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Hi Everyone.. I have not had Fraxel done but I...

AnonUser25
Hi Everyone.. I have not had Fraxel done but I have had the terrible orange peel texture side effect from using Retin A that many fraxel users have experienced. I used Retin A approx. 3/4 times and my pores enlarged all over my face and I got all these weird lines on my my face look exactly like an orange peel when you looked at it in the natural light. It was horrific and horrifying. I have probably read every single thing on the internet pertaining to orange peel texture. Here is some interesting things I have discovered...

Retin A, over exfoliating, microdermabrasion, dermabrasion, rosacea, peels, and lasers can all produce orange peel texture. But why? That was my question. Why do all of these things produce the same terrible side effect. The answer, I believe, is inflammation. When you get a burn, you get inflammation. When your barrier is damaged, you get inflammation. So, whether it is a chemical burn, a laser burn, a damaged skin barrier or inflammation within the body (Rosacea) it can do the same thing: create orange peel texture.

I mean, when you look at the texture, even if it's not red, it just looks like inflamed skin, doesn't it? So once I realized that the problem was inflammation it was much easier to know how to resolve it.

I have been experiencing this for 2 and a half months now and I knew I had to go over my skin routine and see if there was anything at all that could be irritating my skin ( even just a little) which would lead to more inflammation. I looked at the ingredients again in my "extremely gentle" face wash and skin barrier cream. My skin barrier cream had nothing irritating- all gentle oils that should not bother the skin. My "extremely gentle" face wash, however, had vitamin C and lactic acid!!!!!!! OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Those are NOT gentle!! At least not for skin like ours.

So for the past five days I have changed my skin routine and have been looking at my skin in the worst possible light. I'd like to add that these are the things I have been suffering with recently..

1. #11 lines that are all weird and crinkly that appeared from NOWHERE between my brows. Wrinkles that come over night?? What the heck??!

2. Redness around the nose and even down my nasolabial folds a bit. ugh.

3. Worse nasolabial folds. Skin looked saggier there as well. So confusing!

4. More fine lines

5 Crinkly skin when I smile on either side of my mouth. Looks like severely dehydrates skin

6. Broken caps on nostril

7. Holes all over my face and lines. ( orange peel texture/enlarged pores) *worst thing of all.

Five days ago I began this routine..

In the am, put raw honey on my face for 2-5 minutes. Rinse off. Put on Montana Emu oil all over my face. Not too much. Lightly blot areas where extra residue is. On nose and between brows ( oilier areas) put cerave am. On drier places ( rest of face) put on ceractive by cellceuticals. Wait 15 minutes and put on insivible zinc sunscreen by skin ceuticals.

Night: Raw honey on face.. wash off with warm water. Emu oil all over face- do not blot extra. Rub in ceractive while face is still moist with emu oil. Cerave am on nose and between brows. ( my cerative cream is a bit heavier so I don't put in on my t-zone, just in case)

That's it. That has been my routine and I have LITERALLY watched my pores disappear before my very eyes in the past 5 days. It;s seriously miraculous. My broken caps are disappearing. My red around my nose is completely gone. My skin looks lifted and tighter. NO MORE 11 wrinkles between my brows!! OMG they were there for over 2 months!!! Skin plumping up! Fine lines disappearing. Best of all my pores are 90% GONE. I still have a bit of crinkly skin on sides of my mouth when I smile but I feel 100% confident this will all go away.

This routine will help your skin. I am sure of it. For some, it will completely fix it. What I learned: You cannot irritate your skin with exfoliation or peels or any, even slightly harsh chemicals on your face if you have orange peel texture. Do not put vitamin C on your face!!!

****If you have had orange peel texture for a year a more, do this routine but add in dermarolling ( microneedling) with a .5 needle. I read ONE doc (every other doc suggested lasers) who said that microneedling with break up the scar tissue and weird formation of collagen on the dermis that is creating orange peel texture. I think if you have had this problem long term you need to break up the tissue on the rdermis so that it can smooth out. It will not cause the problems that a laser or retin a cause because you are not burning your top layer of skin off. Dermaroll and then put on nothing but emu oil. I would dermaroll once a week with .5 ( not super agressively) and see how your skin reacts. If it's ok, up it to 2x a week.

This is the best advice I can give to anyone who is experiencing orange peel texture. My skin looks amazing now and I am SO SO SO relieved!!!!!!!

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December 14, 2013
Thanks for sharing your routine. I am going to try it for my enlarged pores.
December 15, 2013
I know you suggested the raw honey and emu oil but have you changed your other two products from what you were using three months ago on your original post? Please post photos so we can see the progress very exciting.
December 16, 2013

Just using emu, ceractive/cerave and raw honey. and zinc sunscreen- that is it! afraid to put anything else on my skin.. terrified in fact!

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December 15, 2013
Hi can you post before and after pics at all it would be so helpful, my skin is very very bad and I am not exaggerating it's lot worse than just open pores . I am adding emu oil to try and help regenerate my skin and other thing I use is Psoria gold . Do you use any make up by the way and how do you remove it gently?? I have troubles removing make up gently, as gentle products won't clean without rubbing and harsher products clean but they are too strong and dry the skin. I have used oil as cleanser but the mechanical rubbing I think is not good either no matter how gentle I be.
December 15, 2013
sk11 has 2 awesome cleansers that go on and off gently and remove make up/heavy sunscreens they have an oil cleanser that you massage on and wash off under the shower and they also have a gel cleanser that will also wash off with just water so you arent rubbing or wiping with a face washer or similar.
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December 15, 2013
Thanks Sandra I'll look them up. I use cetaphil the other one works well but isn't very gentle, and the gentle cetaphil is only good for bare skin.
December 16, 2013

Yes! I will post what my skin looks like today.. healing.. what it looked like before- using someone else's photo for reference and I will continue to post updates as it heals, so people can finally see a photo serious of healing orange peel texture. I have not seen any on the internet. It's crazy how little is known about this. I wear makeup and I believe the honey does a good job removing it. It's SO sticky, it comes right off. I put it on and let it sit for a couple minutes and I apply a little warm water and massage it into my face like I would a cleanser. It works well! Make sure the honey is raw honey, though- that's really important.

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December 16, 2013
I use raw honey but I felt it didn't get rid of it all but maybe I didn't let it sit long enough. My skin is getting acne and it's driving me up the wall it just feels the more healthier I go the worse my face gets. My acne is hormonal but I feel I need few weeks just not putting anything in my skin at all
December 16, 2013

do you apply it on dry skin first?

December 16, 2013

i know.. getting acne with these skin issues is beyond frustrating. you can't just blast zits away with harsh treatments or you will destroy the skin in the process. i used to be able to do anything to my face. this is insanity.

December 16, 2013
I use coconut oil to remove make up
December 16, 2013
Morgidox(doxycyclin hyclate capsules) best pill that works for me when i get acne, it takes in no time, i was really surprised
December 17, 2013
I have used coconut or avocado oil both are organic oil I keep in refrigerator. They are good to remove make-up. The only thing I will have to disagree with causing inflammation is Vitamin C which for me has helped with brown age/sun spots. I guess you did not have problems with that which is a bear to get to fade. You can never go out in the sun again once you have IPL or anything that causes inflammation and dark spots. Vitamin C does the opposite of inflammation internally and externally but you may have a bad reaction to it because anything is possible. I do believe what works for one person may not work for the next but I know raw honey is good and can be healing for you unless you have an allergy to bees. Just in case there is someone out there that may have a bee allergy.
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December 17, 2013
I have to wet it because it has grains on it and would tear my skin apart if I would put it on dry skin. Is that how you do it on dry skin just on top of make up , leave it and rinse or do you use cloth or anything ?
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December 17, 2013
A nothing thing is zinc suncream it's a [RS bleep] to try and get rid if it sits in my skin and holes and is impossible to remove unless I'm scrubbing hard so I don't go out at all because I can't use zinc cream anymore .
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December 17, 2013
Another thing not nothing it's meant to say
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December 17, 2013


Where would find those capsules hammy1?


December 17, 2013
only by prescription
December 19, 2013

My sunscreen almost turns to oil/water as soon as you put it on your skin. Its strange It evaporates almost. I can't describe it but I cannot imagine it getting stuck in pores.. it dissolves too quickly. If I swipe a oil blotting paper on my face after using it, you can't see it at all.

October 28, 2014
Have u done dermastamp..Cause i got open pores n exactly this texture from my first dermarstamp...I had just rolling acne scars on my cheeks n no open pores not at all.now my face exactly looks like these photos.plz post some new photos of ur healed skin.Did dermarolling has done any difference ?
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October 29, 2014
Hey Rishita2014, what is the difference between dermastamp and the dermaroller? Are they the same thing?
October 29, 2014
I can tell you that derma-pen is different than derma-rolling. Derma-pen is operated usually by battery moving it up and down. Rolling is like a rolling pin which you control the speed and depth. There are pros and cons on derma-pen. Some say it tears the due to the fact the in and out may not have the same speed as the movement across the surface of your skin. Makes sense. Derma-pen is the newest but may not be the best. The second comparison is where your derma roller may be made China, Korea or Germany? Germany is suppose to be the original and best all the rest are knock-offs and can be inferior . You will have to research but hopefully this information helps you . Imsorrynow2
April 14, 2015
I read and researched that make sure your derma roller for your face is .5mm for it to stimulate collagen. You don't need anything more really for the face at least not for the first time. Make sure it is CE approved. Make sure it have 190micro needles at least and also make sure the needles are surgical stainless steel. They should also come in a sterile pack. I'm not to sure about which country makes them. I guess I would prefer Germany over China any day. Hope this helps. P's. Do your own research. It can be tedious but youtube had some good honest viewers and forums are a good place to start too.
December 1, 2014
Hi, I read that Emu oil stimulates hair growth and honestly I'm concern about it because I'm currently having laser hair removal on my face. I'm interested in trying the Emu oil, it seems like it has overall good reviews but I think it wouldn't be smart to purposely "stimulate hair growth". Did you experience any facial hair growth? Also, I'm wondering if it would be ok to do dermarolling if I'm doing laser hair removal? Thanks in advance!
UPDATED FROM AnonUser25

It's very difficult to capture the damage using a cell phone camera..

AnonUser25
but here it is. This is in the healing phase, mind you. Do you see the tiny dots? Those are all over my face- everywhere. They used to be three times as big though. I am laying in bed with my baby and will try to get a better shot later.

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October 19, 2017
Hi there! I realise you posted this ages ago, but I'm wondering if you've managed to get your skin damage fixed up? I had the same thing happen to me and am suffering greatly for it.
March 12, 2018
Dermarolling does help in skin remodeling but it also causes inflammation during the healing process.
UPDATED FROM AnonUser25

Ok.. here it is...

AnonUser25
This is my skin in the worst possible light. This is the light that I have been inspecting it in every morning. The pores used to be three times as big.. I will post a photo that shows how I used to look. This is my healing skin but you can still see major orange peel texture. Before retin a I had poreless skin. I only used retin a for preventive reasons, ie: fine lines.

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May 13, 2024
How can I see pictures? Thanks