What you’re noticing under the mouth is actually a very common concern, and it usually isn’t caused by a single issue like “just collagen loss.” In this area, changes in contour tend to come from a combination of factors working together. The most common contributors include: Natural collagen and elastin remodeling with time Subtle soft tissue descent under the corners of the mouth Muscle movement patterns from the orbicularis oris and surrounding muscles Early skin laxity or textural thickening from repetitive expression Sometimes, very mild fat pad redistribution, even in younger patients So rather than a single “lump,” it’s often a structural and textural shift in how the skin drapes over the lower face. Fraxel Repair vs CO2: how they actually differ Both Fraxel Repair and CO2 laser belong to the resurfacing family, but they are not identical in depth or intensity. CO2 laser resurfacing (fractional CO2) More aggressive collagen remodeling Better for deeper texture changes, etched-in lines, and structural tightening Can improve perioral lines and subtle laxity more noticeably in fewer sessions Higher downtime, but stronger remodeling effect Fraxel Repair More controlled fractional resurfacing Typically more conservative in tightening effect Better for moderate texture refinement and early aging changes Often requires multiple sessions for noticeable structural improvement Which is better for your concern? For “lumps under the mouth” combined with perioral lines, the deciding factor is whether the issue is primarily: textural/skin quality, or true contour irregularity and laxity In many cases like this, fractional CO2 tends to be the more effective option, because it creates stronger collagen contraction and dermal remodeling in the perioral region. Fraxel Repair can help, but it is usually more subtle for this specific area. About collagen loss and “fixing without fillers” Yes, collagen decline plays a role, but what you’re seeing is not something fillers are required for—and in many patients, we can improve this without adding volume. Non-filler improvement focuses on: tightening the dermis remodeling collagen structure smoothing repetitive motion lines improving skin thickness and elasticity This is where resurfacing (especially CO2) becomes meaningful. How many treatments are typically needed? This depends on the device and intensity: Fractional CO2: often 1 treatment can give a significant improvement, sometimes followed by a lighter touch-up if needed Fraxel Repair: typically 2–4 sessions, spaced out, for gradual improvement Perioral lines and lower mouth contour changes tend to respond better to fewer, stronger treatments rather than many mild ones. Key expectation No laser will completely “erase” natural anatomical folds around the mouth, but CO2 in particular can: soften the lumps/undulations smooth perioral lines improve skin firmness and blending of contours The goal here is refinement and tightening, not flattening the face.