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Revision Facelift, Upper Lids Blepharoplasty, Fat Transfer to Face, Chemical Peel - Houston, TX

UPDATED FROM mys3tiq2ueros1
1 month post

Skin issues persist

mys3tiq2ueros1
WORTH IT$18,675
At 7 weeks post-op, I'm thrilled by my new facial architecture. My surgeon did a masterful job, I think. Most of the swelling is gone. My jawline is near perfect. My neck is much improved as well. My nasolabial folds, which is an area where it's difficult to get a dramatic improvement, are noticeably smaller (by probably >50%) . A lot of youthful roundness has been restored to my cheeks. My undereye areas don't look hollow anymore. My upper lids, which were also looking hollow due to aggressive fat removal during an upper blepharoplasty 10 years ago, look so much better now. I am going to have a little filler injected to try to get even more improvement of my NL folds, but otherwise I can say I'm almost completely satisfied with my surgical outcome.

All that is great, but I'm worried about what the chemical peel I had done as an adjunct to my surgery has done to my skin. The TCA peel was only done to the central part of my face, not on the lateral parts of my cheek and jaw where the skin was directly undermined during the face/neck lift. The untreated areas of my skin look normal, exactly as it did before surgery, which was pretty good. Admittedly, the part that was treated didn't start out looking as good as the untreated part--my undereye skin was sorta creepy and the pores on my nose and my mesial cheeks were large. On the good side, my skin tone was very even, with very little hyper pigmentation anywhere. As of now, the skin on my cheeks is red, and the pores look larger than ever (maybe simply because of the redness). I also have a couple of hyperpigmented spots on my left cheek that weren't there before. The skin under my eyes is darkened, which is probably residual bruising, but now I'm wondering if this didn't result from the peel, too.

I'm going to see my PS on 11/01. He plans to do a Fraxel treatment (I think it's the Fraxel Dual), which he says will effectively treat the problems I just mentioned.

What do you guys think? Any suggestions? Would IPL be a better alternative? I've spoken to a nurse injector/cosmetic laser technician who thinks IPL would be more suited to treating my specific problems.

mys3tiq2ueros1's provider

Sean Boutros, MD, FACS

Sean Boutros, MD, FACS

Board Certified Plastic Surgeon

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October 20, 2016
Sorry, I am just not a big fan of lasers myself. I would probably do a series of at home peels plus the retin A like you have been doing. If no results I would go with PRP (Platelet Rich Plasma) for your melasma. PRP also helps increase the collagen in your skin so your pores would become less noticeable also. It's something I plan to do also down the line to keep my skin looking fresh. Let us know what you decide to do!! :) You look sooo great!!
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October 20, 2016
PS These are just my thoughts & I leave them with you. Some people do just fine with lasers. When they first came out though I watched my friend lose facial fat, so that alone has scared me off. Cheers! KAT
October 20, 2016
If it were me and my face I'd go with the Fraxel. The Fraxel, I'm told, should do better at building collagen, overall tightening, taking out small wrinkles (crepey skin) than the IPL. Both should help with brown spots and texture. The downside would be a longer recovery. (He can do a lighter Fraxel treatment if recovery time is an issue) Ask your doc his opinion.... that is after all why he went to all those years of school and the WHY he'd choose one over the other. Wear sunblock every day even if just walking to your mailbox and back no matter which you choose to help avoid hyper pigmentation. I think you're correct on the bruising under the eyes. Remember, you may still lose a bit of volume as swelling goes down and fat just doesn't make it. You still got AMAZING results. Thanks for the detailed updates! They've been super informative.
October 21, 2016
I wonder if two months after a peel is enough time to completely heal before having fraxel.
October 21, 2016
My doctor says yes. 6 weeks is okay, according to him.
October 23, 2016
I think I would listen to the Dr. It looks like he knows what he is doing. If he were unsure at this point he would say to wait a month or two but since he is ready to do it I think he knows the outcome. When you see him, ask him about the difference in the lasers and ask him what percent difference in your skin you can expect would it be 1 laser treatment or more? and be sure he does the laser, not someone else in the office...I feel he is trustworthy and will not do anything that will make his masterpiece bad!
October 23, 2016
In the three days since I last posted an update, the residual redness and enlarged pores on my cheeks and the undereye bruising have improved a lot. My doctor switched me from the hydroquinone/tretinoin/cortisone cream I was using to a cortisone only cream about 5 days ago. I think that the tretenoin in the combination cream was what was causing the redness. I'm not sure my pores are any smaller, but the fact that the redness is almost completely gone now makes them much less noticeable. As for the improvement in my under eye bruising, I think that it's simply normal healing that accounts for that.

The laser that I'm having done is the Fraxel Dual, and it will be done by the doctor. (He doesn't use a nurse practitioner or technician. He does all of his own Fraxel treatments himself.) He expects that it will take 2 or 3 of these treatments to get rid of the remaining bruising and the small spots of slight hyperpigmentation. I've had IPL for hyperpigmentation in the past, which completely got rid of some darker, larger spots than the ones I have now after the TCA peel. I'm breathing easier at this point and expecting a complete resolution of my remaining issues.
October 23, 2016
Oh, and the Fraxel Dual should also eliminate the slight redness that I still have.
June 8, 2021
at 7 weeks you are still swollen and that can look really young. Dont be disappointed as You start losing the swelling and slowly you start getting some of the loose skin back that is normal. but you will still look better than before.
UPDATED FROM mys3tiq2ueros1
28 days post

The structure is good, but the walls need paint

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At 28 days out, I'm very satisfied with my face lift and upper blepharoplasty. My eyes are still swollen and bruised, but I was prepared for that. From what I've read, it seems that the deep plane cheek lift is known to result in prolonged swelling. It's the price to pay if you want your cheeks done right. I do have a concern though, and it's what the chemical peel has done to my skin. I have some hyper-pigmentation on my cheeks and chin. The peel was only applied to my central face since it was combined with a face lift. Dr. Boutros explained that the skin that is directly undermined in the face lift can't be peeled, so the lateral cheeks and pre-auricular areas weren't treated. In the pictures I've posted, you can clearly see the difference in the treated and untreated skin. The untreated skin is clear and even, while the treated skin in darker and splotchy. Dr. Boutros is out of town, but I emailed him these same pictures. He called in a prescription for a topical cream containing hydroquinone, hydrocortisone, and a third ingredient (I think Retin-A. I'm going to pick up the Rx tomorrow morning. Does that seem like a reasonable course of action to you guys? Is this a common complication of chemical peels? Will I be like this forever?

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September 30, 2016
I use medical grade skin care and I know that retin a and hydroquinone are used for hyperpigmentation. Not sure what the hydrocortisone is for, though.

In any event, you are looking great!
September 30, 2016
It's also important that you protect your face from the sun. Use high SPF sunscreen each morning.
September 30, 2016
OMG it's like night and day! You have gotten one of the best f/l Ive seen and I love the way your eyes are turning out. How I wish your Dr. was closer to me!
October 13, 2016
Thank you for your kind words. I'm very pleased with the way it's turning out. One of my good friends, who hadn't ever thought about having a face lift, has scheduled surgery with Dr. Boutros after seeing my results.

I did a lot of research and consulted with 11 different surgeons before deciding to go with Dr. Boutros. The reasons I chose him were (1) that he does deep plane, vertical vector lifts, which in my opinion is a better technique than the horizontal vector, SMAS texhnique that most surgeons use, and (2) that his before and after pictures showed more improvement than any of the other surgeons' before and after pictures. Furthermore, his fees were lower than all but two of the other surgeons I talked to.

It might well be worth it for you to travel to Houston for your surgery. You would have to stay in town for 4 days after your procedure (which is when he removes the sutures). You would need to have someone to stay with you for the first 24 to 48 hours after surgery, but you could manage by yourself after that. (He does his surgeries under IV sedation, which is much quicker and easier to recover from than general anesthesia.) And of course you would need to return two or three times over the next few months for follow-up visits. Even considering having the added expense of five nights in a hotel, a caregiver for the first day or two post-op, and three or four round trip flights to Houston, your total cost would probably be less with Dr. Boutros than with a similarly skilled surgeon in the NJ/NY area.
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September 30, 2016
Sounds like a Tri-Lumina product. I used it for a while for my freckles. You can order it from Canada since it's OTC there if it was costly in the states. They also make an AF which has sunscreen in it. Makeup Artists Choice has a nice selection of TCA & other peels if you find that cream is not enough. With my peels I just do a section at a time instead of my entire face at once. Usually I do a 30% TCA but only leave it on for 60 seconds. Skin turns red (not black) and seriously I get almost the same amount of peeling as I do leaving the TCA on for longer. Just my 02, I leave it with you. Also, you look freaking fantastic!! You must be very pleased!!!
October 4, 2016
Have you been telling friends, family, co-workers about your FL. Are they noticing you had a FL?
October 13, 2016
I needed to return to work after only one week after my surgery, so I did tell my office staff that I had a face lift. I felt it was a better option than letting them wonder why my face was bruised and swollen.

I just started going out for social functions about a week ago (five weeks post-op), and so far only one person has asked if I had anything done. I have replaced all of my old, pre-op profile pictures on Match.com with new, post-op pictures. The new pictures are getting me about three times as many likes/winks/messages than the old ones were.
October 14, 2016
Good luck on Match.com and simply out and about. You look great and should do wonderfully. If I get a facelift it will be for me because per my husband he's happy with how I look now. But I've had fat transferred because I just detest the thought of yearly or twice a year visits to to fill in under my eye (very hollow) and other places and if I do fill they'll have to fill less post fat transfer. But men are very visual and I think if I got the facelift I think he'd be happy I did AFTERWARDS. PS Thanks again for sharing your experience with us all.
UPDATED FROM mys3tiq2ueros1
26 days post

Swelling under my eyes down slightly, but bruising is more evident now

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Apparently, as my under eye swelling improves it's revealing the previously hidden bruising that still remains there. As you can see, the bruising is more evident in my latest picture (26 days post-op) than in the 18-day post op picture. Also, my right under eye swelling isn't resolving as quickly as my left side. I was told to expect that because more was done on my right cheek during surgery. I'm expecting that the asymmetry in my eyes will correct itself as the remaining swelling goes away. I am concerned about this bruising, though. I've read that it could be hemosiderin (iron pigments in red blood cells) deposits and that it could take 6 months or more for it to go away. Like most men, I don't wear makeup, so this isn't something I can camouflage that way. I'm not panicking (yet), but I am concerned about this apparent setback.

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September 28, 2016
First off, you look great. You look years younger than your actual age.
Have you asked Dr. Boutros if there is anything you can do or try to dissolve the bruising? I've heard that there is some type of treatment that some surgeons offer to help minimize the discoloration/bruising that goes along with recovery.
September 28, 2016
Thanks. I called and spoke to one of his nurse's yesterday. She suggested arnica (gel and sublingual pellets), cold compresses, and lymphatic massage. I've seen on this site recommendations from surgeons who suggest warm compresses for lingering bruising, but the nurse told me that they never recommend that. My next appointment is 10/18. I'm going to try to be patient until then.
September 28, 2016
Hi, I think its looking GREAT! the bruising under the eyes is what you are referring to? My friend had that and its going away after 3 months your not 3 months yet. I have another friend that went away in 6 months..but he did conceal it with makeup. You know it's not a big deal for a man to just dab on a bit of concealer you can go into any mac store or ulta or blue mercury....it's not so uncommon anymore for men to wear something no one would even know you had it on! I would try MAC...
September 28, 2016
Thanks! I guess I'll give it a shot. I'm getting tired of wearing sunglasses all the time.
September 29, 2016
Arnica Forte is a mixture of Arnica and Bromelain which can help a lot. Available on Amazon and other places. Or Arnica and eat fresh pineapple (4 ounces a day for the Bromelain). Unless you take meds that don't mesh well with pineapple. Try to avoid Ibuprofen, Aspirin, Napoxen Sodium, fish oil. PS next time, assuming you have a next time, you can take Arnica Forte before surgery with the approval of your surgeon and block a lot of bruises. PS you are still looking amazingly good and healing amazingly well. My doc had me take it for 2 weeks prior and after.