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“Botox Went Wrong - Pstosis (Drooping) of the Eyes / Cheeks / Mouth Are Possible Side Effects !!!”

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Spent: $4,000 in United Kingdom

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Updated 17 Aug 2011

Posted 24 Mar 2010

I went to the UK's top practice for 3 years but when it went wrong i was treated apallingly, no admission of error and left absolutely devastated with no information.i thought it was permanent ?? i had to go on the internet and then get a second practitioners opinion.

pstosis ..(drooping) the side effect no one wants to talk about. can leave you looking horrendous..like you have had a stroke or with zombie eyes (or both, lucky me !).the practitioners who inflict it send women away claming they are hysterical, perfectionists, imagining things etc.despite being shown photo's taken just days before the procedure.

allergan are completely aware of these side effects but claim they are due to bad technique/pre-existing conditions??

however if a product is designed to relax muscles why deny it's effectiveness ?

I SAY SHOUT IT FROM THE ROOFTOPS.YOU CAN GET SEVERE FACIAL DROOPING FROM BOTOX, EVEN SMALL AMOUNTS. IT CAN TAKE 6-9 MONTHS TO CORRECT ITSELF.CONSIDER THIS BEFORE YOU UNDERGO ANY PROCEDURE.

the boards of people who have been treated with botox for migraine, bell's palsy etc.. are littered with horror stories.

botox is not some friendly harmless substance, as it has been marketed / promoted. it has MASSIVE physical side effects, messes with your adrenaline / nervous system, can migrate to your brain, has been linked with pediatric fatalities and does not have a wealth of clinical research around the use of it on the face as it's being used OFF - LABEL ie. not the purpose for which it was given medical approval. we are being used as guinea pigs, no one knows what the effects of long term use are over time on facial muscles, but botox has been linked to atrophy when used continously in other areas of the body so ???

Thousands of complaints have been registered with the FDA who have issued repeated warnings,hundreds of lawsuits pending on this , .. so called 'temporary' side effects can last up to 9months for some individuals. that is 9 months of pain, frustration , depression and having to endure the stares of strangers / friends who are wondering.. what is up with that woman's face ??

Do your research .. lots of extracts from medical journals out there on the web, i'm not making this stuff up.

Botox is not without risk and you should take the procedure very very seriously. It can go very very wrong.

Updated on Mar 25, 2010:

I am in week 9 of bad pstosis (eyes/cheeks/mouth) from Botox. So I thought of starting a journal to see what does /doesn't help with the recovery based on my own experience.i also had excess hylase injected which i'm sure weakened the skin but wouldn't have caused such a HUGE drop.
a 2nd practioner confirmed it was too much botox, which had migrated into other muscles weakened my entire face.

Currently doing CACI facials (weekly), facial resistance training, sauna/steam 3 times a week for a minimum of 30 mins, eva fraser facial exercises, avocado masks (3 times a week), protein shakes / supplements and am tracking down lecthicin which may help the acetocholin (forgive the spelling) kick in the nerve impulses which botox freezes.

I am a week 9 and last night started using a heat pad direct on my face (moisturise the area first , pad wrapped in clingfilm after heating). i am doing this while i watch tv, for about 45mins in total. today for the first time i can feel the nerves in my face waking up at last !!!! (probably timing??) I am doing this across the whole areas affected and today i am get shooting / tingling impulses across my face .. all the way up to my scalp and beyond ?? some really strong, some very mild .. slight discomfort ...

I read that heat destroys the botox toxin, so maybe heating up the muscles affected can have the same effect??

if you have had success with any method please let me know !! i will do anything to get rid of my meltyface



Updated on 17 Aug 2011:
18 months later...

I am about 70% back to normal overall. Still waiting for filler to wear off, so i can get my symmetry back to normal. Corrugator muscles still very badly affected / flattened but powering through with CACI, massage and exercises.

This review is the subjective opinion of a RealSelf member and not of RealSelf, Inc.

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My Doctor: name not provided

had 1 area affected by pstosis, they 'balanced' my face and now i have 3 areas affected !!!

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butterflyinthewind 26 Mar 2010
I am curious how much botox you had for 4 grand? You are 100% correct-it comes with risk.
meltyface 26 Mar 2010
hiya butterfly .. that's the total spent over 3 years.. i nearly fell over when i sat down and did the sums !!
butterflyinthewind 26 Mar 2010
So on your last visit is when you had the problem? All of your other treatments were fine and then just whammo it all went wrong?
meltyface 26 Mar 2010
Botulinum Toxin in Clinical Dermatology By Anthony V. Benedetto extract available to view on google books pg 229..link here http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=ViacvgI6NY0C&lpg=PA229&ots=HbUw1hDyAf&dq=how%20to%20make%20botox%20wear%20off%20faster&pg=PA230#v=onepage&q=how%20to%20make%20botox%20wear%20off%20faster&f=false in clinical practise patients with BTX-A induced brow pstosis or excessive relaxation of zygotomaticus major and minor seem to recover faster if they attempt to exercise the affected muscles for 5 minutes, 5 times a day for several weeks
meltyface 26 Mar 2010
Hi butterfly, had frozen forehead / slight droop before but it was not very noticeable .. this time they went too deep..and hit major muscles left with hourglass deformity of the temples,orbical ?? muscles (both eyes) ...hit the zygotimacus on one side which gave the appearance of a stroke so they 'balanced' it on the other ... my face became elasticated, skin like crepe around the eyes..so distressing as they would not explain / admit to any errors ?? also the worst possible swelling in the morning as the lymph couldn't work (muscles pump it around the face)- NEVER AGAIN !!
tried but failed 26 Mar 2010
Hi Meltyface - you know I am already aware of your whole story and I am right in the same boat with you. You have been badly let down by the medical profession and so have I. Botox does not only last 3-6 months as claimed, particularly if you have had it more than once. Botox lasts a whole lot longer than that and if you get a bad result then being stuck with it for months and months and months and months is a DEVASTATING experience. My heart goes out to you but know that you are not alone. The effect of botox is also cumulative because the time frames given by the medical profession to market botox encourage people to have botox again when the previous lot has not completely worn off. This accounts for the often-repeated experience of good result, good result, good result, DISASTER. Further, if doctors are going to administer botox then they should have the ability to recognise a bad result and they should also have high enough ethics to admit the bad result. If these doctors can't recognise a bad botox result then they should not be administering botox. Simple. I got the same denials as you did when I sought help after my botox horror and I still can't decide if they were really so inept that they couldn't recognise it or they were lying to cover it up. Either way, is is INEXCUSABLE. Doctors' denials about bad botox results are also why lots of people who had filler and botox at the same time can be led into error that the problem is all filler-related - like you, me, Happywithme, eyeschicago, swolleneye etc etc etc, which just compounds the problem. All procedures have risks and had I been informed of them, I would have said NO to botox. I was not given proper information about the risks before any of my procedures and I signed nothing. That being said, even if you have signed a waiver or consent or release detailing all the risks, doctors still MUST perform the procedure at the appropriate standard of care. They are NEVER released from this obligation no matter what you sign. And rightly so! It was week 37 for me yesterday and the botox effect has not gone away. As you know, I got extreme cheek ptosis (full facial drop) and festoon formation under the eyes, particularly the left eye. I have approached recovery in a similar way to someone recovering from Bell's palsy or a stroke. I am also using heat and exercise and I used the Tua Viso for a while. Apparently the Tua Viso is not as effective as resistance exercises, so I have just started Carolyn's facial fitness and I am crossing my fingers that this will work... Like you, I am mindful that botox affects skin because muscles and skin are connected in the face. This is why skin after botox initially feels tight and looks shiny and then it loosens up and becomes crepey as the botox wears off. Apparently the skin tightens up again as the muscles strengthen, but I have yet to see that happen in my case. I am taking silica gel (that I suggested to you on your hyaluronidase review) and I have looked into the CACI facials but they are unavailable in the city I live in. I can't think of any other remedies to expedite your recovery, Meltyface, but I will certainly post anything else I can think of. I did not start to see improvement until week 26 and I have seen some an increase in improvement in the past few weeks (ie weeks 34-37). I was repeatedly told by doctors that the horrible result I got from botox was 'natural ageing' and they actually expected me to believe that I had aged 10 years in 4 weeks like I was a complete gullible moron. I knew it was crap so I just waited it out. And guess what? They were wrong. If it was 'natural ageing' then I have 'un-naturally un-aged' in the past couple of weeks and I have a lot of photos that clearly demonstrate the 'un-ageing' process. Medical miracle? I think not. You are not hysterical or neurotice or a perfectionist. Botox CAN make a person look older. Botox CAN make a person look like they have had a stroke. Botox gone wrong made me look like a monster. Hang in there! I will let you know how Carolyn's facial fitness works for me. Cheers, K
tried but failed 26 Mar 2010
Meltyface - I see you are at week 9. I am at week 37 and still not recovered. I hope my timeframe does not upset you. Waiting for this to go away has been truly awful and I hope you don't have to wait as long as me. I had a minimal amount of botox - 15 units total dispersed across forehead, crows feet, bunny lines and infraorbitally. It is a very small amount compared to the amounts other people have, but my botox effect was grotesque because the botox was potentiated by the tetracycline antibiotics I was taking. And the botox effect has certainly lasted a long time. Allergan & the FDA are aware of the bad interaction between certain classes of antibiotics and botox but there is no further information available about what impact (if any) the interaction has on the duration of the botox effect. As you would already know, botox works by blocking the transmission of acetylcholine from the nerves to the muscle. Even after the nerve-muscle connection is re-established, it takes more time for the muscles to build up strength, particularly in the case of cheek ptosis and facial drop. Our poor muscles are trying to pull up our facial fat back up against gravity! I too read the studies about lecithin increasing the production of the neurotransmitter acetylcholine, particularly in relation to the treatment of Alzheimer's disease. I took a lecithin supplement (soy based) for a few months but I can't say for sure if it helped or not. A diary keeping track of remedies is a very good idea! I have also kept a written and photographic record of my experience with botox. And I agree with you - NEVER AGAIN!!!! Good luck and please keep us updated, K
meltyface 27 Mar 2010
Thanks K, not just for the reply but for sharing your story.. i know this recovery is long haul but i am going to kick botox's ass for all those out there who have suffered the side effects. i had caci today (5th) session, my jaw muscle is reacting, lip, eyes, temples still dead.. but my facialist (who did loads of internet research and checked with other caci professionals to try and get the best programme) confirms my cheeks have balanced a bit and the worst temple seems to be 20% better. But for the first time I actually began to feel the current in my face and nerve impulses (esp in the zygomaticus) afterwards so there is defo something cooking. Both my friend and the staff have seen a noticable improvement since I started (not hard as frankly i looked freakish). i've been going there for years and it's a hairdressers as well.. a few botox users among the staff there and it's really made them sit back and think !! Going to stick to my regime for another week and keep checking to see if anyone has any other suggestions ?? I agree about the repeat pattern.. lovely lovely lovely HORROR.. i swear it's due to a build up. I read a study (which i can dig out) done on cats (unfortunately) that they found the botox proteins in the muscle (which also migrated to adjoining muscles) still working at 50% strength 180 days later. (the study ended there) So dishonest practitioners are getting us to go back at 25% recovery point... (3months), what a compete rip off. So working on that math, it takes a year for it to be completely out of the body (mammal's physiology is pretty similar otherwise why do we rely on animal experiments for the development of medicine in the first place let's be honest). Hence you are about 60% recovered... i am at just over 10%. but one way or another i am going to find a way to accelerate the breakdown, so that i can pass it on to other 'victims' (not self appointed - we were guilty of trusting our so called medical professionals). Have ordered Carolyn's DVD - she is soo lovely and very supportive, which (as you rightly point out)my practitioners should have been, it would have made this whole thing so much less traumatic. And thanks for your support K, i can honestly say this forum has helped me beyond measure. Melty x
meltyface 27 Mar 2010
PS morning oedema has reduced significantly since i started the sauna /steam room / home steam /heatpack regime for anyone suffering from botox related facial puffiness.
tried but failed 27 Mar 2010
Hi Melty - thanks for the info! I figured it would take about a year so I have 15 weeks left to go... Bloody hell I hope these exercises speed it up. If you could find some way to accelerate the recovery from botox then you would be an international hero. I welcome you to KICK ITS ARSE (Aussie spelling!) and let us all know how you did it. I have read a lot about botox and I have been blathering all over this site about it for 37 weeks, so I am happy to help you however I can. Let me know if you need anything. And I completely agree with you that every 3-6 months for botox is a scam. Doctors encourage it and people feel that they 'need' more botox around this time frame because it is when the ugly 'loose skin' phase kicks in and the wrinkles start to appear again. But what they don't understand (and doctors won't tell them) is that heaps of the botox effect is still there and the muscles are still weakened. Hang in there, Meltyface and I look forward to hearing from you. Cheers, K
tried but failed 27 Mar 2010
Meltyface - quick question for you about the Voluma. Why did you have it done? Was it for flat cheeks? I got medium level cheek ptosis/face drop/puffiness under the eyes from botox in April 09. I had no idea that botox could do that and thanks to misdiagnosis by the doctors in failing to recognise (or deliberately denying) my bad botox result, I was led to believe that my lower eyelid puffiness was filler-related and I had it dissolved. The additional botox in July 09 to 'disguise' the hyaluronidase swelling gave me extreme cheek ptosis/face drop/festoon formation under the eyes, partly because of the antibiotics and partly because I had only had botox 3-4 months earlier. I ask you about the Voluma you had because I think maybe you had a lesser degree of cheek ptosis BEFORE your last round of botox. Could that be correct? Between my medium-bad result in April 09 and the extremely bad result in July 09, doctors repeatedly suggested to me that I get dermal filler to 'build up my cheeks'. This is how I guessed that your 'pillow face' had been caused by Voluma. It was one of the products that was suggested to me. I am just wondering if a similar thing happened to you? I now understand that these suggestions to 'build up my cheeks' were to camouflage the botox error and I am very grateful that I said no. On a positive note, you will be amazed when your face starts to 'come back up'. I knew my face looked distorted and bizarre but I had no idea how bad it really was until it started to change back. I could literally feel the lower part of the eye muscle and the cheek muscle that had been flattened like a pancake over my cheek bone start to plump back up. It happened at around week 26. At this time, I also could see that the shadows on my face under overhead lights were starting to look like me again (ie rounded cheek bones and hollows under the cheek bones) as the true planes of my face began to return. Previously it had been dead flat down the sides of my face when it was at rest and gargoyle face when I smiled or laughed. I still have the smile/laugh problem but it has somewhat improved. I literally sat down on the ground and cried when I first saw the shadows of my cheek bones. I knew I still had a long way to go but I felt some hope for the first time. I have kept track of my progress and I think that in another 3-4 months it will be the final result. That's a full year after the botox, so I think your estimate as to the longevity of botox is absolutely correct, Meltyface. I certainly have new lines because of the bunching of loose skin and, as to permanent residual damage, I can only wait and see... People (and doctors) need to realise that there are AESTHETIC LIMITS TO BOTOX, particularly after repeated applications. I often wonder if this is why celebrities end up looking so weird. They go too far with botox so they try to camouflage it with filler and it just ends up getting worse and worse. I can kind of understand it though as they are in the public eye all the time and don't have 12 months to sit at home hiding while it wears off. Or is this when they pretend to go to rehab??! Kylie Minogue has 'pillow face' from too much dermal filler and Demi Moore showed a clear example of cheek ptosis last October. For anyone wondering what I have been banging on about for 9 months on this website and wants to know what cheek ptosis/face drop looks like, then google the exact phrase: Demi Moore time catches up (no quotation marks) and it is the first hit - a story and photos on the nydailynews website. The photo on the right is from Aug 09 and the photo on the left (with cheek ptosis) is from Oct 09. The story reports it as signs of age which is nonsensical given the space of time between the two photos. (My doctors also told me it was 'natural ageing' or weight loss - neither of which was plausible.) In my opinion, the photos of Ms Moore show botox-induced cheek ptosis. I have exactly the same look when I smile widely like that. I am sure that filler in the cheeks could help to disguise it, but I want my real face back. I would really like to try those CACI facials, Meltyface as they sound really helpful but I would have to fly to Melbourne 5 times a week to do it and that is just not practical! Wishing you the best, K
tried but failed 27 Mar 2010
Ooops... Melbourne ONCE a week! And good for you that you have spoken openly about it with other people. I have felt very, very alone mainly because I am so embarrassed about it. Maybe this is because there is not a big botox culture in Australia. I would have gone mental without RealSelf and all the people writing here...
meltyface 28 Mar 2010
hi k like you i have been almost hurled into the abyss and left devastated by the experience..what about a slendertone facial exerciser or similar ? the voluma distorted my face but the actual amounts used were very minor and have begun to settle very well. i'd had filler on my cheeks before so it could have disguised a small degree of pstosis but my eyes would have given it away ?? my eyes were fantastic before, tho i was concerned about 'bunny lines' on the inner corners - still they were great .. what was i worried about ? now i have the herniated fat pads and sagging . today i noticed my right eye has elevated in the external corner a little, the tension in my skin on the temples is a tiny bit better and area around my mouth is showing definite signs of improvement (albeit small). i'd swear it's the heatpacks / muscle stimulation / facial exercises . god .. imagine if i'd cracked it ?? that would be amazing .
meltyface 28 Mar 2010
great balls of fire.. maybe i have cracked it ?? i read somewhere that the brain when it finds nerve stimulation is blocked by the botox protein, opens up new channels ? could heat accelerate this activity ?? this study seems to back up that assertion ? Effect of heat stress on muscle sympathetic nerve activity in humans References and further reading may be available for this article. To view references and further reading you must purchase this article. Yuki Niimia, b, Toshiyoshi Matsukawaa, Yoshiki Sugiyamaa, A. S. M. Shamsuzzamana, Hiroki Itoa, b, Gen Sobueb and Tadaaki Manoa, * a Department of Autonomic Neuroscience, Division of Higher Nervous Control, Research Institute of Environmental Medicine, Nagoya University, Nagoya 464-01, Japan b Department of Neurology, Nagoya University School of Medicine, Nagoya 466, Japan Received 17 September 1996; revised 15 November 1996; accepted 15 November 1996. Available online 22 July 1997. Abstract To elucidate the effect of heat stress on the sympathetic nervous system, we evaluated changes in muscle sympathetic nerve activity (MSNA), plasma arginine vasopressin (AVP), tympanic temperature, skin blood flow, cardiac output, mean blood pressure, and heart rate in 9 subjects in response to acute heat stress induced by raising the ambient temperature from 29 to 34°C and then to 40°C. With the heat exposure, MSNA was significantly increased with a significant increase in tympanic temperature. Skin blood flow and heart rate were also significantly increased, while mean blood pressure tended to decline and cardiac output tended to increase. The combination of the increased MSNA and skin blood flow may have caused the redistribution of the circulatory blood volume from the muscles to the skin, facilitating convection heat loss. The increases in MSNA counteracted the lowered blood pressure during heat exposure. Thus, the increased MSNA may play an important role both in thermoregulation and in the maintenance of blood pressure against heat stress. Author Keywords: Heat stress; Muscle sympathetic nerve activity; Skin blood flow; Thermoregulation; Blood pressure Index Terms: heat stress; nerve conduction; adrenergic system Article Outline 1. Introduction 2. Subjects and methods 2.1. Subjects 2.2. Procedure 2.3. Recording and quantitative analysis of MSNA 2.4. Analysis of tympanic temperature, mean blood pressure, heart rate, skin blood flow and cardiac output 2.5. Determination of plasma levels of noradrenaline and arginine vasopressin, and plasma osmolality 2.6. Protocol (Fig. 1) 2.7. Statistics 3. Results 4. Discussion Acknowledgements References Fig. 1. Protocol of studies. View Within Article -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fig. 2. Changes in tympanic temperature during acute heat exposure from 29 to 34°C and 40°C. The tympanic temperature: period I, 36.94±0.08°C; period II, 37.00±0.09°C; period III, 37.13±0.09, and period I?, 36.81±0.04°C; period II?, 36.74±0.04°C; period III?, 36.78±0.03°C. *P<0.05 versus control group (period I versus I?, period II versus II?,or period III versus III?). View Within Article -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fig. 3. Changes in MSNA during acute heat exposure from 29 to 34°C and 40°C. MSNA: period I, 4576±978 units s min?1; period II, 6704±1542 units s min?1; period III, 7664±1502 units s min?1, and period I?, 3305±963 units s min?1; period II?, 3822±1646 units s min?1; period III?, 3564±1458 units s min?1. *P<0.05 versus control group (period I versus I?,period II versus II?, or period III versus III?). View Within Article -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fig. 4. Changes in skin blood flow and heart rate during acute heat exposure from 29 to 34°C and 40°C. Skin blood flow: period I, 2.57±0.37 ml min?1 100 g?1; period II, 3.48±0.58 ml min?1 100 g?1; period III, 6.76±1.28 ml min?1 100 g?1, and period I?, 3.80±0.57 ml min?1 100 g?1; period II?, 3.68±0.55 ml min ?1 100 g?1; period III?, 3.65±0.60 ml min?1 100 g?1. Heart rate: period I 65.6±2.7 beats min?1; period II, 65.6±3.1 beats min?1; period III, 69.4±3.6 beats min?1, and period I?, 63.6±3.3 beats min?1; period II?, 67.8±3.1 beats min-1; period III?, 68.3±3.4 beats min?1. *P<0.05 versus control group (period I versus I?, period II versus II?, or period III versus III?). View Within Article -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fig. 5. Changes in cardiac output and mean blood pressure during acute heat exposure from 29 to 34°C and 40°C. Cardiac output: period I, 4.99±0.59 l min?1; period II, 5.33±0.67 l min?1; period III, 5.45±0.66 l min?1, and period I?, 5.30±0.39 l min?1; period II?, 5.34±0.41 l min?1; period III?, 5.34±0.42 ml min?1 100 g?1. Mean blood pressure: period I, 91.8±4.9 mmHg; period II, 87.3 ±4.6 mmHg; period III, 86.5±5.3 mmHg, and period I?, 95.4±5.8 mmHg; period II?, 95.9±4.2 mmHg; period III?, 96.0±4.2 mmHg. *P<0.05 versus control group (period I versus I?, period II versus II?, or period III versus III?). View Within Article -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Table 1. Changes of plasma noradrenaline, arginine vasopressin and plasma osmolality at period I, period II and period III View Within Article -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Journal of the Autonomic Nervous System Volume 63, Issue 1-2, 19 March 1997, Pages 61-67
tried but failed 28 Mar 2010
Hi Melty - you are right that the previous cheek filler could have camouflaged existing cheek ptosis before your ultimate botox disaster. And the herniation of the fat pads in the lower lids only seems to happen when the cheek ptosis and face drop is really bad - however, increased bunny lines on the inner corners of the eyes and lines down the side of the nose are definite signs of cheek ptosis, so I am guessing that you might have had it to a lesser degree before this final blow. Same story here. I am glad you are seeing improvement already! I had the shiny, frozen, 'glass' botox face and the zombie eyes for five months or more!! Do you have any increase in the severity of your nasolabial folds or increased appearance of jowls from the face drop? I do. Eyeschicago has the increased jowls but she can't see whether her nasolabial folds are deeper because she has them filled. I will not do any more filling or camouflaging until I can see what my face really looks like (ie back to base). It can't come soon enough for me. Carolyn's facial fitness seems to be working, but it is early days and very difficult to tell...
tried but failed 28 Mar 2010
M - That sounds worth looking into further! Do you think it means heat stress from exercise or just heat stress in general? We have just finished a very hot Australian summer here, so I got quite a bit of heat stress in the past couple of months... K
uncool 29 Mar 2010
Hi Meltyface, so sorry that you are going through this awful Botox disaster. My face also appeared to be melting away after I had the injections and everything went South including the corners of my lips...it was horrendous -had cheek pstosis, under eye bunching,zomby looking eyes and a face that resembled a deranged Cruela Deville. I tried everything under the sun to speed up the Botox time frame including infrared saunas, tapping techniques, strenuous exercises, accupuncture,Bioptron light, Gingko Biloba etc, etc and nothing seemed to help except for time and Carolyn's facial muscle exercises. I have been doing them for three months now and I can honestly say that it has been my saving grace. My whole face has lifted again and my cheeks, mouth and jowls have returned to normal. My face is firm and the loose skin is gone. I still have some faint under eye wrinkles (caused by Botox)and slight drooping of the upper eyelids, but they are improving all the time and I think that these areas may take a little longer to recover. I'm so pleased that you have ordered the kit, you won't regret it. Make sure that you do the exercises regularly and you will soon see huge improvements. You may only be able to the exercises effectively when the Botox starts wearing off, but I do believe that Botox can damage and weaken the muscles to such an extent that they may never recover if they are not worked and rehabilitated, ie. without the exercises your muscles may atrophy or remain permanently weakened because muscle fibre and elastin is lost when a muscle is not active for a long period of time and cannot be built up again without effecting mucle RESISTANCE training. I wish you all the best and hope that you have a speedy recovery. Good luck and take care. xx
meltyface 30 Mar 2010
Thanks for your support. Yup got the homer simpson mouth (deep naso-labial folds although filled) and downturned corners. they botoxed my smile as it looked odd (due to facial assymetry after pstois) and now it looks like i have two troughs each side.they also used some hylase there which exaggerates the effect. i'm going to dig out my old slendertone belt (waist) and strap it to my face (low voltage) and see if that makes a difference ? i can definitely feel things waking up though and i attribute that to the resistance / heat .. if i'd had any hint this was a possibilty i would never had used botox in the first place. talk about hidden risk ?? why is there not more stuff out there on the internet ?? do people just hide under the bed ?? i had to tell everyone at work that i'd had an facial injury which was being adjusted - but as they didn't know what i looked like before it drew less speculation. have been avoiding people for months tho...
uncool 1 Apr 2010
Know just how you feeling...I've been going through the same thing for the last six months. It really sucks and makes me so angry that Botox is still considered "harmless" by the medical fraternity. I was watching a programme called Doctors on TV the other day and they were discussing Botox as if it was some type of vitamin injection. They stated that it is completely safe with no negative side effects and that it is a miracle cure for wrinkles...what a joke!!! It is total propoganda...
tried but failed 1 Apr 2010
I have to turn the television off when I see stuff like that, knowing what that "harmless" product called botox did to me and to my life.
dawn rosa 16 Mar 2012

I am so sorry to hear of the despair you've been through ,this has made my decision regarding having botox simple.I wont!
Are you aware of any negative effects of restylane?This is also considered harmless!

butterflyinthewind 31 Mar 2010
Hi Meltyface-not sure why you would not let everyone at work know what really happened. You want to "scream it from the rooftops" but you lie to people who ask? If something like that happend to me I would want to warn others-it could save someone the pain you are going through right now. Maybe this is why these side affects are not reported as often as they should be-people just say they had a stroke of facial injury-hmmmm-as others line up for Botox not realizing that things can go terribly wrong.
meltyface 31 Mar 2010
well..severe muscle disempairment is an injury.. ?? i don't inject the stuff myself ?? i don't want to be the poster child for psostis ( i dearly wish i wasn't) but am happy to share my experiences with people on this site who are seeking the information. the more people post the more informed everyone can be about their choices,through search engines I think that is the motivation for most people who visit.
butterflyinthewind 31 Mar 2010
You assumed the risk-that is not my point. You come on here and scream about it and you have every right to be mad and upset. You ask why there are not more reports about things going wrong-its because of people like you that lie about what is going on with your face. You ask if people hide under the bed-like yourself-I have not had the problem but I am scared now and I would hope that another woman would reach and and be honest about what has happened instead of lying and saying she was injured. Again I say it loud and clear-if I had your situation I would not lie to my fellow people I would tell them "HEY I HAD BOTOX FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED TO MY FACE:.
uncool 1 Apr 2010
Butterflyinthewind, I definitely do not want the whole world to know that I had Botox. Most people have cosmetic procedures to help them look attractive and "fresh" and we do not want to reveal our "secrets" to everyone, or do not want to appear to be vain and self obsessed. We are too embarrassed to admit that we had Botox because there is still a negative stigma attached to people who spend their money, time and energy on cosmetic procedures. We trust our doctors and medical experts/professionals to correctly inform us of the risks involved and we trust the FDA and government to only approve safe, effective, tried and tested products. Sadly, our best interests are not always taken into account and financial gain and greed become the main priorities. When our faces and health are ruined, we sit at home hiding from society, too ashamed to admit that we had Botox in fear of being judged and ridiculed for "not being happy with what God gave us" and for "getting what we deserved". We try to avoid comments such as "it serves you right for being so vain" etc. We report our cases to our doctors, other medical experts and the FDA, but it "falls on deaf ears". We become self conscious about our faces and live in fear that our new disfigurement (from Botox) will never recover. We are too shy to go out and be seen because we do not feel attractive and are emabarressed that we have aged overnight (due to Botox) and that our features have distorted and we now look ugly. We isolate ourselves because we feel depressed and angry about what has happened to our faces and we yearn for it to be reversed. We vent and "scream" on this forum because we are able to speak to other people who know and understand what torment we are experiencing because they are going through the same journey. Please DO NOT accuse us for being the reason why Botox is ruining so many people's faces. We are the victims who should have been informed by our medical doctors (who took a hippocratic oath) of all the risks and dangers associated with Botox BEFORE we had the injections.

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