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Facelift with Dr. Arguello in Costa Rica -- 2/18/15

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I’m 58 years old and have always taken good care...

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I’m 58 years old and have always taken good care of myself with supplements, exercise and bio-identical hormones, which I started about 3 years after menopause. I feel like I’m in my twenties most of the time. The bod is 103 pounds of toned muscle.

When your mind tells you that you are still young and attractive, but the mirror tells you that you look like Mother Teresa..it’s time for a tuneup.

I’m not in a hurry for my overhaul. I plan on doing considerable research on the doctors I am interested in.
Last month, on the spur of the moment, I decided to make a 4 hr trek, alone… across Los Angeles and into the wild, wild west of Tijuana. By myself (mind you) to visit a facelift patient, Jenny (who I met on RealSelf) and her friend and to get a consultation from her surgeon, Dr. Alejandro Quiroz. At the time, Jenny was just 5 days out of surgery.

Tijuana is a scary place….chaos by design. Crumbling buildings mixed in with modern shops. Trash, graffiti, and street salesmen mixed with steaming street vents emitting a cacophony of sounds and smells. Even with car windows rolled up, the hawkers festoon your side view mirrors with gaudy wares, like bizarre Christmas ornaments.
Driving into Tijuana, you will take your life in your hands. No one bothers with lanes or signals, but your horn is essential. You merge into a roundabout while jockeying for position like a horse on the track. Here were my directions. Go past the “big scissors”. Go past the “big indian”. Go past “Abraham Lincoln”. Turn right at “the man on the horse”. (Actually, this all became quite obvious..but it would have helped to have someone riding shotgun to troubleshoot the traffic.) Street signs with actual names on them? Good luck. You will need it. By the time I arrived at Cosmed/Vida, I was needing a stiff drink.

Meeting Jenny and her friend was a wonderful experience. Jenny looks even better in person than in her photos on her RealSelf review. My first and immediate impression was that Dr. Quiroz did a wonderful job, even though these two very nice ladies were obviously attractive to begin with.

My consultation went well. Dr. Quiroz has a great bedside manner, which he has polished to perfection, and he is quite sweet and sincere. I liked him immediately. I was told I needed a neck and brow lift and mid-face, as well as some laser. I was not blessed with great skin and I have spent my life outdoors.
Back in again with Jenny- the recovery boutique is nice, with darkened rooms. I wanted to stay longer, and chat with my new friends, but my goal was to get back over the border before dark.

I ended up getting lost and not finding the “medical fast pass” lane, and was shunted into the regular traffic, forcing me to run the gauntlet of swarming hawkers to get back to the US., which took me 2 ½ hours. I do feel badly for these people and the poverty that is apparent. It must be an awfully hard, terrible way to make a living.

The border guard asked me, “what are you here for?” Me- a plastic surgery consultation. Guard- “what kind of surgery?” “facelift” “what will it cost?” Oh, about seven thousand dollars.” Guard- “is it worth it?”

Yes, I think so. I really think so.

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January 15, 2015
What do you do for bioidentical hormones? what method do you use? Do you do the wiley protocol? I am only 32 but in early menopause from postpartum complications and have physically prematurely aged thirty years! I'm looking into a ton of facial work and interested in finding out what hormone therapy works for others! My body won't absorb the transdermal estrogen anymore, hence the rapid aging. How do you keep your body toned while in menopause? Mine is all sagging.
January 15, 2015
I see Dr. Galitzer in Los Angeles (Suzanne Somer's Dr.) ..I've been perfectly balanced for the past 3 years. What I have learned about bio-identicals is that everyone is different! I have my own personal prescription for estrogen, progesterone and testosterone. I think Galitzer is fantastic! For toning- I work out every day, and two nights a week in the gym for spinning and boot camp...and hiking sometimes on the weekend.
January 15, 2015

Also I have just learned that the body stops absorbing bio-indenticals (for some people) due to toxicity in the liver. Some doctors will then prescribe higher doses when what really might be needed is to clean up one's diet and do a detox using either colonics or an ascorbic acid drink (vit.c) and R-lipoic acid capsules. see link: http://************

January 16, 2015
oh wow great information. Thank you!! :) I really appreciate it. Thank you for the link but it didn't come through.
January 16, 2015
looks like we are not allowed to post links, sorry! Maybe best to find an alternative health practitioner in your area.
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January 15, 2015

Thank you for starting your story on RealSelf! I love your description of your trip to Tijuana and I'm glad to hear you are doing lots of research. Please keep us posted!

January 16, 2015
Thanks Angie for the nice comments much appreciated!
January 17, 2015
I go to Tijuana , Mexico for surgery. I had a facelift and rhinoplasty with Dr. Andrey Shakhov both of them did not turn out well. The facelift had very little improvement. The rhinoplasty is uneven on the bridge. I redid the facelift a year later with Dr. Jaime Caloca it improved a lot but the nasolabial folds still exist. Dr. Jaime Caloca did the SMAS facelift with necklift and fat transfer to face. I have been reading about facelifts on the internet. It looks like the composite facelift gives the best results. If you google composite facelift, Dr. Sam Hamra in Texas does them they look pretty good but they are pricey for the full facelift. If you look on youtube the composite facelift video is on there so I sent it to Dr. Jaime Caloca he said he could do it and is giving me a discount so I might be redoing the facelift for a third time. I also got wide scars in the hair incisions. A video on youtube called "tricophytic closure" addresses scars in the hair. I also sent it to Dr. Jaime Caloca.
January 17, 2015
Thank you for your comments, I wish you the very best! I will look into the composite facelift.
January 18, 2015
lol
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February 9, 2015
Wow! It's hard to believe you're the same person with and without makeup. Take your time in making a decision! You definitely look better than you think. I understand the turkey neck. I'm 2 1/2 weeks post op.
February 9, 2015
I clean up good, but it's all smoke and mirrors....
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January 14, 2015
Good luck. The travel might be the worst of it.
January 15, 2015
We can only hope...thanks.
January 18, 2015
I think you are beautiful now, you will only look a better version of yourself. Good luck!
February 23, 2015
You are so Beautiful.
May 3, 2015
On this photo, I really cannot see anything that need to be fixed. A lot of people would love to look just like this. I know it is as one person said though........what WE SEE and how WE feel. All I can say is you went in beautiful and came out beautiful!!
October 2, 2015
Enjoyed your journey. I would like to see your pictures now, 7 months later.
I'm from San Diego and know your TJ contact. We call him Dr Q. But I'm very interested in Your Costa Rica Doctor. You are brave.... Linda
October 2, 2015
thanks much..very busy right now with work and other obligations, but will take more pics soon!
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1 month pre

thoughts for a Saturday morning

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Am now busy reading reviews. Or should I say, I’m addicted to reading reviews.

My approach is going to be to consult with a Doctor, to read reviews on that doctor (and to compile them, or at least develop an opinion based on reading multiple reviews), and to communicate with others who have had the same procedure by that doctor. I don’t know if I will have the time to be as comprehensive as I would like, but I will try.

Since I am a layperson, I really believe that it is unfair for me to pass judgement on a procedure. I don’t know what a correctly done procedure IS, at this point. So until I learn what a correctly done procedure is, I can only offer an opinion, or a visceral response. I am not sure how helpful that will be.

I am so thankful for this site, RealSelf. I had plastic surgery 20 years ago, have had breast implants and a rhinoplasty. I was danged lucky that I had good results. I don’t know if RealSelf was around then (was there even an internet?) It was difficult or near impossible to even get information. Plastic surgery back then (in the dark ages, when we wrote with quill pens and received information by carrier pigeon) seemed like so much more of a crapshoot.

I want to thank all the brave women on this site. We are all given only one body and one face during this lifetime. To entrust that body and that face, and sometimes even our LIVES to a surgeon (for an elective procedure) is not something to be taken lightly. I think all these courageous women who share so that others may benefit should be applauded and supported. No one should be discouraged, or be made to feel sorry they have offered. None of us profit from this, no one is paid for their stories.

I have read stories of hope, of excitement, of anticipation. Stories of preparation and study, and pain. Stories of joy and happiness, but also of anger, sadness, discouragement, disappointment, and finally resignation. And this is crushing. It breaks my heart.

All of it is a bit confusing to me right now. Trying hard to process it all.
Does this prove that plastic surgery is not an exact science, not entirely predictable?

I am finding stories of joy and happiness, and satisfaction.
I am finding things that distress me, but I am not sure that they should..like about the lady who woke up twice during surgery. She was not feeling pain, but this sounds like a twilight zone nightmare to me.

Finding out you can only get over the counter meds and Tylenol for pain reduction in Tijuana, so if you want something more, bring your own. Good to know.

Reading about women crying all night, throwing up. This is not a picnic, obviously.

“Barbaric” looking incisions. When one is having large amounts of flesh removed, would they not all look barbaric? I don’t know. I need education.

Surgeons need to realize this site, and sites like it, are a powerful and empowering resource for consumers. I think that those doctors who embrace it will benefit the most. With knowledge comes power. They need to understand that this is ALL we have to go on, other than word of mouth.

Patients who choose elective surgery should be realistic about their expectations and outcome.

Surgeons need to realize that they are not just there for the surgery. A surgeon should never leave a patient with a large degree of dis-satisfaction, in my opinion.

I don’t think any surgery of this type should ever be rushed, so as to fit as many surgeries into a day as possible, even if multiple surgeries make the most economic sense.

It is my deepest wish that all surgeons (and/or their people) should study this site like it was a medical text. Plastic surgery is about anatomy, cutting and sewing- but it is also about people, their emotions and their choices. I think the most successful surgeons will understand this. If every doctor took these comments to heart, the good doctors would become great doctors, and they would see their practices expand as a result.

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January 18, 2015
No, they don't all need to be barbaric. I searched for months to find a gifted surgeon. I was willing to travel, and I didn't want to spend all my worldly treasures. Costa Rica has invested in developing medical tourism. Many surgeons, like mine has extensive training, including training at Johns Hopkins. You may want to read my review of Dr. Alberto Arguello. I think you are doing a great job on your "due diligence". You have good instincts.
January 18, 2015
thank you Evelyn, will read your review!
January 18, 2015
You stated everything beautiful ---- I remember a lady was who on this site was scheduling herself for a lifestyle lift --- I just freaked and said No No NO don't do it and sent a video done by 20 minutes on real life disasters --- then I couldn't find her - like she disappeared from the site --- finally I heard back and she said "thank you - I did cancel - did not go through with it and did get my deposit back" I was so happy!
January 18, 2015
thank you so much, I will remember!
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January 18, 2015
Wow you look amazing already! You are beautiful and good luck with your research xoxo
January 19, 2015
Thank you!
January 18, 2015
Beautifully said. What a lovely, positive, enlightening review, most likely from a person who is loving, positive and empathetic. It is great that you wrote this, simply because there might some people who are critical and think very deeply how this could hurt someone. What you wrote will make these type of people thing first.... Thanks for your terrific insight. La Nique
January 18, 2015
thank you, your comments are much appreciated!
January 21, 2015
What a thoughtful and insightful post. It sounds like you are on the right track by educating yourself as much as possible. Good luck in your search!