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Facelift at 53, "Because I'm Worth It" (Of Course)

UPDATED FROM 0female0
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Hi everybody,
To my dismay I have had to cancel my procedure. Something came in the way. I'm pretty disappointed but have a feeling that maybe it was meant to be. I wasn't entirely convinced either that I needed the facelift yet. But I've learnt a lot along the way and am happy to have met you lovely ladies. Much strength to you all and my best wishes for a wonderful outcome! [RS bleep]

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Bert Oelbrandt, MD

Bert Oelbrandt, MD

Plastic Surgeon

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L
October 22, 2016
You have to do whats best for you, what makes you comfortable. You have your whole life ahead of you and if something is meant to be it is meant to be. I believe that in our lives the path we think we want isn't always the path that is meant to be. That doesn't mean you can't take that path later, everything happens for a reason. You have come across to me as a level headed lady and you will figure it all out when the right stepping stones are in front of you. I believe in God (not trying to preach) and when I feel lost or confused I just pray and ask for guidance and he has always been there for me. I, myself and I'm sure lots of other ladies here would hope to still find you here for moral support, if you can. Big hug
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October 22, 2016
Dear Luckylady, I'm deeply touched by the wisdom of your words. You are a very kind and gentle person. I will be here to support you. Much love x
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L
October 22, 2016
I thank you for the kind words and appreciate the support and you can private message me anytime. Take care
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October 22, 2016
My brother has been visiting from Texas so I was taking a break from realself. I popped in here because I knew you were getting closer to your surgery date. First off, I noticed all your photos had been removed. My thoughts were "Oh no what happened"? Then I caught up on your postings. After reading all the way to the end I had to back up to where you wrote "stunningly beautiful girls on here that think they need a facelift." My dear that is you. You have a timeless beauty and I do not see all the negative flaws you see in yourself. Even when you are not smiling you are beautiful. Whatever came up that made you have to cancel might be a blessing in disguise.
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October 22, 2016
What an impeccably sweet reply. Thank you so much! *blush* [RS bleep] :)
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L
October 24, 2016
I am just now seeing this comment from you - I don't seem to be able to navigate on RS very effectively! I wish the best for you!
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October 25, 2016
Thank you! [RS bleep]
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K
October 24, 2016
I can't say that I am sorry that you decided not to have surgery, because I fully understand! I am a lot like you. I have been trying to schedule for over 8 years now. Something always came up. You will work it out. XOXOX KAT PS You are beautiful!!
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October 25, 2016
Oh, that's a sweet thing to say. Well, you know, I tend to believe that events will steer us in a certain way, and it felt like this was not supposed to happen. That's what threw me off basically, especially because my friend cancelled our plans to have me stay with her. I'm still going to Belgium but will be sleeping in an empty apartment. I don't feel comfortable with that after a facelift... it's not safe. So I cancelled.
Then on the other hand, I was growing increasingly uncertain whether it was time for me yet. I really don't have many wrinkles, just the sagging. I don't know if the improvement would be good enough, you know what I mean? Like, I don't want to run all the risks, the scars, the money etc, for a minimal improvement. Then again, I knew that from the beginning... oh pff, it's difficult. Do you have the same thing?
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October 25, 2016
Just don't do what I did!! About 2 years ago I decided...oh, it's not that bad, I can live with the jowls for a while. So I went on a buying spree, Tria Age Defy Laser (500.) and Anti Age LightStim (250.) and some expensive creams. None of it works, total waste of money. If it's not going to lift an inch of skin don't buy it. LOL I agree with you, not worth it going there alone!! Perhaps you can find someone closer for your surgery?
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October 25, 2016
Yes, there are plastic surgeons here where I live at a fraction of the cost, but I have more faith in the good standards of Belgium and dr Oelbrandt. Maybe I should just have a consultation and investigate....
Thanks for the warning. I agree none of the creams and lasers yield good enough results. I'm not going to do that. Perhaps only Radiesse still... What do you think of Scuptra?
Currently I'm also debating how much weight I should lose. I'm always aiming to lose weight, but I notice that since I put a little weight on it seems to fill out my face a bit more, making the sagging a little less apparent. I love a slim waist, but in my case it always comes at the cost of my face and my butt. :p
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M
November 17, 2016
I lost 30 pounds in 3 months before surgery. I think that might have been too much too fast as I have never had a surgery recovery be so rough. I'm two weeks out but still not 100% . I get winded and weak easily. If you decide to lose, make sure you stay active and do it healthy. I hope to see you get back on track and posting YOUR review!! Good luck!
UPDATED FROM 0female0
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I never intended this video for a Realself update, but it happens to illustrate my concerns somewhat. This was taken today in the car with my cat, driving back from a winery. There are a couple moments where you can see my profile. I'm always surprised at how heavy my chin is, and that fat deposit underneath, yuck. It wasn't that bad last year!
I've also just noticed that indeed, my under-eye-area is really terribly hollow. My goodness... Crying has destroyed my face. Never mind my hair--there's no shape or cut to it but I'm happy to have some after the chemo baldness.
That perpetual smiling is also wearing me down frankly. I just want to REST MY FACE please, without looking awfully sad. I love to smile and I'm generally pretty optimistic, but when I don't smile I look like I'm on the verge of crying. I have a German friend here who told me so: "You look like you're about to cry." (?!)
I don't know how to address the sadness in my face. I'm really surprised--I hadn't noticed it at all before posting this review but now it's almost become the most important issue with my face: looking sad.
I realise none of this is really a serious problem--it's just vanity--and I do feel guilty for spending all that money on my looks--I guess I could feed an African village for a year. My father again repeated, "What are you doing to your face, you don't need this." There, boom. :(

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L
October 21, 2016
First I think your cat is adorable and you have a very nice smile. What I think and hope is going to happen to all of us is once we have healed from the surgery and face our family/friends see how great we look THEN they will notice how much better we feel and look. I know some people actually get jealous when you look younger then them especially if your 10 yrs older. LOL
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October 21, 2016
Yesterday night I've had my worst bout of worrying/fretting yet. I sent you a PM. Did you get it? I will HAVE to look better because if I don't... I don't even want to consider this possibility.
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October 21, 2016
I'm reading it now will get right back to you, I promise.
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I've been debating whether I should consider an additional lip lift instead of fat grafting to my lips. After reading around on RS and looking at Youtube videos, I think it's a risky operation, meaning that it could go either way: fantastic result or disastrous. The surgeon should have an artist's eye and be very careful in choosing his patient. (which my PS probably is, but anyway)... It appears that lip lifts are a very tricky operation, surprisingly, and I have the feeling I'm not an ideal patient for this procedure, however pretty it looks on other patients. I'm even doubting the fat grafting now. Pff, this is getting complicated.
The thing is, the more I look around here and the more I inspect my face, the more shortcomings I see. I know that I have a long narrow face, a hump on my nose, piggy eyes (lol), flat cheekbones, a long philtrum, narrow lips... well heck, so be it. I need to remind myself that I don't want perfection. (I might as well cut my head off). There will be enough change with the facelift, I don't want people to look at me and wonder what's going on with my features, you know...?
What is it that we're all so obsessed with beauty... And then I've seen some absolutely beautiful girls here, really stunningly beautiful, who think they need a facelift?! Go figure.
Anyway, I digress. What I wanted to say is: OMG, only 16 days to my operation date. Yeehaa!!

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M
October 19, 2016
Had a FL and now 6 weeks out. Still swollen but it's finally getting better. Pretty much FL straight forward and some lipo. My observation in reading the RS feedback is there is more swelling with fat grafting. I am so thankful I did not have FG to add to my swelling! I'd say don't over do it. You are a very pretty woman and you don't want to compromise some of that beauty! Wishing you the best and looking forward to seeing your photos.
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October 20, 2016
Miccoco, thanks! Very kind of you to warn me personally. I'm pretty certain I'm not taking any fat grafting and I'm hesitant about the lips too; I'm keeling over the the negative now.
Good to read that you are finally, after 6 weeks, feeling better. That's a long time to be swollen! Good to keep that in mind. I wish you all the best with your recovery!
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October 20, 2016
We are so hard on ourselves aren't we? I am doing the same thing you are - add guilt on top of that for spending the money on myself.....I have no one to share in this experience, because the few people who know about it seem almost.....I don't know the right word to use here - they just seem to not want to be happy for me, even knowing how hard I worked to go from a size 20 to a size 6. With that came gravity - loose neck, deep nasolabials, jowls, etc on my face, and bat wings on my arms and an ugly flappy (and I mean FLAPPY) apron around my whole lower trunk. I will likely go down another couple of sizes once the swelling has gone down after my abdominoplasty on 11/4 - no telling how they will feel about that. I don't think my husband understood at first, but now he is on board - he sees how much of a positive difference just what I've had done so far has made on me mentally. I've had an extremely stressful few years (sick mother who passed in January) and have also gone up and down in weight all my life. Car accident, surgeries, back issues...goes on and on. And I've been incredibly hard on my body.
Back to the face - I had my lower done, and it was not a huge difference. It is subtle and yours will be too. The only places I really noticed a difference is my jowls are all but gone, and my neck looks 20 years younger. I am going to have the fat grafts during my surgery coming up since I will have fat leftover to use in my face. I still have the nasolabial grooves and sunken in cheeks, and 2 very deep pesky lines above my upper lip which drive me NUTS. The fat transfer will take care of all that to a certain degree. I went to my PS yesterday for my pre op - and talked to him a little more about the fat grafts and told him I did not want to have my pre weight loss chubby cheeks back, and showed him a photo of me about 40 lbs ago (I have lost a total of 70) and he thought my face looked fantastic in it! Maybe it is psychological but when I look at the photo all I see is fat face (and it's my employee i.d. ugh.....) BUT, they say you will lose some of the fat by re-absorption and the fact that your face moves a lot, so now I am unsure/confused on whether I would rather have a little too much added, or not enough (which is what he asked me yesterday). At the time I ended up saying I'd rather have too much, and now I'm freaking out!
So I'm right there with you girl!!!
I'm having a hard time deciding if I want to load photos on this website - seems like plenty of people have loaded their pics here only to take them off later. But I feel the way you do about receiving so much inspiration from others on here that I also feel I should share mine to help someone else out. I most likely will after my surgery.....
I'm very excited about both of the procedures I'm having done, and it's sooooo nice to be able to come on realself and chat about it with someone who understands. You are the first person I have ever replied to because it was obvious we are feeling so similar, and our "face problems" are similar as well. But when I look at your photos all I see is a beautiful lady!
I'm sorry if this reply is all over the place - I'm just typing as I think - that can be dangerous!!
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October 20, 2016
Thank you for your reply! and don't worry, I'm glad to be talking about the same things.
I do understand and I think your upcoming operation will have a tremendously positive effect on you. You have been through A LOT. I'm sorry you lost your mum. x
As to the fat, I've had a DIEP-flap reconstruction of my right breast and several corrective surgeries afterwards. They also took some fat though liposuction to make my left breast symmetrical to the new right one, so I can tell you that a lot of fat gets reabsorbed! In my case it was about 50%, if not more. I was lucky that all these surgeries were covered by both my national health insurance (in Belgium) and by the extra private hospitalisation insurance with my employer. I paid nothing. My PS said he's never had a problem with fat grafting and I read that nowadays the techniques for preparing the fat are much advanced and don't give as many problems as in the past.
What I'm having done now of course is 100% cosmetic. I hope the difference will be subtle but absolute. Did I read you correctly, did you say the jowls are TOTALLY gone? And I also want all the fat under my chin gone. It's not much but whenever I look down (see the accidental selfie) I get this awful effect. grrr
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October 20, 2016
For the most part yes the jowls are gone! But because of lots of sun damage my skin does not have much elasticity, so my face is not as firm as I thought it would be after the lower FL. But compared to my befores my jowl area looks great now. I've made it a priority to start taking care of my skin from now on - far too late to make much difference but at least I can slow down the effects of the skin damage. Hopefully the fat grafts will perk up my face a little more. My PS mentioned yesterday that I can have a non evasive treatment done if in a year I am unhappy with right under my chin. It is not as tight as I thought it would be, but the same reason being lack of elasticity. It's not major - there is a huge difference now, I am more concerned about in the NEAR future will it relax more. Certainly down the line I will age and my neck will begin to show it again, I just don't want it to be next year! So far I am very happy with everything, and hope that I can do it justice by taking care of myself from now on.
Today I am getting my lab work done for the surgery - I have to fast so no eating or drinking. Of course I woke up far too early thinking about all of this and my appt isn't until 8am. Woke up at 4am, and miss my coffee terribly! I will be coming straight home afterwards to relax and have a big cup....
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October 20, 2016
Ooh yeah, missing my early morning coffee is terrible.
I have put a lot of pre-op photos here (and currently waiting for a video to be published) but I may also take them off in good time, when my procedure is over and done, or a year later or so. I find my pre-op photos very unattractive and embarassing, but I'm posting them to boost myself into having the FL and to help other women. I found women's before/after photos really helpful. I couldn't have done without frankly.
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L
October 20, 2016
I agree completely and am so appreciative of all the photos!! Just need to get up my nerve
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October 20, 2016
If you don't feel comfortable, don't do it; it should be totally your decision. Don't worry.
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L
October 20, 2016
I first have to say I love your nose when you see mine you'll know why. I have always been hard on myself this is my 3rd procedure with the same PS and he has done so much for my self esteem. I'm all over the map with my feelings and also going back and forth with yes do the FG then no then get filler in my upper lip. I'm obsessed with trying to be the best that I can be. I'm feeling guilty that I just payed the balance of my surgery and Friday my car just died, perfect timing. My PS told me he doesn't over fill the fat that I can always have more later then have to worry about removing some which is much harder if not impossible. I just want my jowls gone and my neck smooth like it use to be. I had upper and lower bleph approx. 20yrs ago it was seriously needed on the top but back then they removed fat under and now my eyes look sunk in. I have had lots of fillers done in the past and thought fat would be cheaper in the long run but I'm freaking that I won't look like me. I just want to look more youthful, refreshed, not done. I feel like I can't think about anything else. After reading the above post and lululovsit I actually had a small melt down...I think my estrogen or testosterone might be out of wack. Sorry for the rant I totally feel for both of you.
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October 20, 2016
Ah poor you.. (((luckylady))) hugs. I'm sorry about your car! I had a similar mishap with possibly more disastrous results: last week I lost my wallet with all my papers in it (two ID cards--I have double nationality), all my bank and VISA cards, and a lot of cash money, stupid me. THANKFULLY someone put it back on the street, empty of money of course, but at least I had my papers back! If not, I would have had to cancel my operation because I couldn't have travelled! There's no way in this country that I could have gotten my paperwork back within 2 weeks, impossible. So I was seriously scared... but I seem to have been lucky once more. Shame about the money though, but at least I made someone very happy, what I lost amounts to about half a monthly wage.
I think fat grafting nowadays is done much better than in the old days, but I don't think I'm going to get it done, there are just too many people who say 'don't do it'. An additional reason for me not to do it is the bruising. I bruise terribly. I don't want to fly home looking any worse than strictly necessary. I guess the bruising from my facelift is going to be bad enough already, I don't want to add to it.
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October 20, 2016
I'm so sorry for the money lost and especially the stress that came along with it. Thank God you found your wallet and id that would have been terrible. I'd take that as a sign that you are to get the surgery. Our PS try to stress that we should be healthy and stress free and I find I've never been so stressed in forever. How long after your surgery do you fly? I'm worried that I'm going to be in a car for approx. 4 hours on the 2nd day after surgery coming home. I hate being a passenger and I'm going to have to take anxiety meds or something. My husband is picking me up and bringing myself and my friend back on the same day. I didn't even want him to see me that soon. Unfortunately the Hotel is booked due to hockey which is very popular in Northern Ontario so I have to come home. I wish I could have stayed longer and drove myself or flew home. I might pm you when I arrive in Sudbury to ask you how to post pictures on here. I know I got one up but can't seem to post anymore. I hope you have an up day with everything that is buzzing through our brains.
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October 20, 2016
I wish I had a husband who'd pick me up :) !! But I do understand. I wouldn't worry about the drive home; it's quite comfortable in a car I think. I'm flying back on the 11th --have to get up very early in the morning blah... :( so that's 7 days after my procedure.
I'm not stressed, I'm just feeling insecure. Although.... today in the car I took another couple selfies with my cat (my cat travels with me) and I saw my chin again. UGH. Glad for that photo. It strenghtens my resolve: yes I should have a lower facelift!
(will post that photo with the cat in my car)
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L
October 21, 2016
My husband is a terrible driver, you have no idea! I'm going to have to take anxiety medication before I get in the car, I'm never usually a passenger. Hopefully by 7 days you should be able to cover any bruises, if you even have any, with makeup.
L
October 20, 2016
First of all, just want to say best of luck. Second, a couple of comments from someone who has had a number of plastic surgeries. I have a pretty good plastic surgeon right now. He only does faces and he does fellowship training. That being siad, in 2014 he did my face and did fat injections. IMHO, fat injections are worthless. All I was left with are 4 scars (like acne scars) from the canula. Again, IMHO, sculptra is the way to go if you are looking for facial volume. In terms of sagging around the mouth and nasolabial folds, I do not believe that a FL is going to fix that very much. I think your plastic surgeon will tell you that. So even after a FL, you will need fillers. Just one more thing, make sure to ask you PS where he is placing the incisions behind your ears. Make sure he is putting them up in the hair and not on your neck. I have huge scars along the back of my neck from a PS who did not place the incisions high enough in my hair line. Again, I am speaking from my personal experience after having had FLs, brow lift, bleph, mid face lift, lipo, fillers, laser, etc. Medicine is an art and not a science. Good luck. I hope all turns out well for you.
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October 20, 2016
Thanks Ikj, really appreciate your input! Well, I'm a bit surprised what you say about fillers. I've had radiesse in my nasolabials for 5 years and the last filling proved useless. The correction made my smile a bit awkward and you can see how deep the lines are; photos taken a couple months after the injection. My PS said that if fillers don't work anymore, a FL is the only option. True enough, when I put my fingers at the end of my jaw near my earlobes and pull up my skin there and in front of my ears, I get a very smooth face the way I want it. That's why I think he's right, a facelift is the only way to go. Maybe I will need more fillers, but frankly, if the jowls are gone and if the deep groove is gone, I don't mind if some lines are left as long as they aren't so deep that they cast a shadow.
My PS puts the scar inside the ear, on the tragus and right in the crease in front of it. Behind my ears it will not extend all the way into my hair because he doesn't think I need a full neck lift. Ahh, this is all theory; we'll discuss it in depth when I meet him face to face.
Dunno about Sculptra. Maybe later...
Thanks again for your advice.
L
October 20, 2016
If you type the question "Does a facelift correct nasolabial folds?" into the Real Self site, you will see that many doctors on the site state that a FL does not correct problems around the mouth. I can only speak from my experience, after having had more than one FL, the mouth area is not really helped very much by the FL. Again, all the best to you.
L
October 20, 2016
Just wanted to add one final comment...by anyone's standards, you have a beautiful face.
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October 20, 2016
Thanks, Ikj, that is a lovely compliment. x
I'm a bit upset about the news that a FL might not address my nasolabials. :(
jeez. I'll research it some more, like you say.
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October 20, 2016
I find that the reply from dr Lee to this lady's concerns is right on:
https://www.realself.com/question/36-mid-facelift-improve-long-face-and-nasolabial-folds
I had the same issues as she has when I had her age. Now it's just become worse and worse.
I'll forward this discussion to my PS and see what he thinks.
Thanks again Ikj!