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Atrophy a Possibility After Aggressive Rhinoplasty? - Boise, ID
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Had a rhinoplasty where my deviated septum was cut...
$5,000
had a rhinoplasty where my deviated septum was cut to remove a bend, and the cartilege was then use to soften a bump on top of nose. The hole never closed, so I have a huge hole in my septum. My face seems thinner, and circles under eyes have increased significantly. I have read on here that doctors see no correlation. I have researched and have drawn my own conclusions and am wondering how this can't possibly be a plausible explanation? If cuttting, or overaggressive rhinoplasty has occured, can't this damage blood vessels, leading to atrophy of parts of the nose and eyes that usually receive more ciculation?
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UPDATED FROM Robyn7074
Please give me advice, My plastic surgeon in Boise...
Please give me advice, My plastic surgeon in Boise Idaho, used part of my septum to cover a bump on my nose. During recovery my septum skin did not heal properly over the hole so I am left with a large, dime size oblong hole in my septum. I am so terribly depressed as people continue to tell me I look sick now and have sunken eyes and a sunken face. My wrinkles around my nose, mouth and eyes have increased 10 fold. I look 20 years older and I use to be told I was a very beautiful 40 year old. I don’t know why this is happening? Why does my face look sunken? I can’t find any correlation to this and I don’t know if there is any hope for me as I am worried he cut a nerve or something. I am also aware that repair for this is usually impossible. Help me please, any advice would help. Thank-you so much.
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February 26, 2011
Hi there Robyn,
Have you considered going to another surgeon for a second opinion? Also, I'd love it if you'd update your price from $5. Accurate prices really help others in the same area who are looking for similar procedures.
I'm really sorry you're going through this. Photos would be very helpful as what you're describing is hard to visualize.
February 26, 2011
I hope this helps others out there going through this. I have almost been suicidle since my rhinoplasty because i look so much worse. I look about 20 years older and can't find any info about this because everyone thinks this is crazy. I started thinking I must be imagining this. I had rhinoplasty and had a procedure known as septum recession. Well, there ended up being a hole in my septum afterwards. When I told my doctor I looked so much older he said that was impossible and the septum would have nothing to do with looking older. I have been a mess ever since. Welll, the other day on a total whim, I put a small sponge in the hole of my septum. I freaked!!! It was the old me!! my cheekbones were fuller, my orbital holes no longer stood out, I looked like my old self and young again!!! My point is this, we are not crazy!!!! Doctors are doing too much to the center of our noses and it is affecting all support in the middle of our faces, including the wrinkiles in the uppper lip! I am going to continue using this sponge until I can get someone to take accoutability for this and am going to fight it tooth and nail for all of us who are claimed to be "crazy and stressed" Please, fight this too! You are not crazy, there is a huge support system in our noses that is disrupted with overly aggressive surgery! I look 20 years younger with this uncomfortable sponge up there, like my old self...I cried for like 5 hours from relief of seeing the old me!!! I will update you when I find someone to take this seriously and fix my nose so I can take out this ridiculous, uncomforable sponge! keep asking....you are not crazy...more research needs to be done about this horrible side effect and doctors who care should be doing it.
June 6, 2015
UPDATED FROM Robyn7074
I hope this helps others out there going through...
I hope this helps others out there going through this. I have almost been suicidal since my rhinoplasty because i look so much worse. I have hollow eyes, saggier cheeks, and wrinkles in my upper lip. I look about 20 years older and can't find any info about this because everyone thinks this is crazy. I started thinking I must be imagining this. I had rhinoplasty and had a procedure known as septum recession. Well, there ended up being a hole in my septum afterwards. When I told my doctor I looked so much older he said that was impossible and the septum would have nothing to do with looking older. I have been a mess ever since. Welll, the other day on a total whim, I put a small sponge in the hole of my septum. I was shocked... It was the old me!! my cheekbones were fuller, my orbital holes no longer stood out, I looked like my old self and young again! I have a theory as to why this is working. My surgeon took too much from my nose and disrupted the sensitive organ that it is. The sponge seems to be warming it, also stimulating a part of the nose that should be permanantly a bit swollen. It is tha part of the nose that sneeezes when stimulated.I believe this part of the nose when disrutpted too much can die, thus leaving the sides of the nose wall dead and flat, whereas normally it is a bit swollen supporing the cheeks and eyes. We are not crazy!!!! Doctors are doing too much to the center of our noses and it is affecting all support in the middle of our faces, including the wrinkles in the uppper lip! I am going to continue using this sponge until I can get someone to take accoutability for this and am going to fight it tooth and nail for all of us who are claimed to be "crazy and stressed" Please, fight this too! You are not crazy, there is a huge support system in our noses that supports our faces and is disrupted with overly aggressive surgery! I look 20 years younger with this uncomfortable sponge up there, like my old self...I cried for about 5 hours from relief of seeing the old me!!! I will update you when I find someone to take this seriously and fix my nose so I can take out this ridiculous, uncomforable sponge! keep asking....you are not crazy...more research needs to be done about this horrible side effect and doctors who care should be doing it. I would like to find a plastic surgeon who would take pictures of my face before and after and work on developing an aporratus, such as an organic sponge lightly sprayed with silicone and surgically placed in the nose. I truly believe this is a possible solution.
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April 9, 2011
Robyn,
If you truly do feel suicidal, please go to this website where caring folks can talk to you about other options.
January 21, 2014
It is a physical problem. A suicide hotline IS NOT going to fix that. How do you feel
when you get a really bad haircut? Imagine that feeling, only a miilion time worse and that you're stuck and there is nothing you can do. And no one believes you or cares and it is making you act crazy
February 1, 2014
I'm truly sorry if anyone took my comments not as intended and to anyone who is in an immensely dark place–my heart goes out to you. But RealSelf is not the place to talk of self-harm and doing so violates the site's terms of service. Suicidal issues are much bigger problems than we are designed to address here.
June 6, 2015
well said! suicidal hot lines and counselors are BS for this kind of problem. There is nothing you can do about it. What is done is done. This is not a psychological problem….it's completely physical.
April 9, 2011
I am aware of suicidal hotlines Dr., however...thankyou for your obviously sincere and not at all sarcasic...concern. I would love to see some actual feedback to the medical concerns I had. Any research on the correlation btw. the eye bags and overly aggresive rhinoplasy?
April 10, 2011
I am wondering if ANY doctor can add a link to this post for all of us who have noticed fat disappearing, or eye bags increasing, hollow sockets? If there is nothing researched yet, please let me know that too. If it has not been researched...why? So many of us have endured this side effect.
April 10, 2011
I apologize to Angiemcc, I don't think you were being sarcastic, this is all just very awful. To post a suicidal hot line seems to not answere any questions but rather passes the buck to another profession. I really hope plastic surgeons research this correlation for all of us who trusted a doctor to make us look better, and ended up looking worse. It is all so disheartening and so many people out there have experienced this.Do we have any hope of this repairing itself? I am almost a year post op, could I still be experiencing post op. side effects? In time will my body heal itself and regain fat in the sockets of my eyes?
June 6, 2015
I have the same questions as you. Did it ever get better as time went on? I am 8 months post op, and very depressed at the look of my deflated face.
December 15, 2012
I had the same thing happen to me! After revision septo/rhinoplasty something looked different about my face as a whole. The appearance of my nose did not change all that much. I did not have a hump removal or anything like that. Now, my face looks gaunt and thin. I have not lost any weight so that is not the case. My malar cheek fat in my cheeks seem to have vanished. It is just flat looking. My eyes are also still dark underneath. I also have a dark soft spot in the bridge of my nose. I feel as though something was damaged that caused all of this..I saw another ENT and he says I have a split in my septum. I want to know how surgeons can say that malar fat loss, and hollow eyes, is not a possible complication of this type of surgery when so many people have had this same experience after this surgery. My before pictures clearly show that I had cheeks and no visible nasolabial lines that stood out. I look like I aged due to all this.
June 6, 2015
I agree with everything you just said! Wow, I thought I was crazy and imagining things…couldn't figure it out! I know I supposed to look better after all of this, not worse. It's been two years since your post, has anything changed or gotten better for you? Please share if there is anything that can be done besides "fillers". thanks!
June 6, 2015
Yes, facial and cheek exercise!! You will notice a huge improvement, almost back to normal!!
June 7, 2015
I saw your post on these types of exercises so I am going to try them. thank you so much! :)
I'm sorry you've ended up with a hole in your septum! If you'd like to post this as a question to our doctors (with a photo), they might be able to guide you. But I highly recommend that you go back to your surgeon and speak to him/her about this and/or get a second opinion.
Please let me/us know how your situation resolves!