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Inconsistent - Englewood, NJ

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Whether it was an early childhood incident that...

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Whether it was an early childhood incident that left me with a bloody nose or my full blooded Italian descent, by the time I reached high school, my nose was disproportionately too big for my face. I had perfect Audrey-like bone structure and a graceful dancer's body to match, but there was something getting in the way of men being attracted to me and it was the crater in the middle of my face. My friend told me that if I broke it, insurance would cover the cost, so I used to take my field hockey stick and self-inflict until I couldn't take anymore. Right before leaving for college, hoping to start a new leaf, I went to Dr. D'Amico for my first rhinoplasty. The nose came out immaculately small and I was finally able to feel comfortable in my own skin. However, after being elbowed by someone at a frat party, the nose became droopy and it eventually collapsed. I was devastated and became increasingly obsessed with it so I consulted another surgeon who ended up adding cartilage, making it too big. Tortured and distraught, I returned to Dr. D'Amico's office only 3 months prior to being operated on. Instead of recognizing that it needed to heal, he agreed to operate on it, assuring me he'd do the best he could. Well the best he could left me with too much cartilage, a huge upturned tip and a nose that is totally off balance with delicate features. No men stare at me anymore or ask me out and when I did a photo shoot with a famous photographer I was almost in tears when I saw the nose up close. Richard D'Amico is a very inconsistent surgeon who ultimately did not give me the results I am looking for and I'm devastated that after waiting a life time for a flawless face, I am still unhappy with my nose.

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Richard A. D’Amico, MD, FACS

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March 24, 2014
Your nose looks good in these pics u posted
March 24, 2014
It's way too big for my face. After the incredible work he did on my first nose job, I know what it feels like to be pretty. Things came so easily for me and I learned how to enslave any man with my wit, charm and beauty. And I'm saying this because we live in a patriarchal society where if you're not pretty circumstances don't fall into your lap and you are forced to work extra hard for everything you have. You have to be pretty, talented, and smart to make it in this world and now I feel as if I lost one of the advantages I had over other people, my looks.
March 24, 2014
I know how it feels. I was ugly my whole life and after my surgery I got treated differently. People are much nicer to me, and as much as I like the special treatment I get, at the same time it disgusts me that people are so shallow
March 24, 2014
I'm too embarrassed to leave my apartment or see anyone from High School or elementary school because rumors have been circulating throughout the private school circuit that I got attractive. How misleading. I fearful of accidental encounters with people from my past because now their image of me as someone who's appearance improved substantially will be shattered. I am ashamed to be seen in public and I literally have to work so hard to have any semblance of being attractive.
March 24, 2014
It's so true yet so tragic. People are so shallow! And no one understands it unless they have gone through the process of surgery. People who would never even consider talking to me, starting showing interest in me, people actually said hello to me and hugged me. It honestly makes me cry and it's so painful to be overlooked again because I don't meet the physical demands that society imposes on us. There's this video of Dennis Hoffman crying. He was playing the role of a woman in Tootsie and when they were doing his make up he asked them, you can't make me any more beautiful than this? And they told him that's as beautiful as he was going to get. And he started crying because he realized there are so many smart and interesting women he would never even start up a conversation with due to their physical inadequacies. Now I feel like I'm in the predicament of the woman who is constantly being overlooked and it is a very painful process. I feel like I am revisiting scarring memories from my past over and over again.
March 24, 2014
U look great in the pics, and probably still better than before your first surgery
March 26, 2014
is the 1st pic your current nose and the 2nd pic after your first surgery
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May 8, 2015
Could you post a picture of your first successful surgery and a pic of you now?
March 24, 2014
Thanks, I honestly think Dr. D'amico is a great doctor and I have a lot of respect for him, but I just still don't feel beautiful. The famed beauty broker actually generated an image of me with a much thinner, smaller nose and I look flawless, like a Kardashian, so I know that with a much smaller nose I can be substantially prettier. Also, after the third nose job, I stopped receiving as many compliments from people and had to start working a lot harder to prove myself to people. At one point I thought it was all in my head, but I had a close friend confess that I was a lot prettier with the first nose job. And it really tortures me that I didn't see my beauty back then. Also, I have spent the last few years being friends with impossibly thin models who garnered a lot of attention from men which only furthered my frustration with the superficiality of humanity.
March 25, 2014
But what needs to be emphasized here, is that the initial nose job Dr. D'Amico gave me was a true work of art. I really doubt that any other surgeon could've given me such impeccable results that fit my face so beautifully. I was universally attractive and had an impish Audrey Hepburn face. Men would stop me on the street, gasping in adoration, collegiate frat boys were lining up to date me even at a school where every girl was no lower than an 8 on the hotness scale. So comparably speaking, the nose I have now cannot possibly match up to the initial results Dr. D'Amico gave me. However, as a revision surgeon, he was unable to salvage the nose to it's former state. It's truly psychologically scaring to no longer have a face that embodies the golden ratio. And men only further perpetuate my dissatisfaction, making bold statements like, "oh, you're a worthless 7" when I try to play coy. I am just wondering if it is possible to have a Connie Selleca nose. My aunt was friends with her in high school and the nose job launched her acting career. Before that, she was no great beauty.
February 25, 2015
Men really say "you're a worthless 7"?? Sorry, that sounds totally made up...you sound like you have body dysmorphia and are trying to blame it on your surgeon.
February 28, 2015
Zunaira, people who don't live here do not believe it but New York men will actually say these types of things to your face. Several years ago a guy told me I was a "six" and that same night anther guy offered me a boob job. The men here are pigs
March 1, 2015
YES!!!! Actually three guys have told me that my face was a 7. And when I was dating a frat boy at Columbia, the banter I overheard was terribly disturbing. They have this system of how they rate girls called the area code system, face is the first #, body the second and personality the third. Truly sickening. I'm 25. I thought I'd be married by now but I decided I hate men and I'm staying single for eternity. My face is deformed, even after all I've accomplished in my life, what guy wants a 7?
February 4, 2015
sending you a message
March 1, 2015
But I don't even think I'm a 7. I'm probably like a 4
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This is the face I want. I feel as if people would stop acting like I didn't exist if I had this face, especially men. I'm virtually treated like a cab driver by the average, run-of-the-mill guy who I meet at a bar, so I'm forced to date exclusively Ivy League men who can actually appreciate my humor and intelligence and can see beyond what meets the eye. After the first nose job with Dr. D'Amico, every guy I hung out with wanted to date me, even if I treated them horrendously. Now virtually no one appreciates my beauty unless they actually know me on a personal level. As a woman, it's so dehumanizing to be constantly ignored and treated like a second class citizen. There has to be someone out there who can make me beautiful so I don't have to try as hard.

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March 26, 2014
I'm trying to feel compassion for you but it's hard. Do you realize how you sound to other people? Maybe you should start hanging out with people other than "impossibly thin models" to snap yourself back into the reality. Now you're exclusively forced to date ivy league men" ???? This can't be real
March 26, 2014
I do have some models in my social circle and I can relate-it makes you feel bad about yourself, especially when men talk about how they "only date runway models." If there are men out there who are less shallow, somebody tell me where they are hiding
March 26, 2014
And be glad you are meeting ivy league men! I only ever meet idiots and jerks! You're better off with a man who appreciates personality--men who only care about looks are more likely to cheat on you when you get old
March 26, 2014
of course there are men that are less shallow otherwise the only girls who would ever been in relationships are runway models. If you are referring to men out there who are less shallow AND who are also tall, rich, handsome men well then...can't help you there.
March 26, 2014
Why would I want anything besides tall, rich and handsome?
March 26, 2014
I find that even the most authentic, genuine guys value beauty above all else. The third nose job literally ruined my relationship with someone I had been dating for 4 years. He stopped putting as much effort into the relationship after my looks disintegrated. It were as if everything we worked towards was a total waste. Highly traumatic experience being that I met this guy in elementary school and thought he was my soulmate.
December 17, 2014
Where else have you actually looked? Davis--who else? For what it's worth, you are still incredibly beautiful. I won't berate you for the [RS bleep] you hang out with but they sound inhumanly stupid, including the piece of trash that let you go even after a bad nose job. Genuine guys value beauty highly, but someone that dumps you for still having your face with a bulbous nose added is not "authentic". It means he didn't actually value his history with you. I have recommendations in NY, including doctors that go to Korea to get the tricks, but I may already have given them to you.
December 17, 2014
@Starrynight316: by the way--that "human Barbie" might not talk about the surgeons she uses, but it's pretty clear her nose looks like a long, skinny bone because that is a piece of silicone in there, stretching the skin taught. I wouldn't be surprised if she couldn't breath; it matters because you should want your nose narrowed but if your surgeon isn't careful or something goes wrong you'll suffer internal valve collapse, as I have. My nose is now deviated a year after bad rhino.
March 26, 2014
This is the most outrageous post I've read on RealSelf.
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March 26, 2014
I second that
March 6, 2015
No its not theres one worse : ( but yes this is bad. I can sympathize with the poster even though I think She is " STUNNING AND GORGEOUS ". She feels the men arent interested because of her nose but it may not be the reason. Im in NY I knew woman with bad noses , bad acne , bad teeth , flat chest and they were men magnets. The secret I realize now at the sad age of 40 is when I look back they were " attractive " not pretty . The difference attractive meaning they had good hair long thick , had nice coloring always tan with nice light eyes, dressed sexy . You can have a perfect face but men especially in bars and clubs just look at a quick glance notice what I call " bells and whistles" i.e. hair, the way your dressed , coloring basically the overall picture
March 8, 2015
Nothing is ridiculous when you're at a bar with your friend, and every single guy at the bar is obsessively courting your friend and ignoring you and then when you decide not to be a wing women you get reprimanded by a guy who screams on the top of his lungs "YOU ARE NOT BEAUTIFUL, YOU ARE NOT CUTE, YOU ARE NOT PRETTY!" Those words and being ignored like a unwanted lepore put me over the edge and made me realize just how unattractive I am, because I continually get treated similarly by men in the same manner time and time again. Not because I'm not funny, or not interesting. When I had my first nose job, I was at all time worst, coping with severe depression, and could hardly hold a conversation. Literally every guy was in love with me. Now it's impossible for me to keep a man interested for more than two seconds. Seriously, I give up.
March 26, 2014
This is simultaneously the most pitiful and exasperating post I've ever read on this forum. You sound insufferably vain, self interested, and fixated solely on cosmetic surface appearances. We're all seeking to enhance our beauty or we wouldn't be here, and yes, we've all fallen victim to the superficial, phallocentric world we live in that brainwashes us to subscribe to some elusive, narrow standard of beauty that's almost impossible to achieve (hence the plastic surgery). I admit that sometimes I feel like a craven fraud for letting myself be controlled by the shallow dictates of society, so I understand your point about it being easier to be pretty. HOWEVER, you are f**king pretty! Like seriously, you are very good looking. But beyond that, step outside your swelled, inflamed ego for a sec (can you?it takes up a whole room, it seems). think about your position in the world. There are people who are hideously disfigured or fatally diseased or starving or raped or brutally suppressed by fascist governments and unable to exert the most basic rights you enjoy (and they're certainly not enjoying the free drinks at ritzy bars made by 'mixologists' with curled moustaches and paid for by your 'ivy leaguers' who you inexplicably refer to in a condescending manner). Jesus. You're so privileged, this might as well be a Gossip Girl plot (but an excessively obnoxious one that got axed cuz it would have made viewers' blood pressures skyrocket with ire). At the end of the day, the content of your character supersedes all that superficial [RS bleep], so step away from a mirror, stop hanging out with egomaniacal douches who value appearance above all else, and start cultivating other attributes you can be proud of. Because newsflash: even if you attain your perfect nose, your beauty will inevitably fade anyway over the years, so you might as well start becoming a full dimensional, useful human being with something of substance to offer. Otherwise you'll likely be suicidal when you hit 40. Jesus. Get some perspective, woman. You'll be a whole lot prettier if your motivations weren't so vacuous and gross.
March 26, 2014
Also, to clarify, I have sympathy regarding the fact that you say your first survey result was undermined (though quite honestly, you are still very pretty). It's your rationale behind everything makes me want to bash my head against the wall.
March 26, 2014
Starry, these people will never understand :( they don't live in New York and see and experience the kinda of things we do. It's futile trying to explain to them...
March 26, 2014
Thanks Cute. I was thinking of moving to another city where the people are wholesome but the next city I would feasibly move to would be LA which is even worse. Al my friends from camp have always been from LA
March 26, 2014
Omg same! But then those people will think we are shallow snobs!
March 26, 2014
guys, i'm from orange county--also known as the epicenter of synthetic faces and vapid culture. I get wanting to be prettier--I want to look better, too. But it's not because I want to take the easy route through life and have things handed to me due to my hotness. That attitude is setting yourself up for disappointment when your beauty does fade (and look at every actress over 50--even the most beautiful women in the world invariably end up losing their once coveted looks). It's the motives I'm highlighting here. There's nothing wrong with wanting to be more attractive, and there's nothing wrong with wanting more male attention--but couple it with a true desire to develop other traits and skills, too. And you should want to work hard for the things you get in life; it's more satisfying and a testiment to your mettle.
March 26, 2014
Have I ever been anything but a shallow snob? Lol
March 26, 2014
Peanut, I agree having a balanced persona is key. As I said earlier, it's a combination of talent, intelligence and beauty that will get you to where you want to be in life. I don't think I'm unattractive, I just don't think my face is all that and it's something I have to live with my entire life. I lived my formative years being belittled because of my appearance. I was always pretty but I was never pretty enough to really stand out. I still get told I'm unattractive when I go to bars. In fact, I am still really scared by an experience of a guy coming up to me and saying "you are not cute, you are not pretty, you are not beautiful". That would never happen to someone who is actually attractive
March 26, 2014
Sometimes guys say those things when they don't mean it just to hurt you and make you feel bad as retaliation for not wanting to **** them
March 26, 2014
wow, that guy is blind and most likely just projecting onto you his own personal insecurities. ugh, guys who behave like that often harbor deep, dark feelings of inadequacy and should be [RS bleep] stopped from passing on their genetic material. anyway, i know where you're coming from, starrynight. i too would like a stunning face to match the bounty of awesomeness that i have to offer on the inside. i know i'm not ugly, but it would be super sweet to be considered universally attractive, and it definitely hurts to be overlooked at bars when you're standing next to someone super hot. it's all about balancing the external and internal, but yeah man. i'd like to be hotter for sure.
February 13, 2015
@peanut7: Even as a ranter, you're a great writer. I totally sympathize with this woman. It's not merely about "beauty" as an abstract concept, but self-image and comfort in one's own skin. I'm in New York and while I don't expect a perfect nose...but it makes a face. And the loss of my own "perfect" nose after serious injury following a complex rhinoplasty feels like the worst thing that's ever happened to me, because I no longer really control how I feel in my own skin. I have to fake my emotions. (I have bad skin, this has messed with vascular issues, etc. It made those issues worse, too.) It's a medical procedure too, y'know? You can't remove a bad nose job like make-up. It's permanent. I think there's a fine line between fixation on the perfect nose--or eve one with flaws, but that otherwise feels like it belongs on your face and functions well-- and coming into the sense that you paid someone to irreparably alter your body so much that you are no longer comfortable in your own skin or recognize yourself. There are certain things a young woman wants from life that "mettle" and even a prestigious career will not bring her that have to be pursued and cultivated now. My f*cked up skin and the quasi-cleft nose I developed after someone injected an alloderm filler made me who I am in the worst way, no matter how hard I pushed and tried to "fake it till I make it". It makes things that are supposed to feel easy exhausting. "And you should want to work hard for the things you get in life; it's more satisfying and a testament to your mettle." Nope. There's a fine line between taking a challenge with a good sense of yourself, and experiencing life at a deficit because you can't bear your own face.
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May 9, 2015
Totally agree. If a guy tells you you are a seven its bcs he's insecure! And why is he insecure around you? Bcs you're beautiful! Sheesh men aren't that hard to figure out.
March 26, 2014
No, both images are the same nose. Sorry if I came off overly conceited and priveleged. I love your comment about how this could be a Gossip Girl plot. I just grew up around very self involved people and got overly caught up in Manhattan's social scene among very judgemental, appearence-centric types. And most of these posts are seriously exaggerated and dramatized for comedic purposes. Afterall, this is a plastic surgery forum, someone has to contribute some form of entertainment to lively things up. Plastic surgery completely changed my outlook. I was always beauty obsessed but it never really occurred to me how much other people were until I got my first nose job
March 26, 2014
I am have an extensive cultural palette in film, art and music. I can differentiate a Kandinsky from a Miro. I've read every Russian novel known to man. I'm a highly skilled strings and tennis player. I volunteer with autistic children. I can assure that I'm not as vapid as I presented myself and my world is not exclusive to superficiality. Just, going under the knife shifted my whole perspective of other people and my perception of myself because people were reacting to me so differently.
March 26, 2014
ok, that's fair. i think you were doing yourself an injustice and misrepresnting your true values and persona by hyperbolizing your situation. i see now that you are clued into meaningful cultural matters and you value scholarly pursuits. you've just been lured into the vortex of pursuing perfection, and i totally empathize with that, because i have found myself obsessed at times too. i just hope that you (and all of us!) can recognize how crippling that compulsion to attain beauty can become if you let it go unchecked. again, nothing wrong with wanting to be prettier, and it IS easier to be beautiful, of course. but it's important to not let it take over and eclipse all the other beautiful [RS bleep] life has to offer. (btw, i'm not sitting high on a horse of self-righteousness..i have to remind myself of these things, too. all the time.)
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May 9, 2015
Peanut 7 I like what you had to say. True and insightful.
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April 29, 2014
Wait omg @Cutelittlenose, thanks for introducing me to the Chainsmokers selfie song. I just found out I know the girl who is the voice of that song. She came to my 20th birthday party. Wow so random. It's such a small world. Crazyyy
July 6, 2014
I'm literally hideous now thanks to this doctor! I guess I will have to venture to Korea. Literally I have to work so hard to get a guy, no guys ever work to get me unless they've seen pictures of me on FB where I edit out my nose in every picture. I guess I'm going to Davis for my next nose job. I just want the face of a model. I have perfect cheek bone and Doe eyes, why can't my nose compliment my face? My life would be so much easier