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My Journey to Revision Rhinoplasty

UPDATED FROM RevisionDone
10 months post

Beverly Hills Consultation

RevisionDone
$14,999
I visited Dr. Frankel because I was going to be in LA anyway for different reasons so I thought I might give him a shot.

The consultation went well overall but I felt a tiny bit rushed because he was running behind on schedule and there was still someone after me.

By my conversation with him I did notice that he was extremely knowledgeable because he easily pointed out the deformities that I had and some internal mess ups to his fellow.

I really loved the frontal view he simulated for me but did not like the profile view. He wanted to raise my bridge too much and project my nose and make it pointy.

For this reason I dont think I would chose this doctor. It is important that the doctor agrees to do what you want on your nose and not force his aesthetics on you.

Besides that, he was also the most expensive out of all the doctors I have consulted with.

I would recommend this doctor to anyone that likes high bridges and projected/pointy noses. He is very talented and knows what he is doing.

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October 18, 2015
Thank you for doing these series of revision rhinoplasty specialist consultations. I'm in a similar situation so they are super helpful :)
March 14, 2016
Hi did you end up having surgery? Who did you decide to go with?
May 13, 2016
Update? :)
February 11, 2017
have you decided yet? i am near Baltimore and curious as to your update since my revision is solely focusing on lengthening. and getting back to big old nose. i anxiously await your update
February 17, 2017
Did you have Fevi doors?
February 17, 2017
Havevtevision?
February 18, 2017
Did you have ***revision??? Not sure where the doors comment came from! Sorry!
UPDATED FROM RevisionDone
4 months pre

Baltimore consultations

RevisionDone
Hello, so I went to Baltimore to have the consultations with the doctors there, I am stuck now between two of them so if you guys have any input or suggestions I will be glad to hear them via PM or as a Comment to this forum.

I will just go in order of appearance:

August 27 I saw the much anticipated Dr. Boahene.

We had e-mailed back and fourth for a long time so he was familiar with my case (very important). What I really like about him is that he is an ethical doctor and I have found it really hard to find unhappy patients. He is also open to giving you the nose YOU want, not a cookie cutter nose. What I didn't like is he didn't show me pictures of other patients and also I didn't like that he only allowed me to pick to fix three things... Id like everything fixed not just three things. But I trust that he can definitely improve my nose. I also did not like the morph he did of my profile and also he forgot to morph my front. I am convinced however that he would send me a morph of the front if I e-mailed him asking for one. He said most of the things I asked for were possible. 2/3

The surgery would last around 3 hours and cost around 11k (all included)


August 28 I saw two doctors

Since I was already in Baltimore I decided I might as well see Dr. Byrne because he wrote an article about how to make the nose wider with inside out lateral osteotomies.

Long story short... He said my nose did not look operated or overly small even tho I've had other doctors confirm that I have a pinched tip and inverted v deformity. I didn't even ask him to do a morph or for a price or anything. He said all he would do to my nose is make it minimally longer /derotated his wait time was ridiculous

On the same day I saw Dr. Le

This so far has been the most meticulous doctor. You can tell he really pays attention to what you say. What I don't like about this doctor is he mentioned multiple times that I shouldn't believe anything I see on the internet and that patients post lies about him and that one patient went to his office and was very violent toward him. I like that he really asks you about EVERYTHING about your nose and is willing to fix as much as possible. He also was open to showing me his previous patients so far he is the only doctor that has done that and that really helps. I really like his results that he showed me and I feel like he understands what I want and is willing to talk more about it. I'm still waiting on an e-mail he is supposed to send me. Another thing about him I didn't like was that he charges per 30 min so the consultation fee was really high because he takes his time (which is a good thing) apparently this is the reason he charges so much... Because he talks a lot so he spends a lot of time with one patient.

He said the surgery takes like 10 hours and would cost around 10k -15k

I'm really torn between these two doctors. I was thinking about seeing Dr. Davis but after inspecting his photos I feel like they all look the same so he might not be the doctor for me.

What do you guys think?

Have you heard anything good or bad about these doctors?


I totally understand that all doctors have BAD reviews no matter how skilled. It is still better to be well informed rather than not tho. Hope this revision journey is helpful to you guys. Looking forward to your comments!

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September 5, 2014
I will be following your posts. but curious to see who you end up choosing. I am in toronto, but I don't feel thrilled with anyone of my dr choices around here. Ihave a complicated revision that is needed. I don't want drs to get annoyed because you have questions. the one dr I was considering seems annoyed already and is really slow or does not reply on answeing questions, That is turn off for me because what if you need them after the surgery and no one is there to reply to you. I should do the same revision blog. who else have you conisidered? Will this nightmare ever be over/? I will be posint my expereince in the next couple of days close to my one year mark. it's been the worst year of my life. He stole my identity and promised it would be a finesse surgery. It's like all the surgeons really don't care and just want your money and then brush you off. The few that I have met the genuinely seem to care are all in USA. I did not want to have to travel, but I feel as though I am left with no choice. My family wants me to stay in canada. Any other good potentials on your list? how do you feel about Tioruimi, Shan, calvert//?? I have just read the most horrifying website about Dr. T and then saying Dr C was the one who fixed them all and now there is a site bashing Dr, C.! geeze had to trust anyone. Do you think you will conisder Davis? I really like Dr. Shah, He was able to show me pics of what he could from similar noses. He seems like that type of dr that will not rush and make sure things are perfect even if it means charging you extra, I need a dr that truly cares and truly wants to help. Are there any drs in NYC that you would consult with>?
September 5, 2014
If you don't feel like Canada has good doctors then it is better that you follow your gut and travel for surgery. I dont feel like there are any good doctors in Texas this is why I travelled to Baltimore to see those two. Yes, it is extremely important that the doctor be patient and answer all your questions. You are NOT a number, you are a person! It is literally your life on the line. I'm looking forward to your review! I will pray that this nightmare will be over for us and the many others suffering quietly. I can totally relate to having your identity stolen but trust me, it IS possible to get at least some of your identity back! I would totally consult with Dr. T if I had the money. I have consulted with Dr. Shah online and dont feel like he is skilled enough for my particular case. He told me he can make my nose longer but said it is not possible to make it wider. I find it unethical on his part to have a tutorial on how to make a nose wider on his website and then say it's not possible.. of course it is! I LOVE his aesthetic but I idont believe he is skilled enough for my case in particular. I think a lot of the bashing of Dr. T is mosty disagreement in the aesthetics of the nose. It seems he likes wider and longer noses so if that is not the style you want then he is not your doctor. In my early research, I was considering Dr. Calvert but I just get a bad vibe from Beverlyhills doctors... like they are in it for the money. Apparently Dr. Calvert was sued for performing unwanted procedues on a patient and charging the insurance... big red flag for me! In NY I would see Dr. Guida and Dr. Pearlman (Pearlman seems good at correcting pinched noses!) Only if I HAD to pick a doctor in NY... It really depends on what is wrong with your nose. What are the problems with your nose?
September 9, 2014
Hi RozeRoze, Thank you so much for writing about your consultation experiences. We are considering the ssame surgeons and some of our issues are similar as I have an inverted v and a pinched tip too. I've had consultations with guyuron, Shah and Boahene and telephone consult whit Gruber ( I ruled him out due to his age and also the fact that there's a strong possibility that I might need rib cartilage). I really liked Boahene, he came across as a very caring considerate surgeon. However like you I was really disappointed that the only photos he showed me were from his website (which I had already seen) and I specifically asked to see examples of rib revisions. I would really like to hear from more revision patients of his. I know zooster had a good experience but I think her case was quite different. I really liked Shah also and he showed alot of photos - he had a massive gallery of them on his computer. They all looked really natural but I forgot to ask to see rib revisions specifically.
September 16, 2014
I will see boahene soon, and I feel that the photos on his website do not really show much of what I will be needing so let's see how the consultation goes. because I think it's really important to see examples similar procedures just so that you know what his results with similar ones as your own.
September 14, 2014
Hi everyone, thanks for your posts here. I also am considering Boahene and Le for revision (reconstruction) #2 and am meeting with them in mid-October. I'll post again after my consults. I am also meeting with Frankel, Solieman & Litner and Kridel before making a decision, although am leaning toward Boahene and Le at this point based on research and a gut feeling. I consulted with Calvert, Davis, Shah, Guyuron, Pearlman, Rizk and others prior to revision #1. Roze and Mango, PM me if you want to exchange information or form a support group:( This is a miserable and utterly traumatizing process that feels like a living nightmare all day every day. I too am desperate to see a familiar face again. I pray that we all find healing and a solution to this unthinkable dilemma.
September 15, 2014
Hey NewYork! I will inbox you for sure! Need all the information and support :) the good thing is that with so much research our next surgery will surely be successful !
December 19, 2014
Hi ladies, Can I get in on your support group? I had a rhinoplasty 4 1/2 years ago and am diligently looking for a revision specialist! I am in Michigan and have considered Davis but when I called the office they are booked for up to 1 year just for consultation! I am sooo ready to get my surgery done within the next 6 months. Any advice on your consults would be extremely beneficial!!
March 1, 2017
Did you have revision??
June 4, 2017
@newyork65557 you and are similarly situated with our revision needs. Did you get revision yet?
June 8, 2017
@chelsita did you have revision?
October 4, 2014
You should meet with Dr Frankel in Los Angeles! I had a revision and while my nose is not perfect it's about as close as I could have expected and am so relieved to finally have my life back. Sorry for your situation, I know how horrible that is :(
October 4, 2014
Hi Allyson - thanks for posting and I'm glad you had a good experience with Frankel. Would you mind sharing what your issues were and what things he wasn't able to correct with the revision? I need my nose almost completely rebuilt with extensive tip work, bridge height added and a bump added back. I'm seeing Frankel next week so interested in any tips or insights you have. Thanks so much!
November 16, 2014
Hi Allyson, thank you for sharing your experience, you should consider making a review :) if I lived in Cali I would defiantly visit Frankel I can tell he is very experienced with rib surgery. My only concern would be if he would pay as close attention to my case as a non Beverlyhills doctor.
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November 14, 2014
Hi Roze, It's been almost 3 months since you last update and I was wondering how it's going on your journey, I hope that everything is fine, also I want it to ask if you have any opinion about Dr Andrew Frankel from Beverly Hills CA, I read just good opinions about him on the net but you can never been 100% sure on these things, wish you the best, greetings.
November 16, 2014
Hi Edanh, I have not consulted with Andrew Frankel personally but if I had to pic just one Beverllyhills doctor to visit it would be him. I think the reason why some people don't like him is because of his aesthetics. Dr. Frankel likes strong noses and that the look I like too but it's not for everyone. He is experienced in revision rhinoplasty for sure my only concern with him would be that maybe he won't spend as much time studying your particular case because he IS a Beverlyhills doctor but I could be wrong! I'd need to consult with him to make a good judgement but I don't think I will because I feel good about Dr. Le.
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November 17, 2014
Thanks a lot for the answer, in fact I feel we are looking for the same result in terms of noses, and are so few those who seem to be available to do it, either for experience or aesthetics preferences , so is very hard to decide who is the one, anyway I have a similar feeling about Dr Frankel so perhaps I should think better about him. finally, You already decide it to go with Dr Le?
September 24, 2015
I actually got a chance to consult with Dr. Frankel. I will make an update with my experience soon
UPDATED FROM RevisionDone
6 months pre

Good News!

RevisionDone
I'm excited to say that I am going to see (for sure) Dr. Kofi Boahene, Thomas Le and Patrick Byrne in Maryland (and going to take advantage of the trip and visit NY for the first time!) the flight tickets have been bought!

So far Boahene is my favorite because he is so accessible. I have not met him in person yet but he knows my story because we have been e/mailing back and fourth.

At first I didn't consider Thomas Le even though I wanted to because his consultation fee is $300. But after talking to some of his patients I have decided he is worth at least a consult.


I am considering canceling the appointment with Dr. Byrne because I heard he rushes the patient during consultation. I also heard he is always running late because he is so over worked. I think I would be afraid to have surgery with a doctor who has too many patients. How would he remember my needs and aesthetics? (Which are very different from the norm)

I was seeing a local doctor his name is Adam Weinfield but have crossed him off my list because he avoids showing me pictures. His excuse "no two noses are the same". Since this is a revision, I am not going to risk going to a doctor who won't provide examples or do imaging. No matter how skillful.


Also another note: I was considering Dr. Cochran in Dallas because he trained under Dr. Gunter who was the best rhinoplasty surgeon of his time. I am going to cancel the appointment with him because of horror stories I've heard from very unhappy patients. Plus, he is NOT a board certified facial plastic surgeon... This makes him under qualified for the job. I never really liked the noses on his website (I did love Gunter noses though!)


I will be updating you guys late August or early September about how my actual consultations went.

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July 18, 2014
Thank you so much for this post! I am seeing Dr. Boahene in a couple of months, I spoke to one of his patients and she´s been great giving me info, her impressions, her satisfaction. I identify with you except my nose is wide and I have wide skin, but the rest is the same. I too wanted and actually needed just minimal work instead I got a botched job done. So I need nose augmentation, reshaping, the 1st Dr. completely changed my nose and it was so horrible ;(, I want to try to go back to my old nose but thinner, so hopefully it will be ok. So far in my mind I have Dr. Boahene, and Paul Nassif. I will check out Thomas T. Le. If anyone has comments about the Nassif and Thomas Le please do tell! Warm wishes! Please keep us posted!
September 5, 2014
After looking at Nassif's before and afters and really analyzing his techniques I really don't think he is a skilled doctor. He can probably improve your nose but not as much as another doctor like Boahene or Le can. For example. For dorsal augmentation Nassif uses the "burrito" method which means he dices cartilage, rolls it up in fascia tissue and slides it into your nose and molds it. Boahene and Le actually take the time to carve a cartilage graft specially for you. I think burrito method gives you a hot dog look to the nose. If you want to check out a revision doctor in Beverlyhills try Andrew Frankel. Most Beverlyhills doctors are advertising.