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Retin-A - Damaged my Face! - San Ramon, CA

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What I used: Atralin .05% How often I used it:...

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What I used: Atralin .05%

How often I used it: A pea size amount once a week.  Took a couple of breaks when the adverse effects were too intense and unbearable.

How I used it: Toner first, followed by moisturizer, 4% hydroquinone, then Atralin, and sunblock SPF30 (19% zinc oxide) last.

Why I used it: To get rid of brown spots on my cheeks.

How long I used it: 3 ½ months.

Cost: Free, my derm gave me a bunch of free samples.

Pros: Absolutely none!

Cons:  Caused broken capillaries on cheeks and around nose. Derm said that it can’t be caused by retin-a. Maybe so but I know for sure I didn’t have broken capillaries before retin-a.
Peeling skin here and there, now skin is uneven.
Suffer burning, inflamed, red, dry and itchy, and swollen skin.
Skin looks thinner and is even blotchier than before.
Caused pimples, acne cysts, and white milia. Haven’t had pimples since my teenage years. I’m 50 now.

AAAUUUUUUGGGGGHHHH! Retin-a ruined my skin. My skin is worse than before retin-a.

My derm highly recommended it. He told me he used it on himself for years. He even gave me a copy of an article he wrote on retin-a touting its benefits for photo-aging.  I figured if it is that good and he using it on himself, then I should use it too. Now, my derm tells me to not to use it anymore. Also, he tells me I should go see him (not for free of course – more $$$) to discuss other treatment options.

I hate retin-a! It’s not for me and I stop using it. Thanks to retin-a, I have more problems to fix or just live with (argh!). In addition to the original brown spots, I have to fix the uneven peeling, broken capillaries, and milia caused by retin-a. The uneven peeling looks like wrinkles. My whole face is a mess and just looks awful. Anyone out there want to help me and give me some advice on what to do? I’m against laser and IPL – too many horror stories.


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I withheld the doc's name cause I may have to see him again. Got to my appointment early but still had to wait 40 minutes before he saw me. No free in person follow up. Follow up is by email. If you want an in person follow up, you'll have to pay. He's expensive -- $140 a visit. He answers my email promtly but sidesteps my questions.

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July 31, 2011

Hi Scar,

Oh my, that's crazy that happened, I'm so sorry. You should chat with San Jose5976 she has the same story as you, broken capillaries and everything. Maybe you two could provide each other with some support.

Thank you!

-Britt

November 5, 2012
September 6, 2011

Wow, I'm sorry to hear about what happend. Do you mind me asking what kind of toner you were using? I just started using Retin-A, so I want to do all I can to insure a good result.

November 4, 2012
You know what? In the end, my dear you will be sorry. You look older than I do, and therefore have more to lose. It's not worth it.
November 4, 2012

You are rude and your comments are useless! Megan P. judging based on your pic, you're a beautiful lady, don't listen to Cary1810 who doesn't even have the confidence to post a pic of herself.

November 4, 2012
troll
November 4, 2012
Cary1810, you are rude and a troll.
November 5, 2012
Just calling it as it is.
September 7, 2011
Hi Megan,

I don't mind sharing info. Both the toner and moisturizer are by Dermesis. My derm recommended Dermesis and I brought them at his office. I don't really love the Dermesis. I think you can go with any toner and moisturizer. I really like Cerave PM. You can get it at Costco behind the pharmacy counter. If they don't have it at your Costco pharmacy, you can ask them to order it for you at no extra charge.

Please visit the "IPL AND LASER DAMAGE SUPPORT" website. Under "Support for New Members" you will find others who had adverse results from retin-a. There's stories with good results too. I hope your's will have a happy ending. Best Wishes!
September 7, 2011

Thanks for the info! I'm a frequent Costco shopper so I will definitely check out Cerave PM!

I think NewUser below could have a good point about not using toner with Retin-A. I know my current facewash has 0.5% Salicylic Acid (Dermalogica Medi-Bac) and I'm a bit nervous about that and thinking I should get something milder.

September 7, 2011
There's an episode on dermtv.com (episode #118) that talks about this. Dr. Schultz says you should not use them at the same time. You can use the salicylic acid in the morning and the retin-a at time but not both at night. Here's the link http://www.dermtv.com/can-you-use-retin-other-exfoliants#comments
September 7, 2011

Wow - thank you so much for the info!! I will check the link out. :)

September 7, 2011
Hi Scar4Life, I just started using a tretinoin (.05%) a couple of weeks ago. I did a LOT of research before I started using it and I think I might know your problem. According to the FDA, you should not be using a toner while using Retin-A. Unfortunately, your derm gave you some bad instructions. You're also supposed to use the tretinoin (retin a, renova, all the same active ingredient) first after washing. I really encourage everyone to really research how you are supposed to use this produce. It's a medicine and like all medicine it must be administered correctly to avoid horrible side effects. Also, I see a commonality between everyone's horror stories, hydroquinone. Ladies, I would not use this purely based on the fact that almost everyone that uses it seems to have a horrible experience.
October 2, 2011

I agree...why you would use a toner, fill your pores with moisturizer and THEN put retin-a on top of that is beyond me. Using multiple anti aging ingredients is not a good idea. They can interact with each other. You should just wash your face - use the retin-a and stick with it. It will cause negative effects for a while before everything starts clearing up.

November 4, 2012
NO! This is NOT good advice.
November 4, 2012
Cary1810, how so? Haven't you heard? Retin-A DOES WORK FOR SOME PEOPLE. Most, in fact. Very few people have had negative side effects when used properly.
November 5, 2012
November 5, 2012

Cary1810, we would love for you to continue to participate and add helpful information to the community but we do need to ask that it is done in a way that is respectful to other community members.

Here is a link to our community guidelines, and you are welcome to send me a private message or contact our Community Support Center by clicking on the "Help" link at the bottom of each page if you would like to discuss this.

Thanks for understanding, and helping to keep RealSelf a positive place for people to share their experiences.

November 5, 2012
I'm sorry you are so hooked on your Retin A that you can't allow others to find out information for themselves. Again, I caution those who use Retin A. Medical science does not know how retin a works on skin. Read the inserts of your boxes. Retin A is absorbed systemically, and causes diffuse hairloss in MANY people. Trentinoin is an CYTOTOXIN. http://www.truthinaging.com/ingredient-spotlight/tretinoin-and-retinoids-toxicity-and-safety hair loss and retin a: http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=33534 meagan, you can't have a forum without both sides of the story.
November 5, 2012

Agreed, we do encourage people to post both the pros and cons for treatments. However, as I stated, it needs to be done in a way that is respectful to others.

If you were to read my review, you would see I stopped using it about 4 months ago because I didn't love the results I was seeing...so your little dig about "I'm sorry you are so hooked on your Retin A..." is not only inflammatory, but inaccurate.

April 5, 2018
I was so glad you're warning people as looking forward to using trentinion because I seen so many reports of pros but not many cons. After 6 months I noticed my hairline was thinning.my GP believe it was my thyroid as my skin looked 'off' too but it came back normal. I posted a question here asking if anyone else had this side effect but no reply. I stopped using it 2 weeks ago
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October 25, 2011
I agree that this is a case of a derm giving you seriously bad advice on the proper usage of retin-a. First off, retin-a is NEVER to be used in the AM. This is a night time only product due to it being light sensitive and making your face sun sensitive. It is meant to be applied right before you hop in bed and shut off the light.
Secondly, retin-a is mean as a stand alone product...use a mild gentle cleanser, wait at least 15 minutes and apply retin-a. Nothing else should be used unless, of course, you are using hydroquinone. There are some that apply retin-a and wait 20-30 minutes and apply a moisturizer, but retin-a is truly meant to be used alone, nothing else. Toner is a big NO-NO!!!
Your best defense against situations like this is SELF KNOWLEDGE. It's ok to take someones advice in to consideration, but you still have to do your own homework! Retin-a works when used properly and responsibly. I am amazed this person is practicing medicine and handing out this sort of advice on retin-a.
April 27, 2012
You are absolutley right.Use gentle products with retin a just cleanser then apply retin a and 30 mins later use moisturizer. I use all cetaphil products for sensative skin.
October 9, 2012
HI dolphin21, i want to know what you think about what im doing with retin a. i used it only on night, after washing my face with dove soap and waiting minimun 30 min to apply it.. my doctor prescribe me retin a and mela-D ( la roche posay) and she told me to used it one night retin a and the other night the mela- d and like that every day.. do you think im using the product right?? in the morning i wash my face with dove soap and use aveno cream and sunblock and thats it.
UPDATED FROM Scar4Life

I’ve been super duper depressed to the point...

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I’ve been super duper depressed to the point of being suicidal at times. So, reading some of the hurtful and negative comments to my posting certainly didn’t help. It just increased my blood pressure and added to my anxiety. Also, I found some of the comments to be very presumptuous. Even with the best research, things may not work out the way we hope it would. Before I started Retin-A, the approval rating on RealSelf was well over 90%. Now, I see the rating has drop.

I posted my experience to warn others that this is not the miracle drug that a lot of satisfied users made it out to be. It may work for a lot of people but it may have dire consequences for some. In my case, Retin-A not only ruined my face, it ruined my life!

Let me spell out exactly how I used Retin-A. I used it only at night – PM only, never ever AM. I washed my face with Ceptaphil. Afterwards, I apply the alcohol free Dermesis Toner. The toner is supposed to clean any impurity that the cleanser didn’t get. Next, I apply the Dermesis Moisturizer. The moisturizer acts as a buffer to help minimize the harsh side effects of Retin-A. After the moisturizer, I would wait for at least 30 minutes before applying a pea size amount of Retin-A all over my face. The next day, I would wash my face with Cetaphil, apply moisturizer, and slather on the sunscreen.

My skin never adjusted to Retin-A. I started out using it every third night then I cut it back to once a week. At some point, I stopped for a couple of weeks to give my skin a rest. My face was always bright cherry tomato red. It always felt inflamed. My skin didn’t just flake off, it peeled off. I freaked out when I notice the broken caps. I finally decided I had to stop.

It’s been about 9 months since I stopped using Retin-A. Not much has changed. I still have the broken caps. My skin texture is horrible with enlarged pores. You could even see my pores before Retin-A. My skin tone is still blotchy. My skin color is all mottled. I have spots and patches of skin that are brown, black, and red. I cringe every time I look in the mirror. For me, Retin-A did more damage than good. Sometimes I feel my skin burning when the sun hits my face. So other than work, I hardly ever leave the house. When I do go outside, I apply tons of sunscreen and wear a big hat. I even wear a hat when I’m driving. I look and feel awful!

I don’t get these commenter’s rant about no toner. The Obagi NuDerm system uses toner and Retin-A. I think the way my derm instructed me to use Retin-A was his gentler approach to simulate Obagi for super sensitive skin. After my experience, I wouldn’t dare go near Obagi.

I’ve been to quite a few doctors and estheticians to no avail. They either don’t know how to help me or they tell me I should do a laser treatment. Some even tell to try Obagi NuDerm which is Retin-A. I don’t see how my face will ever recover. I think it just so hopeless.

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October 30, 2014
I believe you have Rosacea which may have been brought on by the inflamatory reaction to the retin-a. I have similar issues and it occurred after using differin
UPDATED FROM Scar4Life

I made a boo-boo in my last update. I meant to say...

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I made a boo-boo in my last update. I meant to say you could NOT even see my pores before Retin-A.

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May 1, 2012
I'm really sorry for the predicament you are in with your skin, but you are contradicting yourself. In your original comment you stated: "How I used it: Toner first, followed by moisturizer, 4% hydroquinone, then Atralin, and sunblock SPF30 (19% zinc oxide) last."
Which means you were using it during the day. Now you are back tracking and saying you only used it at night.
Either way, retin-a should never be used after a toner...plain and simple. Not even at night.
I was not stating my comments to be hurtful, but in your original comment you clearly stated how you used it and you were using it wrong.
The key, once again, is to gain as much self knowledge as you can about products before using them. You can only rely so much on other peoples opinions, but you are responsible for doing your homework.
I wish you the best and hope your skin improves.
May 2, 2012
Thanks for your well wishes. I’m not backtracking. I was trying to be brief and concise in my original posting. I could see how my usage statement could be misinterpreted but the fact of the matter is I used Retin-A at night only. Retin-A was a bad choice for me. I don’t ever plan on using again.
July 14, 2012
Sounds like you were allergic to retin-a by the way it affected you. Either that or maybe you got a super concentrated formulation, some sort of factory mistake -- though that's less likely. I would imagine that in another year or so you'll look close to normal again as the skin has a great capacity for coming back.
August 10, 2012
So sorry you had this experience. As someone looking in from the outside, it's difficult to offer any advice, but I would say a combination of things have gone wrong here. I used Retin-A for years with no adverse effects except redness at first. But I was in my forties when I used it. I stayed out of the sun altogether. I used it for wrinkles only and I used it every night. Toner is harsh, mostly alcohol, so I never use it. The doctors where I work have done the largest cohort study ever done on vitamin D and don't believe in sunscreen. Keep a light tan, don't burn - be natural. My daughter had a few capillaries showing and we got those layered off. Just do it. You'll feel better. Get a milder face soap - one that balances and compliments the natural pH of the skin. Stop with the toner. Get a mild whipped vitamin E for your face. You can wear it day or night. Stop with the sunscreen. Wear a hat and glasses in the sun. Get a good skin vitamin and take it every day. Don't drink alcohol. Drink lots of water. Get plenty of fresh air. Get good rest. Let yourself heal. Be kind to yourself. You sound very
regimented and a bit OCD - I don't mean that in a bad way. Just let yourself be a little lighter and freer. Thank you for warning us about your experience. I hope ypu will feel better soon! :-)
December 23, 2012
Hi Becki2, What type of laser was used for the broken capillaries, how many treatments were needed, how did her skin react to the laser treatments, cost and name of dr? Many thx.
October 14, 2015
You said it. This sounds like typical non-science.
August 10, 2012

@Becki2- I'm curious about the study on Vitamin D and not using sunscreen. I use it everyday, but have wondered if it truly is necessary. Could you provide me with a link to the study that your doctors info? Also, how do you think this fits with people with fair skin? I don't tan, I burn, so I'm afraid of what would happen over time if I did not use SPF.

August 15, 2012

Don't ever use Retin-A! You’re fooling yourself if you think it’s safe or you’re unaffected. I used very little on my face for about three (3) months and I have never been as sick as I am right now. All the symptoms you read about for vitamin A toxicity. Right on mark! headache, dizziness, fatigue, malaise, blurry vision, mouth sores, nausea or vomiting and bone pain/ joint pain and anorexia. I run 10 miles a week and I’m 35 years old. Joint pain should not be an issue.
I am such a happy and forgiving person, but after discontinuing use, I’ve been so depressed. As if I can’t go on anymore. I am starting to feel better. I am on week four (4) of discontinued use and I can finally function again. Thank GOD!!!!! Bottom line, it’s bad for you and some people see the symptoms more so than others. I am all organic and maybe my healthy lifestyle caused me more damage (the chemical had nothing to hold on to?) Regardless, you might not think its causing damage to YOU, but it is. beware of liver and kidney damage and withdrawal symptoms.
To think I was so vein. I appreciate good health and I pray that my body repairs itself. I plan to spread the word to help others rid their bodies of cancer causing chem. and damage.