Thermitight = Nightmare - Scottsdale, AZ

" By not returning your money Dr. Ptak may find himself to be richer in a monetary sense but everyone seeing your neck and reading your story can agree that he is penniless in morality. Your pictures leave no doubt that he has caused you physical harm. Again, a doctor's duty is to heal not to disfigure. "

Yes. Hang in, Indeed!

I have exactly this issue going on with Dr. Daniel Shapiro! May the truth prevail.

Thank you all for your honest reviews. Being damaged by ultherapy an unethical dermatologist providing I understand the paint caused. At this point any doctor/provider even offering an radio frequency device I will steer clear off as I believe now in 2016, enough data is available for them to discontinue offering these procedures if care one iota for their customers. Damage isn't usually seen immediately but it's underlying an what often follows is accounts like ours far too much.

***pain^ not paint.^

Ultherapy and Thermi are two very different procedures. Thermi uses radiofrequency (radiation), whereas Ultherapy uses ultrasound.

OMG...I'm now about 16 months after Thermi to lower face and neck and 3 months ago I was diagnosed with thyroid problems, I never put those two together, and I NEVER had thyroid problems before!! I have weird lumps all over my neck and under my chin area showing up the last few months. Have you undergone your corrective procedures and if so are you pleased? I want to have that done this summer but I'm very worried about outcome with all the scarring and strange lumps Thermi has left. Hope your procedures go really well!

Can you please tell me why they think Thermi caused your thyroid problem? It's just too coincidental that one year after Thermi I was also diagnosed with thyroid problems and never had any issues with my thyroid before.

I lost my voice for two days after thermitite on my neck. Perhaps the heat burned my vocal cords and caused swelling and with a thyroid maybe it caused scar tissue to form. So sorry I would have a thyroid specialist look at this coincidence it may not be one.

That makes sense Posh as I have very visible tunnel-like white scarring where the probe was pushed through under the skin. Would not be a surprise if they burned my thyroid with that thing. How are you doing, any luck with your doctor?

I also have the same white tunnel scar. Thankfully, with the neck lift it is now high enough on my neck to not be very visible.

I know the lumps you are referring to because I also had lumps that started the same week as my Thermi. Currently I still have a few lumps but since I am recovering from surgery I am not sure how they will look. Thankfully the Thermi tunnel scar is high enough on my neck now to not be very visible. I will post a review of my neck and lower facelift after a little more time has passed.

It sounds like you had a very similar outcome to mine so I will be anxiously awaiting to hear if your neck/facelift was able to address all your concerns. My neck skin is so shriveled and wrinkled with very deep creases/rings going around my neck. I hope you have excellent results and quick recovery!

I really hope you all follow up with this. I will be anticipating :-)))

I expect to be posting my mini-facelift and necklift review in a few weeks. It is ridiculous that I needed that done to repair the Thermi damage, but I did. And i am super happy with my surgical results. The new doctor (a cosmetic surgeon I used many years earlier for a different procedure) reversed all the damage done by the Thermi doctor and now I look good again and better than pre-Thermi.

That is so encouraging, I have found a surgeon I like who is confident he can fix the damage done and I'm considering going forward. Thank you for your update, I have been afraid to proceed but you make me feel better about going for it. So glad you are so happy with your results. Thermi ruined my arms too and it will take a lift if I also want that damage fixed. Who is your surgeon, if I may ask?

PS: how are your lumps now?

I used Dr. Gaston de la Garza in Tijuana. This was not the first time I went to him. 15 years ago I went to him for liposuction. I posted a review and photos long ago on another cosmetic surgery message board that is now gone. When I recently went back to him, he still had all my pre-op photos so I write another full-body lipo review here. He is a miracle worker. I have done 3 surgeries with him and have referred many friends to him over the years. I only did Thermi with the other doctor because it was supposed to be non-invasive and was relatively inexpensive. Lesson learned.

As for the lumps, I don't see them anymore. I suspect that this may be a coincidence and they might have finally resolved on their own. But they were definitely noticeable pre-surgery so it is also possible that the doctor fixed that at the same time. I am not sure which..

Thank you GrowingYounger for your reply, I'm really happy for you!!

Beth, That's called 'pixie ears'.

I have them too, and I am as freaked out about t as you must be...

Jivana, that is what another PS called them too. He thought maybe the PS that did this to my ears was an inexperienced young PS. But when I told him he was not he said "Well he should've known better". Cute name aside, they freak me out every time I look in the mirror. Freaks my little boy out too.

As a sad side note, now he is afraid to go to his pediatrician. I have explained to him that not all doctors are "bad".

T

The doctor who gave me 'pixie ears' is touted here on RS, as a top doctor in all areas of PS.

You really should share the name of the doctor that is responsible for your "pixie ears" as a warning to others. Just terrible. :(

Awwwww ronn, I truly am so sorry. Thank you for responding to my post. I hate to say it but it is nice to know someone also understands the disappointment and yes, the depression.

If I find anything that may help us. I will let you know. I will need a neck lift but the fat loss in the chin and face us what scares me. A life time of fillers. OMG. No !! I am so upset. I was told the setting was only for skin tightening NO fat loss. we are just the tip of the iceberg. This will be as bad as thermage. I am glad I could let you know you are not alone . Stay strong

Ronn, yet another victim to the destruction of ThermiTight, I'm so sorry for what you are going through, as you can see, there are several of us going through this. I'm with you, the depression and anxiety this has caused is tremendous. How is this severe damage happening to us and no one being held accountable???? I personally think we need to band together and do something about this awful procedure, it's happening to too many of us and it's not a mild issue, it is causing significant damage physically and emotionally. They should not get away with it. I wish the best for you ladies, you're not going through it alone.

If we all stand together, we have a voice, we don't have to suffer in silence and we don't have to take it their "sorry about your luck" attitude. Women need to know the possible horrible results that can come from ThermiTight. As a previous poster put it, "it's the gift that keeps on taking". So instead of looking forward to those amazing results they promise you will have in 6-9 months, if it goes bad, you have to suffer through the continued deterioration of your face/neck month after month after month not knowing when/if it is going to stop. You ladies also stay strong! I appreciate your support!

I am so sorry for all of you that you had negative results. :-( I woukd be depressed too. I have been wanting to do Thermitight for under my chin. I have seen people who have had it with amazing results. Could it be the dr that may have done it wrong? I have seen many who has positive results from some great plastic surgeons.

Mine is a "great" double board certified facial plastic surgeon. I still hold Thetmitight responsible, they are the ones training these doctors. There needs to be much stricter warnings and possible significant potential complications but it is certainly not being promoted that way by anyone involved in ThermiTight. Maybe we should have our pictures posted on their website along with the good ones. How many women would go through with it after seeing the possible significantly poor outcome? We're not talking no improvement, which I would be ok with, we're talking about being left much worse and needing neck/face lifts to fix the mess.

Thank you Ronn, I will definitely keep in touch with anything I can find out about a plan to go forward. The doctor who performed my Thermi put some Radiesse along my jawline to soften the jowl area about 7 months after, and I did not have jowls before the Thermi!! i can imagine how it's going to look after the Radiesse absorbs. But if you have someone you trust with injectables, it is something you could ask them about and if it could possibly help soften yours. Mine was put in a small area between the chin and jawbone. I completely understand your distress. The platysmal banding he said I now have, well I didn't have that before the Thermi either. I have obvious small white tunnel scars all along the area under my chin. It has definitely taken a toll on my self esteem. It makes me sad to know all of you are going through this too. At first I thought it was just my luck, now I know luck had nothing to do with it, and it is NOT acceptable. Have you tried contacting Thermi direct? They didn't return my phone call.

I tried again and again!!!!! i have been trying all week to get their local rep here in Phoenix. She has not returned any of my calls either. Bling, if you have a corporate number, I would love it. I cannot find another number for them.

I think the headquarters is in Houston.

Jnewb, i also had awful numbness for months and I could NOT feel my ears at all for over 6 months!! I was terrified I would never feel them again. When the feeling started to come back, they were extremely hypersensitive and I could bearly stand to touch them. They are pretty much back to normal at this point at 15 months out and I'm so thankful. I would give anything to go back, cuz that little bit of loose skin under my chin is now a lot of excess skin along with scarring that travels much further down and is no longer just under the chin. Good luck to you in whatever you decide to do!

Bling Girl, Thats scary!! I'm not doing Thermitight after hearing all this!!! Thank u for the info!!!

I had a numb skull for 14 years, after a coronal brow lift (which I did not want, did not need, and was 'sold') and some of my symptoms remain still after that.

Jivana, thats awful about the brow lift. :-( I wanted an endoscopic one, but changed my mind for many reasons. A few drs told me I don't need one so I'm not doing it. Sometimes, things just aren't worth it. Better to take good care of our skin and try and age gracefully. I'm just doing conservative things as I age. Drastic just isn't worth it. I'm sorry u have that numbness after all those yrs. :-(

Jivana, I apologize for asking earlier if you were in any way associated with Thermi, I just saw this post where you obviously have also been personally impacted negatively by this procedure. To a certain level I do think the PS's should bear some responsibility for what they are selling us but IMO if we start at the top, we have a better chance of bringing about necessary changes in the marketing of this procedure by physicians to patients. Good luck to you, I hope you find an acceptable resolution. I have two choices at this point, live with it or undergo the risks of invasive neck lift.

Again BG, no, I have no had THIS particular procedure .... but I have had surgery with a highly touted ps in Scottsdale, that left me with some alarming results. It's personal to me to care about this so much! And about why we have so little recourse when things don't go just right. All the power is in he hands of the ps, once we've paid our fees. That isn't totally right, IMO.

No need to apologize BG. I didn't take it personally at all :-).

This is some scary stuff...and people need to know, IMo.

Thank you Jivana! So sorry you are still living with that awful numbness, I feel fortunate the feeling returned to my ears.

Jivana, I don't totally disagree with you in this regard, especially if it was an isolated PS or event, but that's not the case. I still stand my ground that ThermiTight is ultimately responsible for training these physicians. I have to ask, and this is genuine, no disrespect or judgement intended whatsoever, are you in any way associated with the ThermiTight company? Your input is appreciated.

Thank you for sharing, I will check it out!