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Almost 46. Decided to Do Something for Me and Do a Freshen Up. Eyelift Surgery, Cellulaze, Axillary Lipo and Lil on Thighs. - MD

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I'm still watching to see how cellulaze turns out....

gem202
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I'm still watching to see how cellulaze turns out. It may have helped. Idk yet. Lipo on one thigh seems fair, the other not so much. 1 month post op. Well see what needs touched up there. As for Axillary..Idk about that either. Just have to see how skin settles. Kind of a mess right now and keeping bandages wrapped around all the time def limits clothes. Good I have lots of zip up hoodies. The eyelift, as in a few Dr. Questions I have had has been so depressing and such regret. My eyes look much older, rougher, shape is way different, sunken in and one is totally different shape tham the other. I use to get compliments alk the time on my eyes. I just wanted the am bags gone so didn't have to use ice each am and upper lids lil freshened. Ugh. Huge mistake. I saw a, girl at the gym tonight I hadn't seen in years and I was so self conscious and wanted to pretend I didn't know her. She hugged me and I was just simply embarrassed, I'm sure she was thinking what did she do to her face. That's how I feel ..what did I trust somebody to do to my face. I'm off work a month now with no pay, and so depressed. I'm a Personal Trainer and do modeling for a living. Now I hate my eyes and my face just doesn't look like me with these eyes changing my looks. I don't want to see anybody. Don't want them thinking what the hell happened to her face. I really thought this surgeon was ok. Then when went to ask about eyes he cut me off so quick...told me I'd I didn't like in 6 mths he'd look at them. He'll to the NO he won't be looking at them again. I only have 2 eyes. He already messed them up enough. Surgery was in Baltimore MD area. So really I have no good review of three diff things. Cellulaze I'll let you know later. Hoping somethimg positive came out of thiz for over 11,000 dollars. Single mom here, kids going into college n my wgole life is about them, working and house. The lipo is all bubble bumpy still, have my doubts it will get mucg better...well see...Sure lil swelling still. I have worked out 30 yrs. I skipped 4 weeks except for walking on treadmill or elliptical with very lil resistance so things could heal. I feel like such a waste of money, time and now I need to save more to get revisions. Just sickening. I'm so upset with myself for trusting and thinking things would be ok. I called a legal firm. The lady that takes the info said you won't believe this but I'm sitting here with stitches in my upper eyelids. WOW! I said you mean you had an eyelift? She said yes, just upper. I said are your incisions symetrical? She said yes. I said hown do you feel about it so far, she was gushing saying she loved it already. I just broke down and started to cry and couldnt even talk. This makes me break down all the time, her saying she loved hers and me being worried from day one with the incision placement and the fact he never ever ever measured me one time before I was under day of surgery. I thought he would before I went in, I asked right then too, he said oh no, they use something in surgery. Had I not had that patch on making me feel really weird ( the nausea patch) and tired n so thirsty from it.. n sat there 2 5 hrs waiting, I would have perhaps said NO!!!!!! Should have been my red flag. Lady At Legal Firm Said She Was Measured Many Times Awake. Ugh another thing to make me want to throw up...which is what happens at the gym with all the mirrors...not fun looking in them. I feel like a, freak because it's not my face I'm looking at I can't really post full face pics..wish I could. You'd so agree. I sent pic to a friend and he said yes the new eyes are much older than before. So crushing just has to be a dream.

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April 30, 2014
it takes a long time to see the final results,at least 6 months....
May 1, 2014
I understand thst, but when your one eye is clearly smaller than the other, you have extra skin that can't just disappear on the outter left eye and deep hollow eyes that are getting more beady and hollow with each passing week..I feel the writing is on the wall. Can't imagine the round eye will mysteriously turn almond one morning. I also hear Ppl say they are happy in a few weeks. I hate my face now and feel like since my eyes don't match it my nose looks stupid now too. I have watched countless vids on this procedure and seen right after pics and months later and usually ppl look brighter and good and eye shape the same I feel ugly now
May 1, 2014
And why would anybody do this if they cried every day about it for 6-7 months. I def would not have..I am losing money and stress and crying probably don't helook again either. :(
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May 1, 2014
no,believe me,i totally understand. i went through the same thing as you. my eyes were my best feature ....and i mean totally unique beautiful eyes also and i had lower lid surgery with an occuplastic surgeon too. he also ruined my beautiful eyes and my features look too large on my face because this guy did the same thing. i get it.i understand and i feel for you.i know what it is like to feel despondent and helpless in the aftermath of bad plastic surgery. i was just hoping to give you some temporary solace untill you could figure out how to remedy the situation is all.
May 1, 2014
Thank you in appreciate that. How are you doing with yours? Any luck I'm fixing them. I just can't figure it out ...I look in the mirror and I think what did he do to change my eye so much. I look at pics and take pics and wish I knew. I feel like somebody sucked the air of me and pulled my eyes into my eye sockets and in the process made them lil. I feel like I'm all cheek bones now and brow bones.m, but really cheeks. Wouldn't you think if this was your job you'd get it and know that no female wants to pay to have her eyes ruined or aged 10 years. Wtf would we do that for, so why not just say you don't know how to do it without doing that..or say u can't do it right and move on to the next victim. Clearly is I model I wasn't looking to look older.. insane
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May 1, 2014
o f course i do not think these people meant to mess us up entirely on purpose,perhaps they are inexperienced ,i do not know. i too wonder why my doctor did not tell me he may not be able to give me the results i wanted,which was really nothing more than having uneven fat distribution evened out,nothing more.but he ,did something more...a canthoplasty,and left me with no fat under my eyes ...so there goes my unique beauty.it is what it is though isnt it? i have been to a few doctors,one,a great guy who was referred by my friend brunno ristow who said to me that he had repositioned the inner canthus and it would be difficult if not impossible to repair.i am very sad.i too avoid people i know because they can see how different i look especially my husbands family.im just plain embarrassed.the only person that i feel has a lot of experience in repairing medial canthal issues is a friend of the original doctor and am afraid he would say he wont help me after the 11 hour drive it would take to see him.i would be happy enough at this point to just give me the round curve i used to have under my eyes that showed some sclera and lower lid and gave me the large doe eyes i took for granted ,even by a few milimeters i would be happy.i did and still do on a daily basis all of the things you do and i feel you,i really do.does he tell you the exact procedure he did to you?you will need to know that for revisional surgery.my doctor just absolutely refused to tell me,i recorded every session i had with him and he never would say...i think that was the part that hurt and frustrated me the most.maybe he was embarrased,i dont blame him,but if he would have been honest i would have forgiven him and been able to work towards what i needed to do.geez,i was so beautiful....
May 1, 2014
I didn't say I wanted anything extreme either. Fat grafting is an option, but I hear it moves. Fillers of course, Im not a huge fan. Natural is always better. I did ask in am email for a record of all that's been done. If your dr is on the USA I believe it's the law the have to give you that info., not to say they won't lie though.... Well you need to try that guy to see. Never hurts to ask. I kinda felt like that too...the whole. WHAT ARE YOU QUESTIONING ME?? Not fun. Well tomorrow is a new day and I think we e will find what we need to help....dammit!!!
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November 18, 2014
I just had my upper and lowers done. When I went for my follow up on Monday, the tech that saw me first, asked me for my e-mail address and I was sent a link that allows me access to my records. You have the right to those. You paid for them. Don't let his "I sit next to the right hand of God" attitude discourage you. Good luck to both of you. I'm sure this will all have a happy ending!
November 18, 2014
Thank you. I hope so. I could sure use it. This has affected my relationship with my kids even. Not fun when my is unhappy and stressed. Made apt with Dr. Massry for January. They look so weird right now. I hope I can deal till then. Wish i could crazy glue my left eye to fall back down where it belongs. I was told ill neec my attorney to get my records. I asked plenty of times. Never got them yet. People that have nothing to hide, hide nothing. The fax copy from discover ....it was almost funny. It was so rewritten. Lol. It was so basic. He was so covering his ass. Oh well... i believe in justice and fairness. So it will happen.
December 15, 2014
You are very correct about listening to our gut instincts. I made the same mistake with a different type of surgery and if I could go back in time and run out of the office I would. Lesson learned. Now I question everything and at this rate may never end up making a decision on PS.... I hope you find peace and resolution.
December 15, 2014
Sad isnt it, that its like that, but it is. Im glad I found a patient surgeon who will work on fixing his screw up of the lower half. I have questions and concerns. There are suregeons that do fat grafting with eye lid surgery. Thet dont remove tissue they place it where needed. I wanted to throw up when i had a surgeons nurse tell me that. Made me sick he dug mine out and put filler in that lasted 2 months and want even right. Had he done a better consult...he should have examined my eyes, showed me what theyd look like. Im told they are to ask if u have dry as too. Ummmm nope.... never did. Last night i woke up and couldnt lift my lids cuz it was like sand paper over my eye balls. I.do and did have dry eyes. I couldnt wear contacts because of it. Soooo many flaws in this entite situation. I emailed plenty prior asking the questions i knew to ask, im however not an eye lid surgeon, to know each and every little detail. Trust....yea thats very very hard know. I spend so much time examining whats wrong now...so i can ask every question i know to ask.
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December 15, 2014
Very sad :( What are you gonna do?
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December 15, 2014
Are you gonna see another doctor?if yes, I advise you to consult dr. Chase lay,he is the best at eye lid surgeries! Best wishes :)
December 15, 2014
Thank you. Ill look him up. Seeing Dr. Massry in a few weeks for options and Dr. Hughes who does a lot of fat graphing. Lost another 2 grand this wkd again because of all this. Need my ducks in a row
December 15, 2014
I need an eye revision specialist. He has to be trained in fixing messed eye lifts. Same with the lipo destroyed area. This surgeons case in fighting me on my discover was that they say revision and them touching up is common. Ummm heck no would i trust him with my eyes again. Once you mess up those delicate muscles ..the patient is probably screwed already. He didnt know what he was doing first time def not trusting him again. Omg that would he horrid. Plus he acted like a smart ass to me, as did his nurse .. who gave me a $5 Starbucks card because i said how rude she was. Yea one more insult
January 12, 2015
I'm so sorry for your ordeal, and I want to thank you for posting this. Was thinking about having it done, although I have a neuro problem and my eyes still look great at times. I saw an ad on groupon on fb, only 1299 and your only sedated. As my big brother the dentist says you get what you psy for, and then I read your post. Thank you. I'd like to ad that you are still a very beautiful woman and I wish you the best.
January 14, 2015
Thank you. I appreciate it. I feel like a freak. My eyes are so unnatural. Guess youd have to know me before. Yes, plz dont do it, got to a specialist for consult at least. Its not worth it. I see the muscle damage, the skull looking sockets and the messed up puckered skin... how my eye liner moves my lids and how it goes back deeper than my eye bone on one eye. Its sick for 60 they might be ok. I looked 38 max before.
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May 15, 2015
Where are you,I check every single day to see how you are doing, good or bad.I am sure that everyone is wondering how you are doing regardless of the outcome right now.I hope you are okay...xoxo
May 15, 2015
Yep, I was wondering, too! Hope you are doing better, Gem!
UPDATED FROM gem202
28 days post

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Though I should add a before, can't relate unless you see before. I just saw there is a surgeon in NY that specialises in giving ppl their body back that was changed from other surgeons. Already left a message there. I'll be researching him.

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May 2, 2014
Oh No. Sorry you had to go through with this. I am three days AFTER surgery, and my doctor did not take any measurements either.
May 2, 2014
Where was your Dr. And what do you think of the incision placement so far? Hopefully you will be fine. I had a weird buldge from hour one when I woke up and saw the incisions were far from similar.
May 2, 2014
the incision is ok. although they are not aligned equally on each side. I am not going to fuss too much until the stiches come out on Monday. I have to say, your eyes still look a tad swollen. My friend who is 46 had hers done and she was swollen for about 6 weeks, and now she looks AMAZING. It is night and day and the procedure opened up her face and took 10 years off her. My little bump is on the right of my eye, I called PS they said it is common and to massage area out after stiches are out. My PS also does FREE revision suregery if anything goes wrong because he said he is a perfectionist. Best of luck to you, you still have time to heal.
May 2, 2014
I'm 4.5 now. My eyes look best when I wake up and are swollen. I sure do. So hopefully I'll Wake up and find my one eye grew bigger again. Lmao The one in previous pics that looked smaller cuz of extra skin above is now the one that looks bigger. Hmm He closed my eye somehow and made it smaller on the left. Have to compare pupil and white to get why it looks different. I also spent 100I in fillers to fix my under eye dug in look after he charged 650 to do it while under.. 1750 in fillers in a month. Hmm not a great outcome if ya ask me... n can't do it again, cuz eye infections can happen. Gotta read up on that. So he doesn't get credit for them looking any better my wallet does
May 2, 2014
Maybe if I keep pulling down on my left eye it will droop n show more white to match the other n maybe if i take a knife n cut the rest if the skin off the left eye area it will help lol. Maybe I'll wake up and that skin will have magically disappeared or maybe in 6 mths I'll have more skin as incision droppes more. Lol.
May 2, 2014
Oh and I heard from a nurse that was at a cosmetic conference a few weeks ago that you are not to ever fill tear troughs again after they have been filled once. High risk of infection. Very bad. A specislist thst writes texts books waa speaking about it. This area is very pron to infection. Not like the otger areas we fill and fill again. Do Def Need To Research this before letting them fill you again. Sad they take away soft tissue to keel making money on fillers and now the risk of infection in eyes is too great. Unreal. Need to learn more on fat grafting
January 4, 2015
Dear Gem202, I really feel your pain, now I just saw your reply on Dr Massary might not b able to fix the issues. In case this happens, I hope you will accept the fact and find peace with it, it certainly will be very hard to do, but that could be the only way to regain happiness, you are still very young, a long way to go. You are still very attractive.
January 4, 2015
Almost 47, not so young. Lol Def not to be a single female that was working hard to make some kind if retirement for herself because she had NONE. Now he took all my savings and my income this year. Now more next year. I will never accept what i look like now. Its not my face. For 5000 this jerk cost me 150,000 thats sick. 11,000 total he needed i guess. Wont know till consult. As you know...no guarantees with any of it. Need fat transfer, but muscles need repaired first or eyes shut..so one depends on other. Oh well see how it all goes.
January 4, 2015
It's calked bioinfection, can be stubborn to rid off.
January 4, 2015
You mean if you keep doinv fillers? Yes i was told about that. Isnt it funny we get more info than they will give or know
January 4, 2015
Most doctors are out there to make money, and some don't even know about the infection cases, how funny. We are the ones have to watch out for ourselves. During my intent to improve my look to regain young looks, a few doctors are truly honest and highly ethical, who told me they would not operate on me now, wait till your eyelids really fall down, lol, I genuinely appreciate their kindness and professionalism. I have devoted a lot of time, energy in seeking many consultations, and come to final decision, I will age gracefully. Again, I thank those doctors who in a sense refused the operation.
January 4, 2015
I agree with you. Id much rather have honest. Have a lot more respect for those and they in the long run will have more patience because they are trusted. Life is all about money, but lets have some friggin integrity. Wait till they drop more. Ugh. Yea thats prob so you have more aged stretched skin. Not enough skin is def an issue. Im sure i have too little in bad eye. Gunna be interesting. My Attorney mentioned Dr in Miami. Funny he knows all this stuff. Hes good
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30 days post

Sure def getting better with time lmao. 1100 in fillers n deep dug out corners u don't fill.

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Why do I see all these pics of ppl happy after this? Oh that's right mine were messed up..that's why. Suppose to open eyes and refresh. Jokes on me...I'm being puked right??! Sloppy. Not personalised at all. Just ripped to pices. Sloppy suturing as well. Damn wish he had picked the lady that didn't model to pay the bills and take care of family. In front of 1000s in a weekend or even day. Now that's jacked all to heck up. Legal time fo sho. Funny I called a legal firm the lady that answered the phone said you won't believe I'm sitting here with stitches in my eyes. I couldn't believe it. Didn't even have her stitches out yet. I said well how do your incisions look, she said good. I said are they symetrical. Yep she said. I said how do you feel about it so far, she said she loved it already. Didn't know how upset I was until when she said that I broke down n started to sob and had to make myself stop crying to finish the phone call. Happy for her yes, she said I'm sorry, I shouldn't have told you that...I said no I'm glad for you....and you just made my case/point. I should be happy too. I'm no idiot, I know what I'm seeing. Eyes won't all if a sudden get bigger when they were made smaller, skin won't disappear that was left..in fact will get more with relaxing and less swelling. Drooping eyelid wasn't there at first ..my lower lids won't alk the sudden go straighter across after been pulled up round. I understand healing to get complete result, but cmon.... two diff eyes are two diff eyes... I'm a hell of a fighte if I get screwed..so I'll do what I gotta do, my face helped me afford this surgery in the first place. How I saved up for it. That's silly those of you who let these guys touch your face after they jack it up to begin with. Insane to me.

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May 4, 2014
WOW, gem202, what amazing, stunning, gorgeous eyes you had!! I definitely see the drastic difference and why you are justifiably so upset! Please do NOT give up on getting the results you want and deserve. As you are looking for someone to do revisional work, a PS you may want to check out is Dr. Steinsapir in Beverly Hills - from realself, he seems to have a lot of expertise with revisions, and I see almost all positive comments from patients. As time goes on (I'm one month post surgery), I'm not really pleased with the outcome of one eye -- my uppers and lowers done, and I'm definitely going to seek his help. I just have to figure out how I'm going to come up with the expense of airfare for the consult, airfare for the revision, for the hotel and food, etc. Really not a happy camper! Wishing you the very best as you move forward -- stay blessed! :-)
May 4, 2014
Thank you. Isn't it funny how much you hear you need time to heal, which I totally understand our eyes are very complex. Lots To Heal after This , but you can kinda tell right away what's up. I knew with the incisions I saw it wasn't going to end well. I looked at enough YouTube vids and before and after pics to know mine were not quite right. I'm already on it with Dr. Stensapir. Im seeing he knows what hes talking about, isnt half ased and doesbt accept half assed. I have had Drs. Comment that my surgery was acceptable lol. Are you kidding me, dear God where did they go to school? That's why they won't touch my body and why Dr Stensapir will continue to be very busy. I have been looking and looking for closer, but I won't settle for less expertise., I already did that once. Ugh. Was one of the dumbest things I ever did. I assumed if somebody is a face specialist they did good eye lid work. I'm seeing that over time it's looking worse as swelling goes down. I posted a few things last night that will show tomorrow I guess. My left eye is actually getting smaller. I took off my make up last night n sat down at my vanity for my night time skin care ritual and looked in the mirror and gasped. It's like the lower lid is shortening or something. So weird. You'll see pics of how big smiles look awful because it closes my eye and makes them squint shut now. I feel for you if you aren't happy either. It's ruined the last few weeks of my life. Im not functioning well at all. I try and it's so hard. Haven't worked in 5 weeks and I'm a gym rat that went 2 times last week and took all i had to do my workout. So he's taking away my income, my savungs, my fitness, my face, my happy, my focus and just normal things I need to get done. I don't usually sob cry...I'm a pretty tough chick. My Last bf said I was an alpha male lol. So when I'm calling and leaving messages for Dr's or taking to my mom and start to cry and not be able to finish speaking that's just wrong. This wasn't what I paid thousands for. I'm debating how I'm handling my next steps... I don't think we should have to pay to have our eyes eyes messed up then pay to have them fixed double and hotel, flight, and what about somebody to help us. We can't go search for healthy non sodium food 4 hrs post op. We can't take our luggage n carry it if we can't lift. Can't fly either for at least a week. That's one expensive mess up. Makes me so sick. I'm suppose to be working hard to save for future after divorce ..married 18 yrs. No retirement, single mom, with the most amazing two kids. Worth staying home, working part time..but now I'm to be working hard for me..and here I am. Watching all the work the last few years go down the drain..and all the gym work the last 30 yrs to take care of myself n hold up well.be taken away because I can't even smile without looking like a plastic freak. My face is in front of 1000s a week sometimes a day.... for my job. Well who knows, maybe we'll end up in LA together. I'm 5 weeks out. I know we have to wait least 6. I'm going to try n get out there for a consult just to have some hope and be able to settle and know I can be me again. I Obv can't keep doing what I'm doing and not functioning. I'll lose my house. My daughter was going to get married next June mow she is looking into this August to save them renting 2 dif places, so guess I'll be getting botox which I wanted to stay away from so I don't smile big at her wedding :( It's not pretty. Looks freaky. Crying on the way home aftwe seeing your son in his tux for prom is sucky...the pics with him I looked like a demon with crazy eyes. Good luck. Keep in touch. I'm not giving up, I cant..life is too short to spend the rest of it sad. It's scary cause it can be made woree, but I can't have two diff eyes I feel like my nose doesn't look right now either cause of my eyes. Well be ok...I'm praying that!
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January 6, 2016
Hello Gem,
I am so sorry you are going through this. You popped up on my pic feed at the ending my own review pics for similar surgery so I decided to take a look and message you. I had a similar experience 2.5 years ago when an occulo butchered my eyes. My case was that there was too much muscle cut and my one eye didn't close all the way, plus skin that should have been cut was hanging over the crease line making the crease small and Asian looking. My new Dr fixed it all and I'm only a week post op.
I cried ALOT in those 2 years and had 4 surgeons turn me away. I also did fillers, as one of them suggested, in the upper lids and it just made my brows look heavy and masculine, like a Neanderthal.
If you consider a revision, please check out my review on Dr. Geroulis in Chicago. Send him pics and see what he says.
Also heard that Dr. Parsa in LA is great with fixing eyes.