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Mid-30s RN, Tear Trough Deformity - Lower Blepharoplasty with Tear Trough Implants/ Fat Redraping
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I had been considering tear trough implants for...
WORTH IT$3,800
I had been considering tear trough implants for several years, having checked out a number of surgeons online, and told by my local skin MD that he was gunning to place fillers under my eyes for the past three +/- years. I've also gone back to school, gone through a divorce, and been doing the single parent thing-- along with working full time as a pediatric nurse in critical care/ higher risk peds. Frankly, I *am* tired, but tired of looking it, too! After finding some very nice pics here at RealSelf, and doing additional legwork online, I settled on Dr. Louis Apostalakis out of Austin, TX. He's done over a thousand of these procedures, and give the results I saw, was my best bet for a very nice outcome.
I started emailing with Nancy, in Dr. Apostalakis's office, about the feasibility of traveling for surgery, as I would be specifically coming to Texas for the procedure. Nancy was sweet, patient, encouraging, and professional, and ultimately, urged me to talk to Dr. A firsthand. His consult fee is $50/ 1 hour by phone, and after some initial hesitation, I called Carolyn in Dr. A's office to discuss appointments, surgical windows, and logistics.
Carolyn and Nancy are both dolls: they will know you by name, laugh with you, and make you not feel like a ridiculous, bruised monster when you return to their office for follow-ups. I could not ask for more out of Dr. Apostalakis's support staff! Missy, his surgical assistant, is so kind and perfectly beautiful you'll hate her the moment you meet her, but can't help but love her every time she's in the room. She, too, is amazingly helpful, patient, and eager to answer your questions. I cannot say enough positive things about the office and clinical staff with this practice!
I did an initial phone consult with Dr. A in late August 2016-- for this, you fill out a medical history and intake form, and send a set of about 8 pictures so he can get a good idea regarding bone structure and what's going on with your face. We scheduled surgery for Sept. 13, 2016: I would fly into Austin on the morning of the 12th, meet with Dr. A face-to-face for an in-person consult on that same afternoon, and we scheduled my procedure for the next morning.
I flew to Austin with a girlfriend of mine, as Carolyn let me know I absolutely had to be supervised for 24 hours after surgery and anesthesia. There is no Uber or Lyft in Austin, folks, and there's no getting around needing a driver/ babysitter. At the office, Missy, the surgical assistant, met with me within about 5 minutes of check-in, led me to the back, and took another series of photos. Missy then escorted me back to the waiting room, we did wait an excessive period-- probably 30 minutes-- for my first meeting with Dr. A. Dr. Apostalakis is quirky, with a strictly business-like presentation and dry sense of humor, and it seemed to take a few tries to get him to open up and relax into casual conversation, rather than being all business through the entirety of our consult. However, when doing something like this, my belief is you'd much rather have someone so focused on the outcome, rather than being the "fun doc" the whole time, so consider his artistry and professionalism as high positives if your experience is similar. I was given two prescriptions (an anti-nausea med and pain killer) to have filled that evening, which in retrospect, would have been more handy to have sent to a local pharmacy here at home, because the Texas did not file/ recognize any of my insurance benefits there locally. Unfortunately, the cost was 100% out of pocket for those two meds. I was also given a bag of post-op items to bring back the next day, which included my antibiotic, an anti-anxiety medication, gauze, some starter eye drops, and cotton swabs. I brought two gel ice masks with me to Austin, as well as a memory foam neck pillow to keep my head propped up post-operatively.
The next morning, I arrived at Dr. A's office at 8:30 a.m., and was taken back immediately by Missy. Missy had me change into a surgical gown, pull my hair back, then wash my face with a surgical prep, and rinse my mouth with a medical-grade mouthwash. From there, I met with the surgical nurse, who was fun, kind, and personable, as well. She sat me down and began drawing blood for the platelet-rich plasma suspension used during the operation. After this, she skillfully inserted my IV, and I was instructed to take a small cup of medicine, with a cocktail of one antibiotic, one anxiety med, and three prednisone (anti-inflammatory) tablets. I walked to the operating suite, and was secured onto the table. Dr. Apostalakis came in, confirmed my identity and our procedure, and began administering sedatives through the IV-- this was the last thing I remember before waking up with an achy face!
I'm not going to lie-- the first few days are a bit of a daze. I slept more than anything else, and the pain meds I was given did little for the pain (Extra strength Tylenol worked better), and a lot for just making me drowsy and irritable. I was extremely swollen the first three pre-op days: my friend and her family had a lot of fun with renaming me "Cabbage Patch" and "Cowardly Lion" (as in, Wizard of Oz) those initial days! As far as medical oversight, you'll have an immediate post-op follow-up with Dr. A the day after surgery, and for me, with having flown in, I had one more my last day before leaving town. Our total time in Austin was a Monday of one week, through Sunday of the next.
Even when you get home, you'll probably want to still take it easy (or take off work entirely if possible) those first few days. I'm still healing, and am only two weeks post-op at this point. The swelling has only JUST gone down the last two to three days, and I'm bruised enough that makeup is a must. That being said, I'm a light-skinned caucasian gal with auburn hair and anemia, so these are also considerations for bruising. I was very careful to avoid NSAIDs (ibuprofen, naproxen) and fish oil leading up to surgery, though, and if you take aspirin, you'll need to talk to Dr. A about risks vs. benefits.
From what I can tell, it *looks like* the outcome will be subtle and nice, but I still have a bit of healing left to go. I'll post more pics as time goes on, so you guys will have a more real-time sense of how the surgery results are evolving! Hope this helps!
I started emailing with Nancy, in Dr. Apostalakis's office, about the feasibility of traveling for surgery, as I would be specifically coming to Texas for the procedure. Nancy was sweet, patient, encouraging, and professional, and ultimately, urged me to talk to Dr. A firsthand. His consult fee is $50/ 1 hour by phone, and after some initial hesitation, I called Carolyn in Dr. A's office to discuss appointments, surgical windows, and logistics.
Carolyn and Nancy are both dolls: they will know you by name, laugh with you, and make you not feel like a ridiculous, bruised monster when you return to their office for follow-ups. I could not ask for more out of Dr. Apostalakis's support staff! Missy, his surgical assistant, is so kind and perfectly beautiful you'll hate her the moment you meet her, but can't help but love her every time she's in the room. She, too, is amazingly helpful, patient, and eager to answer your questions. I cannot say enough positive things about the office and clinical staff with this practice!
I did an initial phone consult with Dr. A in late August 2016-- for this, you fill out a medical history and intake form, and send a set of about 8 pictures so he can get a good idea regarding bone structure and what's going on with your face. We scheduled surgery for Sept. 13, 2016: I would fly into Austin on the morning of the 12th, meet with Dr. A face-to-face for an in-person consult on that same afternoon, and we scheduled my procedure for the next morning.
I flew to Austin with a girlfriend of mine, as Carolyn let me know I absolutely had to be supervised for 24 hours after surgery and anesthesia. There is no Uber or Lyft in Austin, folks, and there's no getting around needing a driver/ babysitter. At the office, Missy, the surgical assistant, met with me within about 5 minutes of check-in, led me to the back, and took another series of photos. Missy then escorted me back to the waiting room, we did wait an excessive period-- probably 30 minutes-- for my first meeting with Dr. A. Dr. Apostalakis is quirky, with a strictly business-like presentation and dry sense of humor, and it seemed to take a few tries to get him to open up and relax into casual conversation, rather than being all business through the entirety of our consult. However, when doing something like this, my belief is you'd much rather have someone so focused on the outcome, rather than being the "fun doc" the whole time, so consider his artistry and professionalism as high positives if your experience is similar. I was given two prescriptions (an anti-nausea med and pain killer) to have filled that evening, which in retrospect, would have been more handy to have sent to a local pharmacy here at home, because the Texas did not file/ recognize any of my insurance benefits there locally. Unfortunately, the cost was 100% out of pocket for those two meds. I was also given a bag of post-op items to bring back the next day, which included my antibiotic, an anti-anxiety medication, gauze, some starter eye drops, and cotton swabs. I brought two gel ice masks with me to Austin, as well as a memory foam neck pillow to keep my head propped up post-operatively.
The next morning, I arrived at Dr. A's office at 8:30 a.m., and was taken back immediately by Missy. Missy had me change into a surgical gown, pull my hair back, then wash my face with a surgical prep, and rinse my mouth with a medical-grade mouthwash. From there, I met with the surgical nurse, who was fun, kind, and personable, as well. She sat me down and began drawing blood for the platelet-rich plasma suspension used during the operation. After this, she skillfully inserted my IV, and I was instructed to take a small cup of medicine, with a cocktail of one antibiotic, one anxiety med, and three prednisone (anti-inflammatory) tablets. I walked to the operating suite, and was secured onto the table. Dr. Apostalakis came in, confirmed my identity and our procedure, and began administering sedatives through the IV-- this was the last thing I remember before waking up with an achy face!
I'm not going to lie-- the first few days are a bit of a daze. I slept more than anything else, and the pain meds I was given did little for the pain (Extra strength Tylenol worked better), and a lot for just making me drowsy and irritable. I was extremely swollen the first three pre-op days: my friend and her family had a lot of fun with renaming me "Cabbage Patch" and "Cowardly Lion" (as in, Wizard of Oz) those initial days! As far as medical oversight, you'll have an immediate post-op follow-up with Dr. A the day after surgery, and for me, with having flown in, I had one more my last day before leaving town. Our total time in Austin was a Monday of one week, through Sunday of the next.
Even when you get home, you'll probably want to still take it easy (or take off work entirely if possible) those first few days. I'm still healing, and am only two weeks post-op at this point. The swelling has only JUST gone down the last two to three days, and I'm bruised enough that makeup is a must. That being said, I'm a light-skinned caucasian gal with auburn hair and anemia, so these are also considerations for bruising. I was very careful to avoid NSAIDs (ibuprofen, naproxen) and fish oil leading up to surgery, though, and if you take aspirin, you'll need to talk to Dr. A about risks vs. benefits.
From what I can tell, it *looks like* the outcome will be subtle and nice, but I still have a bit of healing left to go. I'll post more pics as time goes on, so you guys will have a more real-time sense of how the surgery results are evolving! Hope this helps!
Replies (15)
September 27, 2016
Hi and thank you for sharing...did they extract the PRP to mix with harvested fat to be injected into your tear troughs?
Can you detail if your own under eye fat pads were re-draped or more harvested fat + PRP injected into the troughs?
Thank you so much for posting!
Can you detail if your own under eye fat pads were re-draped or more harvested fat + PRP injected into the troughs?
Thank you so much for posting!

September 27, 2016
Hi Shayda,
No, Dr. A just used the platelet rich plasma rather than harvested fat. I did ask about a fat transfer, but Dr. Apostalakis was not considering that procedure given my particular tear trough structure. I didn't have a ton of fat padding/ bags in the eyes to being with-- just very empty troughs, against high cheekbones (our family is Native American on both sides, my brother and I are abt 20% in heritage). What it looks and feels like to me, at this point, is that I have higher-placed implants, with Dr. A having resituated the fat I did have to taper the implants into existing bone structure?
I'm really liking my outcome so far-- was able to cover bruising with just powder (Kat Von D, which is still a heavier-duty product) for the first time since surgery today!
No, Dr. A just used the platelet rich plasma rather than harvested fat. I did ask about a fat transfer, but Dr. Apostalakis was not considering that procedure given my particular tear trough structure. I didn't have a ton of fat padding/ bags in the eyes to being with-- just very empty troughs, against high cheekbones (our family is Native American on both sides, my brother and I are abt 20% in heritage). What it looks and feels like to me, at this point, is that I have higher-placed implants, with Dr. A having resituated the fat I did have to taper the implants into existing bone structure?
I'm really liking my outcome so far-- was able to cover bruising with just powder (Kat Von D, which is still a heavier-duty product) for the first time since surgery today!
September 28, 2016
You look great so far!! I can't wait to see what you look like when the swelling goes down!
September 29, 2016
You look beautiful! I definitely think this surgery was a good idea. Please don't get anything else now, because you are gorgeous!
UPDATED FROM BranscCS
20 days post
3 Weeks Post-Op
Hi folks!
Well, I'm at week 3... was going to wait until week 4 to post again, but thought I'd throw a picture up here after having worked a full day, with no makeup, to give a better idea of the healing process! I'm still a little puffy in the cheeks, and admittedly slightly bruised, but even though I'm dead tired right now, don't think I *look* as tired as I did pre-surgery.
Oh, if you're considering this procedure, one of the hardest aspects of recovery is the loss of feeling in the lower half of your face afterwards (entirely normal). Initially, it will be both cheeks, your nose, and the upper lip area. At this point, I've regained feeling in both lips and both cheeks, but my nose and nasolabial area (smile lines) remain numb. It seems like the nerves are healing, though, as I do have intermittent itching, tingling, and occasional sharp burning sensations in my upper cheeks where the nerve exits the bone within the operative site. I've also struggled with an intermittent foreign body sensation under my right eye this week (in the conjunctiva, or pink part under the eye), but find it well-managed with OTC allergy meds (Zyrtec for me), allergy eye drops, and the lubricating gel provided by Dr. Apostalakis's office prior to surgery. If it persists, I'll email or call Dr. A's office again.
I will say, I've sent weekly photos down to Texas for review, and the office staff and/ or Dr. Apostalakis himself have both been highly responsive, usually providing feedback within half a day of my updates. I've been very happy with their attentiveness and follow up, and do plan to wait until 4 weeks to send my next check-in... unless my right eye keeps feeling a little dry and squirrelly.
Thank you again for all your kind words and compliments-- when you don't "look like" yourself for a while, it does start to weigh on your self-confidence a bit. :0)
Well, I'm at week 3... was going to wait until week 4 to post again, but thought I'd throw a picture up here after having worked a full day, with no makeup, to give a better idea of the healing process! I'm still a little puffy in the cheeks, and admittedly slightly bruised, but even though I'm dead tired right now, don't think I *look* as tired as I did pre-surgery.
Oh, if you're considering this procedure, one of the hardest aspects of recovery is the loss of feeling in the lower half of your face afterwards (entirely normal). Initially, it will be both cheeks, your nose, and the upper lip area. At this point, I've regained feeling in both lips and both cheeks, but my nose and nasolabial area (smile lines) remain numb. It seems like the nerves are healing, though, as I do have intermittent itching, tingling, and occasional sharp burning sensations in my upper cheeks where the nerve exits the bone within the operative site. I've also struggled with an intermittent foreign body sensation under my right eye this week (in the conjunctiva, or pink part under the eye), but find it well-managed with OTC allergy meds (Zyrtec for me), allergy eye drops, and the lubricating gel provided by Dr. Apostalakis's office prior to surgery. If it persists, I'll email or call Dr. A's office again.
I will say, I've sent weekly photos down to Texas for review, and the office staff and/ or Dr. Apostalakis himself have both been highly responsive, usually providing feedback within half a day of my updates. I've been very happy with their attentiveness and follow up, and do plan to wait until 4 weeks to send my next check-in... unless my right eye keeps feeling a little dry and squirrelly.
Thank you again for all your kind words and compliments-- when you don't "look like" yourself for a while, it does start to weigh on your self-confidence a bit. :0)
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October 4, 2016
How did Dr. A place your implants, I mean through your eye lids or through your mouth? Also did he anchor them with screws?

October 5, 2016
He places them transconjunctivally, which is underneath the eyes, within the pink mucosal tissue. The implant itself is inserted subperiosteally-- which is to say, a small slit is made in the sheath surrounding the orbital (eye socket) bone, and Dr. A slides the implant into the pocket, beneath the lining of the bone.
He does NOT use screws-- I'd had an ankle reconstruction in my teens, and rejected all of the hardware, with my healed tissues pushing the plates and pins back out of my leg (yes, it was brutal, LOL!). Dr. A didn't worry about it: rather than screws, he anchors the implant to the periosteum with one to two stitches, allowing the periosteum to heal with the implant inside it. The healed surgery become a part of your own structure with this approach, with minimal use of bioactive materials that may lead to a reaction or rejection.
He does NOT use screws-- I'd had an ankle reconstruction in my teens, and rejected all of the hardware, with my healed tissues pushing the plates and pins back out of my leg (yes, it was brutal, LOL!). Dr. A didn't worry about it: rather than screws, he anchors the implant to the periosteum with one to two stitches, allowing the periosteum to heal with the implant inside it. The healed surgery become a part of your own structure with this approach, with minimal use of bioactive materials that may lead to a reaction or rejection.
October 6, 2016
BranscCS, you look great btw!. I'm just curious why you decided to opt in to this procedure vs using fillers? Have you tried fillers and decided that it's not working it out for you?
I'm asking because I've had fillers before. I'm thinking about doing it again with another doc, but was considering this implant as well.
I'm asking because I've had fillers before. I'm thinking about doing it again with another doc, but was considering this implant as well.

October 29, 2016
Hey Ranny!
My family has bad allergies, and both my parents are of some degree of Native American descent (my mom more than dad), so especially watching my mom age over the years-- with higher ethnic bone structure and deeper-set eyes, I knew it was only an issue that would progress with age. Also, looking at price tags, I could do two rounds of Juvederm for just under what once set of implants would run, so in the end-- between desiring a more permanent outcome, and looking at cost-effectiveness over time, the implants were an easy decision!
Good luck to you, whichever way you choose. :0)
My family has bad allergies, and both my parents are of some degree of Native American descent (my mom more than dad), so especially watching my mom age over the years-- with higher ethnic bone structure and deeper-set eyes, I knew it was only an issue that would progress with age. Also, looking at price tags, I could do two rounds of Juvederm for just under what once set of implants would run, so in the end-- between desiring a more permanent outcome, and looking at cost-effectiveness over time, the implants were an easy decision!
Good luck to you, whichever way you choose. :0)

October 12, 2016
You are super cute, and looks like your procedure was a fantastic success! Enjoy going without makeup while your work young!


October 15, 2016
Hi! Thanks for your review. I'm thinking about tear trouph implants.
Can't wait to see another update and your thoughts :-)
Can't wait to see another update and your thoughts :-)
UPDATED FROM BranscCS
1 month post
6 Weeks Post-operative
Hi guys,
Just wanted to drop a few more pics of my progress:
First of all, the feeling has come back to the majority of my face! You WILL go through an itchy period, and a round of uncomfortable sensations (burning, stabbing-- especially if you're smiling or laughing a lot!), but as of now, I can feel both cheeks, pretty much everything except one ~1cm spot above my top lip, and a large portion of my nose (nostrils and tip are still fairly numb).
A lot of the swelling has gone down, and black eyes subsided, but now I have bruise-like rings under my eyes. I'm a nurse and talked to a couple of folks-- my understanding is it's a fairly common side effect in lighter-skinned individuals when they use blood product for facial/ dermatological procedures. What I was told was the blood components oxidize in place, effectively causing a bruise effect that's more visible (through your skin) the lighter your skin tone is. Dr. A explained this does occur in "fairer skinned" patients sometimes, but everything I've read or heard suggests it should begin to fade at about 3-4 mths post-operation.
Lastly, the attached pics are in natural lighting, with no makeup excepting brow filler and lip base/ liner. This is where I am with things right now-- hoping for some more formal pics when things progress another few weeks along.
Hope this helps!! XOX
Just wanted to drop a few more pics of my progress:
First of all, the feeling has come back to the majority of my face! You WILL go through an itchy period, and a round of uncomfortable sensations (burning, stabbing-- especially if you're smiling or laughing a lot!), but as of now, I can feel both cheeks, pretty much everything except one ~1cm spot above my top lip, and a large portion of my nose (nostrils and tip are still fairly numb).
A lot of the swelling has gone down, and black eyes subsided, but now I have bruise-like rings under my eyes. I'm a nurse and talked to a couple of folks-- my understanding is it's a fairly common side effect in lighter-skinned individuals when they use blood product for facial/ dermatological procedures. What I was told was the blood components oxidize in place, effectively causing a bruise effect that's more visible (through your skin) the lighter your skin tone is. Dr. A explained this does occur in "fairer skinned" patients sometimes, but everything I've read or heard suggests it should begin to fade at about 3-4 mths post-operation.
Lastly, the attached pics are in natural lighting, with no makeup excepting brow filler and lip base/ liner. This is where I am with things right now-- hoping for some more formal pics when things progress another few weeks along.
Hope this helps!! XOX
Replies (5)
November 21, 2016
Your results are great! The hemosiderin staining under your eyes will take some time to go away. I flew to Austin and went to doctor A. last year (November) and had the same procedure done. My results are amazing, the only down side is after a year, I still have some remaining hemosiderin staining still under both eyes. I can cover it with concealer with no problem, but before surgery, I only would wear makeup for occasions, but due to the staining I wear concealer everyday now. I still have a slightly area of numbness in the upper left corner of my top lip as well. Everything else is back to normal as far as sensation goes. I know he mentioned that the staining can take up to a year or longer to fully resolve. My staining has gotten better, so I'm holding out hope that it will completely dissolve.
Since it's been a year, I love my implant results, I look well rested even when I only get 3 hours sleep.
Since it's been a year, I love my implant results, I look well rested even when I only get 3 hours sleep.

February 21, 2017
Are you happy with your results? Do you still have staining under the eyes?
April 22, 2018
Hi, I had this done and my cheeks are still noticeably swelled after 4 weeks, were yours like that too?

February 6, 2022
My face is still swollen after 6 weeks. It's better than before and I never had any bruise. I hope this swelling will go down more soon.
Thank you for joining us and sharing all of the details of your procedure. Â Definitely continue to post updates with pictures as you continue to heal. Â Would love to see the final results.Â