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Disappointment - Northern CA

I will try to update with pics as soon as possible...

I will try to update with pics as soon as possible but right now it is hard for me to take one without crying. I had my procedure a few weeks ago with a double board certified ENT/ Facial cosmetic surgeon. I decided on him after meeting with two other cosmetic surgeons. I had an open septoplasty/ turbinate reduction/ rhinoplasty with cartilage graft. My nose had been broken once before. My breathing is much improved from the procedure but the cosmetic outcome makes me wish I never did any of this. I went to my doctor based on a referral from a family friend who's cosmetic outcome was simply gorgeous. I then scheduled an appointment for consultation, and the doctor really seemed to know his stuff. He showed me his book full of pictures and the results were nice and natural looking. Being that his pictures looked good and I had the advantage of knowing someone who, 2 years after the procedure still looked great and was pleased with the outcome, I booked my surgery.

Recovery was tough on me because I am not a mouth breather, and I was lucky to sleep more than 15 minutes at a time due to waking up coughing with a dry throat. Aside from that, I did not have much pain or anything like that..

I had my cast removed over a week ago. When it came off my nose was all red and flaky and I did not really know what I was looking at face on, so I tired not to look at it too much. He showed me a glance from the side and I instantly thought "the bump is still there!" but really tried to just not judge yet. He put the tape on and I went home.

I was told I could take the tape off a few days later and continue to tape whenever I wish. I will tell you right now, this tape is staying on my face until I get a revision. I look far better with it on than off. I know, I know, maybe there is still swelling, I am not even a month out, yadda yadda.... my nose is CROOKED. Not uneven swelling, crooked. as in leaning way more to one side.

As I said before my nose was broken, so he did a cartilage graft to balance things out but all it did was make it big and make it lean. I had nothing done to the tip or my nostrils. This was supposed to be a "finesse" type rhinoplasty. my bridge is still high, crooked, and there was supposed to be a straight line but there is still a boney, non-swollen hump that then dips down towards my tip. I can see where he did the graft how I still feel/look swollen, but that considered, this is not a nice outcome, and if the swelling keeps going down it will honestly probably look worse and make the bump that is still crooked and big, more prominent. I only told a few people I had this done and I am embarrassed for them to see what I paid for. I don't want my fiancé to look at or touch me. I don't want to leave my house. I am normally a strong person and can take things into consideration, but I know this is not an "it will get better" situation. Others like me who have had a bad outcome knew something was wrong right away. Now I face the even more terrifying thought of a revision... which I don't even know how to deal with. Seriously disappointed.

1/2/13 After doing a little research and mulling...

1/2/13
After doing a little research and mulling it over, the initial shock and disappointment has subsided quite a bit. I have decided the World is not ending. I posted originally right after seeing that this bump will not go away by itself. But the more I have looked into it, I would revise that review to a "not sure". Nobody goes into this wanting/ expecting to have to have more fine tuning done afterwards. I realize after talking it over with my hunny & family that yes, there are still areas to be improved but it is better. Apparently septum shifting back to its original place happens, and isn't necessarily the fault of the surgeon. It's nature. It is unfortunate I had a residual bump but I am not alone with that. This is something that also can happen and from what I read can be resolved as soon as 6 months out. At least it was not over-scooped. This also does not mean my surgeon was incompetent. I placed a call to him and we will discuss the next step but I realize I had a complicated nose, and I could have had this outcome with even the best of doctors. I have high hopes and anticipate him to be more than understanding and to help me through this and want to further remedy this not only for myself, but his already wonderful reputation. This is just the reality of what can happen with this type of surgery. Good luck and best wishes to all! Will update again, soon :)

So to catch all up to speed, swelling has...

So to catch all up to speed, swelling has subsided, and I dislike it more and more. I know, everyone is all about seeing pics and I know I prefer a review with pics but I am sorry.... if I was happy or satisfied in any way I would, but I am so upset over it that it just is not going to happen. For people in my area who want to pm for pictures I could probably arrange that. But if I go posting on my review, well I might as well post naked pictures, too. That's how I feel.

My surgeon doesn't really know what he can do for it, which I am on the one hand glad he expressed because if he has no confidence in himself than I don't either. While it is sad I can no longer trust him, better than for him to lie and I end up with a bigger disaster. On the other hand it is so unacceptable to me that he has no real explanations. In regards to the residual hump, he said "I don't know if fixing it would even be worth it". I wanted to yell "WORTH IT TO WHO?!" Because OBVIOUSLY it is worth it to me. I'd maybe bear it if it even resemled my old natural bump before I broke it, but this is a completely different looking one. My nose still looks broken... the only real change was the sides were narrowed. Only one side was narrowed in too much to where the side bone sits under the top bone instead of joining it smoothly... giving me a real nice dent. It still leans, and I see no attempt was actually made to straighten my septum. I had a nasal valve collapse prior to surgery from a break that I thought he would address being that he said he was going to use spreader grafts... well he totally ignored where it was really needed. He said he didn't put any where the collapse was because then my nose would look too big... I'm sorry but I thought this was about achieving balance? So the narrowed sides now emphasize the collapse. This is why, even though lots of docs don't like computer imaging, it would have been helpful in this case because I would have a visual of his intent not to fix my collapse, and I wouldn't have gone to him.

Not a day goes by that I am not depressed over it. It is ruining my life right now and my relationship. I never liked my nose to begin with but I never sought surgery until I literally broke it. I figured that it made sense to fix something broken. I researched doctors for longer than most do, and this still happened to me. So just know, no matter how much of your homework you do, you could still end up unhappy and the end result could be very hard on you psychologically. I did my best to be patient and have hope in all of this even though I was unhappy since cast removal, but I can't pretend anymore. I'd even take my broken nose over this one, because at least I didn't pay for that one. I wish the best of luck to everyone on their journey of trying to be satisfied with their reflection.

You any of you out there who are or have suffered...

You any of you out there who are or have suffered through a bad surgery/outcome.... how do you cope? Do you have a mix of good & bad days? Can you get through work ok? I am currently looking for work and find it very hard to muster up the courage to go on interviews looking how I do. I doubt my nose looks like a botched nose job to strangers, probably more like I got into a horrible accident. I am lucky enough to have not bumped into any friends or acquaintances since this happened, and I pray to God that I don't ever until this gets fixed. It sucks to hide, though. There are some family members I really don't want seeing me either. I have absolutely no life now. It's hard to even want to get up every day. I only leave the house to do what I absolutely have to. And yes, I have seen a therapist about how to cope with it but it is still the biggest challenge of my life! My mom tries to tell me it is not so bad and so does my significant other but it is just to make me feel better. I have a mirror, I have a camera. I can look at myself objectively and it no question looks worse then my broken nose and if someone knew I paid to have this done.... that this is a rhinoplasty, they wold probably be very surprised that this was someone's attempt at fixing it.

I am just so upset I did this to myself and wonder if I am pushing my luck having this grotesque mess fixed. You can't even expect a good outcome when you know someone personally who got a great nose from the same surgeon... it is very sad!

Any people out there with good revision stories? It is almost impossible to find any. I want to have hope but then wonder how I would feel just going through more surgeries, only to end up looking even more disfigured. I truly can't believe this even happened to me! In no way could I have ever been prepared. I tried so hard to be positive even though I knew when the cast came off it was a mistake to have done this. I have been so strong and put on my "big girl" panties dozens of times and I just can't anymore. Especially since the surgeon did all but shrug his shoulders at me the last time I saw him. I am so angry that I trusted this person and had faith in him. I truly thought he would not be a doctor that conducted himself that way but that's when you see who you are REALLY dealing with.... when things go WRONG. I know it was elective but there should still be cases where it is acceptable to be reimbursed when something elective and cosmetic goes BAD. In nothing that I signed did it say that a risk could be looking like a victim of some freak accident. I can't help but be mad at myself for thinking I deserved to have something broken fixed. I disliked my nose before it was broken and had several opportunities to have it operated on, but didn't. I learned to find things I liked about it as I got older. But of course when I broke it and couldn't breathe anymore, it made sense to me to try to look more "normal" again. I am sorry for the rant but I just feel like a fool.... a fool for trying to be positive and say maybe this was a problem with healing and not my surgeon's mistake and a fool for thinking he would be able to just fix whatever he screwed up... a fool for even attempting to have a normal looking nose. I do have some ok days where I don't feel like this the whole day, but today is not one of them. I guess I am just looking for some hope from people who have had revisions, because I don't want this looking like a bigger train wreck than it already does :(

Just a small update, the side of my nose that was...

Just a small update, the side of my nose that was overly narrowed (bone moved in too far) is now getting to where it is starting to obstruct my breathing. It is collapsed inward and upon a deeper inspiration, closes off. The nasal bone is narrowed in so close that it is all but flat against my septum. If I pull on my cheek beside my nose and breath, it feels how it did on that side before surgery and also pulls the skin into it's original normal looking position... I just don't get why the Hell he did this to me. Keep in mind I have a nasal collapse on the opposite side that he just left there, and when my deviated septum was corrected, the new found air flow on that side causes that nostril to suck inward. It is sad that this gets more depressing by the day and I truly hope there is a good, HONEST, caring doctor who can deliver what I believe have always been realistic expectations. I really need to start hearing some great revision stories right about now. I need some real hope!

*I will also add, while I am so happy for all of...

*I will also add, while I am so happy for all of the positive reviews on here, I really cannot help but feel jealous sometimes. It's hard not to blame yourself when things go wrong. I just wish I had a happy story on here, too! Maybe one day.

Looking for "Mr. Right".

So, another little update... I received some before and afters I requested from my surgeon's office. They arrived. What a joke. Literally the same broken nose I went in with only with a bigger hump that is narrowed in on both sides, making the hump larger. Oh and of course the added dented in bone creating a solid straight line down my whole nose. So weird looking. Of course my "afters" were only a month out and not depicting my now de-swelled sides of my nose where there is some collapse. Truly a joke to me. I am trying to tell myself that for revision it is basically the same nose that will be worked with... all though the surgeon said "I couldn't take any more out of your nose" which kind of scared me to even hear, he said that when he was perplexed over this hump I still have. So I think he meant he was sure the bump was reduced as much as possible, though clearly that is not the case. It is as if he took the broken hump I went in with and smoothed the sides of it, left it still tall (or I developed a calcification or I dunno what) then narrowed me side bones, creating an even TALLER nose/bump. I am really hoping it can be restored to a natural state, as I just want to look normal. I have never had outlandish expectations or wanted to look like someone else. I just wanted to look like "me" before my nose broke, how I appeared when I was in "good" lighting. Now there is no good lighting, as this tall narrow nose looks pinched and any overhead lighting just makes me want to crawl under a rock.

So, I am still actively looking into revision. I would like to look in to Dr. Kim, who I have since met with and he would like me to come back in the near future when I am closer to revision time. I liked him very much. He was quite humble and straight forward and the quote did not seem outrageous, as well as he did not give me the impression that my case is a total doozy. I would also like to meet with Dr. Most, and the jury is still out on who my third doctor to meet with will be. I might meet with more than that, but those are the ones at the top of my list and who my surgeon referred me to after scratching his head. I will also add, that when I requested the photos I let his assistant know, since she had inquired, about my whole ordeal. She is a sweet lady and I am sure she passed the message along about me saying how my nose is now collapsing. I was surprised that he has not reached out and called. Even though I am not confident in his abilities to fix my situation in particular, I would still expect some concern for something like that happening. At the same time, I know it is time to just move on from that whole relationship... I held out hope for a long time as you can see in my prior entries, but when a surgeon doesn't know what to do or says they don't think removing a bigger looking hump than what you went in with would be "worth it", you know they won't be giving you their all. In the beginning he came across as having great bedside manner, but as previously stated, you don't really know who you are dealing with until something goes wrong.

So, I have started a little journal over in the revision rhinoplasty section. It can be discouraging in that section at times. I come across many that have had 2+ revisions and are just beside themselves with grief, and I am really concerned that it could be me, also. I am really trying to wrap my head around having another surgery. I relate this experience to going through a soul-crushing breakup. I thought I had found "the one", but my heart has been totally broken and shattered and I am feeling ugly and worthless. Now I have to find the strength to get back out there and move on so I can find the "right one for me", while trying not to be bitter and think that they are "all the same". I hope the next one was meant to be and that I live happily ever after :) I am searching for my surgeon soul mate!!! Dreams do come true sometimes, right?

A realization

I am realizing the hardest thing is learning how to carry myself with this nose. I believe this is due to the fact that it is very unpredictable and always looks different due to the major inconsistencies regarding cemetery. I have a couple of decades learning how to work my best angles, and now there truly aren't any and it makes me feel so awkward. Being that one side is so caved in, it's almost as if my nose curls over slightly, kind of like an ocean wave. There is just no way to know at any given time how it might look and it distorts my other features. I go to looking at photos of my nose, before rhinoplasty and before I broke it -which only slightly enlarged my natural hump- and I can't help but mourn the loss of that face. I'd even take the broken version. This nose is just too different from who I am and does not enhance a single thing, just makes parts of my face look hollow and just bad. I feel like I need miracle worker!

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The doctor is not listed on this site, but I chose him based off of the recommendation of a family friend who appeared to have had a nice result. I will private message about my doctor to those in Northern CA who inquire. *******I also will no longer be responding to messages from non-established members on this site (people who sign up only to message me, are not documenting an experience or openly commenting to other members). *******

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Rayah7 21 May 2013
Hey. Have you had a consult with Dr. Clutter in Sacramento? I've chosen him to do my surgery. He said that he does a lot of revisions. His practice is about 95% rhinoplasty. He's been doing it for 30+ years and has done about 4500-5000 rhinos. His before and afters aren't on the internet except a couple girls on here. Because he doesn't have his own website. But at the consult I saw them and they are wonderful. Anyway....maybe look into him. Also have you consulted with Dr. Jacobs? He's good too just over priced in my opinion. I also think Dr. Most would probably do a great job on you. :)
Miss.K 21 May 2013
No, I have yet to meet with anyone other than Dr. Kim in SF. He did his normal consult but also wants me to come back at my 9 month mark to have a more realistic idea of what my issues are. I am about to be at 6 months soon and I feel like that is a more acceptable time for me to really get into some consults so that my situation is closer to the reality they will be dealing with. Thank you so much for your input, I truly appreciate it and look into all of the doctors you mentioned! At this point, no price is too much if it will give me a natural nose that doesn't make me look too different from the original me. Thanks again!
Rayah7 21 May 2013
Oh I see. So sorry you are going through this! :-( I hope you get what you want soon and time goes fast so you can get going with your search for Mr. Right. ;)
Miss.K 21 May 2013
Thank you so much, love! Everyone's support on this site has helped carry me thus far. I almost did not even get into my ordeal on here because it is embarrassing to be going through, but it truly helps to have people care :)
Faith2012 (RealFriend) 20 May 2013
Miss K, I think a journal is a great idea and I love the Mr. Right comparison!  I am very sorry to hear that you're still going through the pain.  Please keep us updated on your journey.  I'm especially interested since we are in the same area.  Feel free to contact me personally when you need someone to vent or talk to.  And yes...dreams do come true...especially when put in the work and make them happen.
Miss.K 20 May 2013
Thank you, Faith! You are one of the people on here who really keeps me going. It is definitely nice that we are in the same area so we can compare notes. Thanks for always being there for me! I am here for you as well!
WantMyLittlesBack 26 Apr 2013
Wow. Just read your story. I'm really sorry for your experience. I hope that you decide on a good surgeon. I heard dr sadati in Newport Beach was good. He's on here. And has a bunch of photos on his website. Look into it.
Miss.K 26 Apr 2013
Thank you very much for your input! I do check out every surgeon mentioned to me so I appreciate the suggestion :)
nosejob12 20 May 2013
Im looking for second opinion. OC is close to my place in LA. Who recommended you he is a good surgeon? I checked out his site and all his pictures where from the side, not from front like most PS do.
Miss.K 20 May 2013
Are you asking who recommended Dr. Kim to me? My original surgeon did as well as a few other people, but I should have been more specific. I am talking about Dr. David W. Kim of San Francisco, who has several before and afters on his website that show all views. Good luck!
nosejob12 20 May 2013
oh thanks but I was asking Wantmylittles back, who recommended you he is a good surgeon ?
WantMyLittlesBack 20 May 2013
One of my friends. He has photos from front and side on his website, I'll private message u the link!
Miss.K 20 May 2013
Ohhh I see :)
nosejob12 20 May 2013
I saw his website he has front and side but from different people. I dont see the front, 3/4 shot, and side for each individual patient. Message would be great :)
Angiemcc (Community Manager) 26 Apr 2013

I'm sorry things have not gotten better. :( There are some amazing revision surgeons out there. Here's what some doctors have to say about finding the right one.

Miss.K 26 Apr 2013
Thank you, Angie! I am trying to remain positive about revisions and I am lucky to have a couple of Surgeons that are highly regarded out my way. It is still a bit early for me to do consults but I am getting excited to have some hope restored when it comes to my case. While it is discouraging to not find many with my exact problem that have had it remedied, I have seen far worse cases get fixed and I know I could have it much worse than I do. The support from everyone here has carried me through thus far!
Allie.06 19 Apr 2013
I'm unsure of where you live but my surgeon that I used also has an office in Santa Rosa, CA. His name is dr chernoff and he is triple board certified. I'm yet to see work of his that I did not like.
Miss.K 19 Apr 2013
Thank you so much! I would love to look into him. I am willing to travel anywhere in CA to start off and then travel further than that if I have to. I appreciate the info :)
Rockingritu 1 Apr 2013
I'm so sorry that you have to go through all this, I myself am going through a hard time after my primary has left me with a crooked and upturned nose, I am 3 months post op, until 1 month post op it was the overly upturned nose that was driving me crazy, but that was not enough, now it is crooked as well. I cant even go to see my PS as he stays in a far off city, I need to plan out, take leaves from work to visit him. but one thing is clear, he was over confident and talked as if he is gonna do a wonderful job and what he has done is horrible .there hasn't been a single day since my cast came off that I felt happy, I cry every now and then, and hardly get sleep. but I would say 1 thing, the reflection what mirror shows is different than the reflection that human eyes see, and what camera shows is much more different than that. So there is a possibility that to other's eyes it does not look as bad as you see it in mirror and pictures. just think of me and you will feel to be at a better place, I badly need revision, but cant get it, as in India we hardly have good surgeons for Rhino, and I don't have money to fly overseas and get it done. I just wish somewhere down the line, I have enough finance to get it done by a revision specialist. I am going through a bad depression, and have decided to seek therapy, lets see how much it helps. I wish you luck with your search for revision Surgeon, may you end up with results that make you really happy.!! (((Hugsssss)))
Miss.K 2 Apr 2013
Oh no! I am so sorry, Rockingritu.... It just really turns my stomach how many of us there are going through this. I guess it is true that rhinoplasty is a difficult surgery and maybe some of us were in some inexperienced hands or just some really difficult cases. It is a shame to have to deal with being dissatisfied with the CENTER of our faces.... even if other people don't notice, it makes me insecure and affects how I carry myself. It is hard to look people in the eye. I truly hope that you can have your revision done, and that you will be happy with the outcome! I, too, have to wait and save. Thank you so much for your insight about mirrors and cameras! It really does help to hear that. Although it does not make me feel better to know that others are suffering, I do find some comfort that we can all reach out to each other..... if we had to go through this anyway, at least we can support each other. Thank you once again for your kind words, and for reading! Best wishes!!
jer216 1 Apr 2013
I'm so sorry this happened. And that the surgeon just basically blew you off when the results didnt turn out well. I imagine it has been physically and emotionally draining. I wish you luck in your search for a revision surgeon!!
Miss.K 2 Apr 2013
Thank you, jer216! I sure hope the second time around is the last time, for my own sanity's sake! Thank you for reading :)
Faith2012 (RealFriend) 30 Mar 2013
I'm sorry Miss.K, I know how difficult this is. This has been the worse year of my life and I know how you're feeling. The truth is that there's not a lot you can do about it except to try and keep busy. I also try to remind myself that some others have it worse than me. What makes this hard, at least for me, is that I don't have anyone to talk to about this as we seem to pretend like it never happened. My family has never said that it looks good or bad as I think they feel bad for me and don't want to bring it up. The only thing anyone has ever said to me, was my sister apoligized and asked for forgiveness if she ever said anything to me growing up which caused me to believe that I needed plastic surgery. I'm sure she thinks I was crazy for doing this and was trying to figure out what led me to do it. So I go on keeping it all to myself with only Realself and other sites to go to read about others who are going through something similiar. Feel free to pm anytime you need someone to talk to.
Miss.K 1 Apr 2013
Thank you, Faith. Yes, I too try to remind myself, it could be so much worse. I come across photos in my quest for a revision surgeon and it is just heart wrenching what others are going through. My biggest fear of course is making another bad move and looking like a complete disaster. The second surgery just HAS to be the last for me. I just think of how I would feel if I end up even worse off, I truly don't even know what I would do. It is hard to think about. I have online people to talk to about it and I talk to my family members.... they are quite nice about it and tell me I am blowing it so far out of proportion. A few of them say it is an improvement nonetheless, and the other half say they wouldn't have noticed anything was done. I guess therein lies my issue, my nose still looks broken. It is just all emotionally tolling. Thank you for being such a great support, Faith! I am here for you, as well :)
ANune2012 29 Mar 2013
Have you looked into the "revision rhinoplasty" section of this website? I'm sure you could find lots of info there

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