Just Had It Done, So No Comments on End Result, Just Comments on What to Expect - Solana Beach, CA

I think it depends on location, practitioner, qualifications etc. I have not had anymore done and don't intend to. I have had a lot of people post to me that they have had negative results. I am using VOLUMA instead.

hey embeau -- you always look radiant to me and I would love to look like you instead of me! Now....I am thinking of doing voluma but I HATE how pillowy so many celebs start to look since I truly believe even the best surgeons cannot fully know how something will turn out. These fillers have been around for a while, but they have not been followed or studied over years, or have they? What if, for example, you have stuff put in your cheekbones. Then you live life talking, chewing, smiling, etc. and the stuff shifts, gradually as the face and underlying tissue does, with age? Then if you tend to gain weight say around your sinuses, or in your jowls, you have extra fat that shouldn't be there and looks "wrong" as it did with Madonna or Courtney Love. I have noticed the BIGGEST issue on all the "pillow faces" is that too much fat, filler, etc. remains or ends up around the nose, beneath the eyes, not necessarily the eye hollows. Has anyone noticed how this does NOT look good? Like, there is extra fat around the nose but it doesn't stay around the temples and jaw, which makes for a non-natural look, overfilled in one area and underfilled in the areas it's most needed. I wonder if it's because the jaw is a very muscular area, something I learned in nursing school, so filler can be shifted or metabolizes quickly in that area, while of course around the nose is far less muscular so it won't go as quickly. I am looking into this but I would HATE to look unnatural and would rather just be saggy and natural if those are my only two choices. I want something long-term, but not if it won't look like I was born with it. ANY suggestions, from anyone?

You are definitely on to something. I have had Sculptra and it is dissolving in such an odd way as you have described. I would rather have been saggy and natural. I would only suggest doing HA type fillers as these are safe to the body and can be dissolved if results are not appreciated

I agree that puffy look is unattractive (marie osmond for example) but I am attributing that to full face fat transfers. Obviously any filler can look overdone, but when someone does the fat transfer, Dr's put in way more initially too account for the natural loss of fat after the transplant. My goal has not been to look twenty, it has been to not look haggard. My face thinned out so rapidly and all I would hear is "you look so tired"..No, I am not tired, I am OLD...LOL..

That was exactly how it happened for me. We are the same age, by the way. Only Sculptra worked out for you, definitely did not work for me. I try to warn people because it is a gamble. If I knew it was a gamble, I would have chosen something much safer.

I am just curious as to why sooo very many people with even the right doctors (which I can only assume Madonna would have researched as carefully as she planned her every career move) seem to end up with an overly puffy face -- I mean, of course, lumps and weird stuff would be way worse, but still! -- and again, I am referring to the famous people we have seen who probably have done various fillers like all of us, over the years. I cannot comment about fat transfer but I have seen friends who have NEVER done fat transfer, only fillers, and YES! It did end up staying in certain areas for insanely long, namely alongside the nose, while it disappeared always from the strong jaw areas (temple to chin) far faster. So then they are continually playing a horrible game of catch-up, having to keep filling the temple to "match" the other areas. Filler can only look right if the whole face matches up. When I see older eyes and jawline with youthful botoxed forehead or one area filled to look healthy or younger but not the other areas that "should" be, that seems to be why it doesn't look natural. That's my big concern here. If I ever were to do fat transfer I would probably only get my temples done, I have already decided. It stays way too heartily alongside the nose, although I suppose I would have to figure out what in the world to do to match the forehead. Does anyone get what I am worried about here? I mean, how to make it look natural and real (which btw Embeau yours looks GREAT) and what to do when it doesn't? ARgh. I think it's all too much of a gamble at this point. Fat transfer goes badly, ulthera doesn't really work well enough, and fillers are unpredictable. In the end I guess I would go with the temporary stuff which is cheaper at first but the most costly possible long-term since you have to keep going in forever. Yikes.

what was the court order for? Who qualifies to be recruits? I wanna know about this stuff! Amazing that none of us get to be privy to this info PRIOR to treatment. That is sick. Just sick.

Hi searching4 (that photo does an exceptional job due to lighting!) it was mostly to show the fill in the cheek area compared to beginning photo. I had 2 vials spaced three months apart (october and early January). Have your results improved?

No, because even though a teeny bit of volume went down, the product is going down unevenly. Also, my ps injected terribly, he was trying to create high cheek bones rather than follow my natural contours. And just as bad, I have daily swelling and redness that goes off and on. Sculptra ruined me.

Out of interest - how long did it take for you to start seeing the results?

6 months is when I began to see results....I have not had any reactions-I feel for everyone that has though..no one wants a bad outcome..

I'm really happy for you! I'm hoping maybe I'm just an early developer and it will settle down. Would love to hear from anyone else as to how long it took them to see results.

I saw results around 4 months but around 8 months the swelling and burning began and so did more growth

Wow, thanks for that invaluable info!!

thank you- I will post new photo soon...