My acne scars are old and I've tried a lot for them (a TON of microneedling with PRP but the results plateaued, PicoSure and Pixel lasers, and a single round of filler in them which was great when I was swollen but wore off quickly). Would I benefit from subcision for my scars? Can I do subcision with TCA cross for better results? Or is subcision with more filler put in better?
Answer: Acne Scar-- Subcision; Bellafill; Fraxel/Halo/Co2; TCA cross; Fractora; emeragecosmetics enlighten/aerify/cosmelan, MTS roller yes subcision fillers, deep microneedling RF And lasers should be performed regularly. at home peels like cosmelan and enlighten will also help you. MTS roller weekly. see link. at home peels like cosmelan, enlighten and aerify along with dermarolling (MTS roller with anteage MD ampules weekly) should be started now if you have post inflammatory hyperpigmentation/melasma/discoloration that needs cosmelan or enlighten peels at home which we can do virtually and send to your home along with aerify peels regularly, vivatia foam, restorsea 10x, faith essence serum, and cosmelan 2 cream. Acne scar treatment needs a combination approach for improvement. For the best results, one should target the acne scar type. As everyone has a unique pattern of acne scarring, the best solution is a tailored one. Typically you need fillers like bellafill and sculptra for atrophic indented type scars with or without subcision. Subcision for depressed tethered scars. Vascular lasers like yellow laser, aerolase, excel V or IPL for redness or thick scars. And lasers such as fraxel, erbium, co2 or fractional radiofrequency like venus viva, skinfinity, intensif or fractora microneedling RF for textural issues and superficial scarring. Deep ice pick scars and narrow box car scars are best treated with TCA CROSS and punch excision. All lasers are combined with microneedling and PRP to get even better results and improve healing times. The majority of patients will have a collection of different scar types, and hence a tailored treatment plan is needed by an expert physician. It is never about the laser or product that gives the results, its about the expert behind the equipment that gets you the outcome. Scars cannot be cured and will need life-long treatments to maintain and build on the results. For those at high risk for hyperpigmentation (darker skin types or asian or hispanic or mixed ethnicities) we already pre-treat the skin with cosmelan or enlighten lightening peels to prevent complications from energy-based or chemical-based treatments. Best, Dr. Emer.
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Answer: Acne Scar-- Subcision; Bellafill; Fraxel/Halo/Co2; TCA cross; Fractora; emeragecosmetics enlighten/aerify/cosmelan, MTS roller yes subcision fillers, deep microneedling RF And lasers should be performed regularly. at home peels like cosmelan and enlighten will also help you. MTS roller weekly. see link. at home peels like cosmelan, enlighten and aerify along with dermarolling (MTS roller with anteage MD ampules weekly) should be started now if you have post inflammatory hyperpigmentation/melasma/discoloration that needs cosmelan or enlighten peels at home which we can do virtually and send to your home along with aerify peels regularly, vivatia foam, restorsea 10x, faith essence serum, and cosmelan 2 cream. Acne scar treatment needs a combination approach for improvement. For the best results, one should target the acne scar type. As everyone has a unique pattern of acne scarring, the best solution is a tailored one. Typically you need fillers like bellafill and sculptra for atrophic indented type scars with or without subcision. Subcision for depressed tethered scars. Vascular lasers like yellow laser, aerolase, excel V or IPL for redness or thick scars. And lasers such as fraxel, erbium, co2 or fractional radiofrequency like venus viva, skinfinity, intensif or fractora microneedling RF for textural issues and superficial scarring. Deep ice pick scars and narrow box car scars are best treated with TCA CROSS and punch excision. All lasers are combined with microneedling and PRP to get even better results and improve healing times. The majority of patients will have a collection of different scar types, and hence a tailored treatment plan is needed by an expert physician. It is never about the laser or product that gives the results, its about the expert behind the equipment that gets you the outcome. Scars cannot be cured and will need life-long treatments to maintain and build on the results. For those at high risk for hyperpigmentation (darker skin types or asian or hispanic or mixed ethnicities) we already pre-treat the skin with cosmelan or enlighten lightening peels to prevent complications from energy-based or chemical-based treatments. Best, Dr. Emer.
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October 20, 2020
Answer: Treating my rolling acne scars, Steven F. Weiner, MD Treating your scars can be done with RFM - prefer the Genius. I would most likely do subcision prior to release any tethering and instill some lidocaine. I would take 2-3 to get satisfactory results. These are deeper scars and won't respond to superficial treatments such as lasers or plain microneedling.
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October 20, 2020
Answer: Treating my rolling acne scars, Steven F. Weiner, MD Treating your scars can be done with RFM - prefer the Genius. I would most likely do subcision prior to release any tethering and instill some lidocaine. I would take 2-3 to get satisfactory results. These are deeper scars and won't respond to superficial treatments such as lasers or plain microneedling.
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September 22, 2020
Answer: Wound I benefit from subcision for my acne scars? It’s hard to say for sure from the limited photos but it looks like you would most likely benefit from subcision. I would need to see better photos or see you in person to give a definite recommendation. I usually prefer to do a blunt subcision using a cannula rather than a sharp needle. Downtime is low and recovery is quick. Usually I will also inject some filler into the area after subcision. See an acne scarring expert. Regards, Dr. Ort
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September 22, 2020
Answer: Wound I benefit from subcision for my acne scars? It’s hard to say for sure from the limited photos but it looks like you would most likely benefit from subcision. I would need to see better photos or see you in person to give a definite recommendation. I usually prefer to do a blunt subcision using a cannula rather than a sharp needle. Downtime is low and recovery is quick. Usually I will also inject some filler into the area after subcision. See an acne scarring expert. Regards, Dr. Ort
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September 22, 2020
Answer: Acne scar subcision Acne scars are treated differently depending on their appearance and structure. Deep wide scars can be released and filled in with subcision and a filler such as Bellafill which is specifically designed for divets and depressions left by acne. The very thin or deep ice-pick scars are best treated by excising them completely. I especially like a combination of a chemical peel for the hyperpigmentation and acne control, microneedling with PRP for texture and collagen building, and PIXEL fractionated laser or RF to resurface and build even more collagen. I would use the subcision with Bellafill for the individual deeper scars. Not everyone is a candidate for all the treatment options however as certain skin types can get worse from certain treatments. For the best treatment options, it is important to visit an expert for an in-person examination. Hope this helps! Johnson C. Lee, MD Board-Certified Plastic Surgeon
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September 22, 2020
Answer: Acne scar subcision Acne scars are treated differently depending on their appearance and structure. Deep wide scars can be released and filled in with subcision and a filler such as Bellafill which is specifically designed for divets and depressions left by acne. The very thin or deep ice-pick scars are best treated by excising them completely. I especially like a combination of a chemical peel for the hyperpigmentation and acne control, microneedling with PRP for texture and collagen building, and PIXEL fractionated laser or RF to resurface and build even more collagen. I would use the subcision with Bellafill for the individual deeper scars. Not everyone is a candidate for all the treatment options however as certain skin types can get worse from certain treatments. For the best treatment options, it is important to visit an expert for an in-person examination. Hope this helps! Johnson C. Lee, MD Board-Certified Plastic Surgeon
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Answer: Subcision and scars The ideal treatment for acne scars will depend on the morphology of individual scars. For example, rolling scars are best treated with subcision, atrophic scars with fillers, pick-ice pick scars with TCA or Phenol CROSS/ Paint, box-scar scars with fractional laser/ modified TCA/ phenol chemical peels, hypertrophic scars with steroid injections/modulated fractional delivery. In the context of your scar type, subcision with filler maybe appropriate. Energy devices such as lasers, microneedling RF and bipolar radiofrequency are other methods to treat ‘general’ scar types. For example devices can improve rolling-tethered scars as well as ‘deep - superficial scars’ such as broad ice-pick scars and broad box-car scars. Devices should be viewed as a method of scar revision, and rarely as a sole modality. Exceptions do apply- for example in patients with predominantly shallow/broad box-car scars and or superficial pits. Another factor that will determine the ideal combination of treatment is the skin type of patients. Skin typing used to determine the ‘skin colour’ of patients. Darker skin patients will require modifications to treatment parameters. This includes a lower percentage of chemical peels, conservative protocols for lasers and energy devices and in some cases pre and post treatment of skin to reduce but not eliminate the chances of PIH- post inflammatory hyperpigmentation- skin darkening. The very first step in scar revision is to accurately determine the subset of scars you have. This is best done with a real time examination. Factors such as animation (rather than static photographs) are frequently used to determine the amount of ‘deep scarring’ /anchored scars or tethering. Palpation or touch is also extremely important to determine the presence of dermal and subdermal fibrosis. Scars that have altered ‘texture’ either hard or soft (atrophy) are more challenging to treat compared to scars with ‘normal’ texture. In some cases the use of angled lighting can be employed to accurately map scar types. My answers given in the context of this question is a general plan given the limited information. For an accurate guide, one has to take into consideration factors such as animation, touch, feel, real time examination and most importantly subjective measures, namely patient expectations. A real time consult with a procedural dermatologist or plastic surgeon is required for the best accuracy- diagnosis. All the best, Dr Davin S. Lim, Dermatologist. Brisbane. Australia.
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Answer: Subcision and scars The ideal treatment for acne scars will depend on the morphology of individual scars. For example, rolling scars are best treated with subcision, atrophic scars with fillers, pick-ice pick scars with TCA or Phenol CROSS/ Paint, box-scar scars with fractional laser/ modified TCA/ phenol chemical peels, hypertrophic scars with steroid injections/modulated fractional delivery. In the context of your scar type, subcision with filler maybe appropriate. Energy devices such as lasers, microneedling RF and bipolar radiofrequency are other methods to treat ‘general’ scar types. For example devices can improve rolling-tethered scars as well as ‘deep - superficial scars’ such as broad ice-pick scars and broad box-car scars. Devices should be viewed as a method of scar revision, and rarely as a sole modality. Exceptions do apply- for example in patients with predominantly shallow/broad box-car scars and or superficial pits. Another factor that will determine the ideal combination of treatment is the skin type of patients. Skin typing used to determine the ‘skin colour’ of patients. Darker skin patients will require modifications to treatment parameters. This includes a lower percentage of chemical peels, conservative protocols for lasers and energy devices and in some cases pre and post treatment of skin to reduce but not eliminate the chances of PIH- post inflammatory hyperpigmentation- skin darkening. The very first step in scar revision is to accurately determine the subset of scars you have. This is best done with a real time examination. Factors such as animation (rather than static photographs) are frequently used to determine the amount of ‘deep scarring’ /anchored scars or tethering. Palpation or touch is also extremely important to determine the presence of dermal and subdermal fibrosis. Scars that have altered ‘texture’ either hard or soft (atrophy) are more challenging to treat compared to scars with ‘normal’ texture. In some cases the use of angled lighting can be employed to accurately map scar types. My answers given in the context of this question is a general plan given the limited information. For an accurate guide, one has to take into consideration factors such as animation, touch, feel, real time examination and most importantly subjective measures, namely patient expectations. A real time consult with a procedural dermatologist or plastic surgeon is required for the best accuracy- diagnosis. All the best, Dr Davin S. Lim, Dermatologist. Brisbane. Australia.
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