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Revision Rhinoplasty Booked with Dr. Frankel - Beverly Hills, CA

UPDATED FROM KellyAnn8
10 days post

Surgery complete!

$20,000
I had my surgery with Dr. Frankel last week. I was very anxious leading up to the surgery and even considered cancelling the entire thing days before the surgery. I'm so happy I didn't and I'm now on the other end of it all. My surgery went well and my recovery is going extremely well. I feel so much further ahead in the healing process then I was at this stage after my primary rhinoplasty. I'm very happy I chose Dr. Frankel to perform the surgery. I will provide a more detailed review once I'm further along in my healing.

KellyAnn8's provider

Andrew S. Frankel, MD

Andrew S. Frankel, MD

Board Certified Facial Plastic Surgeon

The consult was thorough. He spent a good amount of time examining my nose, pointing out the areas of imbalance and providing a good plan/recommendation for how to improve my nose. I emailed him some questions after the surgery. All of my questions weren't answered and I had to follow up with the office on some images that he said would be sent to me which never came. I did initially have concerns over our email conversation, however, I requested a follow up call which went great and he was able to answer all my final questions then.

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Glad you're feeling optimistic about the results this far. That's a good sign.
thank-you. what I hope to have corrected seems to be corrected. but now I just have to wait and hope for it to heal well. fingers crossed it gets better from here and I'm not in for any surprises.
Hey hanginthere, why did you delete your review?
Did he use any grafts?
Yes I deleted my review for now because I'm in the middle of some issues regarding my surgery. Basically, I'm very disappointed in the results. I've decided to wait until the situation is resolved one way or the other and rewrite the review in retrospect. I think I can give a much more balanced and fair review that way.
Fair enough. Do you think you'll be seeking a revision with your doctor or another one?
Still undecided. Going to get several opinions. Can't believe I'm on my 3rd surgery. Terrified. :/
i noticed you deleted your review as well- for what its worth i think your new nose looks super and totally natural.
You'll be fine. If you need lengthening my doctor is very good at that, but you will probably need rib grafting. Do you think if make your nostrils symmetrical you will be happy? Lengthening is a lot to go through.
it's such a roller coaster ride. I still have good days and bad days. I was just looking at old pictures of myself and I really wish I never did anything in the first place. My natural nose is 100 times better than what I have, but I'm just going to live with what I have. Hope you are doing well.
What are the main issues your having in terms of aesthetics? Are you having issues with nasal asymmetry as well? I am, and it seems that many of the reviews I read on here regarding Dr. Frankel's work seem to have uneven, asymmetrical nostrils. It's so frustrating. Sounds like you're handling things in a good way. Wish you all the best. :)
there is assymetry all the way down my nose. mostly in the tip, which could be because one nostril is slightly larger naturally. my nose is an improvement from my first rhinoplasty, but my original nose was symmetrical and now it's not.
wonderful! so happy to hear it. what kind of grafts did you need?
a lot. don't have the specifics yet. I know spreader gratis were used, plus cartilage were put in my nostrils to bring down. my nose is an improvement, but it's not perfect. will have to wait for the final outcome.
Did you get your op report and surgery worksheet?
They can send you those by email and then you'll know exactly what was done to you.
nope. I haven't asked for it.
To be honest, I don't have the desire to review the post op report as I did after my primary. I am trying not to obsess over this nose and just let the healing do its job.
You'll be fine. If you need lengthening my doctor is very good at that, but you will probably need rib grafting. Do you think if make your nostrils symmetrical you will be happy? Lengthening is a lot to go through.
Just saw your review. Looks like Dr. Davis did a nice job. :) if I get lengthening it will only be the tip by about 2 mm. They can just move the alar forward along the septum, shouldn't be any need for rib. And yes, my nostrils would be fine if the Dr didn't move my columella 2 mm to the left in the last surgery. Now it's off center on my lip. I'd feel much much better if he hadn't done that and my nostrils were even.
@labrador90210. Just wanted to see how you are progressing and healing. Had Rib pain gotten better?
I was wondering how Dr Frankel's office converted the exchange rate for Canadian dollars? Did they just calculate USD multiplied by 1.3 or was there more added on? I'm also from Canada thinking of flying over there for surgery.
They didn't. They gave me a price in US dollars and I put it through on my credit card
I have to say I hate the imaging he does. You can't see the nose properly with that background and lighting. Congrats on the improvement anyway!
The images I posted here are very low resolution and cropped to only show my nose. The images he provided me were much better. I was happy with them.
UPDATED FROM KellyAnn8
21 days pre

22 days until surgery...

Hi There! My surgery date is fast approaching. I have good days and bad days about my feelings towards it. If Dr. Frankel can deliver on his morphs I will be very happy. After seeing all the great reviews on here, I am feeling optimistic. I feel like I have chosen a great surgeon, so now I just need to wait and pray for it to go well. I have received some messages from people asking for pictures, so I have attached the images that were taken from his office. If you have ANY tips on anything I can do now to help with the healing please share. Thank-you!

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Rooting for ya! Hope it goes well! You are taking action to improve something you're not happy about. You've done the research, you've put in the hours, now it's time to follow your heart and have faith it will work out for the best!
Thank-you! I've appreciated your advice so much on this journey. Any tips on what I can do to prepare?
I'm sure that you probably are much better prepared than I was. Make sure to have some saline spray, lots of Q tips, vaseline, low sodium foods, extra gauze and tape, some type of comfortable lightweight ice pack, and... I that's about all I can think of for now. I've seen that a lot of females and pre-surgery checklists that include tons of stuff! I just had the bare essentials---and not even that. I had to walk from my hotel room to Walgreens just after surgery to get some vaseline. Will you have someone with you to help take care of you?
Hi, I totally support you and your choice. I would like to have a revision done by Dr. Frankel but had not consultation yet. I need to save money as I am from Melbourne Australia and I need a lot extra for flights and accommodation. I am confident your surgery with Dr. Frankel will go well. From what I have read he is one of the top surgeons in the world. please post some photos after your surgery. It will help me confirm my decision to go with Dr. Frankel. Stay calm!
I will! thanks for your comment.

Thinking of you as your big day gets closer. I thought you might find the following information helpful: 

Revision Rhinoplasty Recovery 

https://www.realself.com/video...: <rs-video-player video='{"id":"9245","external_id":"4344286717001","uri":"video\/what-you-need-to-know-before-a-revision-nose-job"}'></rs-video-player>

Good luck! 

thank-you!
Your nose looks perfect! Thank you for your post
ORIGINAL POST

So after a failed first rhinoplasty in June 2015,...

So after a failed first rhinoplasty in June 2015, I have been spending countless hours on this site along with others, reviewing the best surgeon for my revision rhinoplasty. The decision to go forward with a secondary rhinoplasty was not taken lightly either. I'd have many days this past year of going back and forth over the procedure. I guess I've finally come to the realization that I don't want to always look at myself and see my botched nose. Or look at a picture of myself and think how much happier I was with my original nose. So, if there is a pretty good chance that my nose can be fixed, then I need to try.

I've reached out to many of Dr. Frankel's previous patients who have been wonderful and who have helped me with my decision to move forward. So, I know that I have to return the favour by writing this post and sharing my revision rhinoplasty journey with you.

The surgery is booked for the end of September, and I will be providing details on everything here. Please let me know if you have any questions.

As for how I'm feeling right now, I'm nervous, I have a ton of anxiety about the whole thing, but I am trying to stay as positive as possible about everything.

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Welcome to the community, I'm thrilled that you are here and I hope you find lots of support from the gang. Sounds like you've vested a lot time and energy into researching your upcoming revision, what's some of the most helpful advice that you found on RealSelf?

What are you having done?
revision rhinoplasty.
no I mean to fix what, like derogation of tip, build up the bridge?
my nose is asymmetrical. Too much was removed from the left tip and my nostrils are showing too much now. He is going to add spreader grafts to straighten my nose, bring down the tip slightly and bring down my nostrils.
Thank you for your review and good luck with the revision, I think dr Frankel is an excellent choice. I also had a horrible result from my surgery with dr Bartlett.
Oh my goodness! I'm so, so sorry to hear this! I've spoken with so many of his patients now that are extremely unhappy with their nose following rhinoplasty with him. I hope you will be writing a review?
Hey. Can anyone private message me his office's email address? I can't find the email address online. Thanks in advance
Hi! I've also consulted with Dr Frankel (although that was several years ago, when my nose wasn't this bad) about a revision to my original rhinoplasty (done elsewhere of course). I remember really appreciating his thoroughness in examining my nose, too, and pointing out areas of imbalance as well as how he planned to correct them (the domes in particular), places where other surgeons I'd consulted hadn't explicitly spent so much time (or noted at all). (Sadly, a few family traumas interfered - stacked like dominoes - and I didn't get a chance to go through with surgery.)(also, as I said it wasn't too awful at the time.) Since it's been so long I'm thinking of seeing him again, getting re-evaluated and then definitely booking a surgery with him. (My nose is a wreck now, though - eek! The general consensus is that my original surgeon didn't put in enough tip support and so my tip has become even more droopy and weird with the passage of time.)
So I'll definitely be following your journey, cheering you on and wishing you heaps of luck! :) Questions, if that's OK: 1) are you in the area or coming from out of town, and if the latter, what are your plans for accommodation? 2) many surgeons have mentioned spreader grafts for my nose as well (I have zero breathing difficulty btw) but I do worry that they will widen the bridge, and for me, that wouldn't be very aesthetic - I am a girl with a small face and frame. Do you have any concerns about this at all? 3) How thin/thick is your skin? Did he mention fascia?
"I guess I've finally come to the realization that I don't want to always look at myself and see my botched nose. Or look at a picture of myself and think how much happier I was with my original nose." - I can relate to this so much. Missing my old (if flawed) nose; the idea of finally snapping a selfie with a genuine smile, knowing my botched nose doesn't distract from my face! Or just waking up and looking in the bathroom mirror and not seeing the aftermath of that one stupid decision I once made, just a normal pretty nose :)
When I saw him, his assistant handed me a massive pre- and post- (aftercare) list of Dos and Don'ts, stricter than nearly any other surgeon I consulted. (No salt pre-surgery, as it can swell the nose during an operation! No dairy! etc) - even though it was labelled for rhinoplasty, at the time I'd only ever heard of this level of restrictions for facelift patients and the like. I felt like he's really invested in making sure that you do your part to make your operation and healing go well 100%, while he does his skills. (He explained how 'because he's a perfectionist' he goes over & over any cartilage grafts to make them perfectly smooth.) Oh, I have 2 more questions, if you don't mind: 4) was there a fellow/assistant doctor in the room with you at the consult? 5) could you maybe post pictures of your current nose and the proposed morphs? (You can always blur/black-box/heart emoji your eyes, identifying features etc out). I know that's a lot to ask, so I totally understand if you're hesitant. Again best wishes <3
Hi! I'm happy to answer all your questions. It seems like you have the same concerns as me. It's sad for me every time I look in the mirror and I hate the way my face looks when I smile now.
1.) I'm coming from Canada and found a place on airbnb
2.) I'm not overly concerned about this. I'm hoping they will help my breathing. It's not terrible, but if it will improve I'd be happy with that. Because my nose is going to be a little longer as he will be bringing down the tip, I'm not overly concerned if it gets a tiny bit wider - as long as it's symmetrical!
3.) Medium thickness to thin. No, he didn't mention fascia. I pray and hope there is enough nasal cartilage and he doesn't have to use my ear or rib for the surgery.
4.) No. He was in the process of hiring a new one. He will be there for the surgery.
5.) I will. I'm going to do an update soon.