I had a consult about a year ago and when I showed the DR my inspiration photos, he said it was not preferred because it involved cutting the muscle (dual plane) but since then i have read good things about dual plane implants used when going big, which id like to do? but also trust his advice wholly. wondering, what are the disadvantages or long run cons of choosing dual plane?
Answer: What are the cons of dual plane implants? There are essentially two choices for breast implant placement: sub-glandular (under the breast tissue and in front of the chest muscle – the pectoralis muscle) or sub-muscular (under or partially under the chest muscle). The best location depends on many factors including: tissue thickness, weight, desired outcome, and individual anatomy. Each position has advantages and disadvantages: Subglandular implant benefits: • A shorter recovery time. • Less discomfort initially. • No distortion of the breast when the pectoralis muscle flexes. • Mild preoperative sagging can be improved, especially if no breast lifting procedure is performed. • Easier surgical procedure. • Larger implants can be placed. Subglandular implant disadvantages: • The implant may be more visible. • More visible rippling, especially in patients with a small amount of natural breast tissue. • Generally, saline implants do not produce a good result in front of the muscle. • Higher incidence of capsular contraction. • “Bottoming out” in some patients. • Some radiologists have more problems reading a mammogram with an implant in front of the muscle. Submuscular implant benefits: • Usually results in a better appearance for naturally small breasted women • Less tendency for seeing ripples of the implant. • A more natural feel to the breast especially in slender women who don’t have much of their own breast tissue. • Less interference with mammograms, although most radiologists take additional views no matter where the implants are placed. • Lower rate of capsular contraction. • Less of a chance of “bottoming out” where the implant bulges at the lower aspect of the breast and the nipple and areolas tend to appear excessively elevated. Submuscular implant disadvantages: • Recovery usually takes a little longer and is more uncomfortable initially. • There may be an “animation deformity”, which is a temporary distortion of the breasts when the pectoralis muscle is flexed. Body builders and weight lifters generally prefer implants in front of the muscle. • It is harder to achieve cleavage in women who have widely spaced breasts. • The implants often ride higher on the chest. Actually, most patients who have breast augmentations today have breast implants placed in a combination or “dual plane” position. This approach has the same benefits and disadvantages of a total “submuscular implant”, but with a lesser tendency to ride high on the chest wall. The disadvantage as compared to a total “submuscular implant” is a higher tendency for bottoming out. The ideal placement in any particular patient depends on their particular anatomy and understanding of the pros and cons of each approach and desired outcome.. Keep in mind, that following the advice from a surgeon on this or any other website who proposes to tell you what to do based on two dimensional photos without examining you, physically feeling the tissue, assessing your desired outcome, taking a full medical history, and discussing the pros and cons of each operative procedure may not be in your best interest. I would suggest you find a plastic surgeon certified by the American Board of Plastic Surgery and ideally a member of the American Society for Aesthetic Plastic Surgery (ASAPS) that you trust and are comfortable with. You should discuss your concerns with that surgeon in person. Robert Singer, MD FACS La Jolla, California
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Answer: What are the cons of dual plane implants? There are essentially two choices for breast implant placement: sub-glandular (under the breast tissue and in front of the chest muscle – the pectoralis muscle) or sub-muscular (under or partially under the chest muscle). The best location depends on many factors including: tissue thickness, weight, desired outcome, and individual anatomy. Each position has advantages and disadvantages: Subglandular implant benefits: • A shorter recovery time. • Less discomfort initially. • No distortion of the breast when the pectoralis muscle flexes. • Mild preoperative sagging can be improved, especially if no breast lifting procedure is performed. • Easier surgical procedure. • Larger implants can be placed. Subglandular implant disadvantages: • The implant may be more visible. • More visible rippling, especially in patients with a small amount of natural breast tissue. • Generally, saline implants do not produce a good result in front of the muscle. • Higher incidence of capsular contraction. • “Bottoming out” in some patients. • Some radiologists have more problems reading a mammogram with an implant in front of the muscle. Submuscular implant benefits: • Usually results in a better appearance for naturally small breasted women • Less tendency for seeing ripples of the implant. • A more natural feel to the breast especially in slender women who don’t have much of their own breast tissue. • Less interference with mammograms, although most radiologists take additional views no matter where the implants are placed. • Lower rate of capsular contraction. • Less of a chance of “bottoming out” where the implant bulges at the lower aspect of the breast and the nipple and areolas tend to appear excessively elevated. Submuscular implant disadvantages: • Recovery usually takes a little longer and is more uncomfortable initially. • There may be an “animation deformity”, which is a temporary distortion of the breasts when the pectoralis muscle is flexed. Body builders and weight lifters generally prefer implants in front of the muscle. • It is harder to achieve cleavage in women who have widely spaced breasts. • The implants often ride higher on the chest. Actually, most patients who have breast augmentations today have breast implants placed in a combination or “dual plane” position. This approach has the same benefits and disadvantages of a total “submuscular implant”, but with a lesser tendency to ride high on the chest wall. The disadvantage as compared to a total “submuscular implant” is a higher tendency for bottoming out. The ideal placement in any particular patient depends on their particular anatomy and understanding of the pros and cons of each approach and desired outcome.. Keep in mind, that following the advice from a surgeon on this or any other website who proposes to tell you what to do based on two dimensional photos without examining you, physically feeling the tissue, assessing your desired outcome, taking a full medical history, and discussing the pros and cons of each operative procedure may not be in your best interest. I would suggest you find a plastic surgeon certified by the American Board of Plastic Surgery and ideally a member of the American Society for Aesthetic Plastic Surgery (ASAPS) that you trust and are comfortable with. You should discuss your concerns with that surgeon in person. Robert Singer, MD FACS La Jolla, California
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Answer: Dual plane breast augmentation Some surgeons use the dual plane technique in an effort to avoid a breast lift. Dual plane is effective in mild (grade I) ptosis but not in more severe cases (grade II or III) where a lift or mastopexy is necessary.
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Answer: Dual plane breast augmentation Some surgeons use the dual plane technique in an effort to avoid a breast lift. Dual plane is effective in mild (grade I) ptosis but not in more severe cases (grade II or III) where a lift or mastopexy is necessary.
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October 17, 2020
Answer: None All of my 7000 breast augmentation patients have had dual plane with great results and no problems. After I measure and discuss goals with my patients, we then look at pictures of women (my patients) with similar measurements with different size and style breast implants. They also get to see what they would look like when the breasts have fully dropped and fluffed and in clothes. You get to see actual results and the surgeon's experience and not a virtual idea of what can be achieved. Women tell me that this process is very helpful in determining what size and style breast implant is right for them. You should also be aware that results of surgery can change in the future with significant weight change and/or stretching of skin from the milk of pregnancy. Dr. Ted Eisenberg, Board Certified Plastic Surgeon and Author. RealSelf Distinguished Hall of Fame
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October 17, 2020
Answer: None All of my 7000 breast augmentation patients have had dual plane with great results and no problems. After I measure and discuss goals with my patients, we then look at pictures of women (my patients) with similar measurements with different size and style breast implants. They also get to see what they would look like when the breasts have fully dropped and fluffed and in clothes. You get to see actual results and the surgeon's experience and not a virtual idea of what can be achieved. Women tell me that this process is very helpful in determining what size and style breast implant is right for them. You should also be aware that results of surgery can change in the future with significant weight change and/or stretching of skin from the milk of pregnancy. Dr. Ted Eisenberg, Board Certified Plastic Surgeon and Author. RealSelf Distinguished Hall of Fame
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October 16, 2020
Answer: Dual plane vs split muscle for breast implant placement Your surgeon was right about one thing, which is that dual plane involves cutting the attachment of the pectoral muscle, which often leads to animation deformity. An alternative that preserves muscle coverage over the upper part of the implant is the split muscle method.
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October 16, 2020
Answer: Dual plane vs split muscle for breast implant placement Your surgeon was right about one thing, which is that dual plane involves cutting the attachment of the pectoral muscle, which often leads to animation deformity. An alternative that preserves muscle coverage over the upper part of the implant is the split muscle method.
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October 14, 2020
Answer: What are the cons of dual plane implants? Hello, thank you for your question. Dual plane refers to breast implant positioning in the sub muscular ( pectoralis major) positioned superiorly and the sub glandular position inferiorly. This positioning allows for more complete coverage of the breast implants leading to generally more natural feel/look of the implants in the long-term. This position will also decrease the potential for rippling and/or palpability of the implants (which may increase with time, weight loss, and/or post-pregnancy changes). The submuscular positioning also tends to interfere with mammography less so than in the sub glandular position. The incidence of breast implant encapsulation (capsular contraction) is also decreased with implants placed in the sub muscular position. However, the sub muscular (dual plane) breast implant positioning does have the potential downside of animation deformity.
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October 14, 2020
Answer: What are the cons of dual plane implants? Hello, thank you for your question. Dual plane refers to breast implant positioning in the sub muscular ( pectoralis major) positioned superiorly and the sub glandular position inferiorly. This positioning allows for more complete coverage of the breast implants leading to generally more natural feel/look of the implants in the long-term. This position will also decrease the potential for rippling and/or palpability of the implants (which may increase with time, weight loss, and/or post-pregnancy changes). The submuscular positioning also tends to interfere with mammography less so than in the sub glandular position. The incidence of breast implant encapsulation (capsular contraction) is also decreased with implants placed in the sub muscular position. However, the sub muscular (dual plane) breast implant positioning does have the potential downside of animation deformity.
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October 13, 2020
Answer: Implant Position First, 'dual plane' is the same as 'sub-pectoral' or 'partial sub-muscular'. Although there are a few surgeons who claim to do a complete submuscular placement (which requires the painful surgical process of elevating pec minor, serratus, and six pack muscle off of your ribs), good data shows that it does not confer an advantage to dual plane. All other alternatives are over the pec major muscle, either subfascial or subglandular. Whether dual plane or over the muscle, they both have complications, with the exception of the risk being greater when placed over the muscle: rippling, implant visibility, capsular contracture, tissue atrophy, dropout, etc. The only downside to dual plane is dynamic movement of the implant with muscular contraction, a minor to non-existent issue in women who get properly sized implants.
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October 13, 2020
Answer: Implant Position First, 'dual plane' is the same as 'sub-pectoral' or 'partial sub-muscular'. Although there are a few surgeons who claim to do a complete submuscular placement (which requires the painful surgical process of elevating pec minor, serratus, and six pack muscle off of your ribs), good data shows that it does not confer an advantage to dual plane. All other alternatives are over the pec major muscle, either subfascial or subglandular. Whether dual plane or over the muscle, they both have complications, with the exception of the risk being greater when placed over the muscle: rippling, implant visibility, capsular contracture, tissue atrophy, dropout, etc. The only downside to dual plane is dynamic movement of the implant with muscular contraction, a minor to non-existent issue in women who get properly sized implants.
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