Get the real deal on beauty treatments—real doctors, real reviews, and real photos with real results.Here's how we earn your trust.

POSTED UNDER Affirm Laser Reviews

Face Ruined After Gemini Laser - Columbus, OH

UPDATED FROM Blessedtobeme
4 years post

Inflammation control

Blessedtobeme
$400
Working really hard to get this inflammation down. I got off Keto which I think the dairy and high fat were contributing. Maintaining my gentle skin care regimen and have done 3 sessions with my LED mask altering between red, green and amber. I feel like I’m starting to see some level of calming. I will continue on this program and update soon.

Blessedtobeme's provider

George C. Skandamis, MD, FAAD

George C. Skandamis, MD, FAAD

Board Certified Dermatologist

Blessedtobeme rating for Dr. Skandamis:

Overall rating
Doctor's bedside manner
Answered my questions
After care follow-up
Time spent with me
Phone or email responsiveness
Staff professionalism & courtesy
Wait times

Replies (0)

UPDATED FROM Blessedtobeme
4 years post

UFO?

Blessedtobeme
I’m baffled that 4 years later new laser tracks and pattens still emerge.. how is this possible.. and how long can that go on? I’d really just like to understand what’s going on under my skin but no one has the answers. we are basically just guinea pigs and experiments. The latest shape is the flying saucer on my face. Wonder if it is just passing through or here to stay??

Replies (4)

March 10, 2020
Have you tired doing and home peels to correct texture? It might help. I was left with scarring from ipl and gemini laser (2nd and 3rd degree burns) and they have helped tremendously for my 3rd degree burn and I'm working up the courage to use a stronger % to try and correct the superficial indentations. I've been using 70% glycolic acid, MUAC Fade Peel, The Ordinary aha bha and 30% TCA cross method for my 3rd degree burn. My gemini 3rd degree burn is about 90% better! I'll never trust another doctor with my face, again!
March 11, 2020
I'm with you.. no more doctors near my face. Anything I do will be of my own accord. I have not tried any peels.. I am worried that they will exasperate my inflammation and I'm still trying to get that under control. I started LED light therapy and I'm doing a separate review for that. I have seen some small improvements in the level of inflammation. I will put pics up soon
March 11, 2020
How exactly do you do the peel if you don't mind sharing what is your process
March 3, 2023
Oh, my...I was googling for a gemini laser near me (there isn't one - they seem to be rare/hard to find?) to improve the appearance of some broken capillaries from a bad sunburn I got 10 years ago. Only a few places in a few states (NY, MN, VA) offer it...I couldn't understand why. I'm in Honolulu, and my hometown is ATX and I was confused, like why would no one in these places offer gemini laser treatments if they're so great for broken caps??? Well, that search led me here....I'm shocked to discover SO many ppl have been severely burned! Is that why the KTP gemini laser is so hard to find? Do any of these 'doctors' even refund your money, or help you fix the damage? What a scam! This is infuriating. Are they hiding all their negative reviews? I didn't realize it was so common for people to be injured by these lasers....my heart breaks for yall...The doctors really don't have any sort of satisfaction guarantee?? Maybe I'll look into microneedling for my broken caps....jeez I'm scared of lasers now
March 11, 2020
Because peels induce inflammation by way of penetrating the epidermis and doing basically a controlled burn (heat), I think using microdermabrasion, aluminum oxide crystals instead to manually polish your skin once a month will do wonders to ameliorate the indentions. The Need Crystals brand, 120 grit is a great product. Think of it like polishing a stone making it smooth. If you venture into using that I recommend applying a buffer to your face first to mix the crystals into, so the crystals don't have direct contact with your skin because that would be too abrasive. They typically recommend you use a facial cleanser as the vehicle, but I prefer to use hair conditioner (as crazy as that sounds) as a buffer in which to incorporate the microdermabrasion crystals into my skin, instead of cleanser so my skin doesn't get dried out. You want to polish in different directions, horizontally, diagonally and vertically giving yourself a very thorough polishing exfoliation, once a month to allow your skin to heal, regenerate and smooth over the indentions. Aluminum oxide crystals are ph neutral so they don't disrupt the skin barrier by being either acidic or alkaline. You can start out slowly until you get the hang of how to vigorously polish your skin to mimic a machine microdermabrasion. I prefer the crystals over the microdermabrasion machine because the machine suction can in itself be damaging causing vasodilation, capillary starbursts, etc. Initially your skin is pink when you get out of the shower but it's calms down very quickly and feels tremendously smooth. Part of healthy skin is exfoliating off dead skin cells so it can receive any great products that you're applying to it. So if you're not doing any form of exfoliation, I think the crystals would be the most non-intrusive choice.
March 12, 2020
Thanks for sharing this info!! I don't know that my skin could handle this quite yet but maybe eventually. I have to get this inflammation under control. Started my LED therapy and am transitioning to an anti inflammatory diet
March 12, 2020
You're very welcome. You could start with a gentle exfoliation by using white rice flour mixed with water (which is a softer exfoliation and skin brightener). Again, exfoliation is an important part of rejuvenating the skin so that healthy new skin cells can receive the products you're applying. Wishing you the best!
March 12, 2020
You have a kind of rosacea from your skin being compromised. This same thing happened to me. I got a series of peels that made my skin super thin, starting to get that crepey, thin look. Then I did microneedling when it was still in that fragile state and I have track marks and scar lines all over my face now. It's been three years for me and I have researched a lot about what was happening to my skin in the aftermath. I learned about an organism called Demodex that all of us have. When our skin is healthy, the biome of our skin lives in harmony with these little bugs (gross I know), but as we age and our skin thins out, or our body starts to experience inflammation from sickness...or even if we're a younger person who has inflammation in their body from breast implants or an auto-immune disease...or we have destroyed our skin from these unneeded cosmetic procedures--well, the demodex can get way overpopulated and when it does that, it's very difficult to ever get it back under control because your skin is damaged, thinned out and inflamed. The older we get, these things happen anyway. Studies on Demodex show that children barely have any, with seniors having an over-abundance. Demodex cause our skin to look crappy--stretched out pores, pimples, inflammation and wrinkles. Google all of this. You honestly look like you have rosacea, just like I did--never had rosacea before but after my skin got destroyed, I started to get red patches in different places on my face with a lot of bumps everywhere that wasn't acne, tons of lines, big pores, crepey skin and more wrinkles and sag. Read the scientific studies, the one thing that helps rosacea is ivermectin--although doctors have tried to make it more complicated throughout the years with different treatments that aren't as effective. Ivermectin will help you because it will start killing the demodex so you can get control of the inflammation in your skin. There is a cream called Soolantra that you can get from a dermatologist but it's ridiculously expensive. It works well but who wants to pay $500 for one tube of it? Through a lot of reading I found out that you can get really cheap ivermectin, because ivermectin is off patent and IS very cheap. It is sold on Amazon--it's a paste that is made for horses to eat to kill little critters that bother them. This is all sounds crazy but this seriously works. If you even read the comment section, a lot of people buy this paste for themselves and their skin issues. Ivermectin is safe (research it) and will not give you any side effects. I have put on a thick layer of this paste almost every night for two years. After the initial purge of more acne, my skin improved drastically within a few days of starting it. I have to maintain it or my skin gets out of control again. Also, every few months I take doses of the ivermectin pill to start my body at baseline because it is difficult to keep my skin in a neutral state without it tipping back to looking bad. You have to be diligent. Another thing that has helped a lot is the candida cleanse by Dr. Axe because sometimes when my skin has tipped back to being gross again, I noticed there was almost a yeasty look to the rashes on my face. The DIM supplement has also helped me with the acne. I guarantee you your skin will start to look better if you try this. I know I'm opening myself up to ridicule by posting this. No, I am not one of those Morgellons people talking about bugs in their skin. Demodex is a real problem, I think it is more prevalent then dermatologists even admit and is the cause for a lot of people's skin problems. But Ivermectin in itself is cheap which is why pharmacies usually combine it with a bunch of stuff and sell it at huge mark-ups. If you decide to try this, it is called Duramectin on Amazon. You get three tubes for less than $12. I empty one tube into an empty container that I keep sealed and then when it is all used, empty a new one. I want you to have hope. This will not fix the scars--I still have line scars on my cheeks but I honestly get compliments on my skin all the time because I have very small pores now (demodex stretch out pores) and few wrinkles. I've asked a few people, don't you see my scars? They say no for whatever that's worth, probably because I keep my skin extremely moisturized with oils, rather than moisturizer. Also, one of my favorite products is the truth serum by Ole Henriksen. I've tried tons of products (TONS) and I always come back to this for that perfect glow without looking greasy. I also use Water Drench Hyaluronic Acid to help with the look of the crepey skin and scars and it honestly helps. Also, niacinamide is amazing for the crepey skin that comes with skin damage, and it is not expensive. I buy a cheap one off Amazon and put it on my problem areas--it tightens and instantly smooths out the crepey spots. Back when I would get botox it would help even more, and my skin would look like glass, but I'm at the point where I am resistant to putting anything in my body that can trigger all of my auto-immune issues. For what it's worth, I am getting out my breast implants this summer and am so excited about it. I don't know if you have implants, but that is definitely another thing that will be contributing to your skin not healing. All of the inflammation the implants cause make a perfect environment for the Demodex to go crazy. I think that's why I feel like I'm in a constant fight with maintaining my skin's balance. You're one of the stories that I always remembered when I was going through my RealSelf binge, looking for things to help the devastation I was going through with my skin being ruined. I wish the best for you and your son. No one should have to live with the crippling depression that a person feels when they feel they have destroyed their face unnecessarily through actions of their own. It would seriously be easier if we didn't feel like we made a bad decisions and brought this on ourselves. I understand--I have gone through all of it! Oh, one more thing, I have a prescription for the ivermectin pills because I have a doctor in my family who wrote me a prescription, but you can go to a dermatologist and ask them to scrape your skin and look for an overabundance of demodex. Sometimes dermatologists will get condescending about this for whatever reason, but sometimes they acknowledge that demodex are actually a huge problem for some people. Hopefully you can find someone with a good attitude, which can be hard and discouraging if you can't. I THINK you can buy ivermectin from pharmacies in Canada or abroad but I have never done this and I imagine it would be more expensive. Most of the time people will get these pills for scabies or things like that--they are inexpensive and not dangerous at all unless you take a TON of them within a short time. They have no side-effects, and believe me, I researched a ton because I am actually pretty anti-medication unless completely necessary. I take three of them and then ten days later, I take three more pills. It kills all the bugs and parasites in my body so I can start at baseline. Unfortunately, you will start accumulating the Demodex again very quickly because they love compromised skin and can proliferate fast which is why it is important to maintain putting the gel on. Then three months later I do the pills again--three and then ten days later, three more. I hope this helps you. Please research on your own and let me know if you have any questions. Your skin will improve a lot by bringing down the numbes of Demodex that have taken up residence in your pores.
March 12, 2020
March 12, 2020
Violet, wow. First of lol you would never get ridicule from me for trying to offer helpful advice on my review.. and if anyone else is thinking about it they can take it somewhere else. I welcome this information with open arms. Thank you so much for taking the time to share all of this seriously. I think you are 100% right about the rosacea it's been something I've contemplated for quite some time now. But I don't think I was born with it.. I absolutely believe it is a side effect of the laser and my skin being compromised. I also think you have extremely valid points on the Demodex. So in my research I have found that the LED mask I am using (rosalight) look it up- is effective in killing the kites which is why people with rosacea have success with it. Or at least one reason among many. I am for sure going to look into everything you have mentioned. Thank you again. I will keep updating. And I will get better. I am not going to let this mistake plague me for the rest of my life. I can't let it.
March 12, 2020
First of all^ not first of lol**
March 12, 2020
Look up the rosalight, read the reviews. This may help you too!
October 30, 2020
Demodex here as well post dot laser. What is the dosage of your invermectin pills please? Soolantra works a treat!
March 5, 2023
Everyone with damage please look into Procell micro channeling. It's the thing that has helped me and I was in very bad shape. Just look at my pictures.
UPDATED FROM Blessedtobeme
4 years post

Devastated

Blessedtobeme
Guys I don’t know how to describe the anguish I feel right now. I feel that my skin is worse than ever 4 years later and I’m regressing and seeing new damage years later. I don’t know what to do. I don’t even want to live anymore. I have nothing. I’ve been numb. A shell of me. The laser marks that zig and zag across my face make me nauseous and I just want to hide forever. No will to live anymore. The one thing I had was taken from me and I’ll never be the same. At this point only living for my kid. Nothing else brings me joy.

Replies (3)

March 3, 2020
Hey, I read your whole story - REALLY heartfelt for you and your trauma. I warn everyone I can not to do lasers, having seen all the damage on here. At 2 years your skin seemed much improved - and then reverted? Were you using using ANY actives to cause even the slightest inflammation? Or, is your skin still sensitized (where you can actually still *feel* sensitivity) from the laser?
March 3, 2020
Hi tuffy, good on you for spreading the word, everyone needs to know! You are correct at two years I felt like I was not necessarily past it but doing well, seeing some improvement of inflammation def not texture and accepting it. Lately I don't know what has caused this relapse .. I'm racking my brain to figure it out. I really haven't changed anything so I don't know what has caused the inflammation as of late.. really disheartening to say the least. Maybe the cold weather and indoor heat have dried me out and contributed ?? Owvwer My skin has been super sensitive ever since I mean even the slightest rubbing causes me to go red for a bit.
March 3, 2020
Also thank you for taking the time to read my story. I hope that it saves someone from a mistake or at least helps people make informed decisions
March 3, 2020
At this time you need to be very gentle with your skin. Perhaps oil cleansing with Jojoba oil and follow with something like Biologique Recherche creme masque vernix to help calm and restore your skin barrier. Psoria Gold also makes a gel called face ultra for severe skin. My prayers are with you as someone who was also damaged I feel your pain. Hugs
March 3, 2020
Yes, I second everything Jodi said, don't do anything to disrupt the skin barrier. I would also apply any products, including oils, on top of wet skin (do not dry it off with a towel!). It's very important to leave water molecules on your skin because hydration comprises part of an intact skin barrier. Consider using a hyaluronic acid product to bind to the water molecules to help secure that hydration on your skin before applying oils or moisturizer. A good one is Dr Song's Hyaluronic acid on Amazon. It doesn't have any actives in it, such as vitamin C, etc. Baby, baby, baby it. Think a bit like a baby's butt :). To me, all of your textural issues seem very superficial, which in my opinion will resolved with time. The good news is skin regenerates and remodels completely every 7 years. It starts with the basal layer up to the stratum corneum - that complete turnover take 7 years so those upper damaged skin layers will slough off with time. Thank God you're not seeing any of the fat loss, divots and other deeper scarification. In its totality I think your skin looks pretty, and hopeful :)).
March 4, 2020
Thank you both for the suggestions. I appreciate it. I want to start dermarolling but I'm also terrified. Going to do a test patch tonight and just see how things react. Only using a .25 to get the HA serum to absorb better. Wish me luck..it's just so weird watching new track marks appear 4 years later.. how is this possible?? Terrifying to have no clue what's going under my skin and what's going to appear any day. It's literally a horror movie out of my control.. thanks for the compliment I wish I could see that but all I can see is the nightmare. Currently have a new huge spaceship looking mark and I have no clue what it is.. is it inflammation or laser burn emerging?? I just have no explanation .
March 4, 2020
Pretty positive I'm dealing with "laser recall dermatitis" I'm going to make an appointment with a specialist.
March 4, 2020
Just make sure you are using a really good roller like Environ because the cheap rollers can cause tears in the skin.
March 4, 2020
Hey guys I had a thought... I started keto diet several weeks ago, which means basically just eating fats no carbs no fruit.. wondering if the vitamin deficiency could be contributing to my recent skin inflammation. Possible vitamin c deficiency?? Thoughts?? I
March 4, 2020
Apparently vitamin c deficiency can cause atopic dermatitis and exacerbate skin conditions... shit.
March 4, 2020
I see a wholistic practioner and her thought is keto diet will damage you. You need to eat all the fruits, all the vegetables.
March 4, 2020
I'm really starting To think this is a part of what's going on. It's the first time I've made a drastic lifestyle change and my skin has gone off the rails here..
March 4, 2020
I don't know, I eat a high protein and high fat diet with only grass fed meat, milk and eggs and I look 10 years younger. We need healthy fats and cholesterols to maintain healthy skin lipids. Eating PRIMARILY fruit and (some) vegetables) are high in sugar, too much sugar can cause glycation (break down of collagen in the skin). You might actually be losing too much fat on the keto too rapidly which might be affecting your skin plumpness. When I lose fat, I lose it in my face which I don't like. Elizabeth Taylor said if you want to look 10 years younger, gained 10 lbs. :). I keep an extra 7-10 on to keep my face filled in.
Ultimately, I would not forgo your healthy fats, but instead eat a more healthy well-balanced diet. Now's not the time not to disrupt any kind of healing processes in your body, so eat what your body desires. It will let you know.
March 4, 2020
gain, not "gained" ^ damn voice text. Really gotta check that stuff first! lol
March 4, 2020
Sugar from fruit is totally different and does not cause glycation. I also eat grass fed grass finished meat, pastures chickens and eggs and wild caught fish. In addition I use real butter, but milks and healthy oils.
March 4, 2020
And I’m sorry I didn’t mean only fruits and vegetables, but all the fruits and vegetables in addition to a balanced diet.
March 4, 2020
Yes, completely agree. I need to round out my diet more keeping the healthy fats and grass fed meats and butter but incorporate more fruits and veggies so I am not deficient.
March 4, 2020
That all sounds good :).

Btw, put in exactly "glycation from fructose" into Google search bar...
March 8, 2020
March 8, 2020
March 8, 2020
Hello! thank you for your comment. I am so sorry to hear you had a horrible experience and life-changing procedure involving your skin it is absolutely the worst. I have not tried Accutane I have looked into it but I am slightly scared about all the side effects I've read are associated.
March 8, 2020
I think it something I could definitely explore more as of today I will be starting LED light therapy. Done a lot of research on it and it seems to be pretty effective for redness/rosacea/inflammation
March 8, 2020
I will definitely make sure to update as to how it affects my skin
March 8, 2020
Well I never noticed other side effects than a little dry lips. I think for this issue we only need a low dose over several months or even years. Keep me updated with your progress!
March 8, 2020
Oh yeah that's definitely good to hear! Yea that may be a viable option for me. And yes I certainly will..stay tuned. Fingers crossed for positive updates!!