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Updated 13 Aug 2008
Posted 8 Jun 2008
Not Worth It
Spent: $4,300 in Batavia, New York

This review is for anyone considering Smartlipo.  I'm not anti-smartlipo, but this procedure is significantly misrepresented by Cynosure, the maker of the smartlipo machine and publisher of the brochures, along with many doctors who should NOT be anywhere near this device.  I'm one of the unlucky ones who got a quack in Batavia, New York that thinks he's an expert since he took the EIGHT HOUR COURSE that Cynosure gives and sends ANY DOCTOR, NOT MATTER WHAT THEIR FIELD, out to alter someone's body. 

I'm also one of the lucky ones who lives near a doctor who's considered one of the best smartlipo surgeons in the east.  Yes, I SHOULD have gone to him first, but he's already fixed three others from the quack I went to and has assured me that I can be "fixed".  I'll have to go one more summer without feeling good about my legs, but I won't have to worry about it for next year.  I won't bore you with the details of my procedure, but below is a list of things that you might want to know before you go out to talk to a doctor about having this done.   I'm going to speak to having legs done.

1.  Smartlipo is NOT a lunchtime procedure.  It is liposuction surgery with a laser.  A good surgeon will tell you that.  It is the next wave of liposuction and is quickly taking the place of the old method.  The laser does help in tightening the skin and the tumescent (wet) procedure reduces bruising, pain and swelling WHEN IT'S DONE PROPERLY.  You should have the maximum fluid used for your body weight and should not have more than 2-3 areas done at once.  Example:  inner thighs, anterior thighs and knees in one procedure, then outer thighs and abdomen or gluteal crease in the next procedure.  These should be done about 7 days to 1 month apart.   This is a health precaution as well as a results precaution.

2.  You will be home laying around the house for about three days and draining for about 24-72 hours and have to wear a compression garment for 2-6 weeks, depending on what you have done, for the best results.   Some people don't wear the garment, but I found it sped up the healing process, which is making it easier for me to get my corrective surgery done sooner.  You're going to be sore for about three months, gradually getting better the whole time, but still sore.  you'll have lumps and bumps in your legs for that long, too, again, gradually getting better.  You'll need to massage those areas and seriously look into Lymphatic Drainage Massage.  IT WORKS WONDERS.

3.  THE DOCTOR.  This is probably the most important advice I have for you.  Do not, do not, do not, go to a doctor that does not do this as his only line of business.  Do not use a pediatrician, a general doctor, an ear, nose and throat doctor - get my point??  Do not use any doctor that has added this to his practice and sandwiches your smartlipo inbetween allergy shots and annual physicals.  The only training required by law to do this is the EIGHT HOUR course that Cynosure gives after the doctor purchases the machine.  OH, I forgot, they offer two more eight hour courses for ADVANCED training.  Think about it - 24 hours of training lets any MD start to reshape your body with absolutely no previous cosmetic experience.  Don't do it.  Run away.  Fast.

4.  Do your research and make the commitment to yourself to get the very best.  Save your money, get the best deal on a credit card, make sure you have enough time off from work.  You're worth it.  I am planning my time off, how much it will cost me for gas and hotel (My "Good" doctor is two hours away) and what I'll use for time off at work.  I should have done this the first time, but again, I'm very lucky to be able to do it right the second time.  This is something I've wanted for about 10 years and I'm not going to screw it up again. 

5.  Once you've got your resources together, only look at board certified plastic surgeons, OR, doctors who have proven skills and track records IN THE AREAS YOU WANT TREATED.  This is a wonderful website, and it probably saved me from going back to the quack and letting him try to fix me (he told me could, but I got a full refund instead) but I would direct you to liposuction.com.  It's a great place to gather all the info you'll need to be well informed about your procedure and what can and can't be done.  There's also a great page with a list of questions to ask the doctors - you will want to interview at least two, if not three - that you're considering using.

6.  The most important questions you can ask are, "How long have you been doing this procedure on the areas I want treated and how many have you done?", "How do you determine where to sculpt and contour?" and lastly, "Can I have three references that I can call that have had the same areas done?".  Don't gloss over any answers that you're not totally comfortable with, and if they cannot give you three references, thank them and never call them back.  Any doctor who is good at this will have several happy customers who would love to tell you how happy they are.

7.  Be an active particpant in the procedure.  Let the doctor know excactly what you want and don't let him say "I know what to do" before you lay on that table.  If he gives you a hard time, say thank you, get up, get dressed and get out.  It's your body. 

I hope this helps someone.  Again,  I'm not anti-smartlipo, but I've learned a very valuable lesson about cosmetic surgery and the makers of the machines that assist with it.  I'm looking forward to my next surgery and am thanking God that I'm able to come out of this OK.  I'd love to hear from others.  Also, I'd like to thank Julie7 on this site.  Her comments and review along with all those who wrote in helped me get to this point tonight.  



Updated on Aug 7, 2008:

UPDATE  - AUGUST 7th - Something else that's very important for everyone considering smartlipo to know - Even those who get happy with the procedure are not completely happy with their first results, no matter how good the doctor is.  This is not bad, just honest.  It appears that a few bumps and lumps will show up during recovery and they'll need to be fixed.  Almost every post here gives credit to that. 

A good doctor will tell you that you will probably need a touch-up, or even two, due to the fact that while he/she will do their best, you will have a lot of fluid in your legs/stomach/whereever and it is almost impossible to get a 100% smooth result the first time. 

NOW - this is different from having major issues, such as mine for example.  I consider 12-inch ridges down the front of both my thighs and sharp indentations at the top of both NOT to be touch-ups, but screw-ups.  If I did not have those, the small lumps in the other areas might have been acceptable, but I believe all touch-ups should be minor.  Contouring and blending are not negotiable. 

This review is the subjective opinion of a RealSelf member and not of RealSelf, Inc.

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ndmoreno (77 posts) 9 Jun 2008
Hey Thanks for your story and wow!! You covered it nicely for folks out there running to get fixed up by this lunchtime procedure. Everything you said is accurate and difinitely helpful for someone seeking out to do the treatment. Can I see what happened to you? And would you mind letting me know who is going to fix you? Or could you review my story under Unattrative Result and tell me if I look like something your doctor could help me with??? I don't want to have to pay for a mistake for the rest of my life. I really do feel deformed now. I understand having a deformity. I an accept that. But a self-inflicted One? That's the part I am having a hard time with. I trusted my doctor and I feel as though he let me down. After paying for the thing and meeting in person, I learned that it really was lipo but couldn't get a refund or I would have. I basically considered myself stuck. Thanks again for puting your information out there to help others. You are truly paying it forward. You are a good person.
bowling babe (28 posts) 13 Jun 2008
Hi ND, I've read your review and was horrifed about what happened to you. I am very sorry for your experience. In fact, it was after reading your write-up a few weeks ago that I got the nerve to pursue my total refund. One thing we as women need to do more - stand up to any professional when we have questions and tell them "no" when it doesn't feel right. I'm never going to let this happen to me again. In fact, I've called my new doctor twice to get references. They told me they're calling clients right now, but it's hard to get people to agree to discuss this procedure and I can relate to that. But they need to find me at least two or I'm not going to use them. They promised to get me some info by next week. I really can't speak to what my new doctor could or could not do for you, but the wavy area on the side of your leg looks similar to one of my areas that will be corrected. I don't have pictures but I can tell you that 90% of my issues are shaping and contouring on the outer thighs. The Quack just sucked out fat without blending into untouched areas. I don't mind telling you that I was absolutely terrifed when I went to meet Dr. F. (New, Good Doctor). I was afraid he was going to take one look at me and say I was a lost cause. I almost cried tears of joy when I showed him my legs and he immediately began to say what needed to be done and how he'd do it. He looked at one area and said, "You've got to feather this in,just like a professional painter joining old and new paint so no one can tell where one area ends and the other begins. I can't believe he didn't do that". Then he realized who he was talking about and said, "well, he's a quack." That's where I got the nickname. I am reluctant to give Dr. F.'s full name on this site since I got a strange e-mail asking for the new doctor I'm going to. I have a funny feeling it's from the Quack's office or wife. When we met with him to get my refund, he demanded to know what doctor I was going to use and I wouldn't tell him. I'd also like to wait until after my first corrective surgery before I give out his name, just to make sure I'm OK. Don't want to jinx myself. Feel free to e-mail me. I know how it feels to think you're the only one with this issue. And by the way, I can certainly understand how you view yourself, but from what I see in your pictures, your legs look pretty good for the most part. I can't imagine that someone worth their salt can't make some adjustments to make your feel much better.
CW (2 posts) 18 Jun 2008
Hello, I am planning to have Smart Lipo done on my abdomen next month. The only affordable price I was able to find just happens to be in Batavia. Would you mind telling me if the Doctor I am using is the "Quack" you encountered? This Doctor is Dr. {edited}. I really don't know alot about him, other than the basic information I was able to gather on the internet. Thus far, I haven't come across anything negative. I am going in for my consultation this week, and plan to schedule the procedure for the end of next month. Any advice you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for sharing your experience. It is very helpful to those of us who are new to all of this, and are still in the decision making phase. Editor note: You must be contacted privately to receive the information you requested. This requires free registration for an account. When registering, you must opt-in to receive private messages (a check box).
bowling babe (28 posts) 19 Jun 2008
CW, The Quack in Batavia is a pediatrician and the only Dr. in Batavia that does smart lipo. I can't speak to his stomach lipo skills but if you're looking for an opinion, I'd wait and save some more money to go to someone else. To give you an idea of what your procedure might be like with him, I felt everything and was in pain most of the time. Twice I cried out and he ignored me both times. When the procedure was done it was obvious that my legs weren't even but he tossed his gown off, got me bandaged and tossed me out the door into the mall. His staff isn't geared toward lipo, they're geared toward kids. Nice people, but not the supportive kind I learned I want behind me in a procedure like this. When my husband and I went to get my refund from him, he was more concerned about pointing out that I signed the release and telling me where I was wrong instead of admitting that he didn't blend and contour any of the areas he touched. He's never done lipo before he bought the machine. I was stupid to go to him and lucky to be in as good a shape as I am. There's a Dr. in Williamsville that I talked to. His office staff leaves something to be desired but he's a plastic surgeon, not a doctor looking to make free and clear cash on the side. The doctor I'm working with right now is opening an office in Rochester, NY this fall so there's another option. As for not finding anything negative, you won't find anything officially negative on the internet about a doctor in New York State unless a complaint has been officially filed with the NYS Office of Standards and Practices AND the doctor has been cited. Any complaints that aren't found to be "true" are never published. I'm sitting here rubbing my legs, thinking about my corrective surgery. Think real hard about using Batavia Medical Laser Center.
big breast guy (1 post) 19 Jul 2008
Hi bowlingbabe, I'm a guy who lives near Batavia and am considering Smartlipo for my breasts. Please let me know how you like your new doctor, and if you're comfortable with it, his name. Want to find a good local doctor for this! Thanks.
bowling babe (28 posts) 3 Aug 2008
Hi "BBG", sorry it took me so long to get back to you. the doctor's name is {edited} in Utica, NY, at Rejuvenate Medispa. If you call, please tell them Roberta R. gave yo utheir name. Good luck! Editor note You must contact the user privately to share provider information. To contact another user click their username.
rachel goldberg (1 post) 11 Aug 2008

I am considering smart lipo with a DR in Utica, NY at Medspa min a few weeks. Anything good or bad about this DR.?

bowling babe (28 posts) 17 Aug 2008

If you're referring to {edited} on Genesee Street in Utica, He's the doctor I've been writing about that's doing my corrections in less and a month.  You can read my comments about the references I got and the consultations I've had with him.  I'm very confident about his skills from everything I've researched.  I would be very interested in your experience with the office and Dr. F in general.  Please let me know, and thanks in advance for your info.

 

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chub guy (4 posts) 6 Oct 2008
Hello Bowling Babe and others who are considering using this Dr. in the mini mall in Batavia. I have to admit that I was one of his victims. I first went in Oct 97 for a abdomen lipo and waited until april 08 before I was determined that no results had occured. Mind you, I am an educated individual (PhD) and I thought I knew all the right questions to ask. He told me he had done several of the procedures before, and even some men. When I called the office to complain they told me I was his first male to have this procedure and I would have to speak with him directly. He was rude on the phone and stated I needed to come in and see him. When I arrived, he lifted up my shirt and said, "It looks much better to me!" Then I reminded him and showed him my before picture and he finally agreed to do the procedure again which he did. This time I directed him how much fat i wanted to see in the tube before I left as I had researched this in detail. The staff tried to be accomodating. However, they kept opening the door exposing me lying there in my underwear, they didn't know how to use the razer for prepping. I screamed in pain a few times and he completely ignored me (And I have a high tolerance for pain). I would not recommend him to anyone!
bowling babe (28 posts) 9 Oct 2008
Chub Guy, I am pursuing legal action against "Dr. Mini Mall" Would you be willing to talk with me and possibly join me in it? Let me know.
dizzyheiffer (5 posts) 16 Oct 2008
i have just had my upper and lower abdomen done and i'm not sure if i'm gonna look deformed or not! starting to be worried. first of all, there was NO INDICTION of the actual process in the literature i was given!i was completely unprepared and horrified at the whole process. i looked thinner at the office immediately after the surgery but started to swell the next day...she said i would but she did not elude to the fact that i would look even bigger than before the procedure. it was done on a saturday and by thursday, i looked as if i would explode...literally! she assured me that this was normal...i am now three weeks post-op and now my main complaint is the hardness. even though i look less lumpy, i have strange deposits of hard "fat'? i start the morning pretty flat and during the work day, ANYwhere my clothing touches..waistband, zipper, etc. becomed a huge indention or extrusion to the point that i look very deformed by the time i am able to get my clothes off in the evening. i have faithfully worn the compression garments and purchased a couple of extra so i am never without. please let me know if you have had any of this experience and if it will fix itself...i was NEVER told that i might need a second surgery or touch-up. she just says i will be back in a bikini soon. my kids are graduating and i don't even feel the need to be perfect again at my age, just wanted to feel better about myself and look good for my husband...i am really hoping i havent made a big mistake..........please help!
Mass mama (5 posts) 18 Oct 2008
Dizzy, I have had all of the same symptoms that you describe. At almost 6 weeks post op that is finally starting to go away. I only have a narrow band just below my belly button that is still hard. The swelling at the end of the day is LESS - but still there. You have another experience to go through yet - nerve pain - extrememely sensitive to the touch, tingly or sunburned feeling (it's nasty) but that too is getting less. It's easier if you know what to expect - I think - so you don't imagine something is not quite right. FYI - i went out and bought a couple of pairs of maternity pants for those couple of weeks that I just could not stand wearing a waist band. "It hurts to be beautiful"
chub guy (4 posts) 30 Oct 2008
my abdominal lumps are getting more pronounced........
chub guy (4 posts) 30 Oct 2008
Bowling babe, I would consider legal action.How do we exchange information? i only live about 20 miles from Batavia. have you spoken to anyone legal yet? -- Editor note: This user can be contacted privately by clicking on their username.
CW (2 posts) 19 Jun 2008
Hello, Thank you so much for shedding some light on all of this for me. As I explained, I am very new to this, and information is often limited, with regard to the specific doctors themselves. I will definitely be doing a little more "shopping around" before I make my final decision. Good luck with your corrective procedure. Thanks again. Take care.
bowling babe (28 posts) 2 Jul 2008
Just an update - Spoke with all four references from Dr F's office and am very happy with the info I got. All are thrilled with their entire experience there and are happy with their results. Three of them had the same areas done that I'm getting corrected and both say what a great job the Dr. did with contouring and blending, and touchups are included and expected to make sure you're even and happy with your results. - Met with the traditional lipo doctor today just to cover all my bases. Not at all impressed with his lack of knowledge of smart lipo procedure and results. Kept telling me that I shouldn't worry and that it will take 6-12 months for my results to show. Obviously doesn't know about the much shorter results time for smart lipo. Also told me that pain would last that long. I'm not in any pain anymore, just a little sore to the touch in a couple of spots still. I'm definitely sticking with my new smart lipo doctor in Utica, NY.
kh (1 post) 7 Jul 2008
Hi bowling babe, Can you tell me who dr F, the good smartlipo surgeon you went to and where he is located as I would like to get the surgery myself on my thighs. Can you tell me how you went. Regards kh
Mandi (1 post) 8 Jul 2008
DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY! I had the procedure done @ Medical Spas of Houston..MAJOR LIARS! They will nag you before the procedure to snatch your money..then after you realize it doesnt work..the're going to advise you to wait for the "Magic" results..Uhmmm several months later-no change. Yes I excercise. Yes I eat right. Yes I brought Spinx (garment they use to make you think you are losing anything but very minimal 2-4 lbs water weight that comes right back). After procedure: you are on your own! Procedure is NOT a lunch time miracle, Procedure is messy. Yo
luis (2 posts) 15 Jul 2008
hi mandi-- just today i went in to see "the country's most sought after" smartlipo doctor. without giving his name, was your procedure done by him at his office on west tc jester in the galleria area of houston? i am in the medical profession and his office staff left me a bit aghast and concerned...i didn't even see the physician, just an advanced practice nurse and a pr person about the procedure. conclusion...LAME at best.
bowling babe (28 posts) 16 Jul 2008
Luis, Good catch on your observations. This is a great example of who not to use. You should always speak at length with the doctor performing your procedure. This is a big decision and shouldn't be handled by the second string team.
luis (2 posts) 27 Aug 2008
hey mandi-- sorry for the long time to respond. than so much for your reply. before i got your reply i had already decided against the procedure. i hope that you are doing better and are recovering. take care. if you need anyone to talk to or need any medical advise, feel free to contact me at any time. luis
WAITINGINBUFFALO (2 posts) 9 Jul 2008
i so glad i read your post. I have a consultation in batavia at the "laser place" and i was very surprised to see that it doubles as a pediatricians office. I can't thank you enough for this. I'm in Buffalo and a medispa here is starting to offer this procedure, so, I'm, going to wait it out awhile until he gets a few patients under his belt...thanks again
bowling babe (28 posts) 22 Jul 2008
Hi Waiting, Glad this helped. I feel more stupid every time I think about what I did. I'm very happy with Dr F so far and am not looking, but could you tell us the name of the spa in Buffalo? I have an update on Batavia from someone who went recently. Apparently Dr "I" is opening a separate office in the same mall to do smart (or in his case, not-so-smart) lipo. That means that he'll look a little more professional when someone walks in but DON'T BUY IT. I've been in more than one very nice office and after talking with them discovered they're not all they're cracked up to be and that's the case with him. He made a comment to me when I went for my refund. I showed him a sunken area on my inner thigh and told him I was afraid I'd have to have a fat graft. He interrupted me and said "You won't have to have a fat graft, I know a plastic surgeon and I know you don't need one." Really. BTW - that sunken area has improved greatly since I started working out on the treadmill again. I can see now that it will probably be corrected with my next surgery. Some things I wanted to share since I wrote my initial review. If you are having any issues with tightening of the skin/long bumps and lumps in your legs, I would suggest a serious walking routine when you feel up to it again. As I said above, the difference is amazing. I started the treadmill again in earnest about three weeks ago (four times a week with two strength circuit sessions a week, too) and at that time my inner thighs were sore and one looked really bad. I decided it was best to try to ignore it and get a grip. Just yesterday it occurred to me as I was treading that I didn't feel anything and realized that the pain was gone, and I hadn't had any for about a week. I got brave enough to really look at my right thigh and almost cried with joy to see the improvement. I'm pretty confident that with the corrections I'll be just fine. Something else to consider: If you're having inner and/or outer thighs done you'll want to press the doctor about your anterior (frontal) thighs, too. In "old" lipo, from everything I read and heard, they would not do front or back of thighs. On "liposuction.com" I've read that almost the entire leg can now be done, and, in fact, there are several pictures showing that. I am so happy because I realized that my anteriors need work and Dr. F assumed that he'd address those, too, for a complete job for my corrections. I read that no more that 60% of the fat should be removed from that area, but improvement, not perfection would be just dandy with me. I also found a site called "makemeheel.com" that sells all sorts of items for recovery. I'm going to look into the Actipatch for my next procedures. Just some FYI. Has anyone tried those?
WAITINGINBUFFALO (2 posts) 9 Jul 2008
the medispa in buffalo is smooth solutions. I called the office today and the receptionist was very open with me. She said the doctor and the nurses are doing their training the week and they will be set to roll out the actual procedure in the next two weeks. she also stated that they will perform the procedures on the staff first, so they are doing consults but actual appointments will be a month or so down the line. Im actually looking to get my jaw line and chin done. Im kind of scared because if that gets fudged up, there's really no hiding that from public view.
bowling babe (28 posts) 14 Jul 2008
I can see your point and you are wise to wait. I've been very grateful that I can wear capris this summer to cover up my thighs. If it was my face I'd be mortified. Is the doctor at Smooth Solutions a plastic surgeon to begin with? If not, I'd be even more leary. I plan on giving out my doctor's full name and locations after my first corrective procedure. He's planning on opening an office in Rochester later this year so if you're interested in waiting and driving here I can give you his name as soon as I'm done with my first round. I don't want to jinx myself or jump the gun, if you know what I mean. As a side note, judging from his staff and the great references I got, I'll be moving all my cosmetic business over to him when he comes to Rochester. I have roseacea (sp?), too and get periodic laser treatments for it along with an occasional peel. Has made a big difference for me.

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