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Excitedly Anticipating Posterior Body Lift/flankplasty with a Medial Thigh Lift - Fort Lauderdale, FL
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Three years ago after having lost 55 lbs, I had a...
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Three years ago after having lost 55 lbs, I had a 'mommy makeover' - tummy tuck, lipo to flanks and outer thighs, breast lift and augmentation. My surgeon was incredible (Dr. Robert Cohen in Scottsdale) and I'd recommend him to anyone for these procedures. I was ecstatic with the results and it truly changed my life. However, this also seemed to make my lower body worse by comparison! I felt as though I looked 30 something from my neck to my tummy tuck scar, but like a 90 yr old woman from the scar on down. I knew I wanted a posterior body lift within a couple weeks of my original surgery.
Here it is, 3 yrs later and I've finally found a doctor I trust to do all he can to help me achieve the results I'm hoping for. I live in AZ, but had two consults in CA, one here and a 'virtual' consultation with the doctor I've chosen in FL. As I've yet to meet him or have surgery yet, obviously I can't comment on that part of my experience yet. What I can say is I sent him photos and an email describing what I felt I wanted done and to my surprise, he emailed back within a couple of hours! He told me what procedures he felt I needed based on my photos, assured me nearly half of his patients come to him from out of state and out of the country, so he was adept at making recommendations this way. He also sent me the quote for the procedures, told me what all that included (basically everything except pre-op testing and prescription meds), told me he performs all his surgeries in a fully accredited hospital with doctor anesthesiologists. I liked him immediately.
Then I began sending emails asking SO many questions, telling him my fears with potential outcome (esp. thigh lift) and he answered every question in every email very patiently and thoroughly - usually within a couple hours of them being sent. I told him of my other two consultations and their recommendations (the very first consult doesn't count - that doctor advised I work out with weights and wouldn't do any surgery on me. It's my belief he really doesn't perform the surgeries I need and mainly concentrates his practice on his "shrink wrap" liposuction, because every other surgeon I've seen has said - you don't have a 'fat' issue - you have a skin issue and that is surgical. You need to excise the skin). Dr. Revis encouraged me to keep these consults, saying I may find a local doctor that is a great fit and that it's certainly easier to recover at home. To be honest, at that point, any surgeon I'd consult would have to blow me away with his mad skill! I questioned him on techniques he used, results he expected, exact placement of the incisions, sent photos of patients that had bad outcomes to see what his opinion on them was. I'm telling you, I've sent him probably 20 emails already (or more) and he's been patient and understanding throughout.
I had a tough decision to make. I really liked the surgeon in CA, too. He was willing to do the surgeries I wanted, I know he's a top doc, I know he's very skilled at surgeries. His price was quite a bit higher, although I didn't know it at the time yet, but I didn't feel super confident that he performs enough of that particular type of surgery as I'd thought - especially the medial thigh lift as from all accounts, this is one of the trickiest surgeries to perform well. I also really liked the surgeon I saw here in AZ. I felt he really knows his stuff and surgery after major weight loss is one of his specialties. I'd already had my virtual consultation with Dr. Revis by that point and had asked and had answered tons of questions already. My biggest hesitation with going with the surgeon here was he doesn't use the flap from the incision in the back and use that fat/tissue removed to augment the butt. I already have a flat butt and know this surgery has a tendency to make it even more flat. He said in his experience, the fat just doesn't survive- that it looks good immediately post op because of swelling, but once that's gone, so is the new butt. And that it didn't justify adding time to the surgery and expense to the patient. Again, I trust his surgical skills and know he knows what he's talking about, but that is also his own personal experience, but obviously the auto augmentation using the flap must work for a lot of surgeons as it seems more do it than not. I think that played a lot into my decision to go with Dr. Revis, but what tipped it over the edge was his saying something to the effect of my being his art project for the day... As silly as that may sound - I feel it shows not only his enthusiasm for his work, but that he approaches each patient as an individual and aims to sculpt them into a 'masterpiece'. Lol.
So, decision made, deposit paid, found a place to rent for a month (day before surgery until almost four weeks after), and we bought our airline tickets last night. So now the clock is ticking and it seems so long until Valentine's Day!! Thank God we have Thanksgiving and Christmas coming up as that always makes time seem to fly. I am scheduled for medial thigh lift, posterior body lift/flankplasty and lipo of the inner and outer thighs, sculpting of the flanks, lipo of inner knees. Excited!!! I will add before photos, but only after the surgery is done. Lol. I
Here it is, 3 yrs later and I've finally found a doctor I trust to do all he can to help me achieve the results I'm hoping for. I live in AZ, but had two consults in CA, one here and a 'virtual' consultation with the doctor I've chosen in FL. As I've yet to meet him or have surgery yet, obviously I can't comment on that part of my experience yet. What I can say is I sent him photos and an email describing what I felt I wanted done and to my surprise, he emailed back within a couple of hours! He told me what procedures he felt I needed based on my photos, assured me nearly half of his patients come to him from out of state and out of the country, so he was adept at making recommendations this way. He also sent me the quote for the procedures, told me what all that included (basically everything except pre-op testing and prescription meds), told me he performs all his surgeries in a fully accredited hospital with doctor anesthesiologists. I liked him immediately.
Then I began sending emails asking SO many questions, telling him my fears with potential outcome (esp. thigh lift) and he answered every question in every email very patiently and thoroughly - usually within a couple hours of them being sent. I told him of my other two consultations and their recommendations (the very first consult doesn't count - that doctor advised I work out with weights and wouldn't do any surgery on me. It's my belief he really doesn't perform the surgeries I need and mainly concentrates his practice on his "shrink wrap" liposuction, because every other surgeon I've seen has said - you don't have a 'fat' issue - you have a skin issue and that is surgical. You need to excise the skin). Dr. Revis encouraged me to keep these consults, saying I may find a local doctor that is a great fit and that it's certainly easier to recover at home. To be honest, at that point, any surgeon I'd consult would have to blow me away with his mad skill! I questioned him on techniques he used, results he expected, exact placement of the incisions, sent photos of patients that had bad outcomes to see what his opinion on them was. I'm telling you, I've sent him probably 20 emails already (or more) and he's been patient and understanding throughout.
I had a tough decision to make. I really liked the surgeon in CA, too. He was willing to do the surgeries I wanted, I know he's a top doc, I know he's very skilled at surgeries. His price was quite a bit higher, although I didn't know it at the time yet, but I didn't feel super confident that he performs enough of that particular type of surgery as I'd thought - especially the medial thigh lift as from all accounts, this is one of the trickiest surgeries to perform well. I also really liked the surgeon I saw here in AZ. I felt he really knows his stuff and surgery after major weight loss is one of his specialties. I'd already had my virtual consultation with Dr. Revis by that point and had asked and had answered tons of questions already. My biggest hesitation with going with the surgeon here was he doesn't use the flap from the incision in the back and use that fat/tissue removed to augment the butt. I already have a flat butt and know this surgery has a tendency to make it even more flat. He said in his experience, the fat just doesn't survive- that it looks good immediately post op because of swelling, but once that's gone, so is the new butt. And that it didn't justify adding time to the surgery and expense to the patient. Again, I trust his surgical skills and know he knows what he's talking about, but that is also his own personal experience, but obviously the auto augmentation using the flap must work for a lot of surgeons as it seems more do it than not. I think that played a lot into my decision to go with Dr. Revis, but what tipped it over the edge was his saying something to the effect of my being his art project for the day... As silly as that may sound - I feel it shows not only his enthusiasm for his work, but that he approaches each patient as an individual and aims to sculpt them into a 'masterpiece'. Lol.
So, decision made, deposit paid, found a place to rent for a month (day before surgery until almost four weeks after), and we bought our airline tickets last night. So now the clock is ticking and it seems so long until Valentine's Day!! Thank God we have Thanksgiving and Christmas coming up as that always makes time seem to fly. I am scheduled for medial thigh lift, posterior body lift/flankplasty and lipo of the inner and outer thighs, sculpting of the flanks, lipo of inner knees. Excited!!! I will add before photos, but only after the surgery is done. Lol. I
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October 4, 2013
Congratulations on making the decision to complete your project! I know you must be very excited...I have had a lower body lift, as well as arm and breast lift, my last surgery will be a thigh lift. I will be following your story closely. Best of luck!
October 5, 2013
Thank you! I am excited! lol... probably tell by the length of my 'story'. When are you having your thigh lift? I'm WAY more nervous about that than anything else. So many things can go wrong, I'm just hoping and praying for the best! You're gorgeous - just saw your photos a few minutes ago and know I saw them months ago when I was lurking around on the site. Isn't it amazing how this kind of thing transforms your entire life?!
As for it being my last surgery - hahaha... I'm sure I'll want a face lift in a few years. Maybe sooner. But I haven't mentioned that to my husband yet :). Thanks for the good wishes. Oh, a question for you. My doc doesn't want to use a compression garment immediately following surgery, just the abdominal binder until the drains (6!) come out. I have to admit, that really makes me nervous. I think he feels they can rub and irritate the inner thigh incisions. I'm trying to find a garment he'll accept - even if I have to modify it. What are your thoughts?
October 5, 2013
I guess we are never REALLY DONE!!!! I just had a round of fillers in my cheeks done yesterday, I am hoping I can hold off on a face lift until I hit 50! So far so good! I am also very nervous about the thigh lift, I will probably wait another year, and to be honest am not looking forward to it!
For the body lift, he used a binder for the first 2 weeks, then switched to a "spanx" type garment. I can see him not wanting to compress the thigh incisions right away. Does he use compression on the thighs at any point in recovery? When I had my arms done, I left the Hospital in an ACE wrap, then after a week switched to compression sleeves, which I wore for 6 weeks. They were light compression, and I feel it really helped with swelling, as well as reducing the tension on the scar. Just by the mechanism of action of both arms and thighs, they usually produce less than optimal scarring....All we can do is to do our homework and trust our PS! They really do want us to have optimal outcomes. You have done your homework, I am sure you will have awesome results!
October 5, 2013
I just turned 54, so I'm past due on the face lift! I lost all the fat in my face- some from aging, but I'd swear most came after laser :(. I'd like to find someone great with facial fillers- you can avoid a face lift for years with someone good. I "convinced" my surgeon to let me use compression stockings and found some that actually reach the thigh crease. With all my skin laxity, I'm just not thrilled with no compression- especially with lipo involved. I guess between those and the abdominal binder, I should be happy. God knows, o don't
October 8, 2013
what type of laser did you have? I was due to have fraxel until I read the reviews here...I had the lower face lift and neck lift which helped greatly but the fine lines are still there,
October 7, 2013
I too am from AZ and also planning a LBL, can I ask you what made you choose this surgeon and also what the price is for your lift? Are you having anything else done or just the lift? and how long will you be staying in FL?....thanks
October 7, 2013
I re read your past pp and everything you are doing is exactly what I need done also
October 7, 2013
Hi there fellow Arizonian! lol. The price above is for everything - lipo to outer & inner thighs, knees, and contouring around hips/flanks, the posterior lift (which Dr. Revis calls flankoplasty - don't know if there's a difference) and the medial thigh lift. I'm staying 4 weeks altogether - arriving the morning before surgery for the pre-op. It's a long time to stay in another state - half of that alone! He requires three weeks post op for follow ups. Truthfully, after all I've read here I'd stay even longer if I could, but that's just not feasible. I was given the names of four surgeons here by my previous surgeon. One no longer does the procedures, one I ruled out for some reason or another, another I didn't really care for his before/after photos. Liked the one I did see here, but again, he won't do the auto augmentation of the butt and I don't have enough fat for a fat transfer. That pretty much sealed the deal for me - already dealing with a flat butt and need any bit of fat from the posterior lift if I want to be sure it's not completely flat. Liked the one I saw in CA, but his was considerably more expensive and although he's done "about 100" of the thigh lifts, I would feel more comfortable with someone who's done more. Loved Dr. Revis' before and after photos and the fact that he answers all questions and emails and he "loves his work" and things body contouring procedures are "fun and his art work project for the day". Lol. I liked that approach. I admit - I'm SCARED to death of the inner thigh lift procedure and really wish I'd be doing that here at home. Once my husband leaves (2 weeks out), I'll be on my own and that scares me, too. The price of beauty! If you haven't already, check out his website and even send him a few questions if you want. PM me and I'll give you my first name and you can tell him I encouraged you to contact him :). When are you planning on having your surgery done?
October 7, 2013
I am thinking the spring, that's when I had the upper half done. Most of my issues are in the legs and thighs but I guess the LBL addresses most of that. I don't think I will be doing the inner thighs just because of the healing, I know it's the hardest area to heal and you are not able to walk for a period...so not sure if I could handle the recovery with time and all...but I do need it. Not sure about the fat transfer either my PS said I needed it, both other PS are not too keen on it as they say it doesn't last...Still trying to get all the facts before making my final decision. Of course time and price are a consideration. Thanks for your help. Will you post some pre op pictures? I have a feeling we may be similar body wise... Funny that you said lipo on the knees, that's where I need it, I have always hated my knees!
October 7, 2013
Yes, I think the LBL will address most of that. I've always hated my thighs, knees didn't get fat until a few years ago. But girl...now it's the butt that I hate even more than my thighs! Didn't know that was possible. As for as the LBL, will your surgeon just do the auto augulous transfer(sp)? Supposedly that fat is still "live" as the vascular system is largely intact - it's just moved and folded over onto itself, shaped and placed, so most of that fat should survive. Mine won't do a fat transfer (as in injections/bbl) as he also says the fat just wouldn't survive with that many procedures going on. And says I don't have enough fat for a transfer, anyway. As for pictures - hahaha...no, not until I have afters. If you click on the little picture next to my comments, you'll see as much of my body as you're gonna see until after. Lol. Hard to believe so much 'ugh' can be hidden beneath yoga pants, huh? :) Keep me posted!
October 8, 2013
Not sure what you call it but he talked about taking fat from the thighs and processing it and then injecting it into the butt....I have the flattest butt possible as it is, infact if my stomach was as flat as my butt I would be in good shape!
October 8, 2013
Hi Ladies....So happy everyone is doing their research and planning such awesome procedures! I just wanted to contribute to the "flat butt" debate! If you start with a flat but, it will still be flat, only without the lax skin,so it will tend to look flatter. I had the autologolus flap, I had some muscle under the skin and excess flab, so my butt....not so flat! I was given the option of having the fat transfer at a later date (at least 3 months later). I don't feel it's necessary at this time. Your PS obviously is experienced, and has an awesome treatment plan for you to have optimal results!
October 8, 2013
Haha...know what you mean! So sounds like a Brazilian butt lift since it'll be injected. I'd swear I have enough fat to do that, but have had more than one surgeonsaythere isn't enough. I just hope whatever comes off the back end gives me a bit of butt! Don't want to end up with a "man butt"!
October 8, 2013
I certainly hope so! I wouldn't even mind a flat butt do much as a "man butt". I've seen that and it freaks me out, no lie. At least now I have a waist and hips. I'm counting on his experience and "artistic eye"!
August 16, 2015
Azdee, take look at Bauer66 she has NO surgery posted only replies. Maybe she works for Dr. Revis!!!!
October 7, 2013
Congrats on choosing your doctor and setting a date! It will be here before you know it, especially with the holidays coming up.
Keep us updated with your progress!
October 7, 2013
Thanks Kirsty! I'll be sure to keep this updated... but no pictures until I have some afters. hahaha... just not that brave!
October 7, 2013
I really appreciate this site - so much information here! But I have to wonder if there is a point at which there is too much information... or maybe it's just reading the stories of procedures you plan on having done. When you read someone's great outcome, you feel good about your decision, but when you start reading some of the 'horror stories' of bad outcomes or disappointing ones - it starts to gnaw at you. Well, at me. lol.
There's no doubt in my mind that I "need" a medial thigh lift if I have any hopes of wearing clothes I'd like to wear again. That's not the issue. But I have to admit - I'm SO nervous and afraid of this procedure. By all accounts - it's painful and prone to complications of all sorts. At least one of the doctors I consulted with said, "I'm not gonna lie to you - it's a [RS bleep] to heal!" When I read stories about scar migration, infections, painful, long-term swelling, poor scarring, incisions opening up... just freaks me out some. Okay... a LOT. I'm just venting here. Anyone care to try to talk me down? hahaha. I know I have four months to go yet - can't imagine how many emotions I'll experience regarding this aspect of surgery in that amount of time.
October 7, 2013
I totally get where you're coming from, it's a scary decision. However, I think it;s good that you get the negatives as well as the positives here, at least then you can make a decision based on the truth and not on false positives. There are the issues with any type of surgery, but it you're determined to have surgery then the best you can do if find a very good, board certified doctor, know for their results and do all the research you can. Be well informed on everything going in, so that there are no surprises.
You'll do great!
October 7, 2013
Thanks, Kirsty! That was quick. :) Please don't get me wrong - I do appreciate reading the truth about things. It's actually due to this site that I knew even half the questions to ask my doctor. I think knowing of possible issues and problems is a good thing. I just hope I'm one of the ones that is more annoyed by the healing process than in a lot of pain from it. And hope and pray that if, God forbid, there are any issues that arise, they happen while my husband is still in FL with me. :)
Thanks for the pep talk!
October 7, 2013
I know what you mean....a month ago I pretty much had decided not to do the LBL that my PS said I needed so my upper half would match the lower half. Well after finding this site and reading the great stories I decided to go ahead and go for it...So happy then I read a bad review with pictures from someone who used the same PS and suddenly it was like no way, then I started thinking well maybe a different PS and started reading more...I know if I were to keep this up I would be a basket case by the time I have it done....I had good results with my surgeon but this surgery is so body altering it has to been done correctly...Very Nervous to say the least....
October 8, 2013
You should ask for the contact information of patients treated by the doctor you picked ad talk to them. Pick patients from several years back, a couple years back and very recent. If he does at least 1-2 a month of surgery (I don't know how common this procedure is), there must be a few people you could chat with. If he says he doesn't have anyone for you to talk to, I'd be surprised. If that is the case, I'd ask him to ask some of his precious patients if they would feel comfortable talking to you about their experience. Nothing beats first hand experience.
October 8, 2013
I know what you mean! Just read a bad review last night from a patient with the same doc. I'm sure that has everything to do with all my mixed/confused feelings today. I'm not even nervous about the lbl - just the medial thigh lift. Well...except for trying to learn to sleep on my tummy!! I need a "hand-holder"!!
October 12, 2013
Thanks for coming to my review and showing some love. After reading your posts I know exactly what you mean about too much information. I felt so happy to have found this forum yet so overwhelmed. But the truth of the matter is that being as educated as possible can bring you no harm. Only prep you for the reality. I wish you all the best
October 12, 2013
Ah, thank you! I'm in the middle of another semi freakout again! My only fears/meltdowns before my first surgery had to do with the scars- could I really deal with them all? I've never regretted the decision. This one, tho...to be honest it scares the hell out of me! I can even accept having what'll amount to about a 50" incision. What scares me is a possible (tho not likely) complication of the medial thigh lift- one I'm sure I wouldn't be able to deal with if it happened to me. So I keep having misgivings.
October 17, 2013
I asked my surgeon about the medial thigh lift being a difficult operation. You will see many plastic surgeons state that it is. My surgeon, Joseph F. Capella, MD, has the largest experience in the world with thigh lifts having done about 1000 of them on massive weight loss patients. He told me it is not a difficult surgery if you know what you are doing. I am one week post op and my thighs look beautiful, absolutely beautiful. I love them. The contour is smooth and they look like natural thighs not surgical thighs. So, if your surgeon is experienced in this procedure then you will have great results, too! I hope that I talked you down. BTW my surgeon says that butt flap fat dies and he doesn't do that procedure because of it.
October 17, 2013
Thanks! You are helping!!! I think I might not be freaking out so much had I not decided to fly across the country to do it. (well... hahaha... yeah, I still would, but maybe not as much). My surgeon hasn't done 1000 of them, but says he's done 400 hundred plus and says with more experience you figure out what works. I can't wait to see picks of your thighs!!! And I think had I thought about it and read your story and a couple others, as well, I too, might have picked your doctor for the surgery. He's certainly in the ballpark money-wise, too. As far as the butt flap, I had one consult that said that's true - the butt flap just doesn't live. But I've had two others that say it's a matter of surgeon's technique and as the fat is "live" (all connected to each other and other tissue), it vascularizes much easier and quicker and that about 90% lives. I guess we'll see! I sure NEED that 90% of fat in my ass! lol... Thanks again - you ARE helping me!!
UPDATED FROM redwinelover
4 months pre
Minor freakout...
I guess I should have posted this here rather in the comments section! lol... it's a learning process. These thoughts probably don't have any bearing on anything or anyone but me - sort of a therapy thing for me, I guess. But possibly others can relate to the things our minds do when we make such huge decisions that can impact the rest of our lives.
I really appreciate this site - so much information here! But I have to wonder if there is a point at which there is too much information... or maybe it's just reading the stories of procedures you plan on having done. When you read someone's great outcome, you feel good about your decision, but when you start reading some of the 'horror stories' of bad outcomes or disappointing ones - it starts to gnaw at you. Well, at me. lol. There's no doubt in my mind that I "need" a medial thigh lift if I have any hopes of wearing clothes I'd like to wear again. That's not the issue. But I have to admit - I'm SO nervous and afraid of this procedure. By all accounts - it's painful and prone to complications of all sorts. At least one of the doctors I consulted with said, "I'm not gonna lie to you - it's a [RS bleep] to heal!" When I read stories about scar migration, infections, painful, long-term swelling, poor scarring, incisions opening up... just freaks me out some. Okay... a LOT. I'm just venting here. Anyone care to try to talk me down? hahaha. I know I have four months to go yet - can't imagine how many emotions I'll experience regarding this aspect of surgery in that amount of time.
I really appreciate this site - so much information here! But I have to wonder if there is a point at which there is too much information... or maybe it's just reading the stories of procedures you plan on having done. When you read someone's great outcome, you feel good about your decision, but when you start reading some of the 'horror stories' of bad outcomes or disappointing ones - it starts to gnaw at you. Well, at me. lol. There's no doubt in my mind that I "need" a medial thigh lift if I have any hopes of wearing clothes I'd like to wear again. That's not the issue. But I have to admit - I'm SO nervous and afraid of this procedure. By all accounts - it's painful and prone to complications of all sorts. At least one of the doctors I consulted with said, "I'm not gonna lie to you - it's a [RS bleep] to heal!" When I read stories about scar migration, infections, painful, long-term swelling, poor scarring, incisions opening up... just freaks me out some. Okay... a LOT. I'm just venting here. Anyone care to try to talk me down? hahaha. I know I have four months to go yet - can't imagine how many emotions I'll experience regarding this aspect of surgery in that amount of time.
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UPDATED FROM redwinelover
4 months pre
Already love my surgeon!
After reading more stories here, seeing more photos, etc. I ended up emailing my surgeon once again. I'm not kidding when I say there have been DOZENS exchanged so far! What a patient, patient man. And thank God - he has a sense of humor, as well.
I emailed him once again today. I sent a photo that was posted here of a medial thigh lift - fresh scars. Looks scary and didn't know if that's what to expect and he assures me that's expected and fine. I sent another of another photo posted here of an incision from the medial thigh lift surgery that shows the incision extends around to the gluteal fold. (her scars were uneven and of unequal length) I realized I didn't know where the incisions would 'end'. He told me the furthest it would extend was represented by the shorter of the two scars - no further, but that would be determined during surgery depending on my anatomy.
We've been having a discussion regarding post- surgical garments. As I'm having lipo done on my inner and outer thighs, as well as my knees, I was concerned that he uses an abdominal binder only until the drains come out, no garment. I asked if he'd consider one if it's altered to accommodate drains, avoids the groin incisions and is crotchless. (hoping not to have him throw his hands up in exasperation!). He said I could bring the one I have, and my compression stockings (his concession to me for no garments on my lower body) and that he has garments in stock, so it would be available if he felt I could wear one immediately. That'd we'd figure it out. :)
I mentioned that some women complain about having an elongated butt crack following surgery and asked if that was expected. He assures me his usually end up about the same length as pre-op. (whew! I like my short butt crack as I'm 'short-waisted and wear low rise jeans... didn't want my butt crack showing if my top pulls up!)
I also asked about the scar placement/shape in the back. Some are straight across, some are like an inverted 'v', and some are heart-shaped. Some are placed high in the back and would show regardless of the bathing suit worn if it's two pieces. He replied that they are custom - not dependent upon anatomy, but on preference.
After one of my (many) earlier emails, I thought he might be getting sick of me asking for so many details as he replied something about me not stressing so much about the minor details. I jokingly asked if I'd just been sent to time out. He laughed and said no, but he did have three young kids. (sense of humor)
And you want to know one of the most amazing thing? He replied in less than half an hour after I sent the email! He's so great with all the questions and so quick and thorough with all the answers. I replied to thank him and said, Whew! Quick and painless...thought I'd be sent to time out again ;). Sent that and a minute later he responds - No woodshed today - take care!
I mean.... how great is THAT? lol So happy he's open to all questions and concerns. Now... if only someone could make time go faster!!!! 128 days until I wake up in recovery!
I emailed him once again today. I sent a photo that was posted here of a medial thigh lift - fresh scars. Looks scary and didn't know if that's what to expect and he assures me that's expected and fine. I sent another of another photo posted here of an incision from the medial thigh lift surgery that shows the incision extends around to the gluteal fold. (her scars were uneven and of unequal length) I realized I didn't know where the incisions would 'end'. He told me the furthest it would extend was represented by the shorter of the two scars - no further, but that would be determined during surgery depending on my anatomy.
We've been having a discussion regarding post- surgical garments. As I'm having lipo done on my inner and outer thighs, as well as my knees, I was concerned that he uses an abdominal binder only until the drains come out, no garment. I asked if he'd consider one if it's altered to accommodate drains, avoids the groin incisions and is crotchless. (hoping not to have him throw his hands up in exasperation!). He said I could bring the one I have, and my compression stockings (his concession to me for no garments on my lower body) and that he has garments in stock, so it would be available if he felt I could wear one immediately. That'd we'd figure it out. :)
I mentioned that some women complain about having an elongated butt crack following surgery and asked if that was expected. He assures me his usually end up about the same length as pre-op. (whew! I like my short butt crack as I'm 'short-waisted and wear low rise jeans... didn't want my butt crack showing if my top pulls up!)
I also asked about the scar placement/shape in the back. Some are straight across, some are like an inverted 'v', and some are heart-shaped. Some are placed high in the back and would show regardless of the bathing suit worn if it's two pieces. He replied that they are custom - not dependent upon anatomy, but on preference.
After one of my (many) earlier emails, I thought he might be getting sick of me asking for so many details as he replied something about me not stressing so much about the minor details. I jokingly asked if I'd just been sent to time out. He laughed and said no, but he did have three young kids. (sense of humor)
And you want to know one of the most amazing thing? He replied in less than half an hour after I sent the email! He's so great with all the questions and so quick and thorough with all the answers. I replied to thank him and said, Whew! Quick and painless...thought I'd be sent to time out again ;). Sent that and a minute later he responds - No woodshed today - take care!
I mean.... how great is THAT? lol So happy he's open to all questions and concerns. Now... if only someone could make time go faster!!!! 128 days until I wake up in recovery!
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October 24, 2013
I cannot wait to hear about your thigh lift! The waiting must be hard!
November 10, 2013
Thank you! The waiting really is difficult! Lol. Once the decision was made, the finances worked out, a surgeon chosen, and all the logistics taken care of, I just want to get on with it! Hahaha. Three months, 5 days to go...not that I'm counting! ;)
November 5, 2013
Hi, as I was reading your story, your thoughts were like mine at one point, I thought well if I ever want to feel confident and wear nice sleeveless, backless shirts my only option is lipo. I understand you want to do a thigh lift but you have to ask yourself if things go wrong are you able to go through with it emotionally and mentally. My arms look skinnier in long sleeve shirts but I'm back to square one because I can't wear sleeveless since I'm left with deformities and loose skin and lots of pain oh and may I add with a huge hole in my pocket. Just trying to make you think twice, and dont feel overwhelmed by negative and positive stories at least now you can make an educated decision.
November 10, 2013
Thanks for your input. I believe I have made an educated decision. Trust me - this decision wasnt made blindly nor impulsively. It's been three years since my original surgery and I've wanted the procedure ever since. I researched the procedures involved, weighed the pros and cons, then researched a lot of surgeons who perform these procedures. Does that mean its fool-proof? That I will absolutely have no regrets? That my surgery will be all that I hope for as far as results? Of course not. But I feel I have a great chance that it will, knowing I've chosen a (US) double board certified, experienced, plastic surgeon, one whose results have been extremely good, with no sanctions or malpractice suites against him.
I appreciate your desire to protect others who may end up with bad results- I feel the same way about laser resurfacing. So I understand your take on this. But there are so many differences here. Loose skin and deformities shouldnt be an issue as I'm having excess skin excised. My surgeon would never take it upon himself to perform additional surgeries without my explicit, informed consent. This is where using US board certified plastic surgeons pays off. We have so many laws in place to prevent that type of thing from occurring. There are far fewer such assurances when we opt to go out of the country. I read your profile and feel bad for you. I have to admit, tho, that I couldn't really see what you must see by your posted photos. It did make me wonder if your issues are as much about feeling violated as he did not have your permission to perform such extensive lipo. Which I can totally understand if that's the case. Take care!
November 10, 2013
Unfortunately, after going through 100s of reviews because I was trying to find out if all the sensations were normal, I found out that even board certified surgeons can do damage. Ive seen it with my own eyes, and even if they do damage the people who were harmed cannot file lawsuits due to excruciating pain or do not have the means to file one. So therefore these board certified surgeons have a clean record. And I wasnt comparing my procedures to yours, i was simply saying im devastated by the outcome and if it were to happen to you, it could be an infection, or just simply your expectations werent met would you be able to handle it, thats all. Im not saying anything is going to happen i was just asking if you could handle it. And you would be amazed by the laws that are actually protecting the surgeons, please take your time to read the "informed consent form" AT ITS ENTIRETY and you will see it says you cannot file a lawsuit without arbitration first. Pretty much anything that can go horribly wrong is pointed out to the patient and you are not protected because you signed a form. I hate that it also says that if you're not satisfied with your results you can come for a revision but who trusts these revisions? I know I wouldn't. Look at all the top rich celebrities, they also have botched jobs and they look even more horrible after trying to correct it. Im just trying to prove it can happen to anyone, not just because they travel out of the country, not because they went to non-board, etc. And mostly of me feels violated but also that my body was over-suctioned creating complications for me. The photos sadly cannot tell you how I feel inside and you really cant touch my skin through the screen, so of course its hard for you to see it and understand it. I can see that your plastic surgery was successful and I hope that your next one is too, I would never wish this upon anyone. This has taught me that natural is better, and even though we have imperfections, that is what makes us perfect. I wish more people would understand that, I wish I caught on to that before this mess. We often see what others dont, we seek perfection, yet their is no perfect. I was amazed of how Cindy Crawford looks, she has sagging wrinkly skin from her children and shes rich yet she says she will never have a tummy tuck. I have met her and many other celebrities, because of my job or what used to be my job, and let me tell you they DO NOT look how they appear in the magazines. I have seen too many woman trying to look like someone else yet these celebrities dont even look like themselves. Im sure that is not your problem, it seems you just want to feel good and thats ok. You just have to prepare yourself for the worst, I know I didnt. Just thought I cleared some things, sorry for writing too much, but i wish you the very best, honestly, I dont like to see bad stories. Here is a website of imperfect celebrities. http://radaronline.com/photos/imperfections-of-the-rich-and-famous-20-celebrities-with-cellulite/photo/534454/
November 15, 2013
Hi there. Again, I am truly sorry for the results you have from your surgery. Although I did, indeed, have a great outcome from my first surgery, I just wanted to stress to you that I do not undertake plastic surgery lightly. We've all seen bad outcomes and in fact, I've actually seen the website you've sited. And you're right- I cannot feel your skin and the photos you've posted must not accurately portray what it is you see in the mirror.
I'm 54, I do not expect perfection by any means. Nor am I so naive as to believe what we see in magazines is how these people look in person. Even the most beautiful people on the planet are typically airbrushed and photoshopped in one way or another for these magazine layouts. I'm no fan of the "rags" out there, either. But how celebrities are photographed in those magazines is probably a more accurate reflection of what they look like than the "glossy's".
That said, due to numerous circumstances and events in my life- from genetics to poor eating habits, to years of smoking, to weight loss and weight gain, to a lifetime of sun exposure, to pregnancies and deliveries, my body in no way resembled a healthy woman in her early 50's. I quit smoking, sun worshiping, yo-yo dieting and took up a relatively healthy lifestyle with regular exercise. I was rewarded with good health, look good in clothing...but all of that took a huge toll on my body and my skin. So believe me when I say I am not hoping for perfection, but I wouldn't mind looking like a healthy, happy, fit woman of my age. My lower half more closely resembles a woman in her 80's or 90's. This is what I am hoping to correct.
As for suing a doctor for a bad outcome - yes, it's difficult. They are hugely expensive to try. Malpractice attorneys will usually fight and drag a case out for years. Why? So attorneys won't even take on a case of malpractice unless they are relatively certain they will not only win the case, but win a case with a huge award. All malpractice attorneys work on a contingency basis, so the argument that a person can't afford to sue is nonsense. Unfortunately it boils down to money. Once the defense attorney drags the case out as long as possible, run up tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees, it can often end up with the victim in the case receiving next to nothing, and attorneys' fees/costs barely covered. If you wonder why attorneys would fight a case to the end, knowing the victim is truly a victim and by all rights should be awarded, it's a matter of the odds. If they make them as expensive as possible to try, law firms (working solely on a contingency basis) will not take on cases without fairly large awards. No, it sucks and is not fair. While we sign away our life when undergoing ANY surgery, the truth of the matter is surgeons are NOT protected when it comes to negligence and malpractice, regardless of what one signs in the consent form. But yes, it is true that even board certified surgeons can and do have the occasional bad outcome. Being board certified does give the patient a bit of peace of mind. Becoming and renewing board certification takes ongoing knowledge, skill, and education in that particular field. I think this is a critical aspect in choosing a surgeon.
Incidentally, as a matter of public records, one can request all actions, sanctions, and limitations, including any cases or inquiries against their physician simply by contacting county records in the county the doctor practices.
Thanks again and I certainly hope I'm not one of the bad stories...but we'll know in three months ;). Take care.
November 16, 2013
Just because you were unhappy with your surgery and decided it was wrong for you doesn't mean it's wrong for everyone. Most people thoroughly research their doctor, the procedure and all the risks.
November 16, 2013
Thank you for that support! I would think most of have done the research, but you never know. I can relate to her somewhat as ive had a VERY bad result from laser resurfacing. I trusted my doctor without really thinking his lack of experience could have such devastating effects. Knowing what can happen (now) i would hesitate having laser resurfacing -at least anywhere off the face and neck, and with any doctor that did not have extensive experience. So i understand this woman, but also agree with you- most of us HAVE done our homework and are aware of the risks.
As I just updated my "journal" here, it's kind of lonely on this part of the board. I realize the surgery isn't nearly as common as many others, but I'm sure lots of people have them. Just wish they'd post here. :) Thanks for being here for me. :)
November 17, 2013
I'm sorry Sandi7 but I was referring to her posts, I was only replying because I read what she had wrote and she was saying she had anxiety over it and if anyone wants to talk her out of it. I know it might have been out of sarcasm but I still wanted to reach out to her and ask her these questions, if u read through my posts I have never told her not to do the surgery. I simply was asking her if she was able to handle this procedure and done her research. I guess I shouldn't take these reviews too literal huh. If someone asks for help I should just ignore it next time, thanks.
November 17, 2013
I've read the review and comments three times now. Doesn't change that she says talk her down. You refuse to spell my name correctly, so I don't have much faith that you care to thoroughly read things. I've seen you post on a lot of people's reviews, any time they have doubt, telling them to explant. You're a bully
November 17, 2013
now u have really gone insane, ur crazy, I've never told anyone to dio anything they didn't want, this is a support group not a website where we try to make each other miserable, for your information, I dint want to see other ppl get hurt, clearly I was only asking her things, re-read my posts please, also I type through swype I can care less if I have typos, you really need to back off, this is her review and she said she felt overwhelmed by all the good and the bad we kept exchanging messages, she wishes me the best and I do too, I have no idea how you came inti our posts. I in no way or manner am I telling her to NOT get anything done, hope for the best prepare for the worst, omg ppl these days, your clearly the bully going back n forth when there is no need for it, she obviously can see where I'm coming from relating to something she trusted but was let down. This is a community group where we can share info wether its good or bad. And please challenge me where in the world do you see I have told ppl to explant, your outta ur mind on that one. Never have I told anyone to do something drastic, only if their reviews talk about wanting to explant then real caring ppl offer their support. You got it really wrong.
November 18, 2013
Redwinelover, I understand your desire to feel better in your body, and.... wow, there's quite a discussion going on here! I've been researching cosmetic procedures for a long time now. I feel that FaithandHope11 and Confused in California both make good points. "Board certified plastic surgeons" are only as safe as the surgeries they perform. The number of people ruined by the board certified plastic surgeons is amazing. I've learned that many of them talk a lot about being "artists". I've just this week been reading more bad stories about thigh and flank liposuction. The worst ones seem to be those people who didn't have a fat issue but had a skin issue. By worst, I mean physical pain and health problems, not just bad cosmetic outcomes. The long-term outcome issues that Confused in California (and one of the doctors you consulted with) brought up seem to be a theme that comes up over and over again. The cases of plastic-surgery-created-harm often don't get to court, (nor do they get public coverage), so I believe that the awareness in the public is skewed. I've seen brave women like FaithandHope11 and others speak up on this site and get put down for it, but personally, I hope the brave ones keep talking. Insights from people like Faith have educated me (and hopefully other women) about some of the truths out there in the plastic surgery world. One thing does seem clear to me from this discussion, redwinelover: the good wishes for your health and happiness seem genuine. So, be well.
November 21, 2013
Wow. Somehow I'm not being notified of plates or comments. I do want to say I appreciate that I feel most people here are supportive. And faith- if you were truly being supportive, I appreciate it. Sandi- thank you for having my back! I really was looking for someone to calm my anxiety! The decision is made, deposit done, prepaid for a month's rent, airline tickets purchased...I'm not canceling w/o damn good cause! You read me right. Chacha- not sure what you're referring to as far as a doctor I consulted in California meant...please clarify?
If nothing else, there's at least discussion going on. My flankoplasty has much less to do with lipo than it does with excess skin excision. Does that affect your comments? Thanks!
November 21, 2013
Hi redwinelover. Hopefully your body lift/flankplasty surgery will be the best thing for you. I really hope so. I think that the suggestion made by Confused in California to speak with patients from a couple years back is a great idea, and so I simply meant to echo that. I've been reading about and researching reconstructive and cosmetic surgeries for so long now that my outlook of them has changed. I've read stories and spoken to people who had bad long-term, life changing health outcomes from so many procedures: breast reconstructions, breast implants, eyelid surgeries, butt lifts, thigh lifts, body lifts, facelifts, liposuction, and abdominoplasty. My concerns this year were raised in particular with regards to silicone breast implants, liposuction, and fat grafting. I've read stories of people who have had one operation that leads to another to try to fix the first. Many more than I'd been aware of. From my understanding, many cosmetic surgeries are hard on the body and the long-term outcomes are uncertain, regardless of the surgeon, or the number of board certifications they have. I've heard over and over again that people say they were harmed by plastic surgeons who described themselves as "artists". Another common theme is that many people choose surgery (that ultimately harmed them) even when they mentioned they could have felt better through diet and exercise, but obviously that isn't the case with excess skin. I came upon your blog as the heated conversation between Sandi7 and Faith was taking place, and that's what prompted me to comment. I read Faith's reviews, (they moved me to tears), and I've seen her working hard "in good faith" to try to educate others so they won't end up in the painful situation she finds herself in. I wanted to echo that I feel that her voice is strong and valid. Anyway, I only wish the best for you. I wanted to let you know that from the photo you have posted, I think you look amazing. Your shape and your posture is beautiful.
December 8, 2013
Please don't accuse people of being a bully. That is name calling a defamation on a public website. Here is some definition of the word bully: 1. A person who is habitually cruel or overbearing, especially to smaller or weaker people.
2. A hired ruffian; a thug.
3. To treat abusively
4. To threaten
Also I think it's against the terms of use here to practice namecalling and to cyberstalk (by reading her other posts then commenting on them here). Some people feel that being supportive is about helping someone see all the sides to an issue. OR sometimes a person has been so hurt by something he/she doesn't want to see others hurt. That is the opposite of being a bully.
June 4, 2015
Great that he responds to every email personally and in a short period of time, however, it would make me wonder when he has time to actually do surgery without it being a rush job. He does have other patients and I'm sure they all, or at least some, have plenty of questions for him. Would you want him to rush through your surgery because he was behind schedule due to answering his never-ending emails from a nervous prospective patient? Not me.
June 5, 2015
Wow.... Really? And yes.... Surgeons ARE supposed to answer you questions... Would you want to be operated on by someone who does not answer your questions?
June 5, 2015
Thank you, onedimsim! Exactly. And as it turned out, my surgery had to be completely revised. Did my original surgeon rush thru surgery? No, turns out he just wasn't good at those types of procedures. Had I not asked all the questions I did prior to having my surgery, I would likely have felt some sense of responsibility in the poor outcome. At least I know I did my due diligence. Thank god my dear friend, onedimsim, led me to her surgeon, Dr. Peter Fisher in San Antonio. He revised my entire LBL and thigh lift. He's a surgical genius and I'm forever grateful to them both.
Good for you for checking into different doctors before deciding who to go with - smart!
It will be very interesting to hear how this procedure is in relation to your other procedures, as far as downtime, healing, and your satisfaction in the end.
I'm so excited to see pictures when you are done...but on the off chance that you decid to give us a sneak peek beforehand I wouldn't be complaining. ;)
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