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Had Crown Lengthening/gum Lift and Am Now Waiting to Get 6 Feldspathic Veneers - Santa Barbara, CA

UPDATED FROM Bunnyman
11 months post

I still am very unhappy with the large black...

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$19,305
I still am very unhappy with the large black triangle gaps between both lateral incisors. The dentist thinks the tissue will fill in, but I am very doubtful and so far no changes. I just can't believe after so much anguish that I am still unhappy with the results. :(

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So far, the whole process has been excellent. I will update my report after I receive the permanent veneers

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April 29, 2013

The second set of veneers look great. You have to be realistic of the results. I would personally sue the first dentist that gave you huge horse teeth and you had every right to be angry. But rest assured you fixed the problem. Beautiful smile now.

June 3, 2013
From a patient point of you. You as a patient . See the customer, paying costumer, that is. You Make the doctor show you everything and make him take his time. The second he is trying to rush you, should be the second for you to get up and leave. Some doctors . Are known to rush a patients. Their priority is to make you happy and satisfied. Looks like each dentist didn't wanna know more vCard about your opinion.that's why they never cared for you to see the implants in detail before fermented into your mouth. they already got their money from you....sorry you are not happy. You can always wired formal complaint to the dentist office. And tell them how you felt and how your concerns have been ignored.
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July 1, 2013
WOW, thanks for posting! You went thru alot but you look great!
July 4, 2013
Did you ever receive a refund? The outcome of your veneers look great! I am going through a similar situation of absolutely hating mine and they were just put on yesterday...ugh, SO disappointing. I have looked into contacting my local Dental Association...were they of any help to you? Thanks!
July 4, 2013
Actually, I never even paid for the first set of veneers. I left the office very upset and went home and wrote a letter explaining my dissatisfactions in detail. The office was very accommodating and offered a redo and said that I didn't have to pay. The dentist made some excuses and tried to appease me. So, I recommend documenting your issues in a letter. I did not have to go to my local dental association because I never paid but did suffer pain and emotional hurt.
July 5, 2013
I've written letters to two different dentist on my cosmetic cases before and it didn't do much. I've read about having a peer review done with your dental association. Someone else I know had a lawyer call their dentist and they got a refund. I hope you get your money back!
July 6, 2013
Thank you for letting me know. I'm glad you didn't have to deal with getting a refund. But, I can completely understand the emotional suffering and pain. I never went into this process thinking that it would be so draining. My process has taken 10 months due to so many errors by the lab. I never even thought about backing out because I do remember signing some paperwork and had already paid a few thousand towards it. The veneers were put on a few days ago since they did look much much better and good to go. Yet, this is how they appeared on the tray and not in my actual mouth. I'm not sure if it is the dentist himself or how the lab shaped them, but they appear just so "off." Hoping this doesn't turn into a battle, but I really just don't trust the dentist/lab anymore and want a refund to have them redone by someone else. Will get a second opinion on the work, then contact my local dental association, then write a letter if needed, but I'm so willing to get a lawyer. Who would have ever thought trying to improve a smile would make us cringe and even cry over the disappointments and struggles.
July 6, 2013
That's a bummer! Did you express your feelings to your dentist? Did the temps look like the veneers you have in your mouth? Did you have a chance to see them in your mouth prior to getting cemented? Why did you stick with this dentist after so long if you didn't feel comfortable with him or the lab? You should have switched dentist when you lost that faith. I think dentist have an obligation to help you make a smooth transition to switching dentist. It's like part of their code of ethics.
July 24, 2013
Everything I've read says never place 6 veneers, always 2, 8, 10 or 12. Maybe that is some of the problem with yours.
October 16, 2013
I have heard this as well..
UPDATED FROM Bunnyman
10 months post

A week ago, I had the second set of veneers...

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A week ago, I had the second set of veneers cemented. Needless to say, again, I am not happy with the results. The same exact thing happened as with the previous dentist when I asked to examine the veneers for size, color, shape and fit before the final cementation. I assumed that he was going to use the try in paste, but he just laid them on and I got a brief 2 second glance before he starting the final cementation. The result is that again the teeth are too bright, opaque, one color and there are huge black triangular gaps between the lateral incisors. When I asked about the solid color, he said that it would have looked rather 2 toned if colors were shaded. I asked about the gaps and he said that the gaps will fill in. I highly doubt that the huge gaps will fill in. I wonder why he would go ahead and cement the veneers when he could clearly see the huge gaps. He should have rejected the two incisor veneers and had them remade. Most likely, I will have to have them redone, but will wait patiently for a few months to see if the gaps fill in.

The positive thing is that the shape, size and fit are great. The gum tissue is looking healthy and normal and I have no pain. He made the veneers a bit unperfect, as I requested because I didn't want that fake Hollywood smile. I want to mention that veneers in photos do not look anything like they do in real life. In photos, my veneers look good, but in real life, they look rather fake. I really didn't want a fake veneer look that people would notice. I now notice everyones's teeth and think that most veneers do not look that great. I can easily spot most veneers and wish that the outcome would be a more natural look.

My final thoughts are that yes, my teeth and smile do look better. However, I expected more of my expectations to have been met. I would rate my satisfaction as about 80%. I was really hoping for a 100% satisfaction rate. I am very upset about the huge gaps, but can live with the color.

My advice to anyone considering veneers is to think very seriously and unless you have to do it, DON'T. I had no choice because of the crown lengthening surgery and the terribly small misshapen teeth. I would suggest bonding first, before any veneering. This whole process has been very traumatic and I can't believe after 2 times, I still haven't gotten the results I wanted.

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March 25, 2013
The gums get lifted by thread when the veneers are placed. Usually the gums do fall back down and cover the black triangles. So hopefully that's the case for you. However, I'm a bit concerned how you did not speak up some more before the cementing. This was your second go at this stuff and you should have known better in my opinion. Hopefully the doctor does not charge you to have them redone again but you seem like a well informed patient that should not have let this happen twice.
March 27, 2013
I agree, and I desperately tried to ask him questions, but it was very difficult while he was working in my mouth. I thought he was applying the try in paste so I could approve the veneers. The dentist told me that there were going to be a few try ins before the final cementation. I feel totally betrayed and will be contacting my local dental association.
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April 7, 2013
I think your teeth look great. The gaps are not that noticeable to me or at least in the photos. Your newest veneers look allot better. I had crown lengthening done and gum replacement surgery. Give the gums some more time. I found it took my gums several months to fill in. Great story and I enjoyed your persistence.
March 4, 2015
Who was your second dentist who put the second set of veneers on? Would you recommend him for a gum lift? Does he offer laser gum lifts? I think your smile looks great :)
UPDATED FROM Bunnyman
7 months post

The removal of the old veneers was quite tedious...

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The removal of the old veneers was quite tedious and the grinding noise was rather unbearable. Thankfully, I was given earplugs to lessen the grinding noise. I had a fear that all of my teeth were going to be damaged from the veneer removal and I would have to have root canals done on all the previously veneered teeth. Luckily, the dentist did a great job and I didn't have much pain except for some sensitivity to hot and cold.

The redo of the crown lengthening was uneventful except for some gum tissue discoloration and swelling of my lips and mouth. I was concerned about the swelling of my lips because this did not happen in the previous gum surgery. My gums and tissue are healing nicely and now I have to wait another 3 months for the final veneers. Both the new Periodontist and Dentist seem very sympathetic to my situation and have been extremely communicative and pro active with my case. Currently, my biggest complaint is the color of the temporaries are too yellow. I have made this clear that I do not want this color as the finals.

The new dentist made the new temporaries smaller and shorter and they match much better with my other teeth. The new dentist has taken impressions every time I have been examined. The new veneers are $510 more than the first veneers and the crown lengthening re-do was $1695 in addition to the $7500 I previously paid. Fortunately I never paid for the first veneers. The veneer/crown lengthening saga has now been going on for almost a year. Thankfully, the new dentist made the temporaries very solid and strong so they will last for a few months until I am ready for the finals. Stay tuned, and wish me luck.

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December 12, 2012

Thx for sharing your experience! My 18 yr old daughter needs to get veneers she wear braces and two front teeth are very small which makes her teeth shift. But I don't know if I want to pay that much for veneers or bonding or laminate veneers. Any suggestions Plz help

December 13, 2012

What a good mom to be doing a bunch of research before choosing the right treatment for your daughter! Here is some info that might help with your decision making:

Bonding Vs Veneers/crown?

Are Porcelain Veneers or Bonding a Better Option for Peg Teeth?

Dental Bonding Vs Veneers for More Natural Looking Teeth?

When Would a Patient Choose Bonding over Lumineers? (Just as a heads up Lumineers are a brand name of a particular kind of veneer).

 

 

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January 7, 2013
Thank you for sharing. Had a nightmare with a dentist, long story short I am in the process of 10 veneers crowns across upper teeth. It is a pretty tough process and has also taken a lot out of me. Just had all 10 temps placed this week and permanant veneers crowns will be done on 1/30. I went very white and am bleaching my lower teeth. He did gum lift because I hated my short front teeth, I love the temporaries so fingers crossed I will love the permanant