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Revision Lip Lift and Tip Plasty with Dr. Randal Haworth- Los Angeles, CA

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Prior to having surgery with Dr. Haworth, I'd had...

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Seattle2584
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Prior to having surgery with Dr. Haworth, I'd had mostly good experiences with plastic surgery. All had improved my looks but there were a few that I was not 100% happy with. A skin only lip lift had pulled my columella down and previous rhinoplasty had left me with some tip asymmetry. Both surgeries had left my features better than before, but I felt that there was room for improvement.

The lip lift is not a procedure that a lot of doctors do, so I wanted to be sure to go to someone with a lot of experience in this procedure. Dr. Haworth heavily promotes himself as a lip lift specialist and charges significantly more than other surgeons, so I thought that I would be in good hands.

I was entering a new chapter in my life and wanted to do something indulgent for myself so I decided to have a little bit of conservative liposuction and an earlobe reduction at the same time; one bout of general anesthesia, one recovery period. In hindsight I do not believe having multiple procedures done at once is a good idea. It's difficult enough to deal with one bad outcome but almost unbearable dealing with four. I paid $30,000 in total for these procedures and the surgery took approx 5 hours.

The aftermath of those 5 hours is something that I am still dealing with today. Every part of my body that was touched looked much worse than it did before, something I never could've imagined possible. This was the first time I'd had an experience with plastic surgery where no improvement was made whatsoever, and more than that I was left with obvious surgical defects on my face and body.

I have already reviewed the liposuction and earlobe surgery, but for the past three years I could not bring myself to post photos of my facial features. I was worried that someone that knows me might see them (and know the truth behind my strange appearance) and I was also emotionally unprepared to deal with these photos being publicly scrutinized as the bad outcomes from these surgeries had thrown me into a depression so deep that my life felt like a living hell.

I had also experienced firsthand how those who post a negative review of this doctor are treated. Posters claiming to be "happy patients" appear like clockwork on Dr. Haworth's negative reviews to defend the doctor, post testimonials, pick apart the before and after photos, accuse the OP of being "mentally unbalanced" and other personal attacks in an attempt to discredit their review.

Though he was unavailable to me when I had post operative complications, and stood me up for my post op phone appointment, Dr. Haworth himself personally responded to me when I wrote my first brief review of his work on RealSelf, and in that response went as far as to disclose personal information from my medical file (a clear violation of doctor patient confidentiality and HIPPA) in an attempt to excuse or blame my bad result on the fact that I had prior surgery. The response and handling of my justifiable dissatisfaction was almost as bad as the surgical outcome to me.

I saw what I was in for and I just did not have the strength to deal with these people at the time, but given continued harassment as of late, I have decided to finally show the rest of his work and let it speak for itself.

As you can see in my photos, the muscle hemming lip lift cinched the columella and the upper lip back, creating a sharp, unnatural, and unattractive angle of the upper lip in profile. Now that I know what to look for I have seen this in some of the other photos of his muscle hemming lip lifts (when a profile view is shown). There is also some issue with the movement of the upper lip when making certain sounds.

The scar from his lip lift is horrible, and I lost the curve and crease of my outer nostrils. When removing my stitches he was in a hurry to see another patient (I suppose I was old news now that he had my money) and he ripped the stitches and created a hole on one side, which did not scar well.

The tip plasty that was supposed to be a minor correction of asymmetry changed my nose entirely and not for the better as you can see in the photo.

I am also including a few photos of the liposuction and earlobe surgery here to make it easy.

As you can see, the liposuction left me with significant dents and contour irregularities on my lower back (this area had never been touched by surgery before), and the overly agressive liposuction beneath my buttocks (again, never touched by surgery before) removed the shelf of fat supporting that area and caused my buttocks to drop and the gluteal fold to extend almost to my outer thighs.

The earlobe reduction created two mismatched and equally unnaturally shaped ears. It is very noticeable from a front view as one earlobe now appears much higher than the other.

I have learned my lesson the hard way, but I feel some sense of responsibility to share what happened to me in the hope that others will not go down this road of ruin. Be careful with your bodies, ladies. You have no idea how much you have until it's gone.

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November 13, 2014
I want to thank you so much for your bravery and honesty. You saved me a trip to LA to see him. His PR machine is far better than his operating skill. I am really sorry that you have suffered so unnecessarily. You had the nightmare outcome all plastic surgery canidates fear, and that is to look worse than before you went in!!!! Are you sure this man is a real doctor?
November 13, 2014
Yikes, omg I have never seen such horrible scarring after a lip lift. You look butchered. You have been treated so badly by this doctor and his "patients" on this site. You are a brave woman to come out and still share your very sad story. So many people wish that realself had been around years ago so that mistakes like this could have been avoided. So sorry this happened to you.
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November 13, 2014
Iam so sad for u sis ...
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November 14, 2014
Thanks for your support Trakolta, Marnie and Lulu, yes, it is so good that we have sites like Realself where we can share our experiences so that others can learn from our mistakes (and our successes). Unfortunately there is a major problem with false reviews on all of these sites. I was taken in by all the "5 star reviews" and didn't realize how rampant astroturfing is in the plastic surgery industry. It is truly a buyer beware market. I had actually seen some negative reviews about Dr. Haworth that made me nervous (though they didn't have pictures). I almost backed out of my surgery, but Monica, his nurse, told me how incredibly talented he is, and how a "mentally unstable patient" had been posting bad reviews under multiple screen names. I believe they are still using that story today. I decided to post my photos because they cannot be explained away with another falsehood. I truly hope that nobody else has to suffer through this.
November 13, 2014
I think your ears look great :)
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November 30, 2014
If you like a surgical asymmetrical look I guess.
November 13, 2014
that scar is brutal :( i'm sorry. i consulted with Haworth myself and something seemed off.
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November 14, 2014
Your sixth sense saved you!
November 14, 2014
Seattle, I am truly appalled at what was done to you. I agree with Arte, that lip lift scar is brutal. I have corresponded with other haworth patients from another plastic surgery website who have shared pictures with me of their lip lifts and believe me as bad as your is, you got off easy. I saw a picture of one woman who looked like she had a stroke from the nerve and muscle damage from his muscle hemming lip lift. She has difficulty talking and pronouncing certain word. She had so many complications. I also saw a picture of another young girl who had similar scarring as you. It must be his suturing technique. So sorry for you.
November 14, 2014
Bty, I am not minimizing your damage and complications at all. I am just saying that he seems to have quite a few patients with extreme complications.
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November 14, 2014
Thank you brooke. Yes, I have also seen some photos from patients with horrific scarring and others with even more severe complications like you mentioned. I barely left my house for a long time after this happened to me. I had the surgery in secret so I was hiding in shame and didn't want to see anyone who knew me. I'm sure that this only added to my depression and I know that others have gone through similar experiences following their surgeries. It was more difficult than I can adequately put into words. I have since had the scar surgically revised and have been doing micro needling treatments to the new scar so things look much better today. I am back in the land of the living! I also had a revision rhino which addressed the sharp angle of my upper lip at the same time. I think I was only able to post these pictures now because things are much improved. When you're still in the thick of it, it's just too close to home. I am having a second attempt to revise the liposuction in December, so I feel hopeful that I can soon put this mostly behind me. That said, I feel that it is so important to share what happened so that others have this information before they make such an important decision.
November 15, 2014
What an emotional roller coaster you have been through. I believe the emotional toll that botched plastic surgery can have on you can be just as bad as the physical aspects. When you are an intelligent woman or man, it seems as though you can experience a lot of shame when you feel as though you were fooled into thinking that you went to a skilled surgeon and later finding out otherwise. He obviously does very sloppy work. Bty, the cinched look that you got from his lip Lift seems to be a common complication. Another woman who had a lip lift with him tried to have that area surgically released. She says that it looked good for a month, but then it scarred down again. Then she had fat injected deep to try to release it again, but it did not last. Now she says she in looking into Paranasal implants to get back a more natural look. From what I have seen with most of his muscle hemming lip lifts, he removes that natural curve from the profile view and gives that clamped down look.
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November 16, 2014
For sure the emotional aspect is real and profound, and something that I really couldn't talk to many people about. This has affected every aspect of my life in a negative way and taken up so much time and money that I feel 20 years older since it all began. Bad plastic surgery will make the happiest person in the world miserable! The cinched looking upper lip is so unattractive, it destroys the profile. I think it is due to the muscle hemming, and you're right I think it is fairly common with this procedure. Mine has been improved with fat grafts but it's still too sharp. I have looked into paranasal implants as well but don't think I'll do that as they have a high rate of complications. Unfortunately I may just have to live with some of these issues as I don't want to risk making it worse...
November 16, 2014
Seattle, You are quite brave to come forward. I don't understand what he did to your nose. It looks like he cut the bottom of your nostrils off, so you don't have that curve. They used to have a cute round shape and he pulled them down. Sometimes I've read that they elongate years after a lip lift, but it looks like yours were pulled down from the actual surgery. I have seen elongated nostrils from his lip lift on this site before though, so maybe it's his technique. And that scar. OMG. Do you do the micro needling treatments at home. Do you bleed after the treatment? I have heard that those treatments do help scaring.
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November 16, 2014
Thanks for your comment Makeuplover. I think that the sloppy suturing job combined with a sloppy suture removal job (he ripped the stitches while removing them as he was in a hurry to see another patient) is the reason for the horrible scarring around my nostrils. The thick scarring did pull down the nostrils some, but I think that the columella and upper lip were shoved up and back more than the nostrils were pulled down. This is part of the muscle hemming, which as you can see, creates a very odd and unnatural profile. I have since had the scar surgically revised (elsewhere) to do away with most of the destroyed tissue. Then, I had "Dermapen" skin needling treatments performed by an aesthetician. You bleed a little bit but look fine with makeup the next day :) I still have some issues with the crease but today the scar is much much better.
November 16, 2014
I'm so sorry. I totally understand -- er, mostly understand--I was botched, but in other ways....Nonetheless, I totally get it. The arrogance of these self-proclaimed demigod surgeons is appalling. And to put insult upon injury is their cruel and apathetic team of 'reputation menders', who were probably hand-picked for their cold-hearted unscrupulousness. How easily they slither into the discussion, planting their seeds of doubt.... They have no qualms against using intimidation and doublespeak to discredit and discount your claims as if they are purely anecdotal..... They twist your words to make your experience seem exaggerated and outlandish--as if you just imagined and invented your whole hellish ordeal....But don't worry, the REAL people here on Realself believe you.
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November 16, 2014
Flat2fake2free'n'fab, thank you so much for your supportive words. Sounds like you've had some very painful experiences yourself.I read some of what you wrote on your review. I am so sorry for what you've been through and hope that things have gotten better for you? These "reputation menders" as you call them really aren't fooling anyone and only demonstrate the callousness of the businesses who choose to treat patients that they have wronged with further harm rather than attempting to do right by them.
UPDATED FROM Seattle2584

My nose and scar after revision rhino, surgical scar revision and Dermapen treatments (all done elsewhere)

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I took a new photo so that you can see how my nose and scar look today. Much better but I will most likely have to live with the fact that the nostril crease and curve are never going to be natural looking again. I will update soon with a profile view so that you can see the difference there.

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November 17, 2014
I am glad that you were able to find a treatment to help with the scaring. It's too bad that he removed the natural curve of your nostrils. You really had a cute feminine looking nose before. Can't a revision rhino surgeon create a new curve with some sort of grafting material. He sort of made your nasal base look like the base of someone who has a cleft palate. There are surgeons out there who only work on people with cleft palates. Maybe one of them can help you?
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November 17, 2014
I don't know, I have been through so much, and at this point I am just glad to not look totally freakish anymore. I'm afraid to have another surgery on my nose and risk making things worse. My concern right this minute is to have the deformities that he created on my body corrected.
November 17, 2014
You are probably right. I pray that your liposuction revision goes smoothly.
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November 17, 2014
Thanks!
November 17, 2014
Forgot to add that I look forward to seeing your profile view post revision.
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November 23, 2014
Thanks for posting. I think you have valid concerns on all concerns you referenced. I can understand why you wouldn't want to do anything more to your nose. I don't think you look bad or anything, I just agree with what you are saying and I can "see" what you see. I wish you the best on fixing the lipo issues.
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November 23, 2014
Thanks so much genesis, nice of you to say!
November 29, 2014
Thanks for posting and being so candid. I did some research on Hayworth and checked some of his before and afters on his website. Wow - he must have had an off day with you. Did he personally do the procedures or one of his other staff members. Although I can see exactly what your complaints are, I do also believe that you can have them fixed over time. It just shows you no matter how experienced you think one doctor is, you've still got research and research some more. I am surprised at the results you have, although I have never gone to Dr. Hayworth but I've seen him on TV and think he is one of the more famous doctors out there, which doesn't mean anything, but sometimes we (I know I do) think that that is some kind of validation of talent. Not necessarily. Did he do it all in one day all spread out? Did you feel rushed? I wonder if some doctors who are more popular get so busy that they rush through it and do not take their time like they should. Like they've done it so many times, they think they can do with their eyes closed and so they start slacking on job and give it the due process and care and attention the patient needs. Just my thoughts. But the second picture of you nose looks A LOT better than before. Dab some neosporin on it daily and massage it daily and it will definitely continue to smooth out, even after a year. So keep it the attention it needs and it continue to reshape to the way it was. Although I do see he should not have cut off so much skin around the curve of your nose. But it does look much much better. Take care and keep us posted :-)
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November 30, 2014
Hi Nsad, At this point I take all website photos with a grain of salt. First of all, they're cherry picked to show only the ones who come out good, then there is lighting, makeup, and in the case of the less ethical surgeons, photoshop. They are an extremely incomplete and misleading part of the overall picture IMO. Being on TV only means that the surgeon has an interest in celebrity and a PR firm that he has employed to get him publicity or a reality show rather than focusing his time on practicing medicine. I will never go with a TV doc again, I'll take a serious surgeon over a preening wanna be celebrity any day. I do know that in my case Haworth is 0:4 which is about as bad as you can get. The goal of any surgery is to make a noticeable IMPROVEMENT, and in each instance he made me LOOK WORSE. This is a case of true objective failure. Furthermore, he does not take ownership for his failures, instead he goes on the offense and attacks his unhappy patients claiming "unrealistic expectations" and other such nonsense. As I stated in my review, he did all of the surgeries himself, over the course of one five hour session. I do think that he was rushed, lazy, and unfocused. When he was removing my sutures he was rushed to see another patient and ripped them out of my face, leaving a hole that scarred horribly. To me the worst kind of a surgeon is the kind that doesn't care about the results and that is my overwhelming first hand impression of Dr. Haworth. As far as my nose is concerned, he destroyed my profile, and Neosporin is utterly useless. I have since had it revised at my own expense and it does look much better but I will probably never regain the natural curve and crease of my nostrils again, nor a natural angle of the upper lip. I am out 3 years of my life, the original $30,000 paid to Haworth, plus the cost of the revisions, and still am worse off than where I started, while Haworth takes no responsibility for what he has done to me.
November 30, 2014
Seattle is not the only one who had botched results with Haworth. Recently, I saw some lip lift results shared privately on another website that has scars with similar webbing and asymmetrical results. Also two people stated that they got appointments to see him the week after they called so they said he did not seem to be busy at all. I am not surprised.
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December 1, 2014
December 21, 2014
When you have dermapen treatments for scars is there a lot of bleeding?
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December 21, 2014
I would say it's ALMOST a zero downtime procedure. You barely bleed and can wear makeup the next day. Also, all of those tiny perforations in the skin make it the perfect time to apply skin treatments as they penetrate way deeper and are much more effective. Needling combined with a Vitamin A serum is a really good combo. I bought the serum at the plastic surgeon's office when I had my second treatment.
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December 21, 2014
I like to do it on a Friday when I plan on staying in for the weekend, and then I don't put makeup on, just keep applying the serum to maximize my results, but I've also done it when I had to be somewhere the next day and I looked just fine.