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I have "interviewed" four doctors. Two of them...

bnewton18
WORTH IT$28,000
I have "interviewed" four doctors. Two of them were recommendations from friends and two were chosen based on reviews on this site. It was an interesting, albeit slightly confusing process, to get input from 4 experts. There was general agreement on my lower face - face and neck lift. However, my brow area has been a concern for a long time. My brows sit too low on my head and compound the drooping of my eyelids. Also, since I've spent so many years trying to hold up my brows to open my eyes more I have deep grooves across my forehead plus the groove in the center. The recommendations ranged: fillers and botox, temporal brow lift and endoscopic brow lift. Some recommended upper and lower bleph, some only upper.I actually met "my" doctor as the third consultation. I knew pretty immediately that he was the right guy. He was friendly and open, spent a lot of time talking to me about my concerns, explaining in detail the possible approaches and then his recommendations. I never felt rushed and could ask as many questions as I wanted. Another plus is that he was recommended by a friend-of-a-friend who got a great result plus a friend of hers got an excellent result.So, long story even longer, after talking to the 4th guy I chose Dr. Scott Miller. I will be having a face and neck lift, endoscopic brow lift, upper and lower bleph. I considered a rhinoplasty too but felt I just couldn't a) handle that much and b) it increased the cost about $5K.At this point I am experiencing considerable anxiety about the whole thing. Mostly I'm worried about feeling anxious when I have trouble sleeping or can't move my head easily or whatever. I have a tendency to panic attacks and so I end up being afraid of being afraid . I have a list of questions that I will be asking the surgical nurse tomorrow. I've already been told that I will have plenty of meds (pain, anxiety, sleep) to keep me comfortable. I've had other surgeries and generally speaking the anticipation is much worse than the actuality so I keep trying to remind myself of that.I thought posting here early and writing about my experience might help me and help others. I hope so anyway. The pictures in this post were taken during my consultation and then posted to TouchMD under an account created for me. They're very unflattering pictures (YIKES!). I'm also posting the same pictures with the doctor's drawing on them which he did as he walked me through his recommendations and the process.

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Scott R. Miller, MD

Scott R. Miller, MD

Board Certified Plastic Surgeon

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April 10, 2015
When I first woke up from the anesthesia, I felt a little panic, which I was not expecting. Immediately, I started doing long slow deep breaths and it helped immensely. If you want to be proactive about keeping calm, you could get some relaxation audiobooks and start listening to them now. Don't worry, the healing process moves through stages and you won't be stuck feeling miserable forever. For me, the 1st 4 days were rough but completely bearable. After that, I felt much better and continued feeling better. It takes patience to wait for the swelling to go down, and the discomfort of the numbness. And to go through that when you do't recognize yourself in the mirror a little taxing, but you can make yourself comfortable and get through it.
April 12, 2015
Thanks for the encouragement! It helps...a lot! I've had anxiety issues for years so I have a number of things I can do. It's more worrying that they won't work. I mean, rationally, I know I'll be fine but it's such an unpleasant feeling that I over-anticipate. Your feedback is very kind and I appreciate it!
April 11, 2015
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing the details.
April 11, 2015
Hi, Thanks for sharing your pics and your story. I live near San Diego and have heard only good things about Dr. Miller. I wish I had gone to see him! I had a lower facelift and neck lift with another doctor in SD one year ago. I wish I had consulted with more plastic surgeons ( I saw three) before I made my decision. The doctor I chose did have two bad reviews on Yelp and a lot of good ones . I questioned the nurses in his office about the bad ones and they reassured me that they were trying to reach out to the women that wrote them. I should have cancelled my surgery like my gut told me. I do feel lucky that I did not have a "bad" outcome, but don't feel like it really did much at all. I am going back and have them take my one year post-op photos to see if there is much difference in my before and after because I sure don't see it and no one says that I look better! I can hear all of them in the office saying how great I look! I think my jowl area is improved maybe 25% and lower face is not tighter at all. When I addressed my concerns at my 6 month follow-up the doctor said I would have had a better outcome if I had the fat transfer with the lift and he recommended another $5,000 in fillers or the $8,000-$10,000 fat transfer! I did not post a review with photos of the doctor yet because I want to see if he will offer any revision and I know if I write a negative review he will not even see me. He has done this to other patients. Enough about me, I think you are going to have a fabulous outcome and the post-surgery is not bad at all. If you have to use the heavy-duty pain pills, be sure to use a laxative because they are so constipating and that's no fun! It is difficult sleeping on your back if you are a side or tummy sleeper, but for me that was about the most uncomfortable part. Think positive and do everything they recommend with the supplements like Arnica, vitamin C, etc. and healing will go faster than you will believe! Good luck and I am looking forward to your post-op photos!
April 12, 2015
Thanks for the feedback! One of the things I liked about Dr. Miller (in addition to what I mentioned) is that he "guarantees" his work. It's in the paperwork you sign that if you need any revision he will perform it for free (although there is a charge for operating room and anesthesia...which seemed fair). That showed a lot of confidence in his work and that he wants you to have a good outcome. I'm sorry you're not happy with your result...that sucks. I hope your doctor takes steps to help you get the result you want.
April 13, 2015
I think that is awesome about Dr. Miller. It seems that most PS doctors won't guarantee their work because some patients have such unrealistic expectations. But every face is different and if the doctor is a perfectionist, as he should be, then they should do the right thing and do what they can to achieve the outcome expected or promised prior to surgery! I probably told the doctor ten times that I was worried about "too much or too little" being done with my face and neck lift. He was way too conservative or did not take enough time to do the lift correctly. I guess that is better than the dreaded pulled too tight look. But it is so disappointing because this was one shot for me. I will never have the money to do this again. I'm pretty sure based on my 6 month consultation that he will do nothing, just suggest more procedures at my cost. I have decided that I am going to have fillers with a great dermatologist in Solana Beach and hope that will improve the sagging in my mid face and jawline. Looking back, the worst part of the whole experience was the anxiety before surgery! I think almost everyone has it...so you are normal :-) Are you going to have a fat transfer? If so, do your research because I think it's about 50/50 on the worth it scale. I would personally suggest that you wait until you do all the procedures and then see if you need volume replacement, like fat transfer or fillers. I'm far from an expert, but I do read everything I can get my hands on about facial rejuvenation lol. I really think that your outcome will be fabulous and if you know that you made the right choice in your doctor that is EVERYTHING!
April 14, 2015
Thanks for your observations! I'm just having a tiny bit of fat transfer to my lips...that's it. I think it's probably hard for a doctor to figure out the too much/too little thing. I'm hoping that choosing Dr. Miller, who I know has produced excellent results for others, will mean I get a good result too. He definitely shoots for a "natural" look. It must be hard to be disappointed in your result. For me also, this is a one-time thing and it's a LOT of money.
April 13, 2015
I appreciate you writing this to help others.
UPDATED FROM bnewton18
2 months pre

Speak with the surgical nurse soon...

bnewton18
I told the patient coordinator at the doctor's office that I had a bunch of questions. She could answer some of them but suggested that I might like to speak with the surgical nurse since she could answer more of my questions. I thought that was great and will speaking to her this week. She also volunteered that if I still was concerned or had questions that she would schedule a brief consult with the doctor again. I don't think that's necessary but we'll see what the nurse has to say.

One thing I asked and she told me (which was a relief) is that when I come back the day after surgery for the post-op check they'll wash my hair! Then I'm not supposed to wash it again for 7 days BUT if it bothers me I can come in and a nurse will wash it for me again! I thought that was a great sign of a good surgical practice.

Here are some of the questions I'll be asking. If anyone can think of some others pipe in!

Get tranquilizers for post-op?
What pain meds are prescribed? Do they help you sleep?
Concerned about anxiety
How restrained is movement
Do I have to sleep on my back? Can I turn my head when I sleep?
What if I have to yawn or sneeze?
When do the screws come out? (They put a couple of small screws in your head to 'fix' the browlift)
Can I wear earphones?
Glasses? Any restrictions on wearing my reading glasses?
Hairline? Will the browlift change my hairline?
Expressions? I have a very mobile face and, am told, make a lot of faces when I speak. Since that's part of my personality...that won't change?
Hair washing?
Arnica?
Anything else I should have to help healing?
Eating/drinking restrictions?

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April 12, 2015
My first suggestion is to also speak with your PS that is what he is there for. You should never feel you are bothering him. Talking to the nurse, patient coordinator are good options but for me personally I would also speak again with the doctor (you'll also find out how accessable he is). Yes you will be sleeping on your back either in a chair or in bed elevated in a 45 degree angle - this is a challenge for most. Restrict your salt intake - makes you swell big time. Yawning and/or sneezing is a problem and will probably hurt, but it is what it is. Arnica Montana pellets and gel are the best for helping with bruising and swelling - take 5 days before and 5 days after surgery. I lived on pudding, jello and liquid meal supplement drinks and protein drinks for about a week, you shouldn't be chewing a lot and besides that hurts :) What medications that are prescribed is definitely a PS question and make sure you discuss with him your anxiety issues. Stay hydrated, drink lots and lots of water. Of course, each PS has different protocols for pre and post surgery, you should be getting a listing of restrictions, etc. from the PS office. Good luck, you'll do great.
April 13, 2015
Thank you! That was SO helpful! I did discuss my anxiety issues with the doctor and he puts you on a regimen of vitamins, arnica about 3 weeks before surgery and then after surgery. And thanks for your candor about the discomfort. It helps to be prepared...even over prepared....I find.
April 14, 2015

Thanks so much for your helpful suggestions. I so appreciate them! This website in an invaluablesurgery.off information from those who have had cosmetic surgery!!!

June 13, 2015
How much was the total cost of you Facelift. You look fantastic !
June 14, 2015
I had several procedures: face/neck lift, quad blephoplasty and endoscopic brow lift. Altogether it was $28,000. The doctor paid for the caregiver for the first night (i.e., it was included in the price) and would have paid for a hotel room except I live nearby and preferred to go home. And thanks!
UPDATED FROM bnewton18
2 months pre

Spoke with the PS

bnewton18
I was scheduled to speak with the doctor's nurse and ask questions (as I posted earlier) but it turned out she had a small family emergency so the doctor spoke with me himself. I thought that was great that he willingly stepped in and spoke with me. He answered all my questions and spoke with me about my anxiety. He acknowledged that it's not surprising to feel anxiety before such a procedure and especially not given my history with panic.

He gave me more details about the procedure, what to expect during and after. He reassured me (he was looking at my pictures that he had taken while we spoke) about the various things that I'm having done, what to expect, what he would be shooting for, etc. Overall it was really great and I feel much better having spoken directly with him. Partly because he gave such thorough answers and partly because he took the time. I didn't feel rushed and he answered everything candidly and completely.

My anxiety, in general, has been better. The responses I've received from others who have gone through this has helps a lot! (Thank you to those kind ladies :-)) Now I just get a little freaked out about the actual surgery (i.e., SOMEONE IS TAKING A KNIFE TO YOUR FACE). But Dr. Miller was very reassuring there too and said I would have some Valium for the night before so I get a good night's sleep and that once I sign the forms that morning they'll give me a tranquilizer "just in case." That showed me he understood and would accommodate my "issues."

Gack! I'm really going to do it!

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April 15, 2015
I'm so glad that you were able to talk with your PS about the various issues. I tapped into mine many times before and after surgery, plus the nurse, plus the patient coordinator, and plus anyone else who would listen LOL It is best to talk with the person who will be using the sharp, pointy things on your face. The doctors know what we are going through and can address those issues and make us feel better. You will do great.