clinic and that I've experienced. They are pretty much "on call" 24/7 and are there to answer all questions, you can text or email photos at any time. Future post op appointments will be over the phone with use of pictures before hand or Skype is an option also. Just to give you an idea for my husband and myself for a round trip for the week it's only costing us $275 which is a pretty good deal in my opinion. There was no way I was going to a surgeon in my area!!! Lol
October 14, 2016
The only thing that's hard to stomach about this whole ordeal is the hotel costs.. more than I was expecting to pay or wanted to pay. But I didn't want to risk bad results over cost and all of that. I love the look and shape of all of his surgeries
October 15, 2016
Sorry my friend I got myself into another project so got very busy with researching my options!! I swear I am going crazy!! All these days I went crazy over my boobs now I got this stupid wish/plan in my head I want to do graduate studies ie Masters!! So all day I kept myself occupied with taking to student advisor.... lol
Its good to know you got such a good deal with airfare, its very cheap. Its quite interesting how they do pre op/ post op visit for out of towners!! I don't blame you for wanting a doctor out of town. Its so hard to trust. But I am super excited you found a good doctor.
Hotels can be very costly. When I travel I use Airbnb, way cheaper than traditional hotel. I am very cheap when I travel!!
Now you just have to count your days!! Xoxoxo
October 12, 2016
Yes their surgical package is quite impressive. You'll also be impressed with their pre-op phone appointment (with the nurse), which is usually two weeks before surgery. The nurse (Joyce) allotted one hour and 40 minutes of time with me to go over every single page of that surgical package! I don't believe we use the whole time but it was well over an hour.
October 12, 2016
Yeah that's what kari told me!! I'm looking forward to that appointment for sure ;) mine is the Monday or Tuesday before thanksgiving, I was going to mention that and I forgot!!
October 15, 2016
Hi, I just sent you another private message regarding hotels…. I've noticed notifications have been a little slow at this website lately, so I thought I'd let you know here. Hope all is going well. Talk later.
October 16, 2016
Thanks for shooting me a message on here as well, I use my phone.. on the internet not an app, and never access on a computer, I'm not sure if something has changed with This website or what but things are definitely different and I'm missing things left and right!! Lol
October 16, 2016
This website has been having a lot of problems lately. I've noticed I don't get notifications for almost 48 hours. A few nights ago people were unable to post pictures.
October 16, 2016
Yeah that happens quite frequently over the last couple of years lol, sometimes it gets really bad.
So I'm just wondering, your implants are over the muscle right? Mine are under, but given the discomfort I'm having with my muscle on the left side and what's happened I'm almost wondering if maybe I should switch to over and textured :-/ the nurse should be able to answer this for me right? I worry with being an out of town patient and not actually seeing Dr vath in person (pictures someTimes just don't to justice!) that he won't know what implant size, profile and surface we need in time :-/ I'm over worrying I know!
So I'm just wondering, your implants are over the muscle right? Mine are under, but given the discomfort I'm having with my muscle on the left side and what's happened I'm almost wondering if maybe I should switch to over and textured :-/ the nurse should be able to answer this for me right? I worry with being an out of town patient and not actually seeing Dr vath in person (pictures someTimes just don't to justice!) that he won't know what implant size, profile and surface we need in time :-/ I'm over worrying I know!
October 16, 2016
Interesting. I've been a member here for five years, but only since my recent surgery have I been hanging out more frequently. Speaking of which I just sent you another private message.
As for your question regarding going over the muscle, I'd be inclined to encourage anyone to stay over the muscle if this was their first surgery... providing they understand the limitations.
since you already have them under the musclemy understanding is that once the implants have been under the muscle reversing it is a little complicated. It will add to the overall trauma of the surgery especially if they're doing a capsulotomy within the pocket and now then also dissecting the muscle to separate it from the breast tissue. You want to try to limit the trauma… especially given you're also doing a breast lift. i've also heard having the implants under the muscle may help protect your Areolas during the lift by providing extra support and cushioning between the implants and your Areolas.
As for your question regarding going over the muscle, I'd be inclined to encourage anyone to stay over the muscle if this was their first surgery... providing they understand the limitations.
since you already have them under the musclemy understanding is that once the implants have been under the muscle reversing it is a little complicated. It will add to the overall trauma of the surgery especially if they're doing a capsulotomy within the pocket and now then also dissecting the muscle to separate it from the breast tissue. You want to try to limit the trauma… especially given you're also doing a breast lift. i've also heard having the implants under the muscle may help protect your Areolas during the lift by providing extra support and cushioning between the implants and your Areolas.
October 16, 2016
My last message submitted before I meant to. To address your other concern: I was told they have all of different types, sizes, styles, textures... of implants in stock at their surgery center. Keep in mind they have a lot of patients flying in from out of town... that see him 24 hours before the surgery, so they know they have to be ready and prepared. He will only need one in person appointment (the day ot two before surgery) to determine what type and size implants you need.
Has Dr Vath given you any opinions on what may be causing your pain? And had he suggested a particular size that might help with resolving the pain? Under most circumstances he's usually hesitant to suggest a size his patients. However given your situation (with the pain), I would think he'd be willing to make a suggestion.
Initially he was very hesitant to suggest to size to me. However, it was during my exam and after feeling my breasts... that he knew exactly what size I should go with.
Has Dr Vath given you any opinions on what may be causing your pain? And had he suggested a particular size that might help with resolving the pain? Under most circumstances he's usually hesitant to suggest a size his patients. However given your situation (with the pain), I would think he'd be willing to make a suggestion.
Initially he was very hesitant to suggest to size to me. However, it was during my exam and after feeling my breasts... that he knew exactly what size I should go with.
October 16, 2016
No he was very blunt in saying that he won't be able to tell what is causing my pains but Thinks downsizing w the lift in particular will help. No recommendations in size other then suggesting a low profile and I immediately let him know that wasn't an option for me as I'm having a hard enough time going to mod plus. The projection is lower w mentor and silicone than saline
October 16, 2016
Dangit I posted before I was ready--I fear in going HP won't be small enough so I definitely will be going w mod plus unless he thinks HP will work but I'd rather keep the width than sacrifice the over result. And part of me knows that he won't be able to make much of a recommendation until he sees me in person so I'm trying not to worry too much. I have to remember that I will be much happier with a smaller and prettier shaped breast than I will be with a overly large breast that I can't hide or make smaller!
October 16, 2016
Hello charm: it's such a difficult thing to do to decide what size or projection to go for. If the projection is high the width is narrower and vise versa! Why can't we have both!! You know I have been experiencing strange pain after wearing a snug bra too. I feel like as if though the muscles inside my boobs are getting torn apart. Its not always or that bad but I feel it once I wear anything snug. I feel better when I don't wear any bras. My nipples also get very tender after wearing a bra. Is it the kind of pain you were having too? I am curious to know why some of us are having strange pain and if its permanent. If its anything to do with size why am I having it because my implants are smaller! If you get any answer please let me know!! I wonder if nipples have anything to do with it and nipple reduction will help!! Also I was thinking if you do get larger implants and you like to do work out they will get in the way! I was running with my tiny boobs (B cup may be C ) and wearing a max support sport bra and I could still feel my boobs moving, and causing me feel that pain, so I can't imagine what will larger implants do. Oh boy its so hard!! I will be following you!!
October 17, 2016
The pain is so hard to explain. Sometimes an achy pain, sometimes under my areola it feels like I have something rubbing underneath and pulling sort of, at times I have a tight ribberband feeling in my fold, but lots of times I have this pulling pain from my cleavage across the top of my boob to my armpit area.. you can see a puffy mark across the top of my boob when I flex it's like a perfect line.. I'm not sure what the hell it is. But my primary dr wants to do an MRI which I have to schedule it Monday. I'm definitely not going larger as I have 700 UHP implants currently, I'd be looking more towards 500 mp for my width. I thought about HP and if I wanted the width to be attractive without a gap it would have to be 550/600 hp which offers far less projection than the 700uhp allergen natrelle I have but seems like it's not worth it and I may still have complications which I want to avoid so the 500 mp (or possible 475 mp) seems to be the safest route in my opinion. I'd rather have them project less than end up having to need a 4th surgery to remove them and have nothing because I got greedy and wanted more lol.
October 17, 2016
Oh wow, I am beginning to feel like my pain is almost like yours, its very hard to explain and yet its there. I also have this unexplained pain around my cleavage area, as if though my muscles are getting ripped apart. I hope your's get better after the exchange, I will certainly follow you because I may have the same problems as yours. But since you are going to have the current implants removed do you still need a MRI? Or may be its better to be safe and have it checked anyway. Its too bad the PS can not definitely tell you what causing you to have the pain. I am sure it's related to your previous BA surgeries. It would be kind of nice if they could pin point the problems and solve the issue. I am getting worried too, I will ask my ps when I go for my pre-op in January to find out why I am also having the pain. I wonder if its nerve related.
I totally agree with you with your decision of not getting larger implants which may contribute to future problems. I think 500 would give you a good shape and also it would be manageable. 700 are definitely larger implants, my friends had them and they look nice on her but they are more noticeable. I think if I went for 700 I would be wearing loose clothes to hide them!! lolol....I am still not used to having larger breasts!!
You are making the right and rational decision I think. One PS here advised a lady that even if you have MP plus implants without lesser projection, you can always accentuate your cleavage by wearing a push up bra during the time when you need it. I think it's a great advise, I would rather use a bra than having to go through more complications such as sagging or bottoming out. Even when you think about it, natural breasts do not project high without wearing a push up bra!! So many things to think about!
I totally agree with you with your decision of not getting larger implants which may contribute to future problems. I think 500 would give you a good shape and also it would be manageable. 700 are definitely larger implants, my friends had them and they look nice on her but they are more noticeable. I think if I went for 700 I would be wearing loose clothes to hide them!! lolol....I am still not used to having larger breasts!!
You are making the right and rational decision I think. One PS here advised a lady that even if you have MP plus implants without lesser projection, you can always accentuate your cleavage by wearing a push up bra during the time when you need it. I think it's a great advise, I would rather use a bra than having to go through more complications such as sagging or bottoming out. Even when you think about it, natural breasts do not project high without wearing a push up bra!! So many things to think about!
October 22, 2016
Thank you for sharing! I am still debating on my size/profile...lol The problem is I don't know what's my BWD is, I am too shy to ask my doctor because I have already emailed him so many times!! I am thinking I have to go for Natrelle 20, 550 HP in order for me to get side boob and projection....I am guessing ( from my own measurement) my bwd is between 14-15...lol Unless he tells me my body is messed up to get that size!
October 22, 2016
You seem much smaller than I am.. When I measured my BWD I was about 14/14.5 or so. When I was measured at a consult with my current implants in, which are 13.5 or 13.6 in diameter.. she measured me at 15. I wear a 34 bra band but I have pretty broad shoulders too. I'm guessing your BWD is smaller than 14/15 but maybe your pics are deceiving, lol! I think you should ask! Don't feel shy or silly for asking :)
October 22, 2016
Right now I have Natrelle 68 mod profile saline, one is 330 and 360 which are filled to their max volume. The diameter of my right implant, (360 cc) is 12.7 cm, its sitting perfectly closer to my rib cage, the left implant is 12.3 cm. I have a huge gap between my two boobs. No cleavage...:( ...So I think I will need wider implants like natrelle HP 550, 13.5 cm width to fill the gap.
My measured band size is 32 but I wear 34 because I like it loose! I think I just need to shoot an e-mail to my new doctor!!
I have asked him so many stupid questions I feel like an idiot if I ask him more!! I can ask my hubby to measure me by following the instruction but I don't think he will know how!! lol
My measured band size is 32 but I wear 34 because I like it loose! I think I just need to shoot an e-mail to my new doctor!!
I have asked him so many stupid questions I feel like an idiot if I ask him more!! I can ask my hubby to measure me by following the instruction but I don't think he will know how!! lol
October 22, 2016
That sounds about right, but of course I'm no dang dr hahaha. I misunderstood thinking you wanted to go up to a 14/15cm diameter implant. Generally speaking they say that you want your implant to be right at or just below the width of your BWD.
Also, just a thought to consider..you may have that gap because of how your one implant is sitting high and not down low where it should be.??
Also, just a thought to consider..you may have that gap because of how your one implant is sitting high and not down low where it should be.??
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I'm REALLY hoping that dr vath can relieve this pain. I'm just REALLY torn on what size to get and I keep going back and forth. Thank goodness I have time to think of that, and apparently he has every size and profile on hand so that's good!!
Thanks for reaching out and thinking of me :) I feel special ;) ;)
Now I know how you have to lay down inside a MRI to have your boob checked!! I am telling you they will have to sedate me before sticking me inside that machine!! lololol You are a brave lady for sure!! High five to you for putting up with all that commotion!!
Its good know you will not have to "re-do"!! Hope this is the last time you have to go inside that machine!! Yes waiting sure sucks, its like some one is dangling a yummy candy in front of you and you can't have it!! I am sure the result will come out good or at least they will be able to shed some lights why you have pain. I will be praying for you and keep me posted what your doctor tells you. Just stay positive and don't think anything bad!! hugzz!!
The fact is there's so much there for them to analyze with these MRIs… it's easy for them to ignore and/or miss something especially if they're not asked to focus on it. For example it's possible there could be calcifications around your implants pressing on a nerve or it could be a stretched muscle causing the pain. However, since it's not unusual to have calcifications or muscles stretched around implants they may not discuss it in your MRI report. Not to mention some radiologist tend to be very vague and not go into detail about what they see which doesn't help you resolve what could possibly be causing your pain. Just a thought.
Ocean: thank you for your support and "knock on the noggen" I do need to remain positive. I just cannot stomach the fact that after this surgery my boobs will be worth nearly a whopping $24,000 and to think that the pain might not be gone because I know there are no guarantees so I'm taking a gamble with this, although I hope it is gone! What I could have done with all that money... >< I try not to think of that though!
So I don't know if it's because I've already got surgery booked and it's in about a month but I have had a few boobie "nightmares" not TOO terrible, but I think I have them when my boob is hurting the most so my subconscious is running wild or something... do you ever have any boob dreams.. like borderline scary or where weird things are wrong w them or anything like that???