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UPDATED FROM bness
7 months post
7 Months On....
So... 7 months is finally here!!!
I purpously have not written any reviews for a while, as I wanted to be patient and give my nose time to heal more. I thought 7 months is a good time to update my review.In terms of swelling and redness there has been a fair amount of improvement. However, I am very dissapointed with the overall outcome of my nose. Initially I was just unhappy with the columella, but loved the shape. It seems that I rushed into writing my review without really getting to see the true results. But I guess most people do the same. What I have experienced, is that my nose has constantly been changing. I noticed as swelling goes down, it then reveals the imperfections.The things I am unhappy with at this 7 month stage are:-The bump on bridge on my noseA dent on the tipUneven nostrilsBadly sewn overlapped collumellaIndented V starting to form on bridge (indent on one side visible)Lumps inside nostrilsStitches in nose getting infectedVisible scars at nostrilsStiches visible from nostrilsConstant runny nose 24/7Conjested noseVisible scarring from side profileNose bends to one sideOne nostril is more indented than the otherI am only 5 months away from the prime 12 month period of having the final result of rhinoplasty and I am really worried I will get even more problems as they swelling continues to go. I have been really depressed about everything so I have been keeping myself busy with the gym, since I cannot work.I will update again later down the line, but for now I have included some images as reference.Let me know your thoughts.Last updated by bness on November 26, 2016
I purpously have not written any reviews for a while, as I wanted to be patient and give my nose time to heal more. I thought 7 months is a good time to update my review.In terms of swelling and redness there has been a fair amount of improvement. However, I am very dissapointed with the overall outcome of my nose. Initially I was just unhappy with the columella, but loved the shape. It seems that I rushed into writing my review without really getting to see the true results. But I guess most people do the same. What I have experienced, is that my nose has constantly been changing. I noticed as swelling goes down, it then reveals the imperfections.The things I am unhappy with at this 7 month stage are:-The bump on bridge on my noseA dent on the tipUneven nostrilsBadly sewn overlapped collumellaIndented V starting to form on bridge (indent on one side visible)Lumps inside nostrilsStitches in nose getting infectedVisible scars at nostrilsStiches visible from nostrilsConstant runny nose 24/7Conjested noseVisible scarring from side profileNose bends to one sideOne nostril is more indented than the otherI am only 5 months away from the prime 12 month period of having the final result of rhinoplasty and I am really worried I will get even more problems as they swelling continues to go. I have been really depressed about everything so I have been keeping myself busy with the gym, since I cannot work.I will update again later down the line, but for now I have included some images as reference.Let me know your thoughts.Last updated by bness on November 26, 2016
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Replies (5)
L
November 26, 2016
Your nose looks EXACTLY like the nose Mr Tahery left me with, i also have a bump, a dark line on both sides and my columella is botched and so is my tip.. AND i keep getting an infection, among other issues. It also seems we are not alone in having issues with this surgeon.. Stay strong, you are so naturally beautiful xxxx
B
November 26, 2016
Ah really??! I guess I am not alone in this matter then. thank you for taking the time to read my update. It has been extremely hard and I still stare at my nose in the mirror everyday. But at least I know it can be fixed. I will going to a different surgeon though as too scared to risk any further problems.
B
November 26, 2016
I just realised I put 8 months instead of 7.. Oops. Anyway maybe the admin people can ammend it for me.
D
November 26, 2016
There are so many other girls coming out with the same exact problems . It either looks really nice or it's a complete botch :-( I don't get it . How is it one extreme to the other . What is this man doing In the surgery room ?
He needs to stop ruining people's lives and go back to practice before he does anymore surgeries . I don't think he's had enough training . Is he even certified or is he just an ENT. ?? It looks like he actually has great aesthetic taste in what a feminine nose should look like if he can actually get it right , but I wouldn't trust my face with him at this point . He's a huge gamble .
He needs to stop ruining people's lives and go back to practice before he does anymore surgeries . I don't think he's had enough training . Is he even certified or is he just an ENT. ?? It looks like he actually has great aesthetic taste in what a feminine nose should look like if he can actually get it right , but I wouldn't trust my face with him at this point . He's a huge gamble .
B
November 26, 2016
There are around 12 people I have seen / spoken to in a similar situation to me, but unfortunately their reviews have been removed meaning no one really gets to know about them. It does seem to be very hit and miss with results.
B
November 26, 2016
Hey Speedstar... That's great news. Lucian sounds great and I did have a consultation with him, however I don't think he's the surgeon of my choice. Good luck with your recovery. Will you be posting any pics?
9
November 26, 2016
Hi I am 8 days post op with Lucian Ion.Could I just ask nicely why he isnt the surgeon of your choice because at my first consultation I was a bit unsure but he was totaly different on second consultation.I think he is a bit shyBut he is a genius.My nose looks amazing after 8 days.Itis swollen but so much improvement as my nose had collapsed.he is so caring maybe worth another visit? x
S
November 26, 2016
I agree with that that it might be worth seeing Lucian for a second consult (it won't cost you anything) as I ended up seeing him 3 times before making up my mind. That said, you should of course go with your gut and do what feels right for you.
I'll be posting another update and pics once my nose has had more time to settle.
Take care.
I'll be posting another update and pics once my nose has had more time to settle.
Take care.
UPDATED FROM bness
5 months post
5 Months Post Op
Hello to everyone who has been following my rhinoplasty journey.
I firstly wanted to tell you all how much I have really appreciated your support through this tough time, and sorry I have not been very active on here. It is now 5 months post op and I have noticed my nose changes all the time.
I also wanted to take the opportunity to let you know that everything I have posted in my reviews has been from my true experiences. My words are 100% honest, even though the truth may not be appreciated but some. I am not a spiteful person or part of a 'witch hunt'. I am just here to be real and tell it how it is to help others realise the reality of surgery.
No matter which surgeon you choose, there is always a risk. But, when patients have to delete bad reviews to keep a surgeons reputation, that is where the issue lies because we don't see a true representation of their work or potential complications that can occur.
Because of the negative reviews appearing and disappearing in a short space of time, this is what causes rumors, suspicion and mistrust amounts everyone. I will always be here to advise in any way I can and help those going through similar situations to me.
Now onto my update....
So my nose used to be really wide and swollen once the cast came off, but it's starting to slim down now and slowly get more definition. The columella swelling has improved a lot and it isn't so red as it was before, but unfortunately it still is not aligned properly and the scar is visible from the sides.
I was offered a revision back in May, but I told Lisa I wanted to wait and see how my nose healed first. I just felt it was way too soon for me to make any decisions or risk any further problems.
I won't be doing anything until the full year has passed, because I wont see the full results until then.
The shape of my nose I loved post op, and it was only really the columella that spoilt it.
At the moment I have an indent on my left nostril and my nose bends to one side with a slight bump. I also have an indent on the tip. I read a few other people had some of these issues too so it seems quite common??
I am hoping it is just swelling..... I will give you an update further down the line.
Well I look forward to catching up with you all and seeing some of your new noses ;-)
Lots of love [RS bleep]
I firstly wanted to tell you all how much I have really appreciated your support through this tough time, and sorry I have not been very active on here. It is now 5 months post op and I have noticed my nose changes all the time.
I also wanted to take the opportunity to let you know that everything I have posted in my reviews has been from my true experiences. My words are 100% honest, even though the truth may not be appreciated but some. I am not a spiteful person or part of a 'witch hunt'. I am just here to be real and tell it how it is to help others realise the reality of surgery.
No matter which surgeon you choose, there is always a risk. But, when patients have to delete bad reviews to keep a surgeons reputation, that is where the issue lies because we don't see a true representation of their work or potential complications that can occur.
Because of the negative reviews appearing and disappearing in a short space of time, this is what causes rumors, suspicion and mistrust amounts everyone. I will always be here to advise in any way I can and help those going through similar situations to me.
Now onto my update....
So my nose used to be really wide and swollen once the cast came off, but it's starting to slim down now and slowly get more definition. The columella swelling has improved a lot and it isn't so red as it was before, but unfortunately it still is not aligned properly and the scar is visible from the sides.
I was offered a revision back in May, but I told Lisa I wanted to wait and see how my nose healed first. I just felt it was way too soon for me to make any decisions or risk any further problems.
I won't be doing anything until the full year has passed, because I wont see the full results until then.
The shape of my nose I loved post op, and it was only really the columella that spoilt it.
At the moment I have an indent on my left nostril and my nose bends to one side with a slight bump. I also have an indent on the tip. I read a few other people had some of these issues too so it seems quite common??
I am hoping it is just swelling..... I will give you an update further down the line.
Well I look forward to catching up with you all and seeing some of your new noses ;-)
Lots of love [RS bleep]
Replies (5)
D
September 3, 2016
You're so sweet and taking this rather well here on realself. I know it's hard not to verbally express your feelings in not a very nice way towards the surgeon because of what you're going through, and you've handled yourself so well . You have class my darling :-)
B
S
September 3, 2016
I've just read your articulate and informative update and agree with every word you say about patients reviews playing such a vital part in a persons decision process re. surgery.
I have been following your story since before you had surgery and was very sad to see that things have not gone fully to plan. That said, I think you are very wise to wait a full year before contemplating a second surgery I would think long and hard about whether it should be done by the same surgeon. I personally would not go back to Tahery, regardless of it being a free revision. I made the biggest mistake of my life going down the NHS route in my late teens and am now paying the price.
Fingers crossed that these other symptoms (indentation and bump) are indeed caused by swelling and will improve with time. :)
I have been following your story since before you had surgery and was very sad to see that things have not gone fully to plan. That said, I think you are very wise to wait a full year before contemplating a second surgery I would think long and hard about whether it should be done by the same surgeon. I personally would not go back to Tahery, regardless of it being a free revision. I made the biggest mistake of my life going down the NHS route in my late teens and am now paying the price.
Fingers crossed that these other symptoms (indentation and bump) are indeed caused by swelling and will improve with time. :)
P
September 3, 2016
We all believe that your words are truthful, you have no reason to tell any lies, all you have done is tell is what has happened and how you found your treatment and experience. I am so disappointed to hear your surgery did not go to plan, but there will be a surgeon out there that can put it all right. I would definitely not go back to Mr Tahery, i have noticed a lot of bad reviews appearing and being taken down and this makes me nervous about this particular surgeon. Plus, if he can't get it right in the first instance, what makes you think he will a second time, when its possibly an even more complicated revision surgery. I have seen a lot of bad revisions and they always seem to stick to the same surgeon!
You are absolutely stunning and i admire your strength, i fell apart when my surgery went wrong. Keep going! It will be fixed in the end [RS bleep]
You are absolutely stunning and i admire your strength, i fell apart when my surgery went wrong. Keep going! It will be fixed in the end [RS bleep]
S
September 3, 2016
Great decision waiting for your nose to heal. If we can take any positive, it is this. You're closer to your nose being stable for a correction, which I'm sure a doctor like Dr. Ion will take care of and get you back better than ever. Like you said, it's unfortunate there are so many fake reviews on this site, along with many honest removed reviews. I just hope RealSelf can implement a more credible review system soon. We can find solace in the fact that we are healing and we are here for each other.
B
September 4, 2016
I am not sure if any of Dr T's reviews are fake... I just think it's that the bad ones are all getting deleted which means people only get one-sided reviews. I am sure the good ones are genuine as I have contacted a few people pre surgery to ask about their experiences.
I think people post good reviews too soon without waiting to see results (which was what I initially did), and some people start their reviews but don't continue writing so we never see the final outcome.
Dr T has produced some amazing work, otherwise myself and others would not have chosen him. My only issues have been those stated in my reviews.
Alot of people love their nose one minute then hate their nose the next. So it's a constant up and down most of us face. Many of us will go from writing a bad review to then loving our nose after the changes have taken place. So none of us really know the full results until 1 year. All we can do is document our 'true' experiences up until that point.
I think people post good reviews too soon without waiting to see results (which was what I initially did), and some people start their reviews but don't continue writing so we never see the final outcome.
Dr T has produced some amazing work, otherwise myself and others would not have chosen him. My only issues have been those stated in my reviews.
Alot of people love their nose one minute then hate their nose the next. So it's a constant up and down most of us face. Many of us will go from writing a bad review to then loving our nose after the changes have taken place. So none of us really know the full results until 1 year. All we can do is document our 'true' experiences up until that point.
M
September 4, 2016
I agree Hun and I hope your nose heals as best as it possibly can before you decide what needs to be done to correct what you're not happy with. I will continue to post updates every month and I will be totally truthful in my experience. This is one thing I found frustrating too is finding patients who still continued to post after a year. I can also understand why, if all is well then there's usually nothing to report and they simply forget about this site. Lots of well wishes to you bness and I also hope you continue to review also xxxx
EG
September 4, 2016
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T
September 8, 2016
I would not go back to the same doctor. It looks like he forgot some stitches or something. I would email your pic to Dr. Grigoryants, he is the God of noses. He can fix this.
UPDATED FROM bness
3 months post
3 months post - Deformed, dented, deviated & depressed!!
Well the title says it all. I have not posted on here as needed time to mentally get over the trauma of my nose and hoped Id heal better. I couldnt have been more wrong...
As time has gone on more packing has come out and still continues to, which I am sure has been disguising some of the badly done surgery.
My nose used to be a nice shape at the early stages as you can see from pics but its now curving from the front and dramatically changing shape looking bent. My collumella remains the same and no improvements there.
Nostril area seems to be collapsing so breathing is more difficult.
I have a deep dent forming on tip of nose. It randomly came out of nowhere. I noticed some other patients have the same.
I was offered an immediate revision 5 weeks post op (arent you meant to wait 8 months to a year)
Either way, I am so glad I did not say yes. Id never allow him to touch my nose again and create more damage that is already done.
I will not be posting images on here at this time due to numerous reasons.... however if you wish to get in touch please PM me.
As time has gone on more packing has come out and still continues to, which I am sure has been disguising some of the badly done surgery.
My nose used to be a nice shape at the early stages as you can see from pics but its now curving from the front and dramatically changing shape looking bent. My collumella remains the same and no improvements there.
Nostril area seems to be collapsing so breathing is more difficult.
I have a deep dent forming on tip of nose. It randomly came out of nowhere. I noticed some other patients have the same.
I was offered an immediate revision 5 weeks post op (arent you meant to wait 8 months to a year)
Either way, I am so glad I did not say yes. Id never allow him to touch my nose again and create more damage that is already done.
I will not be posting images on here at this time due to numerous reasons.... however if you wish to get in touch please PM me.
Replies (5)
D
July 22, 2016
Oh my goodness :-( I'm so sorry to read this . Stay strong . It's smart to wait , and smart to find another surgeon . A surgeon who can not admit their mistakes are a nightmare to deal with . This surgeon obviously has no conscience . Hang in there , best wishes
P
August 1, 2016
I agree with you 100%. This is so disturbing!!! I hope you find a good surgeon to fix this.
L
July 22, 2016
I'm going to say something as a stranger viewing your befores and afters. I am only being honest and expressing what a nonbiased onlooker observes. First, the afters of your profile are of a very pretty female with a dainty feminine nose. I know the bottom of the nose, (where a stranger like me would not scrutinize or notice) upsets you, but that is just a small part compared to the big picture, how overall your nose looks so much better. You had to hear it.
W
July 22, 2016
But she just said that she is now experiencing even more issues now that more time has passed, not just the collumella scar, which honestly, is unacceptable on its own. I don't think her concerns should be dismissed just because her early pictures showed an overall, pretty result.
D
July 22, 2016
I agree wherehaveigone , the person above has got to be kidding me. The columella alone was very poorly done, and noticeable to any eye. Yes, her bridge is better than before , but now she has more problems along with the columella . The surgeon, from everything that I've read about him does not take pride or stand by his work . His comments to not only this patient, but others I've spoken with are shocking. He's tried to be very dismissive and act blind.
P
August 1, 2016
I agree! This is your face and when you pay a surgeon a certain amount of money they better be detailed and not negligent.
A
August 1, 2016
As someone who has seen up to date pictures, i can tell you her nose looks completely different now to the pictures you have seen on here. Her bridge now has a bump among other issues which i wont go into as i am not sure whether she wants me to say. Her cast off pictures look like a completely different nose. She has a right to be upset, its not what she wanted and nothing like the straight profile she had at cast off! She is a stunning girl and looks absolutely gorgeous either way, but considering you haven't seen up to date pictures to compare before and after too, your comments almost seem a little bit patronising!
C
July 22, 2016
Sorry to hear that I highly recommend my surgeon in Bay Harbor Island FL. He also does revisions. (Dr. Ary Krau)
W
July 22, 2016
Unfortunately, that's often what happens to those who seem to have good results right out of the gate.
The collumella scar was never correct but I had a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach that your result would "turn" ..because I have honestly never seen a nose look that pretty so immediately!
I was hoping you were just lucky tho!
When you say packing, what do you mean by that?
Surely theres not actual packing in your nose months post op?
Do you think that some of your result before was swelling and that it has gone down as well, which is now showing the abnormalities??
..That's what happened with me, however my primary never looked as good as your post-op. And I had a lot more swelling.
Which went down for years and years.
And my cartilage also started to twist and show irregularities more and more.
Which worries me that your nose may only continue to get worse.
I don't mean to scare you.
It's just such a shame, because your pictures from early on looked so gorgeous besides the scar. I even took screen shots of them as reference for my own revision.
Ugh, this just disgusts me that doctors can be so negligent..and the fact that he wanted to do a revision THAT soon!??? My god.
I am SO glad you turned him down. Good decision right there..life saving decision if you ask me.
If I were you, I would wait the full amount of time to get this fixed, if it continues on this way.
And I would not go back to your original surgeon either.
That is the single, most regretted mistake most of us patients make.
Spare no amount of research, time, and expense.
You deserve to have a good, lasting result. We all do.
I am wishing you the best.
The collumella scar was never correct but I had a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach that your result would "turn" ..because I have honestly never seen a nose look that pretty so immediately!
I was hoping you were just lucky tho!
When you say packing, what do you mean by that?
Surely theres not actual packing in your nose months post op?
Do you think that some of your result before was swelling and that it has gone down as well, which is now showing the abnormalities??
..That's what happened with me, however my primary never looked as good as your post-op. And I had a lot more swelling.
Which went down for years and years.
And my cartilage also started to twist and show irregularities more and more.
Which worries me that your nose may only continue to get worse.
I don't mean to scare you.
It's just such a shame, because your pictures from early on looked so gorgeous besides the scar. I even took screen shots of them as reference for my own revision.
Ugh, this just disgusts me that doctors can be so negligent..and the fact that he wanted to do a revision THAT soon!??? My god.
I am SO glad you turned him down. Good decision right there..life saving decision if you ask me.
If I were you, I would wait the full amount of time to get this fixed, if it continues on this way.
And I would not go back to your original surgeon either.
That is the single, most regretted mistake most of us patients make.
Spare no amount of research, time, and expense.
You deserve to have a good, lasting result. We all do.
I am wishing you the best.
S
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S
July 24, 2016
Wherehaveigone, sorry for the confusion, I believe I was commenting both on your review and this one and then I saw that my comment here was wiped. it was tame and supporting but Realself deleted it. I believe you saw it before it was wiped as your comment was on similar lines here. I guess it is up to the community manager as I have seen many comments not wiped along the same lines.
G
I'm 8 days post op with Lucian Ion and I can already see massive improvement to what it was. I would strongly recommend seeing him for a consultation once you're 12 months in. My 'before' nose was far more severe than your's so don't lose faith. This can be fixed, I'm sure of it.