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Frankel Let USC students operate on my eyes remove my upper jaw during a NOSE surgery

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I went to Dr. Frankel for a repair of the bossae...

girltown
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I went to Dr. Frankel for a repair of the bossae and he took off 6 mm off the front of my nose, removed my columella and cut off my footplates. All which we never discussed. He gave me a pointy tip when I asked for a larger boxy one. Even his morphs he didn't remove my columella. Very confusing and depressing.

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Andrew S. Frankel, MD

Andrew S. Frankel, MD

Board Certified Facial Plastic Surgeon

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September 19, 2016
That's horrible. I'm so sorry this happened. Was this your first revision? At least if you are at one year, you can look to getting it fixed. Will he refund you.
September 19, 2016
thank you. It was my first revision. I'm not sure the issues can be fixed with respect to the footplates. it's hard to say what he will or won't do, since he won't actually respond to any question.
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September 19, 2016
I will never understand why a surgeon feels the need to remove a woman's columella completely . It's the most feminine part of a female nose ! I even like columella show on men , it's sexy . Tragic!
September 19, 2016
totally. and it's not gone in the morphs. a sad nightmare.
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September 19, 2016
Fingers crossed that better days are coming! Sounds like you basically got the opposite of what you asked for--and then some! So disappointing and devastating. Hang in there!
September 20, 2016
I'm so sorry you are going through this. The same thing happened to me and I'm now having to undergo a rib graft revision.
September 20, 2016
omg. i'm so sorry. that's i guess what I will have to do as well. do you have any doctors you are looking at yet?
September 20, 2016
I do. At the moment I'm terrified and don't want to write anything until it's over
May 19, 2017
Ha
May 19, 2017
Damagecontrol, have you had surgery yet? So sorry for your pain. Was it Frankel who botched you?
September 20, 2016
Also what exactly are the footplates?
September 20, 2016
they are the piece of the columella that comes down the middle and swings out to form a little triangle at the bottom so your nostrils don't look jacked.
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September 21, 2016
Good explanation Girltown :-D
September 21, 2016
thank you dollfaze!
UPDATED FROM girltown
1 year post

Update---meeting with other doctors

girltown
So, I did meet with a few doctors to see if this is all in my mind and most of the doctors cannot believe doctor Frankel took off the footplates. They say, unlike Dr. Frankel, that no doctors do that. However, this is why my nose is kind of floating off my face and not attached anywhere. The nose is badly deviated to the side. The nostrils are crooked and it swings off to the left badly. I didn't realize these things, only the missing columella and supratip break that Frankel said he deliberately tried to remove despite me only wanting the bossae covered. I only found one doctor that thinks my case can be improved or even done at all. It is very depressing and hard right now, but, I have hope somehow that this can be improved after looking at some of the cases on here. Lots of offices have told me they do rib, but when I get there, they tell me they don't. So, it's been disappointing. I'm glad other doctors are telling me how badly retracted my nose is because Dr. Frankel is like, it's not retracted and I didn't remove anything. I want to put up photos and let you see, but only if I can take them down, which I don't know if I can. I do realize we all have styles of noses we like and Dr. F gave me his style, despite me asking for something exactly like my own nose with just the bossae covered. I want to help people not get a surgery if it looks okay. I was very pretty and now I'm not, which is so scary. Most of the doctors tell me Dr. Frankel should not have touched my nose, but I wanted the bossae covered and discussed it with him and made sure we were on the same page. I felt I did everything right. Telling him, if you cannot do it, please don't. He promised not to take anything off. My columella now sits in a ball in between my nostrils which I found out yesterday from Rady Rahban. However, it's not so easy to just pull them down and re-suture them to something. They are grow together at some point and that is what I am dealing with and going to doctors to undo.

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September 23, 2016
I'm so sorry you are going through this!
September 23, 2016
thank you. i've met with all these doctors that say it cannot be done. very scary. i appreciate your support.
September 23, 2016
I'm sorry for what you're going through. It sounds like you were very clear in your communication about what you wanted and did your best to make sure you and the surgeon were on the same page. I think when some surgeons say a case can't be improved, what they really should say (if they're being honest) is that *they* can't improve it. They shouldn't be speaking for all other surgeons given how greatly skill sets and experience vary. Keep searching and going on consults. You've already found a doctor who can make improvements, so there will be others as well. Take your time and find a few choices to consider. Regarding taking down photos, a Community Manager should be able to help you with that - I've seen other reviews where they have the pictures removed after posting them.
September 27, 2016
thank you the_plot_thickens. i found a few surgeons that were very hopeful about it all, so i'm in a better mood. :)
September 27, 2016
Hi girltown
Im looking at real revision rhinoplasty surgeons and just am so hesitant as per ehich one is skilled for real
September 27, 2016
@moulinrouge yes! i know. it's so hard. i'll share with you who i've met with if you like.
November 15, 2016
Would you mind sharing with me as well, girltown?
November 15, 2016
sure. do you want to know who i met with? i'll do it to yourinbox
November 15, 2016
Yes, if you don't mind please!
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December 18, 2016
its is okay to post names of doctors here, it's what the website is about.
September 24, 2016
I'm so, so sorry you are so disappointed with your result. I have my surgery with Dr. Frankel and am very clear with what I want. I hope this will work to my advantage, but with any doctor there are happy and unhappy patients. I'll keep everyone posted.
September 24, 2016
good luck to you!! sincerely. i hope it goes well.
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September 27, 2016
Sorry about your disappointment. Yes you will be able to remove the pictures if you want to later. I did that many times.
September 27, 2016
thanks so much, zooster. i found out how today, but not before the staff took down a huge amount of my comments that a photo was attached to.
September 27, 2016
Go and see a lawyer!
March 18, 2017
thank you DGMTS, i think you might know due to the unconstitutional MICRA caps, no lawyer will take these cases. it's extremely hard to go against these doctors.
UPDATED FROM girltown
1 year post

He offered to fix it but told me my nose was short because of my age

girltown
Dr. Frankel met with me and told me my nose is over-shortened because of age. Literally, he said this. Instead of admitting he shortened it over 6 mm, he told me that he never speaks in millimeters. When I pointed out his whole surgical report is speaking in millimeters, he got upset and told me he regrets ever doing it and tried very hard to get rid of the columella and supratip. When I asked why he would do something that I never asked for, that when I asked for a larger, fuller nose, he said he was up all weekend thinking about it. Trust me, so am I.

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November 8, 2016
Wow....It really pisses me off when doctors don't take the blame for their obvious mistakes and try to blame the patient. He said he was up all weekend thinking about it?? Really?? Wow. Just wow. And he regrets ever doing it? If he knew he couldn't do it, he shouldn't have touched your nose in the first place -_-
November 8, 2016
I know. It really sucks!
November 12, 2016
Wow, I have never heard of a doctor on saying he regrets doing it and he was up all weekend thinking about it. That's really serious. I'm so sorry this happened to you and I pray you find peace and a resolution concerning this whole fiasco
November 12, 2016
*on here
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December 2, 2016
Umm..a nose doesn't shorten with age -_- And just wow. I'm so sorry.
March 27, 2018
Hey, hope you are well. Been reading your thread and wanted to know if you managed to get/plan a revision?
March 27, 2018
Annie check out YouTube for her updates. Ion did her surgery and she looks amazing!!!!
March 27, 2018
can you pls give me the link? Thanks a lot
March 27, 2018
I don't have the link, just go to You Tube and type in Girltown and it should come up :) Let me know if you can't find it.