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“Worth the Wait-Takes Longer to Go into Effect than Dysport - Scottsdale, AZ”
Spent: $200 in Scottsdale, AZ
When I was a kid, I thought it was fun to be able to move my eyebrows separately because of my brow muscles. Then in my late 20's, the "11's" appeared. Not so fun.
I'm talking about the wrinkles in between your brows you make when you get mad - and botox is awesome to eliminate them. My first time after botox, I waited impatiently for 3 days for it to take effect but when it did I could not stop admiring the incredibly smooth plane of my forehead-and I was hooked! In fact, I can't find any good pre-botox pics. It made more of a difference than I thought it would! I just do little amounts and also some in my upper forehead, it is minimal pain. Just a few quick pricks then some temporary swelling. It could be my imagination but I think I feel more tired than usual on the day I get injected. I work out a lot so I guess I process it faster than normal. I find that I need touch ups about every 2 months.
Updated on 16 Jan 2012:
After I had my wisdom teeth pulled in 2010, I had noticed that my jaws looked so squared and bulky afterwards. I had heard about botox helping with this bulkiness by preventing the "clenching" action. When I asked Dr. Holden about it, he said he has seen it greatly improve this issue with continuous treatment. He carefully injected 15 units into each side. This is an area I would only recommend a facial specialist do since you have to hit certain jaw muscles. He did it in the perfect spot as always and I love the results! The first week they bulked out awkwardly because of the muscle being so thick, the botox starts working differently then on the rest of your face. I wasn't sure that it would help that much but I notice a huge difference, it totally worked!
Updated on 19 Feb 2012:
So a few days after the botox started working in my jaw muscles, I noticed one side was protruding a bit more than the other when I bit down and was still able to clench slightly so I had 10 more units and it was just the right amount. Not sure how long it will last in comparison to my forehead but will let you know when I figure that out!
Updated on 11 Mar 2012:
I noticed the last few days when I woke up, I was clenching my jaw enough to feel some strain, guess it's time for a touch up! I figured the jaw muscles would need more bc they are bigger anyways-surprised it lasted this long...about 2 months (including the touch up shortly after initial injections though).
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My Doctor: Paul K. Holden, MD
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Was going to a nurse practioner which was alright but then I met Dr. Holden. His specialized and very extensive knowledge of the facial muscles proved to give me much more precise and accurate injections. Never have any unwanted muscle movements after he injects me (which I have had happen to me in the past). Besides that, he is just a great and caring doctor. With him, your face is in excellent hands!

Hi Scottsdale,
The Botox looks great and you are very pretty, I'm glad it worked out so well. You probably are more tired on days you have had Botox. A number of community members mention the same thing. I know you had a positive experience which is awesome, but here is some info in our forum "Flu like Symptoms after Botox" where they mention being tired after.
Thanks so much!
I noticed the tiredness more when I first started getting the Botox. I have probably gotten used to it because the tiredness is slight now and plus I get it in such small increments at a time (anywhere from 10-20 units). Either way, it's way worth it and would never deter me from getting it. The swelling is minimal now that I go to a facial plastic surgeon and I get very accurately placed and precise shots. You can tell when you get a not-so-accurate injection-with previous injectors, I would sometimes leave the office with HUGE swollen knots on my forehead!!
Oh wow, I can't believe you were brave enough to keep getting Botox after the huge swollen knots! I think I would have gotten scared off from it.
You mentioned in your review that you think you process it faster due to working out. I work out also, and had no idea that affected how long the Botox would last.
I had no idea either about things that affect how fast your body processes fillers and botox. It's hard to give an amount of time because every individual is different. Also depends on how much one likes to maintain the appearance that they get these injections for. I am pretty obsessive about keeping up with my routines. I just got touched up w botox yesterday bc I had noticed a little movement between my brows and I prefer that there are absolutely no wrinkles in my forehead. Keeps people from seeing my "furrowed" or mad look which is not that flattering or attractive lol.
Glad to hear you are with a good plastic surgeon now! We sound a bit alike, I tend to be somewhat obsessive with my routines as well, haha!
Glad you are having good results from the injections - keep us posted from time to time, always nice to hear how things are going in the long run. :)
Hey Scottsdale,
Yes I imagine a Facial Plastic Surgeon would for sure know where to put each shot perfectly. So I can only imagine the difference seen. So glad everything worked out so well.
Thanks for posting the pictures, I can definitely see the difference you are talking about. Has it felt any different when you chew or drink?
That's a great side effect! I'm a night time teeth grinder too, so I hear you about how much it can wear down the enamel.
Glad you were able to get the touch-up you need so things would look/feel symmetrical. Will be interested to hear how it affects your teeth grinding!!
Alex
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Your beautiful girl and there is nothing wrong with self improvement:)
As far as the wisdom goes, more wrinkles does not equate to more wisdom!! Trust me, I've met many wrinkly faces that have traits that are far from wise! What you say and what you do goes much further in the showing your wisdom issue. I think its pretty hard to gauge that characteristic purely from the physical appearance. Bone structure is certainly the frame or base for your face-no matter what I do to my skin or lips though it is not going to change that. I am enhancing not doing major overhauls.