POSTED UNDER Facelift REVIEWS
Absolute Failure - Lasted Less Than One Year - Bait & Hook Operation
ORIGINAL POST
After many years of debating with myself and...
SnookeredOctober 7, 2015
$10,000
After many years of debating with myself and research, I am finally convinced that giving myself an overhaul is the right thing to do. I have no problem at all with growing older gracefully - I do, however, have a problem with growing wrinkled, flabby and saggy. If I may correct this and head into the Golden Years looking my very best, then I absolutely believe that they will be so much more enjoyable and Golden.... !
To this point, working with Pat Marino has been an absolute pleasure compared to representatives for the other surgeons that I have researched. She has been lovely and very prompt to address any concerns without hounding me or spamming me while I was making a decision. I am quite looking forward to spending a week recovering at the beautiful Casa Marino. I've been working myself silly with new home remodels, etc. and the thought of being cooked for, waited on, massaged and pampered is much anticipated. I'd almost go for the Spa Treat alone without the surgery!
I am 51 years old. My plan of action pre-consultation is: lower face/neck lift, mid-face, upper and lower eyes, forehead/ brow lift, dermabrasion to perioral area, a tiny bit of an adjustment to the tip (only) of my nose (which for some odd reason has gotten longer and more pointy with age :/), fat transfers to my lips and any other area that Dr. K feels may be helpful. Pretty much the entire shebang, I think.
I will be heading to Mexico on 24 November 2015. My family has agreed to an early Thanksgiving Celebration and I will be spending the Holidays with Pat and Crew. I am wondering if anyone else is going during this timeframe. Also - do any past facelift patients (with Dr. Koelliker or anyone else) have helpful tips and advice on procedures, special items to take to aid in my healing or advice of any kind? Any vitamins or supplement that I should take or special tips to help my scars heal to their very best?
Excited, nervous, then excited again. Pretty much running the gamut on emotions over here. I have never had surgery. I am not sure what to expect. I am investing a lot of money, and I sure do hope that I will have a good and lasting outcome with no regrets whatsoever. My main area of concern is that many have said that Dr. K is very conservative and I really do want a more aggressive approach. Not quite cat lady but a comfortable mid-point. I have been assured that I may address this with Dr. K on my consult prior to surgery. I don't care if anyone makes the wow! you had surgery remarks. I am pretty much an open book type person, so everyone already knows and is supportive of my decision......
I will keep a journal here as I go along, so if nothing else I will be able to help the next few people decide whether it is worth it to invest your chunk of life savings or not.... I have several friends who call me the Guinea Pig now. Pending my outcome, we all plan to grow Gorgeous and Golden together.
Deep breath now that my FINAL decision has been made and deposits paid. Bye bye little financial nest-egg that I have carefully tucked away. Hellooooo Gorgeous Granny! ;)
To this point, working with Pat Marino has been an absolute pleasure compared to representatives for the other surgeons that I have researched. She has been lovely and very prompt to address any concerns without hounding me or spamming me while I was making a decision. I am quite looking forward to spending a week recovering at the beautiful Casa Marino. I've been working myself silly with new home remodels, etc. and the thought of being cooked for, waited on, massaged and pampered is much anticipated. I'd almost go for the Spa Treat alone without the surgery!
I am 51 years old. My plan of action pre-consultation is: lower face/neck lift, mid-face, upper and lower eyes, forehead/ brow lift, dermabrasion to perioral area, a tiny bit of an adjustment to the tip (only) of my nose (which for some odd reason has gotten longer and more pointy with age :/), fat transfers to my lips and any other area that Dr. K feels may be helpful. Pretty much the entire shebang, I think.
I will be heading to Mexico on 24 November 2015. My family has agreed to an early Thanksgiving Celebration and I will be spending the Holidays with Pat and Crew. I am wondering if anyone else is going during this timeframe. Also - do any past facelift patients (with Dr. Koelliker or anyone else) have helpful tips and advice on procedures, special items to take to aid in my healing or advice of any kind? Any vitamins or supplement that I should take or special tips to help my scars heal to their very best?
Excited, nervous, then excited again. Pretty much running the gamut on emotions over here. I have never had surgery. I am not sure what to expect. I am investing a lot of money, and I sure do hope that I will have a good and lasting outcome with no regrets whatsoever. My main area of concern is that many have said that Dr. K is very conservative and I really do want a more aggressive approach. Not quite cat lady but a comfortable mid-point. I have been assured that I may address this with Dr. K on my consult prior to surgery. I don't care if anyone makes the wow! you had surgery remarks. I am pretty much an open book type person, so everyone already knows and is supportive of my decision......
I will keep a journal here as I go along, so if nothing else I will be able to help the next few people decide whether it is worth it to invest your chunk of life savings or not.... I have several friends who call me the Guinea Pig now. Pending my outcome, we all plan to grow Gorgeous and Golden together.
Deep breath now that my FINAL decision has been made and deposits paid. Bye bye little financial nest-egg that I have carefully tucked away. Hellooooo Gorgeous Granny! ;)
Snookered's provider
Replies (19)
September 4, 2016
Don't do it. He doesn't reposition muscles - only removes skins and leaves huge scars with too much tension.
October 1, 2016
October 1, 2016
Thank you so much for speaking out. I wish I had been able to write my review earlier, but I had to wait for that three-month mark.
October 1, 2016
I also thank you for speaking out. I almost did this a few years ago....come on, it does sound wonderful after all! Coming back home all glamorous after a 2 week mending in paradise. I received 2 messages from ladies with warnings that changed my mind. I still follow all the threads though. It seems to be hit or miss. I don't have that kind of luck. So sorry that your results didn't last. I really hope you haven't given up your quest to find a surgeon that will give you the long lasting results that we ALL are hoping for. I'm like you...I can look a little plastic, don't care. :) Best wishes & thank you for speaking out! KAT
October 2, 2016
October 2, 2016
You're welcome, sweetness. I appreciated your bravery and unwavering insistence on the truth, so I decided to stand with you. Offering upgrades and perks for people to write their review, while they are still stretched and plumped up from swelling, is how they get so many positive reviews here. When I expressed displeasure, I was threatened so, to me, that explains the reason there are fewer negative reviews.
I feel for those ladies who jumped on your review. I'm not wishing it on them; I have just been there. When the Sculptura, Botox and fillers wear off and their muscles win out over stretched tissues that can no longer support them, they are going to be so upset. Sadly left with hideous, amateurish scars and not much else to show for it..... Not many are going to come back after a year of seeing their friends struggle to come up with something positive to say, or - the worst - hearing from those who say I TOLD you not to do this. ;/ You feel foolish and dread seeing those who know you had surgery. The last thing you want to add is to have your photos plastered all over the internet, documenting that you have been foolish.
I feel for those ladies who jumped on your review. I'm not wishing it on them; I have just been there. When the Sculptura, Botox and fillers wear off and their muscles win out over stretched tissues that can no longer support them, they are going to be so upset. Sadly left with hideous, amateurish scars and not much else to show for it..... Not many are going to come back after a year of seeing their friends struggle to come up with something positive to say, or - the worst - hearing from those who say I TOLD you not to do this. ;/ You feel foolish and dread seeing those who know you had surgery. The last thing you want to add is to have your photos plastered all over the internet, documenting that you have been foolish.
January 4, 2018
I’ve been looking for a surgeon so long and I thought I finally did.. reading these threads so confusing. realself has removed quite a bit here and there , I wish she didn’t now it’s a bit cryptic. I’m not sure what to do
October 1, 2016
I wish you had posted a review. Getting slammed has spurred an important dialogue with more people posting information in a format that can be used. I would have read and used this information. Please, anyone with constructive reviews should post!!
October 2, 2016
October 4, 2016
Snookered, I'm so sorry this happened to you. There are more and more women coming out and saying they were harmed by this doctor. Unfortunately the Marino Marketing Machine continues to churn out advertising that promises the moon at a discount price. Its like going on eb@y and finding a "brand new" Givenchy purse for $100 when the one at Bergdorf's is $2500. The ebay one turns out to be a fake, 99.999% of the time. Many women here and elsewhere have said the scars left from this doctor are unacceptable, and their faces sag again because he does a skin lift instead of a composite SMAS facelift/necklift which has better results as it tightens the muscles of the face, not just skin. Its terrible that Marino et al have threatened you. You've already been violated once by having your face maimed and now they try to threaten you with a lawsuit for posting a true review? There's also been a spate of pro-Koeliker reviews here and anyone who questions them or posts a bad review gets a beat down by the new reviewer who keeps posting glowing praise for Marino et al.
October 5, 2016
October 6, 2016
Whoa, that is a very big deal and so exciting! Please keep us updated on how it all goes. Your story is going to be helpful for so many others. Here's a list of tips for pre- and post-op.
I have the horrible before turkey neck and jowl photos saved but I cannot bring myself to post them until I have the after to go beside them. One day I looked in the mirror and said ack! where did that come from??
To journal what is happening now - my only child (22 y.o. son) is expressing strong reservations of me having this done. He says my face is beautiful like it is and he is so worried that there will be a disaster..... I am calming him by showing him statistics for women who have had this done versus disasters, and also numerous before and after photos. He refuses to watch any video of the operation itself. None of this has eased his anxiety. So we pray.
For me, I am just excited. I have already researched. Ready to get it on and start enjoying the result! It cannot come soon enough for me.
Thanks again for the tips. Make it a beautiful day where you are!
I can't watch videos of the surgeries themselves either. :-/ I'm sorry your son is so anxious about this. I hope he finds peace with it soon!