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Risk too great-The Nose Makes the Face - Washington, DC

UPDATED FROM Peonia
11 months post

Had my 2nd Revision

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Hey everyone! I had my 2nd revision with Dr. Grigoryants. Please check out my review here:
http://www.realself.com/review/md-revision-rhinoplasty-revision-journey

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Houtan Chaboki, MD

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December 1, 2014
Wow!! Peonia! This is amazing. I just found you in revision section and I'm thrilled for you. Yay!!!! Omg. It's finally behind you. Amazing.
December 2, 2014
Thank you! While its already a big improvement, I still have yet to see the final results, I am still very swollen so I will keep you all posted!
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December 1, 2014
Don you have pics?
December 6, 2014
Is he the doctor in California? Hope all went well and you are happy. :)
December 7, 2014
I wish you the best of luck, but you had way too many surgeries in much too short a time, I'm shocked that the doctors were willing to perform these surgeries!
December 9, 2014
true, I wouldn't have wanted to have 3 surgeries 6 months apart, but circumstances made it necessary and surgeons who saw me agreed that something like a bone that was unevenly shaved wouldn't improve with time. The nose is operable after 6 months, but most prefer to wait a year because the tip still holds that last bit of swelling. Either way, I wouldn't recommend it to others. I'd especially tell folks not to go back to the same surgeon for a 2nd procedure if things went wrong the first time.
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December 9, 2014
Great advice. And Dr Grig... Has always been my favorite for his reviews and results, though I seriously hope to never need to fly down and meet him : /
December 9, 2014
The reason it's so important to wait is not with the hope that things will improve over time, but because the tissues are not fully healed from the first trauma, so introducing another trauma is well.. overly traumatic! And can create unexpected results. Agree on not going back to the same surgeon for the 2nd procedure!
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February 11, 2015
How is it going now i'm doing my big nostrils plus take a small nose bone i won't lift it because i heard horrors of looking piggy. I hope you are doing better now. I will check your new review.
UPDATED FROM Peonia
9 months post

Revision Consults Done

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Hi Guys!

Consults are done :)
I have a residual hump/unevenly shaved bridge, a droopy columella, my tip is slanted to the right, and I have shadows from my fracture lines. This has been confirmed by the Drs I consulted. I have consulted with a total of 6 doctors either in person or by phone+email.

To correct what I had said previously at one point, I don't have an inverted V deformity. Just an unevenly shaved bridge. My alas did go up, by they are not considered "notched" and are "within reasonable distance". Reducing tip size can bring them up, that's just a trade-off with rhinoplasty. I do have a droopy columella though, which makes them look worse, so once that is fixed it will look much better.

I have spent a ridiculous amount of time educating myself on rhinoplasty and know that I am taking a risk yet again. Please do the same before going in for your primary because a revision is just so much more complicated and more expensive. Please choose a reputable surgeon with many reviews by actual patients.

I just booked my revision surgery. I hope and pray that my gut has guided me to the right surgeon. I won't post who I chose until the surgery is done. I will write and post pictures once the cast is off in a few months :) Wish me luck!!!

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September 12, 2014
All the best to you. I hope you get the nose you desire. Thanks for the update.
September 15, 2014
Thanks Zooster for your continued support! xo
September 13, 2014
Sorry to hear you're still not satisfied with the results. I hope the next one will give you more satisfying results!
September 15, 2014
Thank you! I hope so too!
September 13, 2014
I'm sorry you have had such a hard time of this, awful to go through! Your original nose was very pretty and it's still pretty now. I hope you are able to get your breathing problems resolved, good luck!
September 15, 2014
Thank you, you are so kind!
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September 15, 2014
I am so sorry you had to go through this. I glanced on the doctors page & even with your honest review - he still has 5 stars. I'm beginning to think this whole rating/review thing is a scam.
September 15, 2014
Yeah, I chose my surgeon based on all the good reviews :( I think you have to do a lot of research before choosing and make sure the reviews have pictures.
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October 3, 2014
Don't trust the stars. They're stupid. You can read and research. You don't need a computer program to reduce it all into a little yellow icon for you.
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October 3, 2014
Just found you. Great posts. I'm still doing initial consults and research. You made me think twice. But truth is, I do really dislike my nose. I believe, as you did, that I will not need a revision. I tell myself I'll be happy with any decrease in my bump. But the truth is I want a nice nose. With no depressions. With no hardness. That looks fine in bright light. Argh. I just don't know. I've had this beak for 40 years. Maybe I should just keep it and care less.
October 9, 2014
Please do extensive research before you pick a surgeon. I understand how you feel because I've disliked my nose since I was a teenager and a rhinoplasty can improve your look if you pick the right surgeon.
UPDATED FROM Peonia
7 months post

Did a video comparison

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Today was very emotional for me. I took some pictures and the dent in the nose is back completely..started crying in the car. It helps that some of the bony portion was filed down, so it doesn't look nearly as bad, but still enough to make me avoid pictures and to be self conscious of my profile around people (more so than pre-op, ha!) :( My alar retraction/droopy columella has gotten worse. The dent and retraction show more on my left side than my right. Yay for an asymmetrical nose. My left side was always my worse side. I think that may be part of the problem too...the bone needs to be filed down on one side more than the other. Overall, I now do regret getting the revision. It should have been a pretty simple fix, most Drs I've emailed/met have told me so. But I think if your problem post-rhinoplasty is not simply a "touch-up" to improve overall results ESPECIALLY if it's a tip problem you shouldn't get it fixed with the same surgeon. Just don't. Save up and find another surgeon.

I emailed my Dr. telling him I was really upset and he called and left a VM and replied to my email saying he gets upset when one of his patients is upset, which is really nice of him. I think a lot surgeons just flip on you and lose that positive attitude once you tell them you're unhappy. But again I still have this problem that is my nose and it's taking a toll on my emotional well-being.

I took a video today and compared it to one pre-op. I *think* my tip looks better. Yay for something positive. I say *think* because I still don't like how it looks under certain lighting. My nose was more of an /\ shape and now it's a || shape, but my nose is too long for an || shape. I'm still not sure if I will have it shortened. Also, it took a REALLY long time for my brain to adjust to the new tip. Probably because the swelling was out of control in the beginning. There is still something weird about the dome-binding technique that I don't like. It looks strange under certain lighting. Honestly, comparing the videos, I don't know how no one noticed, but I realize now that most people don't memorize what your features look like, and unless you go from a big nose to a little nose, they won't even notice you had anything done.

I also realize how I have so few videos of myself pre-op. Like maybe 5 total. I did take a lot of pictures but it's not the same. It's so much easier to see the difference via video.

If you plan on getting an operation make sure you take some videos of yourself and under different lighting too.

Just overall I have very conflicting, confusing feelings. The love/hate relationship I had with my face is very confusing for me. The operation definitely negatively impacted my self-perception and brought to surface a lot of insecurities. There is a reason that I hated people taking candid photos of me, yet at the same time, I was pretty confident overall, felt pretty a lot of times, got complimented often, never had a problem dating etc...It's almost a schizophrenic self-image. I still can't wrap my head around it.

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July 26, 2014
Hey, how are you? I feel for u every time I read an update & just wanted to send some love your way. I hope you find the best solution to your dilemma but in the meantime I do hope u retain some of that brilliant confidence that u had even pre surgery. Life is short and as u said u were already pretty & complimented anyway. So I hope that carries u through this time until you can realize your ultimate dream. :),, peace to u
July 27, 2014
Thank you so mjuch kpeton. I really appreciate it. Frankly, this is my only venue to talk about this freely. I post a lot but its almost like my private diary with all these amazing people helping me keep my spirits up. The support has been much needed. My family and friends can't relate to what I'm going through.
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July 29, 2014
Hi Peonia! I'm really glad you posted your experience - I too had a nose job that I wasn't too happy with. I actually needed to correct a deviated septum but also wanted the tip refined a little. Well, I got pretty much what I asked for but even that little, subtle change at the tip caused me immense amounts of grief since it turn out to be all that flattering in my opinion. And like you, no one even noticed I had anything done, but that didn't stop me from obsessing about it constantly (and I still kind of do two years later)! I think one thing that most of us don't consider when we go in for that "little improvement" here and there is the emotional toll it will take on our psyche when it doesn't turn out well - even if no one else notices that we had anything done. It's draining! Anyway, I just wanted to send some positivity your way and let you know that there is yet one more person out here who knows and understands what you're feeling. I hope you find a solution that you are comfortable with and that makes you happy!
July 31, 2014
Thank you so much for your message. It really helps to hear from others because when I talk to my family and friends about it they think its crazy that its affecting me so much since they can't tell a difference. They can't relate at all. But yes the emotional toll is devastating and draining. Thank you for your support! Sending love and positive energy back your way!!! xo
August 14, 2014
Just wondering how your consults went at Johns Hopkins and in Michigan, and what decision you made. Hope you had positive experiences. :)
August 14, 2014
Hi! Thanks for checking in. I had my consult at Johns Hopkins which went well. My consult in Michigan got pushed back till September. I am going to start a new thread for my revision.
August 14, 2014
Hi penoia. Which doctors did you consult with?
August 14, 2014
I consulted with Dr. Boahene. I have a consult with Dr. Zuliani in Sept. Will keep you posted
August 18, 2014
You look great. Trust it. Stop messing with yourself! You are causing yourself such pain ...
August 18, 2014
I am not messing with myself dear, I went in for an improvement walked out with a worse looking nose that has made my year absolutely miserable. I am looking to FIX the mistakes that were done to my nose.
August 18, 2014
Ok. Just my opinion that your nose looks great.
August 19, 2014
Thanks I appreciate it
August 19, 2014
I just don't consider an unevenly shaved bridge and nostril retraction a great looking nose...I don't think anyone else would be happy this was done to their nose either.
August 20, 2014
I think your before nose was perfect, but I know sometimes we see little flaws that bother us. Your after looks good too but can see the few things you are talking about. With the amount of money ut costs you should be thrilled.