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went to have spider veins removed and burned and blistered - Newport Beach, CA

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April 30.2013 - I definitely have a scar but...

PSYCHE101April 30, 2013
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April 30.2013 - I definitely have a scar but something else has shown itself. The area on my check that was blistered has hypo pigmentation (lack of pigment) ao there is a white circle about the size of a quarter with the scar on the middle. Also the skin texture is different.

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Emerico Csepanyi, MD

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Pearlygate
May 3, 2013
Do sue them , demand not only your money back but compensation. Did she not listen when you said it was your nose only? and what did you say when she started going all over your face?
PSYCHE101
May 6, 2013
Hi! I am going to try and get compensated plus get reimbursed for what it's going to take to get my face returned to normal. I didn't say anything when she was lasering places other than my nose because it felt like she was using a large device - something like a paddle (I couldn't see it because I had covering over my eyes) and she was using extreme force on the entire side of my face so I couldn't isolate the area she was working on. There was so much force - it felt like she was using her body weight as well - that I had bruising too. I had never had this done before so I wasn't sure exactly what to expect.
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Jezzebel
June 21, 2013
I had one larger and so visible in photos spider vein on my cheek and went to a dermatologist about it. She zapped it with her laser (I don't remember what kind) but also zapped others that I'd not even noticed. After that, I did notice more and she said it normally takes 3-4 visits to do a thorough job (at a few hundred dollars a visit). I've been twice, and I was not burned at all. I did have bruises all over my face that kept me in the house for a week each time because it looked like someone had been pounding on me, but after the bruises faded my face was fine. Since then, however, I've noticed more larger, longer ones on the same cheek the initial red vein was on in one circular spot. These are spread out and feather in fine red lines down my cheek. They weren't there when I started this process. I was going to bite the money bullet and go back at least one more time, but now I'm afraid to because I do not know if the new, seemingly worse spider veins are there merely by coincidence or if the lasering triggered more ruptured veins. My vascular surgeon says he removes them with that targeted needle, like greenstar mentioned, and he charges $400 for 30 minutes (my dermatologist took less than ten each time). That is a lot, but not terribly so for where I live (very high medical care prices of all kinds, especially specialists). If I'd gone to him in the first place, I may have had the same or better outcome for a few hundred dollars less. Having said that, however, he did tell me that, although it is rare, there are two *possible negative side-effects." One is for the treatment to create more broken spider veins that spread out in a mass (there is a medical name for it and can be triggered by the procedure). Two, is for the treatment to leave dark, stripey lines on the face, permanently. He said those outcomes are rare but that they *can* happen. My dermatologist said absolutely nothing about any possible negative results from her laser treatment. I've not found anywhere online, yet, that says laser treatment could trigger more vein breaking. I've only read that they could come back. Given I'm already living with the mortifying outcome of trusting a plastic surgeon (Oh that. It's never happened to *me,* so you'll be thrilled with what I just talked you into), I'm thinking a few little veins that are easily covered at this point are not worth risking worse, no matter how small the risk. Hence, I've decided to leave them alone for now.
joye697
July 30, 2013
Sounds to me that you have a nice malpractice law suit on your hands....they should at least cover your expenses to correct what they did to you. Plus time out of work, pain and suffering...go for it!
PSYCHE101
July 30, 2013
Yes, I agree! I stillhave to wait another month until they can perform any corrective procedures. I, of course, wanted to have it done immediately but every Dr said I need to wait to see exactly what damage they had done and given my skin a chance to heal. Well, interestingly enough about a month ago another scar appeared right above the first one. Because my skinn was still so swollen it was puffed out and not visible - EXACTLY what the dr.'s said would happen and why I needed to wait. FYI - the big crackdown these days by the Medical Board are 2 things: 1) Dr. over-prescribing oxycontin and 2) medspas performing procedures they are not trained to do and injury and disfiguring people, and some permanently. Thanks for your post!
joye697
July 30, 2013
Sounds like you are on the right path...keep your photos and if I were you I would see an attorney so that you don't miss out on recouping what you can from this outfit. And more importantly I hope that the Dr's can eventually correct what they did....good luck!
IceAge
October 10, 2013
What kind of correction have they recommended? I had something similar happen to me in almost the same spot as you! I've tried dermarolling but I don't think it's going to cut it.
PSYCHE101
October 11, 2013
Sorry to hear you had the same thing happen!!! Have you filed a complaint with the medical board? I would urge you to do so. The Dr who oversees the MedSpa (or any facility) has liability so make sure to file the complaint even if he/she didn't personally perform the procedure. If the person that performed the procedure is a nurse you can also file a complaint with Dept of Consumer affairs as they oversee licensing of nurses. The investigation process can take awhile - you don't need to do much - just takes the agency awhile to get together all the paperwork and decide whether the complaint warrants further investigation. I am happy to say I have been informed by both agencies they are investigating my complaint against the dr and nurse. Sorry to be so lengthy but both agencies are grappling with unethical, unskilled dr's and nurses who are performing procedures outside of what they are able to successfully perform. That said, I saw 4 plastic surgeons and we still don't have a definitive plan. I just hit the 6 month mark that i was told I would have to wait until in order to see all the damage. Sure enough within the last month another scar has appeared above the original but because of the swelling I didn't see until just recently. The concensus amongst the 4 seems to be a full laser facial resurfacing. Because my scars are rather deep, the only way to even it out it is to laser the entire face. The texture around the scar is different as well. Prices range from 8,000.00 - $10,000.00 to repair.
Krissygirl23
April 3, 2014
Dont [RS bleep] them off. I gave them a bad review on yelp, and they told me that I cant come back! No joke. I told the truth about their poor services, and they refused to refund my money, and continued to berate me! Telling me that Im aging and need more procedures. All in all, I would take lots of pics and see an attorney asap girl! So sorry for your expieriences. Best wishes!
realself108
September 25, 2014
I am sorry for your bad experience and I hope that you recover! Can you tell us which laser this lady used on you?
joye697
August 18, 2013
I don't get it how can they charge so much and not give results...its basicall robbery or we are paying for them to disfigure us....I paid $210.00 and was told that that was a 50% off special...had the treatment was never told it would take 2 or more treatments...so basically I will have to pay 420.00 next visit with no guarantees that they will be gone.
IPLissues
January 14, 2015
Agree. Total BS. Give us your $$, it's great, no risk, oh, oops, - go away, it's all in your head. They are counting on the fact that most people who are injured will hide their faces after and be too embarrassed to talk about it.
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Jezzebel
October 14, 2013
Hi all, I saw my dermatologist recently for something else and while there I asked if it was possible to trigger more spider veins receiving the treatment she provides with her laser and she said no, that it is physically impossible. She said people often notice more flaws in their face after part of it has been cleared, and new veins can appear later because they were going to anyway, but that lasering is not the cause. So, I'm wondering what others of you think about what she said?
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UPDATE: Well, I went to go see a couple of BOARD...

PSYCHE101April 23, 2013
UPDATE: Well, I went to go see a couple of BOARD certified plastic surgeons and the consensus is I need to wait at least 6 months before they can do anything. They said you can see that my skin is damaged and still swollen so until that heals to try another procedure when they aren't exactly sure how its going to respond to this MedSpa debacle, is just too risky. Of course, not at all what i wanted to hear. What I wanted was for them to say, lets schedule you for next week and get this taken care of! But this is what I NEEDED to hear and why I went to a board certified plastic surgeon. the Dr is the expert not me and it really makes me take a tougher look at MedSpas yet again. They don;t advise you really, they just sign you up for whatever you like. I really liked Dr. Shamoun, he took the time to meet with me and explain what was going on. Not just a nurse scheduling as many patients as can be put through the office in a single day. The estimates right now to get this corrected start at 6,000.00 and go up. Oh, have I learned MY lesson!

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skin475
April 24, 2013
I just read your article & found that you really suffer during your treatment time. I think that you must get some tips for your skin problem. spider vein Orange County
Xyzw
November 17, 2014
Why haven't you spoken to a lawyer yet?
Assffghj
February 24, 2015
Yes you need to get a lawyer ASAP!!!! I wouldn't let this go. There will be plenty of lawyers who will take your case then take their payment out of your settlement when you settle. Don't let them get away with this.
sparky222
March 23, 2015
Are you taking the Medspa to court???
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It's 4 weeks after treatment and the large blister...

PSYCHE101April 20, 2013
It's 4 weeks after treatment and the large blister has scarred. It's right in the middle of my cheek and it obvious even with sunglasses on. I have an appointment with a BOARD CERTIFIED plastic surgeon on Monday to see what needs to be done to correct the damage. I never in a MILLION years thought this could happen to me - I know NEVER go to a MedSpa for a major procedure but I thought the worst thing that could come of this was it might not work that great and I'd only be out a little money. I never even considered the fact that the person would be SO unskilled as to not even know to treat the correct area as was written in my chart!

If you have to choose a MedSpa - do your homework. While negative reviews maybe don't always give the entire picture, the MedSpa I went to had quite a few negative reviews (now I see them!) of pretty horrific things they have done to their patients, but what I also noticed is that when the MedSpa responded they were very condescending towards the patients and basically every response blamed the patient themselves saying THEY had done something wrong.

I called the MedSpa on 4/19/2013 and Kathy Mohammadi, the RN that performed the procedure, doesn't work there any longer. A quick Google search and it appears she already has a business called Muguet Laser and Skin Care. BUYER BEWARE!!!!!

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