I'm still watching to see how cellulaze turns out....
I'm still watching to see how cellulaze turns out. It may have helped. Idk yet. Lipo on one thigh seems fair, the other not so much. 1 month post op. Well see what needs touched up there. As for Axillary..Idk about that either. Just have to see how skin settles. Kind of a mess right now and keeping bandages wrapped around all the time def limits clothes. Good I have lots of zip up hoodies. The eyelift, as in a few Dr. Questions I have had has been so depressing and such regret. My eyes look much older, rougher, shape is way different, sunken in and one is totally different shape tham the other. I use to get compliments alk the time on my eyes. I just wanted the am bags gone so didn't have to use ice each am and upper lids lil freshened. Ugh. Huge mistake. I saw a, girl at the gym tonight I hadn't seen in years and I was so self conscious and wanted to pretend I didn't know her. She hugged me and I was just simply embarrassed, I'm sure she was thinking what did she do to her face. That's how I feel ..what did I trust somebody to do to my face. I'm off work a month now with no pay, and so depressed. I'm a Personal Trainer and do modeling for a living. Now I hate my eyes and my face just doesn't look like me with these eyes changing my looks. I don't want to see anybody. Don't want them thinking what the hell happened to her face. I really thought this surgeon was ok. Then when went to ask about eyes he cut me off so quick...told me I'd I didn't like in 6 mths he'd look at them. He'll to the NO he won't be looking at them again. I only have 2 eyes. He already messed them up enough. Surgery was in Baltimore MD area. So really I have no good review of three diff things. Cellulaze I'll let you know later. Hoping somethimg positive came out of thiz for over 11,000 dollars. Single mom here, kids going into college n my wgole life is about them, working and house. The lipo is all bubble bumpy still, have my doubts it will get mucg better...well see...Sure lil swelling still. I have worked out 30 yrs. I skipped 4 weeks except for walking on treadmill or elliptical with very lil resistance so things could heal. I feel like such a waste of money, time and now I need to save more to get revisions. Just sickening. I'm so upset with myself for trusting and thinking things would be ok. I called a legal firm. The lady that takes the info said you won't believe this but I'm sitting here with stitches in my upper eyelids. WOW! I said you mean you had an eyelift? She said yes, just upper. I said are your incisions symetrical? She said yes. I said hown do you feel about it so far, she was gushing saying she loved it already. I just broke down and started to cry and couldnt even talk. This makes me break down all the time, her saying she loved hers and me being worried from day one with the incision placement and the fact he never ever ever measured me one time before I was under day of surgery. I thought he would before I went in, I asked right then too, he said oh no, they use something in surgery. Had I not had that patch on making me feel really weird ( the nausea patch) and tired n so thirsty from it.. n sat there 2 5 hrs waiting, I would have perhaps said NO!!!!!! Should have been my red flag. Lady At Legal Firm Said She Was Measured Many Times Awake. Ugh another thing to make me want to throw up...which is what happens at the gym with all the mirrors...not fun looking in them. I feel like a, freak because it's not my face I'm looking at I can't really post full face pics..wish I could. You'd so agree. I sent pic to a friend and he said yes the new eyes are much older than before. So crushing just has to be a dream.
Though I should add a before, can't relate unless you see before. I just saw there is a surgeon in NY that specialises in giving ppl their body back that was changed from other surgeons. Already left a message there. I'll be researching him.
Sure def getting better with time lmao. 1100 in fillers n deep dug out corners u don't fill.
Why do I see all these pics of ppl happy after this? Oh that's right mine were messed up..that's why. Suppose to open eyes and refresh. Jokes on me...I'm being puked right??! Sloppy. Not personalised at all. Just ripped to pices. Sloppy suturing as well. Damn wish he had picked the lady that didn't model to pay the bills and take care of family. In front of 1000s in a weekend or even day. Now that's jacked all to heck up. Legal time fo sho. Funny I called a legal firm the lady that answered the phone said you won't believe I'm sitting here with stitches in my eyes. I couldn't believe it. Didn't even have her stitches out yet. I said well how do your incisions look, she said good. I said are they symetrical. Yep she said. I said how do you feel about it so far, she said she loved it already. Didn't know how upset I was until when she said that I broke down n started to sob and had to make myself stop crying to finish the phone call. Happy for her yes, she said I'm sorry, I shouldn't have told you that...I said no I'm glad for you....and you just made my case/point. I should be happy too. I'm no idiot, I know what I'm seeing. Eyes won't all if a sudden get bigger when they were made smaller, skin won't disappear that was left..in fact will get more with relaxing and less swelling. Drooping eyelid wasn't there at first ..my lower lids won't alk the sudden go straighter across after been pulled up round. I understand healing to get complete result, but cmon.... two diff eyes are two diff eyes... I'm a hell of a fighte if I get screwed..so I'll do what I gotta do, my face helped me afford this surgery in the first place. How I saved up for it. That's silly those of you who let these guys touch your face after they jack it up to begin with. Insane to me.
5/4 Prom night breakdown after ugly pics
Posting couple updates. See more changes again. Noticing more why the one eye is different and looks smaller. The lower lid is higher and curved up while the right is a more round eye at bottom.
Ps. Few days ago I went n asked for 2 units of botox just to see if we could get my one brow that is always lower to raise. I was trying to stay away from getting all areas done because I want a consult with natural eyes when I visual a revision specialist. I know my face well. I told her after she said putting it in the pull down muscle will help raise it. Hmmmm well I said I can't and don't put botox in the second injection that most do on the eyebrow. I get a flat line eyebrow ...guess what she did ...she followed thst same muscle up n put it up about 2 inches higher than right on the brow. I was very clear about my flat line that happens ...thought she got a diff muscle because she was up higher. When I came home n saw it kicking in 2 days later I was ready to cry once more..I felt where the sore spit was from the injection n followed it right down to the very muscle I always Say do NOT inject here. In before pics u see that lower brow is fixable .... she Obv had no clue how to accomplish that. Now hoping my usual girl can get the other muscles around to help lift since we only did thst one and 2 units I hope we can counter it. This lady was at the American Laser skin care. The lady at the desk there can look a lil freaky with her botox. I so bad want to tell her..U know what..u don't have to look like that lol. Get somebody that doesn't do a standard botox and customizes it to your own face. So much for saving on botox and fillers. I'm going to go puke now from all this bs.
skin around one eye is way worse than before surgery
I thought the idea of this surgery was to tighten up lose skin. My under eye skin especially on the left eye is pretty rough looking. I was never told to put ointment in them after surgery. I saw ppl mentionin it so I asked if I could. All that swelling and days if ice water is going to wreck skin. Ointment would have been nice. Consent water takes out moisture. Left eye def will get revision. A worse looking mess wsant in my plan. When I originally asked about this surgery it was because I felt I was spending too much time on eye creams and cover up. Made no differernce.. but made it more beaten up and the outside of the eye a total wreck. Which was not the case prior.
lines around eyes so much worse after eyelift .
I really thought one of the reasons for eye lifts was to freshen the eye and tighten the skin. My left eye I keep waiting for it to get better..but the wrinkles are there to stay that are so much worse after. No idea why... it's literally sickening. I use expensive eye creams and always wear sunscreen on my face. The skin is just ruined around that eye. Assuming not enough was taken away after fat was stripped out. Never would have done this had i know it would be worse after. I will have it fixed and done correctly .
.I paid for it to be done correctly in the first place. I don't even want to think 90 5 yrs from now if I dont. Yuck. Left is 3 times worse than right. I have many many close up pics In 2014 to show eyes prior and close ups in videos as well. Course the left eye is still higher than the left too and the corner is rounded n goes up a lit when I smile.
More updates. 5 weeks post op. I'm sure my wrecked extra skin will vanish at like 20 weeks lol
.....and the smaller eye will grow n get the almond point on the outside at like...idk..24 weeks out. Bahaha yea I try to laugh about this sheit cause its all I can do. My bday is in a month and this wedding in August I have to laugh no more crying. Such a waste to have done this. So my rating of eye surgery is a 2. No puffy eyes in the am at least..but hey ice helped that for free....
Getting sick if the deformed looking incision that won't go in crease. Saw it in a pic that was three feet away today
More Healing means more sunken. This is redic in 2014
I woke up the other day and all of a sudden my eyes look like I had the flu and sickly. All I can figure is more swelling and healing is settling them and now they are deeper yet. Got a good pic to show the hack Job on the skin around left eye. Can't usually get it with cam. My were NOT like that before. Went today yo pick out a wedding dress for my daughter and my mom's dress.... i wish I could turn the clock back and have this to have never been done. Even my axillary is worse than before. Had to pick a diff dress than I wanted because of it. The skin was loose and gross looking over the dress. This is why I did it now it's worse. He made 3 things I had done out of four worse. Please if you are having surgery in Maryland ask me first. I'll disclose name soon. Legal matters first. I won't take this with no action. I should have been told he was going to age my eyes, dig them in, cause gross skin around them, take out all the tissue thst youth has, make my axillary look like a wrinkle puppy and not finish and count our my right ass cheek ..n leave it more bumpy than before. Must have been one bad day. As patients we shouldn't be treated like what we are asking for doesn't matter and anybody with a brain would know a women doesn't her eyes hollowed out so he can put fillers in them every year for thousands more nor does she want wrinkles made day of surgery ...nor does she want her butt started and not finished then have to pay for all of this to be done over as best it can even be and miss more work thar has No vacation pay. I find it sickening. He knew I modeled too, so why take a chance if he could NOT deliver. How would he feel his income was ruined because of negligence and him barely touching my eyes before surgery. Yes once he picked up the right lid to see it. That's it. Day of surgery he took a marker and put quick lines on my upper lids that's it. Never told me anything except they can put filler in to fix tear trough...never ur eyes will be hollow after if we do this or that. Never went into detail about it. If he didn't have time then he should have said No. Now my time is messed up all the time from worry and upset and feeling sick. I went to my old gym yesterday. It's funny how going to an old place u saw ur face in the mirror for years then seeing it totally diff looking cuz ur eyes look sickly...it really hits ya how diff it is. When I say old gym, I mean 1 year ago, not 10. I just want to wake up from this, but all u can do is fight and try and make the best of my daughter's wedding sadly there will only be one day of pictures, one day of video on her wedding day..and I will be so self conscious and not want any with her. I had my idea they would up their date to this summer so renting was cheaper for nursing school. Refreshed and nobody should know u did it?? Hmmm i feel ppl prob think I'm sick and something is wrong with me. He took away my smile and my happy eyes and I feel my nose doesn't even go on my face right now. Ppl like that should not be allowed to practice n ruin lives, it affects now what I cam help my daughter with for weddinv, because in 6 weeks I made 1600 dollars for work before taxes. After I paid 11,000 for surgery and 1100 more for fillers after. That's like being raped!!
The Hollow Eye Lift
I find it unbelievable that surgeons still do this under eye lift which they know makes the eyes hollow when so many good surgeons pick the other choices now to do a goof satisfactory job. I never considered once about a hollow eye, because I didn't think of myself as having a hollow eye before. Just knew my tear troughs were getting a lil darker and more pronounced. Now how cam a surgeon who is taught and done this for years be so poor as to do this to patience still and not do a decent evaluation. I just can't get over it. I think I'll start going to their lil seminars or open houses and show what an eye lift looks like to future victims. Tape a pic of my old eyes on my shirt with a date on it. At the very least I could be outside at the door ;) That ought to fo it. Maybe show my Axillary skin now that will either have me spending 15,ooo on a breast lift to see if it tightens thst skin or getting skin removal with a big scar on my under arms. After I get it balanced out since he did more on one side than the other of course.
Make sure your surgeon understands when u tell him not to worry about your eyeliner that he knows it's ok that can be fixed later..it's more important to not give wrinkles and bad incisions vs a tattoo that can be fixed. I live 5 min from the girl at the Cosmetic surgeons office that did my liner. He asked if that was a tattoo. I said yes. He said he'd save it...i said thst doesn't matter it can be fixed. Now I'll need a knife to heighten the incisions making wrinkles under eyes instead hmmm isn't the surgeon. And should know what results a low incision under eyes will do, oh wait....he also didn't understand what happens with a straight out incision across upper either, so guess not. Actino like no it all God doesn't always work I guess. Lowly patients getting surgery aren't allowed to question and certainly can't ask why aren't you measuring me sitting up awake even one time...hmmmm. too bad I had that patch on making my throat her n feel high for sickness after or I would have said forget the surgery on eyes n just do cellulaze. He made one swoop with market on axillary too so no idea how far he was going with that either. I see moat ppl get before pics right before surgery. I had none with my marks on....none since week before...in didn't lift my arm for him.to draw on each side to say how far back he was going with lipo ..hmm could that be why he just free styled it and has one side auctioned put and the other side not...is this why my eyes seem a bit free style too...he just decided to wing it. Well happy year to me!!
Almost 7 weeks post
So this is what it looks like when your eyes aren't out at the orbital rim...hmm I wondered why they looked smaller, mow in see my eye bones..guessin that's not normal because I never really look at ppl and see their eye socket bones. I can't wait to get my face back.
Eye lift revision progression
I'm consulting with a top ehe revision specislist in the next few weeks. That's if I get my medical papers from my surgery that I asled for a month ago. Still no papers. The office of in LA I'm going to seems very nice and carrying and knows it's not been a picnic dealing with this surgery day from cluster#a&* blvd. I had botox done to help not see the extra skin on the one eye. It calmond things a bit. Still have smaller eyes and one smaller than the other and different shape and hollow under for having filler twice already, other than that it's great. Lol
I feel like done ever taking a pic with my face in again.
Wanna cry every time..sometimes can't help but. Went to a CVS today and printed out pics from profile pics on my FB prior to surgery to show surgeons in LA. The lady at the register and I got to talking n she saw the difference and said yes I can see why you would be upset. Blah. Tired of looking tired and sickly. I'm a very healthy, fit, active female and it just can't show in my face now that this surgeon stripped my eyes and changed them. Still trying to make the best of it but then as the day progreases they get hollow again and i think I could hold a pencil in the gully under them. Between the bone and eye. Wtf! I want to know what this man was thinking doing this?? If you are going to get your eyes done
.plz pay special attention to the under before and after and the shape. I see a lot of surgeons really respect the tissue under the eye and know that's youth...and keep the persons eye shape...which goes with their entire face and makes them unique. Plz ask too Is that filler you put under there after surgery or did you leave tissue. I don't think anybody wants to take 1000 a year and put under their eyes forever till death. That's what I'll be doing. In 10 years 10,000 saved would be nice... instead. Plus risk of biofilm bacteria infections...then what?? Then ur screwed big time!! If he needs to fill under after his ripping your tissue out clear down to the cheek bones.........u need to walk the f out of his office..or get the filler now n walk the f out. Way better off. Oh and BTW I asked for my medical records over a month ago never got them yet..hmm if he dud nothing wrong. Why not give them up. Guess somebody is lacking a lil confidence in the shitty, sloppy, half assed, negligent job they did. Exactly!!
suction sound, dry and hurt at 2 mths
Wondered why my brow (center between eyes) has seemex heavier than before. When i lift that area up i get air under my lids and the suction sound. That seems to be getting worse pretty fast. I guess all the swelling is going down and the skin is tightening up. Too much skin was taken off in the corner of the eye, so its pulling on my brow there. Lifting it causes the lid to pull away from the eye making the sound and letting air under my lid causing dry out. Now im getting a tiref or mad look with it constantly pulling that area down. Thank god i didnt have my botox lady do anything to lift my brow much. My kids would have been constantly away from eyeball. Really bad today and hollow is worse every day now. Ususlly when we put our concealer under eye its flush and you glide across, my under eye area has a finger tip size gully where my eye bone starts and eyeball is. Not sure how any trained, educated professional could make all these mistakes. Add low heavy brow and very dry hurting eyes to the mix. Cant wait till next week to get some answers, advice, help with knowing what to do next to fix some of these issues. Be glad when this bad dream is over.
No, id never trust the person that operated on me for questions after.
He obviously wasnt upfront and honest wth what any of this outcome would be. I wasnt told my eyes would be stripped and aged 10 yrs, i wasnt told they would be dry and make suction noises as the lids pulled away from the pupil and my mid forehead would be heavy and pulled on because hed take to much skin away center of eye and strip it..etc etc with the eyes, i could go on and on in that area..lets not forget seeing my bones around my eyes, the huge dark circles clear down to my cheek bone...because it was all stripped. Going in we talked about my dark circies, under eye puff...only in am.... and a lil extra skin in upper lids. He was always in a hurry n never measured anything ever.
I did try to ask question on post op apt #1 and #2. I was treated like i was stupid for asking.... and he wanted out of the room. He told my mom after surgert mt one eye would get pretty bruised, guess he ran into sonething he didnt know how to do right. Idk my eyes were barely a problem and i feel like jumping off a cliff that i left him touch them and ruin them.
I also wont go to a person ( i just cant call him surgeon) that didnt feel the need to tell me your gym ass will never look the same once i take banana roll away. He didnt tell me he was educated as every other surgeon/person seems to be to know in 2014 there are places u dont lipo without creating a problem that isa 100 times greater than the issue one doesnt like. Instead of just taking from the banana....this man took it all. He has a dent in that area i could put my fist in.hmmmm. Instead of saying ill hollow out your eyes the rest of your life and you wont need am ice for 20 min a day..ill make u feel like a freak 23 hrs a day. I say 23 because 1 hr when u wake up now they look like hell because he changed my eye shape..just not a freak and hollow with am face swell..but by days end. I look redic once afain. Hollow...skin pulling from lids if i raise browse or move my face or rub lotion on.
He never said..im sorry but i dont know how to not take care of that tiny lil pocket u dont like on the right thigh..but i can make it ten times bigger and worse looking by digging all the tissue out from under it and now its like a ledge of meat and a big handful of extra above the dent. Completely opposite of what i wanted done. Unreal i feel like he had a problem with me and intentionally did all this. Knowing too i model and wanted to do a fitness competition. He made me feel ugly and i dont want to see anybody i know. I try hard to avoid ppl i know if i see them coming my way...i keep my head down. Its so embarassing. My smile is gone. My passion. I try to overcome, im a very strong person but its so hard. My job requires a smile, fun friendly. I cant do it. Im too mentally, emotionally and physically ruined.
Course i wasnt told either that most surgeons know doing axillary is a bad idea as well, unless you want skin removed as well. Nope wasnt told that either. I was told nothing, except i asked about flanks and he said he wouldnt do that it would leave skin....so with him being honest about that, i.assumed he was upfront with the rest.
In all if a patient wants a procedure done they best be a surgeon or at the very least. Spend weeks or months hours a day ....researching and researching to make sure you know almost as much as the surgeon as far as what can go wrong ...end results.... sadly you can not trust this certificate they get. You need to do your homework and because they act like they can do it means nothing. Makes me sick seeing before and after of eye lifts, where the ppl look refreshed younger lol lol. Its a joke. My eyes look like somebody sucked then in from inside of me. I cant even see them in the gym mirrors. Overhead light now means im the womem with no eyes. Im hollow black holes. Sickly, rough looking with a lopsided ass, and layers of skin under my arms that puddles above my bra now.
So just making clear why i wont go back after my 2 week post op to this Maryland Cosmetic Surgery Center. Oh thats right they are changing their name now to the street its on. Bellanova something like that. If you cant trust them to do the right thing once why would you trust them again or waste your time. I have a life to try and get back somehow. My early part of this year wasnt my best, so i did this for a pick me up and get reasy for an awesome summer. Now its so much worse and im spending all my time and money on this. My bday is mid June. Instead of going to a fund raiser prom like i had planned in June. Im spending thousands after only working twice in 8.weeks to fly to LA to speak with revision specialists. Its so so unfair. I want to give up n just die somedays, but u have a daughter getting married in August... yes 10 weeks...and a son thats 17. Only reason i dong give totally up. Its too much to deal with 4 diff issues or areas after such simple surgeries....or at least they sure seem to be for a lot of decent surgeons..... too bad i didnt know about real self first. :( So please im hear for amsweres to get my life back and hope i can save somebody from going through what i am. Its rough when your looks arent your income im sure....imagine if they were.... cant imagine this being done intentional, but its just too crazy. Seems too that anything done left handed was very bad. Flipped over for lipo right side is all wrong.....lipo on back axillary not done same either then left eye a real train wreck. We came to the conclusion that anything right sided on back is much worse and on front side left eye is bad. Little things one doesnt.condider
I need a left handed to fix me now. Redic.
See profile for all the pics. Please educate yourself!!!!
Update for Upper and Lower Eyelift Surgery
Well the fillers I had in La are starting to go away already once again. Its been 3 week. It just wont stick. Ill be doing it again to get by for my daughters wedding in August. Its sickening... I hate that look. Cant put your concealer on with the swipe of a finger anymore.. have to do it in two steps because the under eye area is deeper than the rest. Never had that problem before this surgery. Things they dont tell you before this surgery...... and you dont know to ask.... because you assume that a Drs. Job isnt to make you look worse than before a surgery that is to improve and area you are inquiring about.
They dont tell you your brow will drop after and upper eyelid surgery.
They dont tell you you cant get a brow lift them, because then your eye lids wont shut
They dont tell you you will look very different because of the brow dropping
They dont tell you you will probably have a different shaped eye
They dont tell you the two above combined together you may feel like you have an animal look to you
They dont tell you its A very BAD idea to take tissue and fat out from under or above the eye, yet some do
They dont tell you in doing the above.. you will look like you have the flu and are sickly
They dont tell you it will make any dark circled 10 times worse
They dont tell you its because they took all the tissue that hid the blood that causes the dark away
They dont tell you that you will have MUCH dryer eyes now
They dont tell you that it ruins that muscles in your eyelids and some rip the muscles out even YEP!!
They dont tell you that your eye lids are not as strong now and dont shut as fast (they shut for safety)
They dont tell you that fillers for the rest of your life is very costly VERY!! THATS If they even stick at all
They dont tell you that you can spend 1,000s in just a few months in fillers
They dont tell you that it seems to kinda of devastate the lashes for awhile
They dont tell you you will get headaches from pullin up your brow so much
They dont tell you you will age a lot from all the stress of all of the above
They dont tell you how stressed you will be
They dont tell you that some surgeons wont take fat away and tissue.. because of... see above
They dont tell you how much money you will lose researching options/Dr Apts
They dont tell you how it will affect your work
They dont tell you how it will affect your income
They dont tell you it will affect your family
They dont tell you it will affect your self esteem
They dont tell you the first thing you will do when you wake up is feel sick when the reality hits once again
They dont tell you they really dont give a shit either........
They dont tell you that they really cant fix it.. if they screwed it up to begin with.. why would u want em to
They dont tell you you will now feel like your nose is too big because they are dug in and its sticks out
They dont tell you sometimes they take way too much skin off top and you hear suction noises
They dont tell you stripping the upper lids also makes the light come in a closed eye more
They dont tell you some recommend a brow lift instead to save your eyes.........
They dont tell you some move the fat around in the lower vs stripping it all to hell
They dont tell you that most good Drs will measure before surgery.... and some just ... eh... dont
This is just from my personal eye surgery. I know several ppl now from on here that have even worse horror stories and their lives will be forever changed.... as mine is/was. I have lost so much this year following this.
One of my alien no eye pics.
Outside doin yard work... this is how this pic turned out. Now who takes pics and looks like this in them. Im 46... first time in my life I can tell ya that. I was at my daughters bridal shower.... pics of everybody in the shower pics... mine was the only one that looked like I had no eyes. Go figure. Kinda odd isnt it. Guess something went a lil wrong in this situation. I only prey that pics at the wedding go ok. Once in a lifetime day and this happened right before it.. i had no idea the wedding was goin to be this year before I ever got this surgery. They werent engaged then. Now this is what Im dealing with. Freak!
Good clue that the lids are all a mess.. the lashes run all crazy now
My eyelashes all swoop in to the middle of my face now. They kinda come straight out because of the lack of muscle in the upper lids. Guess that from taking too much skin away toward my nose. The lids are pulled in so the lashes all go inward and dont curl up the same. How is there not info on this so we are warned of all these little things. Im sure Im like the first eye surgery that didnt go so well... that must be it.... yea thats it!
Few more pics ... cause pics dont lie
Few updates from this last month, before fillers and after
4 mth and 2000 more spent on fillers for daughters wedding in a week. Bad timing for a bad surgery and a wedding
Tried fillers in upper eyes. Fine line... had to then have some desolved. Shut my eyes even more. Now one has less in than the other but oh well cant fix now wedding 6 days away and massive swelling and bruising from that. Started with fillers 3 weeks before. The surgeon that has 10 plus vids on youtube for fillers over did and my face was so swollen and bruised. I was devastated yet again ...with weeks till a wedding for one of my 2 children. So fillers then desolve. Oh u can see what desolver does to skin too. I have this bumpy stuff on top of my skin under eyes. We didnt add more to tear trough after desolving half..
So shows how it was over done times 2. Outside of eye he didnt touch when doing too much. When lids and muscles around eyes have been ruined and weakened, you have to really watch amount of filler..too much and it pushes your eyes closed especially if you smile.....for wedding we just yesterday did botox so i cant smile big in wedding pics. Because it shuts my "bad eye" kinda sad to stop your big smile... that makes me cry to think i had to stop my big smile at my daughters happy day. :(
I was suppose to be happy when she decided to get married.
And i am... could not have picked a better son.. love him..all the while im running 3 hrs total 2 times a week desolving and filling and botox for 3 weeks. Doing in stages to make sure no
Mistakes..cuz no time for more of them. Wedding isnt about me...
But i am the mom and plan to walk her down the isle with her father. If you ever consider eye surgery. Be 90 percent sure of your surgeon
Make sure he messures, leaves you with tissue..not gutted eyes that cost you 1000 every 6-8 weeks. More botox than ever. Swelling, bruising, hollow. Massive dark circles. Aka jus a nightmare. I have my face in a cam for work.
Make vids...dark circles/ no tissue isnt the ideal. Had no idea this was possible..let alone pay a surgeon to do it to you. 4 mths later i still cant grasp it.
Sickening!! My only daughters wedding
16 Aug 2014
4 months post
First few pro pics we get back with me in and I wanna be sick. Paid 40 with a tip to have make up done hoping the make up artist would be able to help my "bad eye" after I explained to her how they were messed up. Well here are my pics.... I have 2 very diff eyes in all the pics so far. Not her fault...she did them the same... the left eye he hacked up goes smaller, raised up and shut when I smile. Its really bad on wedding day. If i pull my face down as women do to do mascara...it totally pulls away from my eye ball. Its like the muscles were destroyed in it. You may not think 2 diff eye shapes and one much smaller would matter...specially cause I zoom in...but draw a pic once and try it... it can make you look cross eyed and like something is very wrong... like a stroke victim. Im dreading these pics with me in. I dont want them posted on apps. I feel like a freak. Very sad. :( Ill only get those pics with my kids once and now its a reminder of this horrible year and experience.
Almost 6 mths. oh look still have 2 diff eye shapes.. imagine that. No eye fairy fixed them yet while i sleep with the gels in m
20 Sep 2014
5 months post
Latest pics and time for more filler again or live with dark circles that make me look terminal. I wont even date like this. They are so awful. Dry now too a lot. Sleeping i really have to watch to keep them from drying out. Not sure what will happen when heat is on soon. Probably wont be good. I want this weird eye fixed. He closed it at corner, top and bottom.
7 mths ugly as ever. Wont let anybody see these sick terminally ill looking eyes. 3 layers or more of cover up. 1000s spent on fillers and gone already. I mean 1000 every cple months. Its unreal. So fat grafting in LA to fix this guys mess. Praying i can one day have my life back, my income and smile. I try my best but here i am again. Fillers gone, black circles, sunken ugly. He took away what i looked like instead of just taking 5 yrs off. This is not my face with these eyes. That was not in the surgery papers i was sent home with. That id have my eye shape changed, be sunken in, beady and dark rings. This office fought to get their 11000 i disputed with discovery. Yes im making sure the medical board is aware.
Just one more eye update.
10 Nov 2014
7 months post
7 months plus. Never ceases to amaze me how i dont look like me anymore.
Eye Revision Time.
14 Nov 2014
7 months post
I only need, fat grafting, upper lid revision and ptosis surgery, lower lid muscle fixed on left eye, corner of left eye top lid fixed ( makes me look cross eyed), lower lids pulled back down (especially where he shut the left one up way too tight and closed it), outter corners pulled laterally to open them again, and God only knows what all that will entail. Not sure how a surgeon manages to take almond sparkley eyes and makes them snake, beady, tired, dark ringed, sunken in, mismatched. We know it can happen now dont we. I do not wish to look half assed or half animal... i wish to look like me again. Now excuse me, i have a medical board complaint to finish. This hell should not happen to another person.
Happy Holidays. i skipped T-giving and will Xmas as well
13 Dec 2014
8 months post
All this mess this year and planning on surgery in Jan doesnt make for a happy time. Too much stress, packing, house to take care of, bills. Cant do Christmas. Im sure his kids will have nice presents though, while I up my home equity to 100,000 for surgery and being away and 2 mths no income. This is so absurd. Who wants their eyes to disappear in their head. Complete hack job. Starting a 4.5 hr surgery at 3 pm them im in the car going home at 730 hmmm yea ya think it was a rush job...yes id say so, but hey money money monet money..... could have did a diff day instead of steal 60,000 in income from me this year and 20,000 next off again. Sure seems like it would have been the right thing to do..now 40,000 in surgeries, consults, fillers, fat grafting. Sick!!!!! 150,000 we will be up to so i can look in the mirtor again and see me...go to the beach again one day, maybe feel ok to date one day, not feel mangled when i go to get in the showet. God forbid changing at the gym. Omg i asked for cellulaze to smooth legs and he frigging ruins me. Insane!
16 Dec 2014
8 months post
My job is in front of a computer and doing skype. I get so depressed seeing my reflection now i can barely finish a day. The circles...drawn down eyes, deep set empty and scared up tissue at sides, small uneven, beady, weird shaped are just unreal to me still. I pray in March Ill be fixed. I post a lot and review because I wouldnt wish anybodies beauty to be robbed and/or their younger looking self by somebody that was to freshen up an area..instead aged it, made it look tired, deformed, uneven, rough and black all around, i feel like a freak compared to what I was on April 1st 2014. If i could only go back in time. I would have never stepped foot in that office. Ever. Other surgeons would have done brow, and simply added fat or filler under eyes. I know, i have spoke with plenty since. Eyes are a key part of a face... focal point. He ruined my face by ruining my focal point. My fillers are gone at 4.5 mths and i spent a mint in them!!!!
Arent kidding when they say takes a yr to see results
24 Dec 2014
8 months post
Wow still seeing more damage. Lower eyelid muscle is pretty messed up. Still have ugly upper scars. Eye shuts from lax muscle. Cant believe I paid to improve and was made deformed all over. So much for smiling. My unmatched little beady weird eyes now. Sad these Drs can do this to ppl. I know im not alone. They should NOT be allowed to touch areas they have no business touching. Ocuplastic surgeons are the only ones in my opinion now should ever touch eyes. I highly doubt they ruin upper and lower lid muscles and make eyes much smaller and beady. Thats not the purpose of this surgery. Quite the opposite. Check out the lovely ruined saggy glut he took volume from as well. Can u tell which fell because of it?? I have had these tights for 15 yrs. Wear them on christmas. The left glut is similar to what i usually looked like...mi us the gully cannula running across my abductor area of course.
Eyes so dry cant sleep, humidifier running constantly
I was NEVER asked if I had dry eyes yet i just took screen shots of surgeons answering that very question on here. How they ask the patient prior to surgery and how the wont touch the muscles in upper lid if so..well clearly my upper lids were gutted. I was told they were "tethered" actually, when examined by a specialist in LA. I was asked whar outcome I wanted. I do have and have had dry eyes, since wat back at 20. I could never wear contacts because of it. My last eye apt the drs told me about dry eye options. How shitty is that, a standard question...STANDARD!!!! I was not asked. Wasnt told my muscles and lids would be tetgered, wasnt told my upper lids would now look 70 yrs old. This one is sick to do this to anybody. Sick. Look at my horrid incisions and stitching. I have nasty scars. I think about all of it the whole time i talk to anybody face to face. Dont even want to look at people. Im not a surgeon.. but i know now, the fix for what i said i didnt like that was going on with my eyes would have been tear trough filler, perhaps brow lift...or heck just give me my botox that i used to lift my brow again...vs ruining my life. Fine lines under eyes woild have prob smoothed with filler and a laser treatment, instead i now live with this ugly alien/animal like/dry eye/small/deep set/dark rings/uneven/different shaped (from prior shape and each other)/scared/unfeminine/much older/harsh/cold/sick/juat plain weird looking mess. What 15 minutes or even 10 in a consult could have saved me. Omg i just cant grasp it. All this avoided. Blows my mind. I even asked right before going in surgery if he was going to measure...i thought it was so odd nothing more was said about an eye surgery than, he touching my one upper lid and saying yea we could take a little therr. Oh and for lowers, asked if i wanted the fillers in tear trough during surgery. That was it, that my friends was my eye surgery/change the rest of your life/your confidence/your smile/your financial security/aged the rest of your face from all the anxiety and stress/family problems because of the stress/ social life is completely non existent, i hate going anywhere/ no holidays this year. Now flying out for revision (hopefully it even can be fixed) not sure because of the amount of skin he took. The inner corners are bad. The lids lift from eyeballs. Seems he put the incisions in a really bad place. Why he took all that from the inside corner god only knows. In my before pics there was nothing there. These surgeons who think they are God and over confident and just hack you up...gotta watch out for them. If your gut tells you to run the day of surgery because they put no morw regard toward your face but a line quick with a marker. Get the hell out. I even asked and was reassured it was ok..with a big smile....he measures in surgery......you know the...its ok, you are in good hands....... yea i see that now...from head to hamstring the hands i was in. I see it very clear, everytime i see a mirror. Looking at the split shot pics. I see a 60 yr old plus eye. Deep set aged. Thats not what i read was to be the outcome of this surgery, makes me sick seeing all the good results peoole get, then you have these that do the "1970" eye lifts on people....not telling them they dont even need it, there are other options for your questions and concerns. We arent surgeons, but you better damn well know just as much about any surgery or area you are inquiring about! You see what can happen by trusting. Cost you so much!
So worried about damage to my eyes as dry as they are
11 Jan 2015
9 months post
This cold weather and heat on is wrecking life even more. I have a humidifier on 24/7. Geothermal heat with a humidifier on the system too. It wakes me up they are so dry. Pretty scary and wonder how much worse it will get and whats happening while I sleep and they are dried out. Sick sick joke. I read up on what to do. I find info that makes me so sick. Had he done hia job by asking the most important questions in this, this would have been avoided. Obviously my lids were gutted, which makes no sense to begin with because there was little skin there anyway. So why rip out mt muscles and tissue there. I cant believe they disturb muscles in eyes anyway i had NO idea. Omg i would have nevver said ok to that. Never. Nothing was gone over with mw about eyes at all, except i was asked if i wore contacts. Last eye dr apt they even talked to me about dry eyes and the tear duct plugs. Hows that for dry eyes prior a surgery i had no idea would make them worse. You can see my skull all around my eyes now. Eyes shut look like nothing i have seen eyes should look like... isnt that when they do it? With eyes shut, so why do they look so stupid. Small upper lids, lashes dont curl up at all, lashes go in toward center of nose now. None on outer eye. Hollowed out, skull eyed, dark rings, horrible scars that are stretched now at inner corners because he took too much skin, beady, dry like sand paper, rough looking, just plain nasty all around. I hate going anywhere, because that means getting ready and trying to look good... i try then end up crying or so depressed time is ruined. Cant believe how scars are stretching. My point in doing upper lids was i thought i could stop getting botox in brow to pull them up. Now reading all i have... that doesnt even make sense, he should have known that. Hes the surgeon. If botox was my concern...and dry eyes. There were other alternatives, of which i wasnt told. I heard they said they spent more time with me than most. Lol funny then why didnt i know one risk about one of the most important parts of a womens appearance, her face. Why did i ask right before surgery if he was going to measure...also meaning talk about what he was going to do...why would i if i had a previous consult on it. Course he said he does it when you are asleep. Why did i trust this dr with a "degree" with my eyes???!! So afraid there wont be any revision can fix it. Cant put muscles back that were put in the trash can you. Can my lashes be right again if lids fixed...idk, unless skin grafting is done. The stretched scars tell his too much skin taken story. A 5000 surgery and another 30 minutes of the proper questions asked to me and time taken to tell me what this procedure involves could have saved me over a year ( or a lifetime, they will NEVER be right again ) of emotional devastation, damaging my eyes from the dry, my looks, my client base, and the financial ruin. Morbid sick is all i can think now when dealing with it. He touched my eye brow and said yea there is a little bit there we can do. Lol. Do you wear contacts and we put fillers in tear trough during surgery,, here is a pic of 1 lady. That was my eye consult. I really thought day of surgery hed measure and say is this ok. Omg it was my face!!!! My eyes!!!! Windows to the soul. Well my soul is sad and ruined. Pics dont lie. Its sick. Fiiller in tear trough and a fiture brow lift is what i would have told me if i were a surgeon. Hell i didnt even know they did fillers in eyes or that there was such a thing as fat graftinf in the last 9 yrs since i did tummy tuck. Patients inform yourself, cause not all will tell you the best choice for what your concerns are. I only wish i had seen this site prior surgery. I was a busy single mom who worked, trying to save ( now im in major debt cause of this), trusted the educated in these areas to take care of me and do what was best. Biggest mistake of mt life!!!! Hoping id get my career to last longer...instead he aged me 10 yrs. Now ppl guess my age instead of 34 36. Do u know how that feels???? I want to throw up.
Revision soon. No, i dont know what all can even be done to fix anything yet
17 Jan 2015
9 months post
Packing for one major expensive trip. Flying and revision surgeons arent cheap, especially eye. Guess the swim sit is staying home. No way this body after April 2, 2014 will be wearing a bikini again. Funny, March 2014 i put one on to show what i wanted touched up...its been a mess ever since April now. Depressing i cant ever go to a beach again, or anything involving a swim suit bottom. I can hide the eyes with sunglasses but i sure cant hide the bottom half. Having to major parts of your body ruined in one afternoon is quite depressing and life changing.
Revision started with a surgeon in Californina, needed one the best to fix my messed up lids
9 Mar 2015
11 months post
Im taking pics as I heal and Ill update for all of you that are going through something similar. I only wish my only issue was the eyes. Lots of anxiety still thinking what Ill run into trying to fix the lower half Dr. Lickstein ruined. Im updating when I still cant see all that great so bare with me. Takes a little bit to get vision back to normal. I will have a long way to go till I know what my outcome is and how deep and hollow I still am. Lifting the lids is said to help that a little bit. Im sure Ill be swollen for months. We wont add filler of course, till we know for sure. We talked about doing fat grafting. I had asked to do it, the surgeon wasnt thrilled about me wanting to do it because of all the scar tissue I have and it could get lumpy. I went with his thoughts on that and said no lets stick with fillers at a later date to save me the emotional stress of worrying about that on top of all the rest. Id rather see how well the lid surgery goes. He said I had so little skin he was wondering how he would flip my lids up and there was a lot of scar tissue and tissue missing. I feel like I already have more girly eyes again even with the bruising, lil incision and bruising i have. Im sure the swelling helps cushion so they dont look as hollow too... helping. I neeed those corners pulled out, upper lids lifted, looks like he also revised as much of the nasty scar he could on upper lids. He also had to do a canthoplasty on lower lids. He pulled the smaller shut up eye that was turned up down a little lower on the bottom as well. So basically he redid my entire eye shape. Pulled both corners out on both lids. I feel like i now have more of an almond eye again. Hoping the left eye when its done being swollen matches the right again like it did more before. Pullin that lower lid down farther should have helped a lot. The upper lid was also more droopy on the left eye. I think from what I see so far he fixed some of that nasty pucker I had that drove me crazy on the outside of the left eye. Im pretty excited about that. The girl in the recovery room showed me my eyes in a mirror right away and said your eyes look so pretty. haha I tried to see but light was hurting but I was quite impressed. Even then i felt like a girl ( even with no make up on ) I dont see that my eye lashes are all rolling inward now either and I feel they are flippin up as they should be and were not after Lickstein ruined the upper lids. So in all Im quite happy with my revison. For only being 2 plus days out. I feel so relieved. I know I have quite a battle ahead still .. finishing these up, getting my permanent tear duct plugs in the upper lids when healed. Its been a long road. Then working on lower half will be a crazy hard challenge. Only hope to find a dr as good for that. You cant even imagine all the appointments I have had up to this point.
i had eyeballs under shut lids prior lickstein touching them
Ill post this to show you why i cant judge lid revision just yet. Eyes are still sinkin and cat scan next week.
Somebody asked about eyes again, so here is this weeks sunken in my skull left eye. Looks like ptosis is still there or actually regressed and not sure how thats possible even, but here are the 1000 wors pics to prove and show. Never done with this insanity