POSTED UNDER Natrelle Breast Implants Reviews
28 Years Old No Kids 100 Lbs 5 Foot 2 Inches 250cc Moderate Profile Mentor Submuscular Silicone. La Jolla, CA
UPDATED FROM freyja_619
1 year post
Advice for BA and 425 cc 6 weeks PO
WORTH IT$6,500
BWD: 11.3 cm
Weight: 100 lbs
Implant: Allergan natrelle style 20 round silicone
Inscision: under breast
Cup size: Started with 32 A with 250 cc I was initially measured at a 34 C or 32 D but I'm guessing this was due to swelling even though I waited until 2 months to by bras. By month 6 bras were gaping badly and I was likely a full B to a small C. Now I wear the 32 Ds I bought after my first surgery comfortably. Can wear 32 D or DD from VS depending on bra. The wirefree t shirt bras I need a 32 DD but I think this style runs small.
Incision length: 2.25 inches about 6 cm
Scar treatment: mederma PM gel twice daily massage till absorbed. Scar away silicone strips during the day over scar cream. Breast massage ten minutes 3 times per week with coconut oil (spectrum unrefined from whole foods body section, $9) and bio oil (small bottle $9).
Breast feel: they are soft and squishy and move easily. Am able to sleep comfortably on my tummy now (this wasn't the case with my first surgery).
Total cost: with the cost of two surgeries I've now spent close to $10K. Do I think it's worth it? Absolutely! Am I annoyed I had to spend an extra $3K to get the size I wanted. Absolutely!
I wanted to collect all my advice for pre and post surgery in case I've missed any new reviews on RS and for those who don't feel comfortable posting a review.
1) try on sizers. Add 25-50 cc to what size looks best. This is because the implant will be smaller under the muscles.
2) Question your doctor on why he advises selecting a certain size. Remember if a doctor tells you a max volume it is likely for an implant profile.
3) Ask for written measurements and copies of implant sizing chart.
4) Ensure that you select the correct profile and realize that not every implant style will give cleavage without a push up bra.
5) Let your doctor decide the incision site and type that's best for you. This is one thing I'd go into the office flexible about.
6) Remember to discuss your doctors implant revision policy and clearly discuss what your doctor will do should you be unhappy with your results.
7) Ask for a copy of your doctors post op instructions and written summary of what to expect and do after BA. Study this before surgery.
8) Ask your doctor to demonstrate the breast massage recommended after surgery. I did not for my first surgery and when they told me to massage was like ... ??? .... *pokes boob a few times*.
9) Be patient. Your breasts will be firm and high for the first 3 months.
10) Buy a real post surgical bra. My doctor didn't recommend one for the first surgery and told me to wear whatever. When I had my revision I bought the carefix Anna and Alice from Amazon ($40 each). These greatly reduced recovery pain. The front closure made putting the bras on very easy and painless.
11) schedule a hair cut, blow out, or wash 3 days after surgery. You will be able to shower but washing your hair may be difficult. It's best to have someone else do it. Having your partner help with bathing the first time is a good idea to make it easier.
12) be aware of the boobie Blues. About day 2 or 3 many women feel depressed. This happened to me after both surgeries. I'm not sure why this happens it might be from the drugs used for anesthesia, maybe being in pain, could be from lack of sleep as well. Anyway it's helpful to speak to a partner or friend who is supportive and have a good cry. Just remember it is normal and happens to everyone.
13) you are going to feel huge after surgery. Your implants will swell and be very tight for the first 5 days. It looked to me like I had big fake balloons on my chest both times. Don't worry this will go away and you can get an idea of your true size about 1 week after surgery.
14) Stretch!!!!!! The majority of pain is caused by muscle spasms after surgery. Ask your doctor to demonstrate how you should stretch. Holding a towel behind your back roll your shoulders back and try to pull your shoulder blades together. This will help the implants settle and will relax the muscles. This helps more than muscle relaxers. See pictures.
15) walk for at least 15 min every 2 hours. This will prevent blood clots and help your medicine work better.
16) request easy off caps from the pharmacy when getting your prescriptions. Standard bottles can be hard to open. Keep out of reach of children!
17) silicone scar sheets. Start these at 2 weeks post op or when your doctor tells you that you can. These will flatten and fade your scars. They can be washed with warm water and soap and be reused. Don't throw away when they lose their stick just wash them.
18) when sleeping on your back put pillows under your knees. This will help with discomfort and align your hips and back. A bath towel can be placed underneath from bottom to feet to provide grip and prevent sliding.
I sincerely hope this helps!
Weight: 100 lbs
Implant: Allergan natrelle style 20 round silicone
Inscision: under breast
Cup size: Started with 32 A with 250 cc I was initially measured at a 34 C or 32 D but I'm guessing this was due to swelling even though I waited until 2 months to by bras. By month 6 bras were gaping badly and I was likely a full B to a small C. Now I wear the 32 Ds I bought after my first surgery comfortably. Can wear 32 D or DD from VS depending on bra. The wirefree t shirt bras I need a 32 DD but I think this style runs small.
Incision length: 2.25 inches about 6 cm
Scar treatment: mederma PM gel twice daily massage till absorbed. Scar away silicone strips during the day over scar cream. Breast massage ten minutes 3 times per week with coconut oil (spectrum unrefined from whole foods body section, $9) and bio oil (small bottle $9).
Breast feel: they are soft and squishy and move easily. Am able to sleep comfortably on my tummy now (this wasn't the case with my first surgery).
Total cost: with the cost of two surgeries I've now spent close to $10K. Do I think it's worth it? Absolutely! Am I annoyed I had to spend an extra $3K to get the size I wanted. Absolutely!
I wanted to collect all my advice for pre and post surgery in case I've missed any new reviews on RS and for those who don't feel comfortable posting a review.
1) try on sizers. Add 25-50 cc to what size looks best. This is because the implant will be smaller under the muscles.
2) Question your doctor on why he advises selecting a certain size. Remember if a doctor tells you a max volume it is likely for an implant profile.
3) Ask for written measurements and copies of implant sizing chart.
4) Ensure that you select the correct profile and realize that not every implant style will give cleavage without a push up bra.
5) Let your doctor decide the incision site and type that's best for you. This is one thing I'd go into the office flexible about.
6) Remember to discuss your doctors implant revision policy and clearly discuss what your doctor will do should you be unhappy with your results.
7) Ask for a copy of your doctors post op instructions and written summary of what to expect and do after BA. Study this before surgery.
8) Ask your doctor to demonstrate the breast massage recommended after surgery. I did not for my first surgery and when they told me to massage was like ... ??? .... *pokes boob a few times*.
9) Be patient. Your breasts will be firm and high for the first 3 months.
10) Buy a real post surgical bra. My doctor didn't recommend one for the first surgery and told me to wear whatever. When I had my revision I bought the carefix Anna and Alice from Amazon ($40 each). These greatly reduced recovery pain. The front closure made putting the bras on very easy and painless.
11) schedule a hair cut, blow out, or wash 3 days after surgery. You will be able to shower but washing your hair may be difficult. It's best to have someone else do it. Having your partner help with bathing the first time is a good idea to make it easier.
12) be aware of the boobie Blues. About day 2 or 3 many women feel depressed. This happened to me after both surgeries. I'm not sure why this happens it might be from the drugs used for anesthesia, maybe being in pain, could be from lack of sleep as well. Anyway it's helpful to speak to a partner or friend who is supportive and have a good cry. Just remember it is normal and happens to everyone.
13) you are going to feel huge after surgery. Your implants will swell and be very tight for the first 5 days. It looked to me like I had big fake balloons on my chest both times. Don't worry this will go away and you can get an idea of your true size about 1 week after surgery.
14) Stretch!!!!!! The majority of pain is caused by muscle spasms after surgery. Ask your doctor to demonstrate how you should stretch. Holding a towel behind your back roll your shoulders back and try to pull your shoulder blades together. This will help the implants settle and will relax the muscles. This helps more than muscle relaxers. See pictures.
15) walk for at least 15 min every 2 hours. This will prevent blood clots and help your medicine work better.
16) request easy off caps from the pharmacy when getting your prescriptions. Standard bottles can be hard to open. Keep out of reach of children!
17) silicone scar sheets. Start these at 2 weeks post op or when your doctor tells you that you can. These will flatten and fade your scars. They can be washed with warm water and soap and be reused. Don't throw away when they lose their stick just wash them.
18) when sleeping on your back put pillows under your knees. This will help with discomfort and align your hips and back. A bath towel can be placed underneath from bottom to feet to provide grip and prevent sliding.
I sincerely hope this helps!
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UPDATED FROM freyja_619
1 year post
1 month post revision 250 cc to 425 cc
Wanted to add some 4 week pics to this review incase anyone hasn't been able to find my revision review. I am so unbelievably happy with my revision. I got exactly what I wanted!! It is such a huge relief to be happy and not the have my day dominated by regretful thoughts.
I have to say they aren't really that big. You think you will be huge going with an implant nearly twice the size but you aren't. This isn't boob greed it's just me trying to say don't be scared by a number. Even though I'm 5 foot 2 and 100 lbs 425 doesn't look in unnatural on my frame. I now wear a 32 D.
I have to say they aren't really that big. You think you will be huge going with an implant nearly twice the size but you aren't. This isn't boob greed it's just me trying to say don't be scared by a number. Even though I'm 5 foot 2 and 100 lbs 425 doesn't look in unnatural on my frame. I now wear a 32 D.
Replies (5)
April 1, 2016
you look great! I'm 5'8 and thinking about doing 400cc and afraid it might make me look top heavy but after seeing your results, i think it should be ok! thanks for sharing
April 1, 2016
forgot to ask but would you mind telling me your bwd? I'm 14 and PS suggested moderate profile. thinking i wanna do moderate plus so i get a little more projection vs a wider implant
April 2, 2016
My BWD is 11.3 cm. My first surgery was with an implant that was exactly that size and it kept the gap I had between my breasts. My second implants I selected 12.0 cm so almost 1 cm wider and this reduced my gap. I am also 5 foot 2 and 100 lbs and started with
Ok so I looked through your review and your wish pics and I'm worried about the moderate profile implant not giving you the look you want. With a moderate profile implant you are only getting 3 cm of projection. The way my surgeon explained implant profiles is with push-up bras. If you go with a moderate implant you will wear push up bras almost all of the time to get cleavage since the implant won't fill the upper pole. With moderate plus you wear a push-up about half the time and with high profile you rarely have to do it. I would highly recommend a 500 cc moderate plus implant for the look you want. This should put you at 14.1 cm width so you actually way want to bump up to 525-550. This implant size will give you 4.3 cm projection. The reason you are at this size in a moderate plus profile implant is because you have a wide BWD. You absolutely will not look top heavy at this cc size and will likely be at the full D size after swelling has subsided. I think one of the reasons people get scared about going with a moderate plus or high profile is because very few women stay active on the site after a few months so you only see the breasts right after surgery and they look scary. Moderate profile looks great right after surgery because it requires less stretching and is easier for the implant to drop. With high profile people look like they have rectangular breasts at first because the implant is squeezed together and the skin hasn't stretched. The reason I don't look like this right after surgery is because I have already gone through 1 BA.
As an aside I noticed you said you wanted a natural look. When your doctor hears that he thinks something very different than you and you run a huge risk of ending up too small. If you stay within the range of your BWD and away from Ultra high profile you are doing to look like you have naturally big breasts. Your boobs won't look fake after they have had a few months to heal and soften. Honestly I hope this helps. Feel free to ask me any questions :)
April 2, 2016
thank you so much for replying and with such detail. i have been going back and forth about the moderate profile too and afraid its not gonna give me any upper pole. I've been researching and stalking this site and its helped so much. i want a more natural look yet i want it to be worth the money after all is said and done. i still want it to look slightly fake. lol i haven't been able to show my PS any pictures of my desired looks yet so i will definitely discuss this during my pre-op in a couple weeks. wondering what he suggests and says. thanks again. your response was awesome!
April 2, 2016
hey lovely, firstly - that is a wonderful response from freya! and I can second what she is saying. Ironically I am exactly the breast size that freya advised for you - 525cc, base: 14cm proj: 4.5. The terminology of the breast implant brand I went for is different to others - it is called a "demi" profile - but based on Freya's message and dimensions - you could assume this would be moderate plus. I also wanted a natural look but a full look and made sure to show my PS many photos so he could see what I wanted. If you look at my review you can get an idea of what 525ccs look like - really not too big at all - please note I also had to have a full lift so right now my breasts are sitting a lot higher than they will be after they drop. I hope this helps you [RS bleep]
April 3, 2016
Thank you fitnessbunny. I try to be through. Your results are fantastic! So awesome you saw this post and weighed in. Sizing is something so many ladies struggle with because it's such a foreign thing. I mean it's not every day you have to pick the size of something for a doctor to surgically implant. I highly recommend reading fitnessbunny's review it is very moving and filled with great advice :)
April 1, 2016
Could I ask - did your surgeon charge you again? I've just had mine done at 250cc HP and am feeling too small :( I'm scared to tell my surgeon when I see him for my 2 week review in Tuesday as he was reluctant to go any bigger as he said they'd be under my chin. I'm 5ft 4, 120llbs but apparently have a high natural breast crease which has been the problem
April 2, 2016
Yes I did have to pay about $3200 for revision. This included the OR fee, the anesthesia fee and the implants themselves. Since the surgery is easier and shorter it isn't as much as surgery 1. My surgeon's policy for revision is that he waives his fee within the first 6 months. You need to talk to your doctor as early as possible about your size concerns firmly to document and be eligible for any discounts / warranties. You will likely have to wait at least 3 months for surgery. There are other surgical options he could have taken such as lowering your fold to allow a larger implant. With this guy it sounds like you need to call his finance person and directly ask for a revision quote so they know you are serious. Then schedule an appointment and bring a husband / be with you and your dr. Will be on his best behavior. If you don't have a husband/ br bring a mom/ sister or gf who will help ask questions and make you fell more comfortable.
I highly doubt you would end up with boobs under your chin with a skilled surgeon. If he still gives you a hard time see another surgeon for a free second opinion. If I had gone to my doctor from another surgeon he would have charged me $3700. The fee he waived was only $500. Another point to make is recovering from revision is sooooooo much easier and quicker. I really hope this helps :)
April 2, 2016
I do think they look very natural! Looking good.
April 4, 2016
Hey lovely, i really trust you and a couple of the other real self ladies on here and would absolutely love your advice eith regards to my latest post on scar management, is there any chance if you had a moment you might be able to have a quick read and provide your opinion? [RS bleep] thank you so much
April 5, 2016
I agree with you, you carry the 425ccs beautifully. I got 275ccs mod+ and I ended up a D also so numbers don't mean anything, being happy is what counts. And you look fantastic! Congratulations
April 7, 2016
I totally agree it's about how you feel about a BA that matters most. Regarding size it's been super strange. I was sized as 32 D 3 months after 1st surgery and bought 32 D bras after with 250 cc then they stopped fitting a few months in after they dropped and bras were gapping big time no weight loss I don't know what happened. Anyway now I'm wearing the same 32 D's after having my revision. You are right it really depends on your body and breast tissue but the 250 weren't the look I had in my head when I saw my Dr. It's not that I wanted the cup size I wanted the look and not getting it was disappointing but all better now. Thank you so much for the compliments. I'm so glad you are happy with your size and I will check out your review :)
UPDATED FROM freyja_619
1 year post
425 cc Revision - Day 7
Posting pics of my revision for those that are following this review. I love my revised boobs. Had my stitches out today and pain is greatly reduced. This is the size I wanted all along!
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March 5, 2016
Your revision suits you perfectly
March 6, 2016
Wow they look sooooo amazing!!!!!! I love them!!!!
March 6, 2016
Woul love to follow your revision profile, please could you share link/user name?
Thank you! X
Thank you! X
March 13, 2016
My user name is the same freyja_619 here's the link for the revision profile I'm going to try to keep them both up to date sorry for the delay in response have a hard time following the real self notifications sometimes https://www.realself.com/review/la-jolla-ca-breast-augmentation-425-cc-muscular-allergan-high-profile-foot
March 22, 2016
You look amazing! I currently have 304cc from allergen and I am debating if I should do HP. I am 5.3 and 120 pounds. The ones I have now seem too narrow/small for my frame. In a bra they look great but in the nude I wish badly they were bigger. What made you choose HP and how did you know what size to pick? I am worried that if I go to 339 cc moderate profile I will not notice the difference but worried that the 371 cc will make me look too top heavy. Any advice you could provide me regarding how to choose the size would be awesome. Thank you!
March 22, 2016
So you 304 that you have what profile do you have currently? 371 will definetly not make you look to heavy. This is such a small difference you may not even notice it. A higher profile gives you more fullness. You are able to get cleavage with out a supper padded push up. Do you know what you BWD is. You likely can tolerate a 425 size implant without feeling large or top heave. If you stick with moderate plus you are only going wider and not out. High profile implants project out a few cm more. I have the size charts for mentor and allergan on my review but I'd be happy to help you use them if you tell me
1) your BWD
2) your pre BA size
3) what size you want
Looking forward to helping you. I know this is confusing and you feel so many mixed emotions right now.
1) your BWD
2) your pre BA size
3) what size you want
Looking forward to helping you. I know this is confusing and you feel so many mixed emotions right now.
March 22, 2016
I forgot to mention is the main reason you choose hp is to get a narrow implant that won't ripple.
April 6, 2016
Im thinking of revision as im not happy with the amount of projection. I was a b and got 350 saline mentor moderate plus but i am 5 weeks post op. They are still a little high but i sm just not seeing a possiblity of the fullness i wanted. I am 107 pounds 5 foot 1 but going to ask about revision.
April 7, 2016
Hi Janet! You should definitely talk to your doctor if you aren't happy with the size. You are about the same size as me and if you are in a moderate plus you can for sure handle a hp implant and maybe even go a tiny bit bigger than me with no risk of distortion. I'm really sorry you aren't 100% happy with your results. I hope you get some good info from your doctor. Please let me know if you need any advice or support after talking to your doctor. I'm happy to answer any questions. Good luck :)
April 8, 2016
What was your bwd before the 425 ? I love your revision they are beautiful
April 9, 2016
Thank you! So funny I responded to you on another post. My BWD is 11.3 cm, I believe you said yours is 10.5. This means my implants would work for you as well. Going slightly above your BWD is normal and helps get rid of the gap between breasts and adds some side boob :)
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