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Revision Rhinoplasty for Upturned and Short Nose (Male) - Seattle, WA

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I had a rhinoplasty in November 2013. I went to...

GuyFromTheNorth
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I had a rhinoplasty in November 2013. I went to have the surgery in Poland because of the low prices, but this whole "mission" turned out to be one of the worst experiences in my life, so far. I wanted to have a more masculine nose, as I all my life have been struggling with people saying I look feminine. So the plan was to make it less projected and derotate it. Everything went smooth, the surgeons and everyone were so nice and I had a very good feeling. This changed the second I took of the cast and I saw the result. I knew the nose was really swollen, but something did not seem right.

The nose was extremely upturned with LARGE nostrils and it was also very unsymmetrical. All the surgeon said was "it looks fine", "it's just swollen" and "it's a more delicate nose now". Well, did not want a more "delicate" nose, I wanted a more masculine nose. I was so shocked I couldn't say much, but when I asked the surgeon when I should come back for the after care follow-up, she said that they didn't do that. That made me even more shocked. I have to say it was very unprofessional...

From the second I got back to the hotel I started researching revision rhinoplasty surgeons. I wanted a surgeon who had for certain dealt with this kind of situation before, and also one that had very natural noses. Over the last 10 months I have talked to a doctor in Seattle, Dr. Thomas Lamperti, who I really believe can solve my problems. The time of the surgery I really don't know, but hopefully within a year. As a student I cant afford the surgery right now, and as the nose looks much better than it did right after the surgery (it's still to short and upturned, but looks much better), I am able to wait for the best (hopefully).

When I got home to Norway (after the rhinoplasty) I went straight to a plastic surgeon in Oslo. He saw my original nose before I left, and when I arrived to his office he was also very shocked. He thought they had given me a ski slope, and told me I had to tape my nose nose for several months and hope for the best. Two months after that he did an alar base reduction on the nose, as they somehow became very visable after the first rhinoplasty. That is much better now, but I dont like that it's upturned and to short.


PLAN FOR REVISION
Dr Lamperti and I have made an unformal plan for the revision. He will derotate and deproject the tip of the nose, and use spreader grafts to widen the bridge. He might also place a small cartilage graft on top of the bridge to make a slight curve of a "hump", and also a slight supratip break. That way the nose will have a curved look, not totally straight, but still masculine, and maybe more natural than if it was totally straight. He might also make the tip less defined with cartilage grafts, so that the shadows on each side of the tip isn't that visable.


10 MONTHS AFTER - Facial implants?
I am really looking forward to the revision rhinoplasty, but I am also wondering if I should get chin and cheek implants done at the same time, to make my facial features even more angular and masculine. The chin is a bit receded, small and "round", and the cheeks are quite flat. I also have a bit of hollowness under the eyes, which make me look so tired all the time. The most important thing is of course the rhinoplasty, as I am also starting having some problems with breathing. But the implants could be the little touch that made the face masculine to my liking. We'll see how thing wind out, I am really excited.

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October 4, 2014
Thanks so much for sharing your story with us. I know this probably doesn't help, but I think your natural nose was just fine. But I also think my natural nose was just fine too (now that its gone forever) and deeply regret ever getting any plastic surgery. Have you consulted with anyone else? I'm terribly sorry for all you've been through and appreciate you posting your photos so we can better understand what you're going through. Best wishes and looking forward to your updates.
October 5, 2014
Hello Faith2012 :) Thank you, I also think the nose looked fine before, especially from the profile view, but from the front the tip was the very bulbous and wide, and I didn't like that. A conservative reduction of the tip, spreader grafts to widen the pinching of the bridge and alar base reduction would have been perfect, but I didn't know enough about rhinoplasty methods back then. I have actually consulted with quite a few different surgeons, but I have a strong feeling that Dr Lamperti is the best surgeon, and even though I have to spend over 18 hours in a plane to get to Seattle I think it will be worth it. Thank you so much, yes, I think it is really great to post photos and sharing my story here, a story I havent shared with that many people. It's a lot to carry alone. I will update ;)
October 4, 2014
Hello! Sorry you had such a bad experience I hope your revision goes well and you keep us updated. By the way did you make the morphs or did dr. Lamperti do them?
October 5, 2014
Hi, RozeRoze. :) Thank you, I'll keep you updated. The morphs are made by me. I made them partly to explain how I wanted to change the nose when I mailed Dr Lamperti, and I also aked what was reasonable results. I also experimented in photoshop and made several different noses and features, basically to see what looked best. That way I know better what should be done. If you change one feature, the features around will also change, and that was very easy to see when I photoshopped. :)
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October 4, 2014
Skip the cheek and possibly the chin implant.
October 5, 2014
Hi foxyboxy :) Why do you think I should skip the implants?
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October 5, 2014
I don't think a chin implant will improve your looks much and the cheek implant will make you look feminine.
October 5, 2014
Hm... I think they will help making a much more harmonious face. It is very important that my implants make my face more masculine, are angular and not big and puffy. Maybe the morphing wasnt that masculine, as you say, but it should be possible to create masculine cheeks. That may be a bit subjective, though :)
October 5, 2014
If you do get the implants I recommend you get them separately from your revision rhinoplasty because after that you might feel like you don't need to change anything else. I feel like cheek implants never look natural
October 5, 2014
You are right about that :) But it is easy to do it all at once, when firstly going under the knife. You'll have less times "going under the knife", and less taking time off work, less periods of recovery time, which can be very challenging both mentally and physically. I dont know, maybe I'll just have the chin implant done at the same time, and maybe some radiesse to my cheeks so that I wont look so tired all the time, and for instance wait with the cheek implants until I am 25 and the facial bones have stopped growing for sure. There are so many different paths. :)
June 29, 2015
You can't assume that a surgeon who is good at rhinoplasty, is also going to be good at cheek implants - if you do decide on implants, my advice would be to research that procedure separately to try and get the best possible surgeon for that procedure.
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October 5, 2014
Thank you for starting your story here on RealSelf! Your excitement is very palpable. :) Please keep us posted throughout this journey. Read lots of reviews on the cheek and chin implants so you know what to expect.
October 5, 2014
Hello, Angiemcc :) Haha, you can tell? I am very excited, yes :) I have read almost every revision, cheek and chin review in here, so I know there are alot of different experiences out there, both good and those with less pleasing results. I will of course keep you updated. :)
November 17, 2014
Honestly, I think you should wait a couple years before having more surgery. It seems like you have become a little obsessive about your appearance (totally understandable after a surgery result you're unhappy with!), but I think photoshopping your own face to this extent cannot be good for your mental well being. Your 'after' faces look very fashionable in a Hollywood/'Twilight' kind of way, but remember this will be your face forever and you may not always want to look this way. I also think the after faces look somewhat more feminine than your current face! It sounds like perhaps you were bullied for your appearance at some point and have ended up believing what others have said about you. I think maybe you should undertake some counselling to try to overcome your self hatred and focus a bit more outwardly for a while before having more surgery. I'm sorry if this advice seems harsh, I'm just thinking about what I would tell my own sons if this were them. Someone is going to love your face just the way it is one day. Hopefully you will too!
UPDATED FROM GuyFromTheNorth

Implants - yes or no?

GuyFromTheNorth
I have tried to compare two images here. The nose is the same in both photos, it's how I'd like it to be after the revision. However, only the right photo has augmentation of the chin, cheeks and jaw. I think it is much easier to see how the implants can help making a much more harmonious face when comparing it like this. Without the implants the nose seems out of proportion, I would say. And with the flat cheeks I look very tired. Hmmm...

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November 5, 2014
you are very very good looking man. you do not look feminine that all!! you look much better than the morph photo. please think hard and don't do this to your self.XXXX
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August 28, 2015
No implants! Your face is very attractive don't ruin it
March 30, 2018
I might be in the minority here but I think you could work small cheek implants. The style is really going to be crucial. You need to go custom and not off the shelf. The nose looks a bit too derotated in your simulation but otherwise good. Which Polish surgeon did your rhinoplasty?
UPDATED FROM GuyFromTheNorth

Used to be "the-fat-and-feminine-kid"

GuyFromTheNorth
When I was younger I got harassed all the time, people called me fat and feminine. This drove me to my first rhinoplasty, the attempt of getting a more masculine appearance. Sadly things did not turn out the way I had expected. I got depressed for a while, but I decided this experience wouldn't stop me, and I got really focused on working out (I already worked out, but not at the same level I have in the last 7 months). I thought if I at least could have a masculine body, then that would be at a little bit better, right? I am so glad for that decision, and I am happy with my results. Even friends and family are very impressed, and glad on my behalf.

So the other day I was thinking; why isn't that enough? It's maybe weird, but I dont want people do define me based on my body. I dont feel like having to prove my masculinity with my muscles. I want people too look at my face. :) And you also have that constant struggle of keeping in shape... The fact is that you cant really rely on your body either. What if something happens in the future, and I'll be unable to work out at this level? Then all I have left is my face. And I refuse other people to define me, hehe, I want to define my self, and that is the main reason why I am looking so forward to this surgery. I really hope it goes well. :)

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October 6, 2014
Hey bud...don't go too far. After getting rhinoplasty and a revision, I feel like I lost a lot of my identity. You still want to look in the mirror and recognize yourself. The only person who is really looking at you, is you! So make sure to love what you got!
October 7, 2014
Hey chow 68 :) I will not. Guess it's very subjective how far "too far" is though. But I get what you mean. I still want to look my self, but only the better version. I actually love a lot with my appearance, even though I haven't talked too much about it earlier. I for instance love my eyes, they are very beautiful. Too bad I wont let you see them, haha. Maybe one day.
February 5, 2015
October 7, 2014
Hi GuyFromTheNorth, you don't need the cheek implants, they look fake in most cases. You actually looked cute before the surgery. You already look masculine. What you really needed to do was eat a clean diet for clear skin and go to the gym for weight-lifting, this will give you the masculine appeal you want.
October 7, 2014
Hey nvl. :) Yes I know, but there is nothing to do about now, right? My old nose is forever gone, and I should just try to forget about it, even though it's difficult. I eat very healthy food actually, but at the end of the day I can't really do anything about my skin, as I am still a teenager. ;) Even though I go to the gym for weight-lifting and this changes my body, I don't really feel like this changes my facial features. Maybe I look more masculine overall, though... But thanks to the weight-lifting, people are telling me I am starting to look great, and no one ever did that before, not even before my first rhinoplasty which results (I believe) made me look less attractive.
October 8, 2014
It sounds like you need to speak to someone rather than get surgery. I totally get where you are coming from, I have researched revision rhinoplasties for hours on end and am constantly looking at what I can "improve"… It's a slippery slope to seeking perfection and ending up looking like the cat lady. The implants you mention highly remind me of the 'ken doll' from the TV show Botched - google him and you will see what I mean. He is one of the most feminine looking men I have ever seen which sounds like the exact opposite of what you want. Coming from an outside observer with no bias as I do not know you, I think you are very handsome. Personally, I wouldn't choose the risk of surgery to mess with something already good. Things that we see are so much more enhanced than other people see. Whatever you choose to do, I wish you the best of luck with your journey and your path to self-acceptance.
October 11, 2014
Hi hybridgrl989 :) Thank you for your opinions. I am talking to someone, actually, and it's slowly helping my self-esteem. The psychiatrist and I believe the high focus on appearance comes from my family home. My mother is an aerobic instructor and my father a bodybuilder, however they both deny their focus on appearance, which is totally wrong. I don't want perfection, but improvement, and I don't think there is anything wrong with this now, at this stage. If I continue, want more and more, then I might agree that I should take a step back, and think. But I agree with you about the implants, so I have to be very careful not over doing things, as that might lead to a feminine or unnatural appearance. I totally get what you mean, the things I see as annoying, other people don't even think about as a problem. But I am not doing this to please other people, I do it for me, so I can be happy with my self. Thank you :)
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October 12, 2014
I don't think you should have any surgery until you have sorted out your psychological issues and you should not have any type of implants until your bones have stopped growing. I don't want you to end up like Bruce Jenner. Google Bruce Jenner and look at his before and after surgery pictures.
October 12, 2014
Hi foxyboxy :) I am able to wait with the imolants, yes. But I am positive I'll have the rhinoplasty as soon as possible. Not only because how it looks, which really is not that bad as other rhinoplasty results, but mostly because of the breathing problems I noe face after the surgery. I can't work out properly and I never jog, simply because of the limited airflow. When I take really deep breaths, my nose collapses. But I agree that I could wait with the implants until I am 25 yrs, and my facial bones have finished growing for sure. And maybe I dont feel like having them after all at that time. :)
October 12, 2014
Bruce Jenner has obviously taken facelifts and a lot of botox and stuff in desperation to look younger. Thats not my goal. I want to look older, more masculine, I really want to get rid of that boyish look. I dont care about wrinkles and stuff that is all natural. You could probably say that implants aren't natural either, but when used right, and if it could give you a more natural and harmonious apperance, then I dont see any problems with it.
October 12, 2014
Please do not get those implants..or the chin.. Looks fake and the nose they have in the photo for u looks too straight at the top.. U don't need the chin either! Ur chin is fine.
October 12, 2014
Hi Nathalie212 :) What do you mean when you say "the nose they have in the photo for u looks too straight at the top"?
October 12, 2014
I mean in between the eyes from down something looks too straight.. Maybe too much definition..
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December 14, 2014
yeah you have bdd your primary results really good i just had a good look at them and i think it is a perfect match for your face don't get cheekbones and all that s*** seriously you are being driven by your insecurity but it is actually not attractive
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December 14, 2014
i had bdd and i made some big mistakes with surgery and i really regret it. my primary result was perfect for my face but in my mind i thought it was not nice and now everyday i feel like crying because i can't go back to what i had. don't make the same mistake that i did listen to other people and get help.