Happy with my results...and Dr, Reston, VA

Hi Blanc_Chat, while I appreciate you comments I take complete offense to your last comments about Dr's from India.....!!!!! First off MY DR is AMERICAN most likely born in this country, he has NO accent AND I looked at where he studied and was certified...does Harvard ring a bell????? Have you ever asked yourself why so many Dr are from India....they are very bright people willing to study and get a degree in becoming a Dr. I have had plenty of American quacks in my lifetime...one should never just lump everyone into some self perceived bucket. The point is do your research...and as with any elective surgery there are risks and does not always turn out the way we would like. As for my results, it is interesting I still see things change and some days are better than others, I guess I am not done healing yet at 3 months and that is also what I have to take into consideration. I will continue to monitor and update by progress whatever I decide. From my understanding too, most Dr do not charge for revision surgery as they are interested in making their clients happy.

Hi Funnyface50. Thank you. I really enjoyed your reply for this matter about Drs. from India.

Thanks again daisyborges...there are good Dr's and bad Dr's from every corner of the world:).!

I agree.

Hi Jennifer, points well taken. I think you are right we look at ourselves so much more critical after this surgery. I mean I can tell you that I had never taken this many pictures of myself at the million different angles that I do now. I mean I look at my face very critically every day....does this look right or does that look wrong etc, kind of funny to some extend. I will say that my lower jaw looks very nice, very sharp and I truly like and its a great improvement over what was there before. I will see what happens next week in discussion with my Doc...I am also healing very nicely and my scaring is diminishing to be almost not visible and my thought is, do I really want to open all the up again for minimal additional improvement?....the answer...right now is "I don't know". Anyway I think you got it right..totally satisfied hmmm what is that anyways:). All the best and more to come.

Hi Funnyface50, I had a visit with my doctor last week and wasn't very happy. She has always been so nice and when I told her I was not satisfied she got a little snippy with me say that I did not have an appointment and she didn't even have to see me. She is one of the nicest doctors I have ever dealt with so that made me wonder if now that I am complaining everything was all a front? I had liposuction on my chin and the neck lift, I am still not happy with the returning of the jowling, and my neck is hard and lumpy and I am going for ultrasound. If I want a revision it will have to wait for the 6 month period when all the hardness is gone. I am not at all happy with my laser, I had nice skin to begin with and the issues I wanted to address are not. As far as I'm concerned anyone who has had this surgery should be completely satisfied, not partially, this is not a small amount of money to have paid out. I think u should be totally satisfied and if your not I think a refund is in order if you don't want a revision. I myself will never have it done again. If at the 6 month point I am still not happy I am contacting the office where I pay and I am filing a dispute. Good luck to u and I hope everything works out for all of us. Keep us updated!! Thanks!

You looks great, I really took a good look over your pictures to see what you are talking about, honestly I did not see. You looks fabulous but like Jennifer said only we know how we want to looks and feel good about it. I am only 2 weeks I know I looks much better then before but I cannot say yet that I am 100% satisfied. I know I will find details that I will not be happy about it. Thank you ladies for posting it helps a lot .

daisyborges, thank you very much. I appreciate your feedback. I think we have a very nice group of ladies talking to one another via this forum and I think it's priceless. I too am grateful for all the posts, so to all thank you:).

Hi Clarissa, thank you very much....and rest assured the comments will keep coming:) As with regards to your experience, I think the best recourse you have is this site. Be sure to list your Doc on this site and rate...let the Doc know you are providing reviews on this and other sites and that you do expect to be completely satisfied....they often then do come around. This has got to be frustrating for them too. It is my understanding that the LSL Dr's are recruited in an area and are then under contract to perform the LSL surgery. I don't think they can divert or offer a different surgery if patients come in through their platform. Imagine what some of them are dealing with too...they are trained surgeons performing a surgery then fingers crossed the surgery works out. I wonder how many patients do come back for a revision? Eventually they do have cost, I run several businesses and you have cost and overhead etc, and profits to an outsider are misleading. If you have 10 patients and 8 need revisions you will go out of business. What you are most likely experiencing is that very thing...great yet another unhappy client...!!! Sadly she doesn't have the bedside manner to deal with the unhappy ones...so it is up to us to help her see the light...we are not going away until we are happy....and you are correct, either fix it or refund the money so we can go elsewhere and have it fixed. For the Dr's they need to take a closer look at the services they are providing under their LSL contract and question it! I know that my Dr has the ability to do a full face lift at his other clinic. I think that LSL should offer different options...i.e. LSL for the very few that it will benefit and a full face lift where the Dr can discuss both options, results and cost associated and the patient decides. I mentioned this in my LSL survey as well. Then no one can really be upset with the choice they make and the outcome. Not having that choice in the beginning and faced with unsatisfactory outcome is the problem. Lastly, LSL should be diligent to only recruit board certified facial plastic surgeons. In my case I at least did get that...but this practice of hiring ENT's or other specialty docs to perform facial plastic surgery is an outrage, and should never be done. I would think that LSL should be interested in that opinion, I would think it would lessen the unhappy clients, lawsuits and complaints etc if they simply did that. I would be happy to offer my consulting services on how to improve the LSL practice:). Once again all the best and I'll be in touch.

Thanks for ur response, my doctor is board certified! I was so hoping that I would be so happy with my results that I would have been willing to support LSL by telling everyone I know and even doing a commercial or working at the center telling everyone about my wonderful experience. I would have given them so much business. I have over 600 friends on Facebook and I also had friends waiting to hear about my experience so they could consider doing the procedures themselves. I happened to be the guinea pig. I figured I had nothing to lose and only good could come out of the experience. I, like u, am still not completely unhappy with my results, they r better then they were! I am now writing a letter to the Dr. and the next time I go for a visit I will drop it off to her. We will see where that leads? I will keep u updated!! Thanks for ur replies!!

I did my procedure 2 weeks ago. I am still happy with the result, but again with the swelling my face looks smooth without wrinkles. I am a little concern about my right side it looks like it was pulled too much. I will wait a little more to see if once the swelling goes down it will looks ok.

Hi Daisyborges, yes 2 weeks is way to early to tell how things will look. It takes at least 4 weeks plus for the majority of the swelling to subside. Once that happens you can see where you at. Glad to hear you are doing well and are overall pleased. Please take lots of pics and post when you are ready, they really help the community a lot. All the best.

Hi Clarissa, I haven't been back to the Doc yet. I had to postpone my appt form the 15th to the 22nd because of a business event I need to attend. Much like you I am not sure what route I want to take. Some days I look at it and think OK if he can tweak this then it would be fine, but I also wonder if the same procedure would yield any improvement? I think there is a basic flaw with the procedure and that is what all the other surgeons talk about. You just cannot do a FL in a couple of hours. When you read what these Dr's talk about and how involved the procedure actually is you can see that what we get is a substandard quicky. There are probably quite a few people out there that are 100% satisfied but I am not one of them. But be careful about the not paying part. Not sure who you have your arrangement with but if you don't go about it the right way, they can ruin your credit and you don't want that. You may want to speak with an attorney before taking action on your own. Sometimes a letter from a lawyer may spark them to do something...I would ask for a complete refund, find another Doc and get an actual full facelift. I paid cash upfront for the whole thing so I am really screwed there with regards to the money part. But as I said the jury is still out for me, once I speak with my Doc, I'll have more feedback. All the best to you.

Thanks Jennifer.

Hi Connie Lea, no I didn't have any fillers. Although doc suggested that I might get fat transplant on the marionette lines in the future....I am considering it. Glad you like the updates....hopefully soon all issues will be resolved.

Hi Marie, sorry for being tardy and just getting back to you. Well I paid $10,500 for lift, eyes and laser. I am not exactly sure on the cost of a regular facelift but I believe it's between $10,000 to $15,000 depending on the Doc. You might want to check on this site on posts that are not LSL there is a different section I believe. It has been a little disheartening to see some of the jowling returning, again I call it a chipmunk look...I didn't actually have it before the lift. I appears to me that they didn't tighten part of the neck in the right place and that's why it looks that way. Again it is still better than before but not what I had expected in the end. At this juncture I would definitely recommend checking on regular lift as well as LSL. The idea of going in again is not appealing and I am not sure I will opt for it even at no cost because I don't want to do the same thing again if it does not work. I feel that I see what I saw talked about on the blogs, nike swoosh etc and the other surgeons comments are that the LSL just doesn't address all the issues associated with the aging in the lower face and neck region. I still give my Dr high marks but if I had to do this over again I would opt for a full lift versus the LSL. Hope this is helpful. I'll keep everybody posted on my progress.

Hi Daisyborges, thank you for your comments. Yes, I will post on my progress. More to come.

Hi Clarissa, I totally agree. I think what is really going on is that the initial swelling hides what didn't work. I look at my day 11 pics and they to me look the best, then little by little as the swelling subsides you see that areas that we wanted to tighten are not, its just really strange. I think that is what they talk about when they say that LSL does not work or last. I would say that it works to some extend but not to the extend that we would hope and expect and that is probably just the flaw with that procedure overall. When wake up in the morning I like may face the best, you know that morning puffiness hides that weird look then as the day progresses it doesn't look as good. Again I see improvement, I now longer have the deep lower face jowling that really aged me but those damn chipmunk looking things are driving me nuts:)...well we'll see. As with the laser I see some improvement on skin but I had very good skin to begin with and that does not concern me as much...chemical peels though,I think are better in the long run. Right now my first concern is the revisions on some scaring I have one on my left eyelid where the sutures opened up and the incision above my ear on that same side that has some bunching, this will be addressed in Aug...on the eye I am waiting a bit longer. I will discuss my jowling concerns with the Doc then and we'll see what actions I will take at that point. Do you have any pics you could post, I think they are very helpful for others to see. All the best and thank you for your comments.

I totally agree with u, I do see an improvement, my side profile is definitely better but not the results I had at the 2 week point! My face was so defined and chiseled. I had a blood vessel pop in my face so that was something else I had to deal with, still dealing with it!! My face on the left looked like I had mumps! Still all hard, especially under my chin where they did liposuction. All lumpy!! I am a perfectionist when it comes to my face and when u r investing that much money I want perfection. I now have an appointment with my doctor on Thursday at 4 to address my issues, we'll see? I really don't know what can be done except more surgery to retighten the skin and I don't want to go through this procedure ever again!! I was told it would last 10 years and it hasn't even lasted 2 months? I think the ads r misleading and they don't promise the results they say that u will get. Didn't really take pics, should have!! Its nice to know that someone out there is going through something similar. Thanks!

Hi Clarissa, thank you for your reply. I think unfortunately there are many that are experiencing what you and I see! I was truly hoping to be one of the happy ones and could just report on a positive note...sadly...not so! One thing you may want to do is take a look at the pics the doc took of you prior to the surgery. I didn't take a lot of pics before and should have but when I went to the office and saw the pics he took I was pleased to some extend as I could see the improvement in certain areas. I will get a copy of mine and you should probably request the same for yours...they do help...but they then also help in pointing out what's still amiss. Let us know how it goes on Thursday. I also think it is important for these docs to know that we are sharing our experiences on this site. They are interested in growing and maintaining their businesses. And while you may not have legal recourse as they make you sign off on everything sort to speak....this is much more damaging if we are not happy. I still very much believe in my doc, he is a board certified facial plastic surgeon and had great reviews...I will give him every opportunity to make this right for me, just not saying it will be more of the same approach, a different approach, and one he is more than qualified and capable of performing may be in order. More to come. All the best.

Connie Lea, thank you for your comments. I will update as soon as I know what the resolution will be. So far haven't heard back from my Doc but I am sure I will. I certainly would rather not have to go through any additional surgery but I cannot see this resolving on its own. More to come.

Hi Jennifer, yes I will let you know. Yesterday I was kind of pulling at my skin from different directions to see where it would look right and when I pulled the skin ever so slightly on the sides of my neck the issue looked resolved. When you read some of the concerns with LSL mentions is made that LSL shortcuts the neck area and I can see that now. I looked at it for a while thinking they didn't tuck enough there and low and behold had he done it I don't think I would be posting this now. Again I really like my Dr and he has been very helpful and accommodating, my hope is that he agrees and will fix the issue. I haven't heard from him yet which is a bit unusual but I do have to see him for the correction I need on one of my stitches so I called this morning to set that up, he is supposed to call me later today on this and I will address this as well. I really want to be the one reporting that this was a success. My goal has always been to report the experience and outcome accurately...so here it goes and more to come. All the best...PS: thank you for your reply on my other post and likewise I follow you closely as well.

I also am very thankful for your posts. I had my LSL done on June 10, 2013 and I think I am getting a little anxious with my neck area under chin where the lipo was done. I hope it smooths out because right now it is very lumpy.

Hi Char2013, well June 10th you are just a little over a month. Best I can tell you is keep massaging the area and use cold and hot compresses. Maybe you can post some pics then we could better assist you with your concerns. All the best.

Hi Vanit, can you post pictures so we can see what you are concerned with? Thanks