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Retin-A - Damaged my Face! - San Ramon, CA

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Updated 1 May 2012

Posted 28 Jul 2011

What I used: Atralin .05%

How often I used it: A pea size amount once a week.  Took a couple of breaks when the adverse effects were too intense and unbearable.

How I used it: Toner first, followed by moisturizer, 4% hydroquinone, then Atralin, and sunblock SPF30 (19% zinc oxide) last.

Why I used it: To get rid of brown spots on my cheeks.

How long I used it: 3 ½ months.

Cost: Free, my derm gave me a bunch of free samples.

Pros: Absolutely none!

Cons:  Caused broken capillaries on cheeks and around nose. Derm said that it can’t be caused by retin-a. Maybe so but I know for sure I didn’t have broken capillaries before retin-a.
Peeling skin here and there, now skin is uneven.
Suffer burning, inflamed, red, dry and itchy, and swollen skin.
Skin looks thinner and is even blotchier than before.
Caused pimples, acne cysts, and white milia. Haven’t had pimples since my teenage years. I’m 50 now.

AAAUUUUUUGGGGGHHHH! Retin-a ruined my skin. My skin is worse than before retin-a.

My derm highly recommended it. He told me he used it on himself for years. He even gave me a copy of an article he wrote on retin-a touting its benefits for photo-aging.  I figured if it is that good and he using it on himself, then I should use it too. Now, my derm tells me to not to use it anymore. Also, he tells me I should go see him (not for free of course – more $$$) to discuss other treatment options.

I hate retin-a! It’s not for me and I stop using it. Thanks to retin-a, I have more problems to fix or just live with (argh!). In addition to the original brown spots, I have to fix the uneven peeling, broken capillaries, and milia caused by retin-a. The uneven peeling looks like wrinkles. My whole face is a mess and just looks awful. Anyone out there want to help me and give me some advice on what to do? I’m against laser and IPL – too many horror stories.



Updated on 1 May 2012:
I’ve been super duper depressed to the point of being suicidal at times. So, reading some of the hurtful and negative comments to my posting certainly didn’t help. It just increased my blood pressure and added to my anxiety. Also, I found some of the comments to be very presumptuous. Even with the best research, things may not work out the way we hope it would. Before I started Retin-A, the approval rating on RealSelf was well over 90%. Now, I see the rating has drop.

I posted my experience to warn others that this is not the miracle drug that a lot of satisfied users made it out to be. It may work for a lot of people but it may have dire consequences for some. In my case, Retin-A not only ruined my face, it ruined my life!

Let me spell out exactly how I used Retin-A. I used it only at night – PM only, never ever AM. I washed my face with Ceptaphil. Afterwards, I apply the alcohol free Dermesis Toner. The toner is supposed to clean any impurity that the cleanser didn’t get. Next, I apply the Dermesis Moisturizer. The moisturizer acts as a buffer to help minimize the harsh side effects of Retin-A. After the moisturizer, I would wait for at least 30 minutes before applying a pea size amount of Retin-A all over my face. The next day, I would wash my face with Cetaphil, apply moisturizer, and slather on the sunscreen.

My skin never adjusted to Retin-A. I started out using it every third night then I cut it back to once a week. At some point, I stopped for a couple of weeks to give my skin a rest. My face was always bright cherry tomato red. It always felt inflamed. My skin didn’t just flake off, it peeled off. I freaked out when I notice the broken caps. I finally decided I had to stop.

It’s been about 9 months since I stopped using Retin-A. Not much has changed. I still have the broken caps. My skin texture is horrible with enlarged pores. You could even see my pores before Retin-A. My skin tone is still blotchy. My skin color is all mottled. I have spots and patches of skin that are brown, black, and red. I cringe every time I look in the mirror. For me, Retin-A did more damage than good. Sometimes I feel my skin burning when the sun hits my face. So other than work, I hardly ever leave the house. When I do go outside, I apply tons of sunscreen and wear a big hat. I even wear a hat when I’m driving. I look and feel awful!

I don’t get these commenter’s rant about no toner. The Obagi NuDerm system uses toner and Retin-A. I think the way my derm instructed me to use Retin-A was his gentler approach to simulate Obagi for super sensitive skin. After my experience, I wouldn’t dare go near Obagi.

I’ve been to quite a few doctors and estheticians to no avail. They either don’t know how to help me or they tell me I should do a laser treatment. Some even tell to try Obagi NuDerm which is Retin-A. I don’t see how my face will ever recover. I think it just so hopeless.

Updated on 1 May 2012:
I made a boo-boo in my last update. I meant to say you could NOT even see my pores before Retin-A.

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BrittB 30 Jul 2011

Hi Scar,

Oh my, that's crazy that happened, I'm so sorry. You should chat with San Jose5976 she has the same story as you, broken capillaries and everything. Maybe you two could provide each other with some support.

Thank you!

-Britt

Megan P (Community Manager) 6 Sep 2011

Wow, I'm sorry to hear about what happend. Do you mind me asking what kind of toner you were using? I just started using Retin-A, so I want to do all I can to insure a good result.

Scar4Life 6 Sep 2011
Hi Megan,

I don't mind sharing info. Both the toner and moisturizer are by Dermesis. My derm recommended Dermesis and I brought them at his office. I don't really love the Dermesis. I think you can go with any toner and moisturizer. I really like Cerave PM. You can get it at Costco behind the pharmacy counter. If they don't have it at your Costco pharmacy, you can ask them to order it for you at no extra charge.

Please visit the "IPL AND LASER DAMAGE SUPPORT" website. Under "Support for New Members" you will find others who had adverse results from retin-a. There's stories with good results too. I hope your's will have a happy ending. Best Wishes!
Megan P (Community Manager) 7 Sep 2011

Thanks for the info! I'm a frequent Costco shopper so I will definitely check out Cerave PM!

I think NewUser below could have a good point about not using toner with Retin-A. I know my current facewash has 0.5% Salicylic Acid (Dermalogica Medi-Bac) and I'm a bit nervous about that and thinking I should get something milder.

Scar4Life 7 Sep 2011
There's an episode on dermtv.com (episode #118) that talks about this. Dr. Schultz says you should not use them at the same time. You can use the salicylic acid in the morning and the retin-a at time but not both at night. Here's the link http://www.dermtv.com/can-you-use-retin-other-exfoliants#comments
Megan P (Community Manager) 7 Sep 2011

Wow - thank you so much for the info!! I will check the link out. :)

NewUser 7 Sep 2011
Hi Scar4Life, I just started using a tretinoin (.05%) a couple of weeks ago. I did a LOT of research before I started using it and I think I might know your problem. According to the FDA, you should not be using a toner while using Retin-A. Unfortunately, your derm gave you some bad instructions. You're also supposed to use the tretinoin (retin a, renova, all the same active ingredient) first after washing. I really encourage everyone to really research how you are supposed to use this produce. It's a medicine and like all medicine it must be administered correctly to avoid horrible side effects. Also, I see a commonality between everyone's horror stories, hydroquinone. Ladies, I would not use this purely based on the fact that almost everyone that uses it seems to have a horrible experience.
Jaimeinma 1 Oct 2011

I agree...why you would use a toner, fill your pores with moisturizer and THEN put retin-a on top of that is beyond me. Using multiple anti aging ingredients is not a good idea. They can interact with each other. You should just wash your face - use the retin-a and stick with it. It will cause negative effects for a while before everything starts clearing up.

dolphins21 24 Oct 2011
I agree that this is a case of a derm giving you seriously bad advice on the proper usage of retin-a. First off, retin-a is NEVER to be used in the AM. This is a night time only product due to it being light sensitive and making your face sun sensitive. It is meant to be applied right before you hop in bed and shut off the light.
Secondly, retin-a is mean as a stand alone product...use a mild gentle cleanser, wait at least 15 minutes and apply retin-a. Nothing else should be used unless, of course, you are using hydroquinone. There are some that apply retin-a and wait 20-30 minutes and apply a moisturizer, but retin-a is truly meant to be used alone, nothing else. Toner is a big NO-NO!!!
Your best defense against situations like this is SELF KNOWLEDGE. It's ok to take someones advice in to consideration, but you still have to do your own homework! Retin-a works when used properly and responsibly. I am amazed this person is practicing medicine and handing out this sort of advice on retin-a.
judge 27 Apr 2012
You are absolutley right.Use gentle products with retin a just cleanser then apply retin a and 30 mins later use moisturizer. I use all cetaphil products for sensative skin.
judge 28 Apr 2012
Listen to dolphins 21 she knows what she is talking about.
dolphins21 1 May 2012
I'm really sorry for the predicament you are in with your skin, but you are contradicting yourself. In your original comment you stated: "How I used it: Toner first, followed by moisturizer, 4% hydroquinone, then Atralin, and sunblock SPF30 (19% zinc oxide) last."
Which means you were using it during the day. Now you are back tracking and saying you only used it at night.
Either way, retin-a should never be used after a toner...plain and simple. Not even at night.
I was not stating my comments to be hurtful, but in your original comment you clearly stated how you used it and you were using it wrong.
The key, once again, is to gain as much self knowledge as you can about products before using them. You can only rely so much on other peoples opinions, but you are responsible for doing your homework.
I wish you the best and hope your skin improves.
Scar4Life 1 May 2012
Thanks for your well wishes. I’m not backtracking. I was trying to be brief and concise in my original posting. I could see how my usage statement could be misinterpreted but the fact of the matter is I used Retin-A at night only. Retin-A was a bad choice for me. I don’t ever plan on using again.

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