Bullhorn Lip Lift; detailed and ongoing review of entire experience

Pre-surgery there was about 18 mm of space between my nose and lips, immediately afterwards there was only 4 mm and now it has increased to 9 mm. I think between 11 or 12 mm of space is ideal and according to what I've read you can expect 1 or 2 mm of relapse as the skin relaxes so I'm hopeful (at least this minute, lol) :)

LOVE the new picture you have just posted! your lip look beautiful! How's your nostrils? Are they still wide, or is it getting better? I just had mine two days ago, my nostrils look really wide... I hope it's just temporary swelling.

Thanks! My nostrils are definitely feeling smaller, I think that the columella is the place that's going to take forever in my case :) How are you liking your results so far? Crazy how much things can change over the healing period so try not to stress out too much, believe me, I know it's easier said than done! Post a few pics if you feel up to it!

Your lip lift looks great! The scars look like they are well hidden in the creases of your nose unlike some that I've seen on the internet where the scar is right under the nose (under the creases, not in the creases like yours). Also, I noticed that your columella is lower than your nostrils now (lower than before your lip lift) and that also makes a big improvement to your look. ho was your surgeon? He did one of the best lip lift jobs I have ever seen! Also, did he just cut under your columella? Or under your nostrils as well? How much did it cost you?

may6385, i found your entrys so informative. i just had a lip lift done by dr hasden in dallas and i have the same complaints you do the space between my nose and mouth was quite long. but after i came out of surgery my lip looked like it was nearly attached to my nose, needless to say i was freaked out, but the girls in the office assured me it would all be fine. i paid no attention to them as they work for the dr. so what are they suppusto say. i had the surgery done on the 18th so this is all very new 5 days post op. but like you said the collolem, well you know what i mean has been moved forward, maybe down is more like it and the lip looks like a t-p and upside down v. scarry. i did read what you wrote about having a partial gull wing to bring the sides so the cupids bow is not so high up in the nose. well the upside is it did come down a hair and dr hasden said when the swelling subsides he would do a gullwing on the sides as i have a wider mouth. so for you girls that have a wide mouth the bullhorn alone is not the answer it is both. the bullhorn and the gullwing on the sides and possibly even a corner lift to really perk things up. the stifness of the under nose set in on me by the third day, but i had no pain after the surgery as i have heard. the nostrils look larger because the middle was moved down just a bit, but may your mouth looks great and you have been so inspiring ad i have had alot of stress and now i have to go back to have the sides lifted so the middle is so high, so again if you girls that are considering having a lip lift and you have alot of space between your lip and nose the two procedures can both be done at one time.. May I don't know who the nut is that writes you these negative messages is but she is full of it. your lips look fablous and all of the rest think so also. I am not so worried about the lips as i think i have the solution to my problem with the gullwing sides but the big nose holes and the lower collum in the middle, but its not real bad is it? I guess you have to give one to get the other. now for you girls that have not had the proceduce of the lip lift done yet dr. ramerio rodrigues in baltimore maryland talks a pretty good game google lip lift surgery and also go to you tube about lip lifts he is informative. as far as out dallas dr. i know you stayed at the southlake hilton but they have a value place on 114 about 4 or 5 miles tops for $225.00 a week so cab would be inexpensive for you out of towners. but may i do think at this time that dr. k. sew;s pretty well,don;t you? he didn't leave my stiches in but 4 days and then put liquid skin on the cut, he said to leave it on until it fell off.. this is getting pretty long, but getting back to dr. rodrigues in baltimore i what i get from his web site he doesn't remome the collum between the nostrils he stiches through it therefore the nose would stay intact.. again your lip look great! great! great! if you reply tell me how long it took for the top of the lip to flatten out and not feel so thick? thanks sssssss

May I am Sandy from Texas. I just went to the same Dr. you did and I know what you are talking about the columella. obviously he detaches the columella therefore it is replaced lower, but he pulled my lip up to high trying to see some teeth and it appears i only have maybe on the long side one fourth of an inch. I don't know how the man could sew in that short of a space. I am completely freaked out the mouth looks like a tee-pee. the office girls told me they just did a client that complained of the same problem and she turned out beautifully. The difference between you and me is my lip had fallen down past my top teeth so I really had a ways to pull up before you would see teeth, also he only pulled me up in the cupids bow and a very pronounced cupid bow, so now i look like i have a very tall M for a lift. I am very disgusted needless to say. I know you mentioned a side gull wing and I mentioned this to Hasden.

when I mentioned the gullwing and the word bullhorn he said he didn't know what I was talking about, He said, I just call it a lip lift. That was pretty scary for your Dr. not to know what the procedure is called. This conversation took place after surgery and he is willing to do the gullwing on the sides to bring them up, but he should know that the taller he brings the lip up that will drag the sides down. I'm not sure if he knows how to do a gullwing as possibly the stitches are done in a certain way and possibly a raise in the scar area. If I only had a raised scar on the sides that could be queer too. This is a mess. Beth his office girl said, It's great, why would you want to have lips like everyone elses? the lip is so tight. Did yours loosen up? and how long did it take. I looked your pictures over well and you turned out beautifully but yours never looked like a tee -pee like mine. Also, the sides seem to dog flap down. The split between the top lip and the bottom are not straight across. If you have a minute to chat I would love to talk to you. Big nostrils, low fat columells, tee-pee lips, this procedure can turn out great or it can be a nightmare. Dr.'s should tell the patient that the lip lift will only pull the middle of the lip up and not the sides of the mouth before hand and make plans accordingly to correct the whole top lip. I know you are real sold on Hasden but I don't think he thinks his whole procedure through. He should not have pulled the lip up so extreme and taken some of the lip out under the lip as in a lip reduction to expose teeth. thanks for listening! Sandy from Texas.

Britt, This is, Sandy! I have some pictures for the site of my lip lift and what a mess it is. If I fax them to you can you convert them to the Real Self web site? E-mail and let me know. Sandy from Texas

Hi sandy,

I sent you a PM about your pictures. Hope that helps!

-Britt

Reacher Becky and the rest of the girls, this is Sandy from Texas! I have got to get these pictures on the site someway. It takes alot of thinking and staring at the aftermath of a lip lift surgery to really know how the procedure is done to be correct. The doctor I went to in Southlake, Texas.( Dr. Hasden) pulls the columella forward and down. If you will look at May pictures side and front you can see that the columella has been brought down at least one quarter of an inch. This makes for a shorter distance from the nose to the mouth. I had a very small nose pre-op and now after having the columella brought forward it has pugged my nose off sumething unreal. The distance of what a lift should be is probably not that questionable. Dr, Ricardo Rodriguez says, it's 1.1 cinnemeter. That sounds about right. If only a quarter of an inch was raised that would probably please most people, but do not pull the nose down to shorten the distance from nose to lip. We all need to tell the name of the doctor we used and the pro's and con's of the lift, as I know how my doctor does this procedure is not correct..At first the patient is so confused and swollen they are not sure what took place, and after talking with him I'm not sure how many of these procedures he has performed. He really pleased a girl name Karla on the make me heal website and my doctor told me that after she did that/ the calls started rolling in. May was one of the lucky ones from this Dr. no telling how many surgeries I will have to have to correct what he has done to me. Check out the distance from May's nostrils to the top of the lip, He raised her yes but not that much, which is fine. The shorting effect of the distance is very much an illusion as the columella has been moved and is making it appear that the lip has been moved more than it really has. I got the exact same lip lift, the only difference is May had a little bit more nose than I did. Until I had my pictures made I could not see all of this so clearly. My lip lift goes straight up and I thought all of my teeth should be showing, like too much took.. The tooth show is fine, the shortness comes from the moving of the columella. We'll have to use May's pictures as an example as I have the same job, and I don't have any pictures up yet. Notice the distance between her nostrils and her lip, now notice the distance from her columella and her lip. Quite a difference. This procedure does not require that much lift to totally change your mouth, smile and show of teeth. All patients need to ask, are you going to move my columella. Who would think to ask that question? None of us right. I didn't even know what a colmella was before I got on this site and read May complaining about her columella. Now and only Now do I know what she is talking about. I have not notified my doc yet as I know he is going to say its too soon. No its not, He did a freak job on me and he knows it. Everyone that see's it knows how wrong it is. May will be recieving pictures in a day or so I will have her post a message on the site when she does. Bye for now, we'll find a decent doctor. Sandy from Texas

I also hate the fake reviews like "Your scar will fade in two weeks'. BALDERDASH!