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Disappointing cosmetic outcome and equally dissapointing treatment from surgeon
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Here are the photos of my results after primary...
PepeTheFrenchFrogJuly 26, 2016
Here are the photos of my results after primary rhinoplasty. I have previously posted these on another account but deleted that as i want to keep my doctors name annonymous. I have been left with an open roof deformity, inverted v deformity, the sides of my nasal bones protruding out forming humps, a knot in my scar, a deviated septum and a crooked tip (that is not visible on the photos as these photos were taken 4 months ago when it was still very swollen. The tip and the deviation are only recently becoming apparent so when i am feeling brave i will take more photos of it and post them, at the moment though i am to upset to do so). If anyone has any info about any revision specialists in the Uk then please let me know. I am absolutely devastated by the result and i need it fixing with someone who i can trust because i can't go on living like this!
Replies (6)
July 27, 2016
Thank you for sharing your experience. I saw j Rowe - Jones today to consider revision myself. As an exclusively rhinoplasty expert he certainly seemed to have a good grasp on how to correct errors ( and I have a few!). It was all well explained to me. I think I also saw a review saying a Chris East in Harley Street is very good. I do hope you find the help and support you need.
July 27, 2016
I'm so sorry that you're unhappy with your results, a surgeon needs to be really skilled to perform a good rhinoplasty unless the change is so minimal that a GP could do it! I've just had revision rhinoplasty with lucian ion and mine was a complex revision. So far its looking really good, but Im only 3 weeks out and still pretty swollen. At this point though I would strongly recommend him, I have almost perfect symmetry, nose centrally aligned and columella stitched to perfection. I paid 8350 for my revision, so he is pricey, but wasnt going to let price be a factor over finding the right surgeon. This is my third time round, it had to be my last! He is very honest and will tell you if he's confident about fixing your issues or not. He might not be the chattiest of surgeons but he's highly skilled and really cares abt getting right outcome for u which matters most. I've done the "oh he's so nice and friendly and saying all the right things" surgeon and ended up in a mess. Dont be charmed by those guys! Best of luck with it all...
July 27, 2016
Having now had four nose surgeries (one septoplasty resulting in a saddle nose deformity plus 3 rhino/septorhinoplasties), I really do feel for you. My advice would be to make absolutely certain that your surgeon is a specialist in Rhinoplasty; there are masters and there are dabblers. Make sure you have a good rapport with your surgeon and ask to see before and after photos of revision cases.
Personally speaking, due to the complexity of my case, I wanted somebody who exclusively operates on noses, experienced in complex revisions.
Although it was a bit daunting to consider going overseas for surgery, based on my research and my impressions of him at consulation, I decided to have operation #4 with Professor Palma in Milan. I'm several weeks out from surgery and very happy so far. All the best to you in finding the right surgeon and finally getting a good result.
Personally speaking, due to the complexity of my case, I wanted somebody who exclusively operates on noses, experienced in complex revisions.
Although it was a bit daunting to consider going overseas for surgery, based on my research and my impressions of him at consulation, I decided to have operation #4 with Professor Palma in Milan. I'm several weeks out from surgery and very happy so far. All the best to you in finding the right surgeon and finally getting a good result.
UPDATED FROM PepeTheFrenchFrog
Nostril retraction on top of all my other cosmetic problems.. and an infection!
PepeTheFrenchFrogJuly 30, 2016
I have seen numerous revision surgeons for second opinions and consultations about fillers and possible revision surgery, and all of them have commented on what a mess my nose is. Not only do i have an open roof deformity, humps, a wonky front profit, a bumpy side profile, a middle valve collapse, a deviated septum and a knot in my columella, but all these surgeons have noticed that my nostrils are retracting and that the tip seems to be twisting. My surgeon messed me up good and proper! I have been told the tip, nostril retraction and collapse will most likely get worse, and the open roof may start to get dented (where there are gaps between the bones, i can already see this happening). I am so depressed. I have also had inflammation and soreness by the columella for a few months, and i did book an appointment to see my surgeon about this as i was worried. However, when he saw i had posted pictures of my nose on this website, along with a short paragraph explaining how unhappy i was and how disappointed i was with how he was dealing with it, HE CANCELLED MY APPOINTMENT AND REFUSED TO LET ME BACK THROUGH THE DOOR! The inflammation eased off slightly so i tried not to worry, but it turns out it was an infection and because he refused to see me, its been left for a while. Luckily it doesn't seem to have done any lasting damage and will hopefully clear up with treatment. It would have helped if he had been professional and seen me when i noticed the problem and not been petty over some unattractive pictures of my nose on a review site (which he actually told me to post, back then he thought the results were good!), but i'm not surprised he acted like that after how he treated me during aftercare. He was so nice before surgery i can't believe he did a complete 360 on me once i started noticing problems.
Anyway, any tips for protecting your nose from future infections would be great. And any positive stories about revision or HA fillers would lift my spirits a bit.
Signed, severely depressed peacock
Anyway, any tips for protecting your nose from future infections would be great. And any positive stories about revision or HA fillers would lift my spirits a bit.
Signed, severely depressed peacock
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July 30, 2016
So sorry to hear about your surgery. Your doctor's lack of aftercare is so unprofessional. I really don't understand his cancelling your appt. because you did not even mention his name on your review. Do not let him do a revision even if it's free. You need a great revision doctor. Good luck I really do feel so bad that you are going through all of this.
July 30, 2016
I heard dr swartout and dr Ben talei in Beverly Hills are really good .
August 4, 2016
I'd love to travel to beverly hills to get it done but my health won't allow it right now. I may consider them in the future! thanks for the reccomendation!
July 30, 2016
Hi there I've recently had rhino surgery in the UK and so pleased with the doctor, very professional and his work was with such precision I can't recommend him enough. I read that you are looking for someone in the UK please do look him up Maurizio Persico. I was treated in Manchester. I have also read reviews of his work on here and people have rated him 5 stars.
Best of luck to you.
Best of luck to you.
August 4, 2016
Thank you for the suggestion, i will have a look into him. I'm glad it went well for you, happy healing! <3 [RS bleep]

July 31, 2016
you should not have deleted your post on his site! you need to warn others! what a rude doctor i hope you find a good revision doc!!!
August 4, 2016
He really does scare me, when i posted my first review he cancelled my appointment (which i was going to because i had inflammation.. i later found out it was an infection) and i was told i was not welcome back. I panicked and sent him an email saying i would remove the review (as i needed this infection checking out), although i am disappointed as i thought he welcomed all opinions onto his real self page (he was the one that told me to use it in the first place when he thought everything was going well!). He then sent me one back basically saying it hadn't been truthful as i had had improvement in my tip (it has since twisted and bent so i disagree with that..) however in my review i focused on the fact i had an open roof, collapse and deviation (to me, those are the important things as they make or break a nose!). I realised at that point that he would never admit my open roof or other problems, and that it was a lost cause. So i sent him an email telling him to stop contacting me, and he sent one back with threats saying that i was guilty of all sorts (i know for a fact that i am not, as my parents are solicitors!). It was threats to get me to not republish. However i am a young disabled girl who has no money and is very depressed with the whole situation as it is, so i don't want him carrying out any of his threats as mentally and physically i could not cope with it. He scares me so much that i do not wish to say his name on here in case he finds it or in case it affects him negatively in any way. I hope you understand <3
August 4, 2016
I feel like i should add, at one point he booked me in for revision, however that 'revision' i later found out would have made my nose a whole lot worse. He wanted to shave more away whereas i was actually told by about 6 other surgeons that i need grafts and my nose building up, not more taken away. I also needed septoplasty, nasal grafts, spreader grafts, breaking of bones and more. So his 'revision' would have been a botch job just to hide the edges of my nasal bones, probably making it look worse. I'm glad i didn't go through with it!

August 4, 2016
Ooh I understand! Damn what an evil doctor!!! God will take care of him! Much luck to you!
August 4, 2016
He certainly wasn't very nice to me and a fair few others i have spoken :( sad thing is he seems to get away with no bad reviews to show for it, its all 5stars on here! I just wish it wasn't so easy to manipulate patients to take down reviews, nobody takes that into consideration when searching for surgeons on here because you assume they are all decent people that wouldn't do that sort of thing! Thank you lovely [RS bleep]

July 31, 2016
So sorry to hear what has happened to you. You only sought to improve your appearance and now you're suffering physically and emotionally because of the 'surgeon's' poor work. Also, as great as this site is, i don't think we can really trust the "Worth It" and star ratings because in general, if a patient gives the surgeon a low rating and states his/her true negative feelings, it is done at his/her own peril. Just like you tried to inform the community before but then your jerk doctor saw you and wouldn't even let you in the door. I think the vast majority of people with negative results don't even share their reviews for fear of some sort of retribution by the doctor. I really feel for you. Best of luck in your revision. Hang in there. :)
August 4, 2016
I completely agree with your comment, it is done at the patient own risk. I know a few other people who their surgeons threatened them or refuse a fix to get them to remove their bad reviews. Of course it doesn't happen to all as some surgeons welcome varying opinions to give people an honest view of their capabilities, but others i know for a fact do not like bad reviews on their account at all. Its frustrating as it gives people a biased view of their work and their capabilities, as well as their aftercare. Thank you for your well wishes, i will keep you updated xxxx
UPDATED FROM PepeTheFrenchFrog
Acceptance
PepeTheFrenchFrogAugust 17, 2016
It appears that acceptance comes at about 6-10months post op after a bad rhinoplasty. I am 9 nearly 10 months now, and am 4 months away from being able to get this fixed (yippee!). Over the past few months i have started to accept what has happened and embrace myself flaws and all.. even if some of those flaws did come from a horrendous time in my life. I have been through a horrible ordeal, the man i trusted to do my 'life changing' operation failed his duty of care, and left me deformed and thousands of pounds short. I will have spent £15,000 on my nose by the time this is fixed (as long as my second op is my last), and although that seems like a lot, i will spend whatever it takes to set it right. I am lucky that i can even afford to have it fixed. Although i did not get my money back from my botched operation, although i have been left emotionally scarred, physically messed up and unable to completely trust any medical professional ever again.. i survived. And it will be fixed soon enough.
It is extremely unfair that my surgeon sent me threats too keep me from reviewing on this site or mentioning his name (considering he actually told me to use it in the first place, its a bit rich..) and i also find it unfair that i did not get my money back (the man scared me so much i didn't even ask, but i guarantee he wouldn't). I find it unfair that i don't get to have my bad review displayed in amongst all the 'good' reviews (the bad reviews tend to disappear like mine or they stay behind the scenes, this is also unfair). I find it unfair that he left me like this. I find it unfair that he ignored my infection by cancelling my appointment and i find it unfair that he accused all the other surgeons of lying about my issues and called me names at my follow ups. But slowly i am learning to accept that he, in my opinion, is not a very nice man, and that considering none of the 'botches' seem to get their say on here, how was i too know? It wasn't my fault, none of this was my fault. I fell into the trap. I was unlucky enough to meet him on my journey through life. And i will get fixed, get over it and heal eventually. I am beautiful no matter what he did to my face. I am more than just my nose!
If anyone is going through anything similar, please contact me and i will listen and try and help you out as best i can. If you are in the UK, there is a man called Norman Wright based in nottigham (and possibly harley street london although I'm not 100% on this) who runs a PAPPS initative designed for patients going through or coming out of cosmetic surgery. I strongly urge you to contact him and have him help you on your journey if you are struggling.
It is extremely unfair that my surgeon sent me threats too keep me from reviewing on this site or mentioning his name (considering he actually told me to use it in the first place, its a bit rich..) and i also find it unfair that i did not get my money back (the man scared me so much i didn't even ask, but i guarantee he wouldn't). I find it unfair that i don't get to have my bad review displayed in amongst all the 'good' reviews (the bad reviews tend to disappear like mine or they stay behind the scenes, this is also unfair). I find it unfair that he left me like this. I find it unfair that he ignored my infection by cancelling my appointment and i find it unfair that he accused all the other surgeons of lying about my issues and called me names at my follow ups. But slowly i am learning to accept that he, in my opinion, is not a very nice man, and that considering none of the 'botches' seem to get their say on here, how was i too know? It wasn't my fault, none of this was my fault. I fell into the trap. I was unlucky enough to meet him on my journey through life. And i will get fixed, get over it and heal eventually. I am beautiful no matter what he did to my face. I am more than just my nose!
If anyone is going through anything similar, please contact me and i will listen and try and help you out as best i can. If you are in the UK, there is a man called Norman Wright based in nottigham (and possibly harley street london although I'm not 100% on this) who runs a PAPPS initative designed for patients going through or coming out of cosmetic surgery. I strongly urge you to contact him and have him help you on your journey if you are struggling.
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August 17, 2016
August 17, 2016
Good for you and I really wish you the very best of luck, stay strong and positive :-) I felt so sad for you reading your story and I've smiled reading your recent post today!
Sending you happy thoughts :-)))
Sending you happy thoughts :-)))
August 22, 2016
Thank you so much, its been such a hard year but i am determined to make next year more positive. I have to be in the right frame of mind to undergo another surgery to fix this mess so i have to start treating myself better and accept what happened so i can move on! Your lovely message made me smile!
August 18, 2016
The emotional impact of a failed rhinoplasty can be devastating. And one of the most devastating causes is technical incompetence resulting in substandard surgery. Cosmetic surgical procedures, especially those performed on the nose, require expertise and experience. When I had my rhinoplasty done in Manila with Dr Rino Lorenzo, I made sure that I did my homework. I checked his website, visited his gallery and talked to previous patients for feedbacks. When I got a lot of positive remarks, then it was a go for me. The result is very nice. I'm glad that I did it.
August 22, 2016
Was the rhinoplasty you had with Dr Lorenzo your first? I did do a lot of research into the surgeon i choose, he's actually a 'top doctor' on here (probably because the bad reviews seem to disappear!). Sadly all my research was not enough, but i cannot blame myself because I'm not the only one who fell for it
August 18, 2016
Who did you decide to get your revision with. Good to see you have come to terms with what has happened somewhat. Nothing worse than making yourself feel isolate by something like this happening. Keep being positive!
August 22, 2016
I haven't 100% decided yet but i think its out of Lucian Ion and Julian De Silva (both based in the uk). It has been such a difficult journey and knowing i have to go through it all again with the possibility of a bad outcome makes me want to cry. But i'm getting there and seeing someone about the emotional side of it all which i am hoping will prepare me for the next surgery. I refuse to do anything that will make me sad anymore, so i no longer take photos of it or look in the mirror for too long. I also make sure i say something nice to myself every single day (instead of the usual 'not even surgery can make you pretty blah blah blah') and its really helping! I am determined to make this next surgery a positive experience and to do that i have to be in a good place! Thanks for your lovely comment [RS bleep]
Thank you for sharing your experience. I hope you find support in the community.
Hi, I've fixed it for you as per your private message to me. ☺