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Avoid at all costs, careless and rushed

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Avoid at All Costs, Careless and Rushed

Dazzling5233
$15,000
From beginning to end my experience with Dr. Gruber was a nightmare. She caused extreme deep bruising that lasted weeks and my recovery lasted months. The areas she treated were black with bruises and extremely painful to the touch for months.
I sent Dr. Gruber Photos of the bruising and told me I was having an unusual reaction. When I emailed the photos to Dr. Su, the owner, he said this was a normal reaction. This completely contradicts what they say in the pamphlet about the recovery being only a few days with minimal downtime. They fill their IG and website with videos of them performing lipo on patients and asking how it feels, they respond saying they feel nothing or it feels like a massage. This was not my experience at all. I feel that I must have not been properly numbed as I felt everything and it was very painful. I requested twice that she inject more numbing lidocaine.
I would not have known how bad of a job this was had I not gone elsewhere to get my abdomen done . I had an awake and painless procedure, painless recovery, no bruising and for 1/3 of the price.
Dr. Gruber told me not to take the antibiotics that were prescribed to me for the surgery because my chart said I had IBS 5 years ago, but nothing current. She said just take one pill the day of and no more after that. After the 3rd emergency appt for the bruising and pain she told me to go straight to the emergency room because if I had well water in my home I could get a serious life threatening infection from showering with the cuts from her incisions. Terrified, we went straight to the ER. They said the bruising was from the surgery and confirmed via bloodwork that I had no infections or other complications. She did not ask me if I had well water before telling me not to take the antibiotics prescribed.
After the 6 months of swelling went down, you can clearly see there is an overcorrection in my thigh making one of them uneven, and one of my sides is bigger than the other.
Given the exhausting experience, I do not recommend Dr. Gruber.Last updated 7/24/20

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Meegan Gruber, MD, PhD

Meegan Gruber, MD, PhD

Board Certified Plastic Surgeon

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Replies (37)

July 14, 2020
Thank you for being brave enough to share. I'm sorry this happens to you, what a nightmare.
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July 14, 2020
Where was the other place you went to for a cheaper price?
July 15, 2020
i went to Stan Castor at Artisan Aesthetics, but anyone who does Vaser or Smart lipo can do an awake procedure. Stan has 21 years experience and you can look him up through this site as well. i was very happy with how i was taken care of and have amazing results with no bruising.
August 5, 2020
Did you have Vaser or Smart Lipo with Dr. Castor?
August 5, 2020
Did you have Vaser or Smart Lipo with Dr. Castor?
August 5, 2020
i believe those are both the same thing, but i am not sure, but if you call his office they can tell you.
August 5, 2020
You didn't answer my question. Did you get either Vaser or Smart Lipo with Dr. Castor. If so you are comparing 2 different procedures all together. One was tumescent liposuction and Vaser or Smart Lipo. I agree that the bruising and pain is perfectly normal for tumescent lipo. Yes, it is painful. But nothing that wasn't covered in a standard medical release for this surgery. Lipo has been done for over 30 years and anyone familiar at all with this procedure should know that it involves a recovery period with pain and bruising. Did you actually think you could walk out the door like nothing happened to you? You post op pictures are not remarkable in any way.
October 21, 2020
The review i wrote includes complaints way more important and significant than bruising. Please reread it. Thank you
October 21, 2020
please read my update, the bruising is not the reason i an unhappy with the procedure. the reason is that she told me that the bruising was "not normal" and "very unusual" and after seeing me 3 times for emergency visit she told me to leave the office and go straight to the ER and that the bruising could be a sign of a life threatening infection caused be her surgery that would have gotten into my incisions IF i had well water. She did not ask me if i had well water before the procedure or at any point and she also told me NOT to take the antibiotics they had prescribed me. I went immediately to the ER and they took blood samples and confirmed there was nothing wrong with me except some bad surgery. MORE IMPORTANTLY my results are very poor, one thigh is visibly than the other and my flank is also irregular and visibly misshapen.
July 14, 2020
Wow, so sorry you went through that situation, that's not right! Thank you for the update.
July 15, 2020
July 15, 2020
July 15, 2020
we have in writing everything i stated in my post. you yourself felt bad for the bruising that you offered us a partial refund, offering to give us back your portion of the profits from the surgery, which you went back on the next visit when asked about it and sent in Nicole for her offer. Id be happy to post the drawing of the results you drew up for me VS what you actually gave me, it was a sloppy and rushed job and my final results show that, as i am uneven in both my thighs and my waist. You will need to have your legal representative contact me any further from here as it is no longer appropriate for me to communicate with you since your threats to me via this page.
July 16, 2020
We both know the truth. I said no to doing more surgery on you and you did not like that. The cyber bullying is a problem and if people dont call you out on it then it wont end.
July 16, 2020
leaving a true and honest review is not cyber bullying, i have not tried to communicate with you about this review, it is for the public to know and they have that right. I am a local guide with almost 200 reviews and very few are poor, i am known for sharing my honest opinion of my experiences. Again, this page is not intended for me to communicate with you and again i ask you to leave me alone. just because you dont like what is says does not make it bullying. i could only hope going forward you do not do this to any future patients. this review is to let others know the experience i had with you and your facility and hope others take precautions and have awareness before booking a procedure with you. I feel you butchered me and people said i looked like i was beaten with baseball bats, and i paid you $15k to do it. the ER trip was terrifying and my entire experience with you was exhausting and a nightmare. We have proof of all the things i stated, so again, not cyber bullying or a lie. Now is the time to start acting like a professional and not like a victim. Posted are the photos of my bruised body from your surgery...if there is a victim here it isnt you. unsure what your claiming is a lie, but also not interested. your trying to save face and thats clear.
October 19, 2020
Thank you so much for your review! You've helped me and a few of my friends decide against their facility. So brave! I heard they have an uncertified (plastic surgery) physician working there. Have you contacted the board to report her transgressions?
October 21, 2020
October 21, 2020
I went to dr gruber first ans THEN to dr castor which is clearly stated. You OBVIOUSLY work in their office and are using ALL the lingo they use to advertise lol
October 21, 2020
I didn't think to do so, but i will now for sure. Do you have advice on how to go about it? Ill be starting google research on the process but let me know if you have any tips.
October 21, 2020
please read my update, the bruising is not the reason i an unhappy with the procedure. the reason is that she told me that the bruising was "not normal" and "very unusual" and after seeing me 3 times for emergency visit she told me to leave the office and go straight to the ER and that the bruising could be a sign of a life threatening infection caused be her surgery that would have gotten into my incisions IF i had well water. She did not ask me if i had well water before the procedure or at any point and she also told me NOT to take the antibiotics they had prescribed me. I went immediately to the ER and they took blood samples and confirmed there was nothing wrong with me except some bad surgery. MORE IMPORTANTLY my results are very poor, one thigh is visibly than the other and my flank is also irregular and visibly misshapen.
October 22, 2020
July 15, 2020
This isn’t defamation this is freedom of speech. How dare YOU publicly respond to her in this manner. She is entitled to have her opinion - you should be ashamed of yourself! #SAYNOTOGRUBER
October 21, 2020
please read my update, the bruising is not the reason i an unhappy with the procedure. the reason is that she told me that the bruising was "not normal" and "very unusual" and after seeing me 3 times for emergency visit she told me to leave the office and go straight to the ER and that the bruising could be a sign of a life threatening infection caused be her surgery that would have gotten into my incisions IF i had well water. She did not ask me if i had well water before the procedure or at any point and she also told me NOT to take the antibiotics they had prescribed me. I went immediately to the ER and they took blood samples and confirmed there was nothing wrong with me except some bad surgery. MORE IMPORTANTLY my results are very poor, one thigh is visibly than the other and my flank is also irregular and visibly misshapen.
UPDATED FROM Dazzling5233
9 months post

Bruising stages

Dazzling5233
Here are more photos of the various stages of deep bruising that lasted weeks. I started turning yellow, then blue and purple, then to dark purple and black, as seen in the original photos posted. These are on the inner and outer thighs.

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July 17, 2020
Although i do think uour lipo holes are awfully big its very normal for people to bruise during lupo some more than others but i have to say that i had a similar experience where i could feel everything to and i think more people need to talk about how painful local lipo is its like being stabbed.
July 20, 2020
i agree. I am glad to know i am not the only one who could feel it. The thing that brought me to post all of this is when i had my abdomen done by a different DR. at a different office. I was awake and everything and it didnt hurt. i didnt feel it during and i had no bruising and no downtime. It was painless during and after the procedure just like i was told it should be. and yes, my holes from him are much smaller than Dr. Gruber.
July 28, 2020
Its normal to get bruising after Lipo. Are you getting massages and wearing a faja ? You actually look good from the pictures.
August 3, 2020
i was not told anything about massages, i was given a few compression garment, some "extra small" and some "large" nothing in btwn.
i dont think the bruises look good, i got lipo done by a different doctor in another area and had no pain, no bruising, i was not sore to the touch, and i was able to move around without pain. so, when she told me it was an abnormal reaction, i do believe that. im sure some bruising is normal, but not this much, and there should of not been severe pain while getting it.
October 21, 2020
please read my update, the bruising is not the reason i an unhappy with the procedure. the reason is that she told me that the bruising was "not normal" and "very unusual" and after seeing me 3 times for emergency visit she told me to leave the office and go straight to the ER and that the bruising could be a sign of a life threatening infection caused be her surgery that would have gotten into my incisions IF i had well water. She did not ask me if i had well water before the procedure or at any point and she also told me NOT to take the antibiotics they had prescribed me. I went immediately to the ER and they took blood samples and confirmed there was nothing wrong with me except some bad surgery. MORE IMPORTANTLY my results are very poor, one thigh is visibly than the other and my flank is also irregular and visibly misshapen.
August 5, 2020
Honestly I think everyone reacts differently and I don't think this is unusual for lipo. I had lipo done with a tummy tuck and the lipo areas were the most painful, my bruises were BLACK - way darker than any of your photos and covered huge areas. They were sensitive for about 8 weeks as week. The pain of my tt seemed like nothing compared to the lipo. However, my ps told me the lipo is what really gets people, most aren't prepared or expecting what comes with the lipo in terms of pain or bruising.
August 5, 2020
im sorry to hear you went through that, mine was so painful for so long it was hard to do anything and the worst part about it is they said id be back to normal in a few days. I am sure most people would still get it if they were honest about the recovery time, and being able to prepare for it would make world of difference. For my case, if it were just bruising, i wouldnt be so upset, but the hospital trip and that scare, in addition to her telling me i was having an abnormal reaction etc, it was such a nightmare. Its unfortunate for me that she didnt seem to take her time and didnt feather properly, leaving me uneven on both areas she treated.
UPDATED FROM Dazzling5233
1 year post

Reasons to avoid

Dazzling5233
I just want to update everyone on the reasons to avoid Dr. Gruber, as some reading my initial review think that the bruising is the part i feel is significant and why they should also avoid Dr. Gruber, maybe because there are photos of the bruising. However, the reason is that she told me that the bruising was "not normal" and "very unusual" and after seeing me 3 times for emergency visit she told me to leave the office and go straight to the ER and that the bruising could be a sign of a life threatening infection caused be her surgery that would have gotten into my incisions IF i had well water. She did not ask me if i had well water before the procedure or at any point and she also told me NOT to take the antibiotics they had prescribed me. I went immediately to the ER and they took blood samples and confirmed there was nothing wrong with me except some bad surgery. MORE IMPORTANTLY my results are very poor, one thigh is visibly than the other and my flank is also irregular and visibly misshapen. Here are photos, the one with black marks is the one from her office, they took a photo of me and printed it out, Dr. Gruber then marked on it what my "after" results would look like, and why i should pay her $10k more than what most lipo Dr's charge. Doyour research most lgood lipo Dr.'s charge $4-5k for this procedure, not $15 like Gruber. So beware of Gruber.

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October 22, 2020
October 23, 2020
My encouraging comments to this review were removed? Yet RealSelf allows her to edit her story because members were going against her claims. First it was bruising-and members commented to console her. Then it was she had to ask for numbing "twice"--when today she wrote--she had to ask for numbing 3x? So any of Dr Gruber patients trying to help her understand their personal experiences, will be removed? That's truly unfortunate for anyone coming on this site attempting to find the answers and honest opinions.
November 23, 2020
I’m with you. I’m researching this doc and unfortunately this review isn’t helpful. OP first goes off on bruising and how horrible it was/how long it lasted (It’s lipo, ppl need to understand and be aware it’s a real surgical procedure and deep/long lasting bruising is a normal occurrence). But later she says bruising isn’t the real reason she’s unhappy, even though in the initial review it’s very obvious it is. The story keeps changing and is weirdly nitpicky, there’s a million photos of normal bruising and only one before/after that was taken immediately post procedure, which is full of swelling so we have no idea how it settled.
November 27, 2020
Hi ilnn11---I have all of my photos on my reviews of Dr Gruber and Dr Su --they have completely changed my body from armpits to cankles!! Everyone has a different tolerance for pain--unless you are getting "smart lipo-or-vaser" there WILL be bruising! Dazzling is 100% correct--there are many doctors for HALF the money of Artistic Lipo and they remove HALF the fat. Dr Gruber posts many photos of patients on her instagram that have had previous lipo elsewhere that come to her for revision!--It is a large investment--but you get what you pay for! Good luck to you!
December 28, 2020
i dont think there is an issue with how many times i asked to be numbed, the issue is that members of her staff are commenting and trying to discredit what went on. I had to ask to be numbed several times, because the pain was excruciating, and my body is now uneven from her not making me symmetrical. I think the point is not how many times she numbed me, which was 3 times. Her staff members posted those comments and thats why they were removed.
December 28, 2020
the review touches on all of the reasons it was a nightmare, and she sent me to the ER, nothing about the story is changing. MY body is now uneven from her work.
January 5, 2021
Dazzling--sorry for the confusion--I just saw your response to my comment. To be clear-it is MY comments that were removed and it is ME that you are accusing of being a staff member--which I AM NOT! Again-I have had several procedures with both Dr Su and Dr Gruber-each one was an excellent experience and YES-very expensive. I have met MANY friends on Realself-from ALL of my reviews-I assure you-I was only trying to encourage you on your great results and advise that the bruising is normal and expected.
October 23, 2020
Your results look GREAT!!! And an excellent example of Dr Gruber's work! She is the best!
December 28, 2020
I am not sure if you even read the nightmare she put me through. My waist is uneven and the sides don't match, and there are irregularities in my thighs. It was a very sloppy job.
November 3, 2020
I'm sorry you went through all of this. Please ignore the passive aggressive, suspiciously invested commenter above trying to nitpick and gaslight you.
December 27, 2020
Agree. It was probably posts from Artistic Lipo personnel trying to take credit away from this woman’s negative review. Shameful.
January 5, 2021
I would think that an "EducatedPatient" would have to be an ACTUAL patient to leave an HONEST review.
January 5, 2021
I know for a fact Fairway Mom is not an employee of Art Lipo. I have her personal email address and know her real name and it isn't anyone that works for Art Lipo.
January 6, 2021
An assumption is just that. Not a fact so be careful what you state.
January 6, 2021
That last comment was directed at fairwaymom’s comment. (Not at maybeline whom is apparently an Art Lipo employee based on her comment that fairwaymom doesn’t work for Art Lipo...

We are all entitled to our own opinions and sharing our experiences, people. That’s the purpose of this website whether you like it or not.
January 8, 2021
YOUR experience was a CONSULT--MY experience was EIGHT procedures. The experience of Dr Gruber and Dr Su doing 2-3 liposuction procedures every day/5 days a week----PRICELESS!